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Gut Reactions: Rams: 29 Packers: 27

  • Why take the ball out of the endzone?
  • That was an outstanding performance by the defense. 
  • It's incredible how McCarthy refuses to ride Aaron Jones
  • The execution on that draw play for a TD was incredible. 
  • Nice to see Tonyan get some playing time. 
  • Jaire Alexander is the freaking man. 
  • That was a hell of a sack by Fackrell
  • Kenny Clark dominated that game. 
  • I can't believe they came out of a timeout with the plan being "Lane Taylor, you take care of Aaron Donald by yourself" He's the ONE guy who can completely wreck your offense. 
  • No, but seriously, how does Ty Montgomery not have two hands on the ball if he's going to bring it out?
  • It really is mystyfying how cold this team goes on offense for long, long stretches. 
  • There is not a cornerback in the league that can check Davante Adams off the line of scrimmage. 
  • An actual sentinent human thought running Aaron Jones out of the endzone into the teeth of the Rams defense was a good idea. 
  • I remember one (incomplete) slant to Jimmy Graham, but outside of that, what should be a staple of the Packers offense, especially on a day where corners were playing well off, was completely MIA. 
  • JK Scott doesn't look worth a 7th round pick, let alone a 5th rounder. 
  • Thinking you have one last shot only to watch your team fart it away is pretty much the defining image of McCarthy's tenure since 2011; 
  • I need so many drinks. 
  • Go Pack. 
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jeremyjjbrown's picture

When Ty fumbled, I think I could hear Trevor Davis screaming Thank You from my living room.

The TKstinator's picture

Trevor Davis was in your living room?

jeremyjjbrown's picture

No, that's the joke.

Skip greenBayless's picture

You seriously thought he was serious? Serious?

ollie418's picture

Gut reactions:

McCarthy out coached again.
Roger's wastes another precious time out. So does MM.
Terrible call on safety.
Montgomery goat of game. Just a stupid rookie play.

The TKstinator's picture

Call
Or
Execution/result?

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Both. If the handoff was to Williams only the execution.

ollie418's picture

Both

Oppy's picture

Really don't get the "MM out-coached" stuff after this game.

The Packers came into this game against a vastly superior Rams team who they weren't supposed to be able to contain or keep up with.

It went down to the wire and a mental error by Ty Montgomery sealed the Packers' fate.

The only coaching decision I saw today that seemed like a blatant miscalculation was having Aaron Jones on the field when trying to get out of the endzone. I immediately wondered why Jamaal Williams wasn't out there for that rep. Although Williams did get stopped for a loss earlier in the game, his history shows that he almost never runs for negative yardage. As good as Aaron Jones is, he's not a short yardage back.

Graham Crackah's picture

And then not having Jones in for 3-4 other series with better field position. I think we blame MM because it seems to be pretty blatant stubbornness.

Oppy's picture

Aaron Jones was on the field for 62% of all offensive snaps (32 snaps out of 52).

Does that make McCarthy 38% stubborn?

mrj007's picture

I wish you were coaching.... Packers could easily bw 5-2, and could have won today if not for the ryn out endzone, stupid Montgomery, and those pass plays called on 3rd and 2.

fastmoving's picture

I always knew KNEELING is good and the players should it do way more....!!!

and by the way .......mrj007...........I sure you never mad a mistake at all the sports you did not play. and your brain is probably ever sharper then your athletic skills........

man.......buy you a wig!!

mnklitzke's picture

Out coached as not playing your best players. Jones needs 20 carries a game. Why was Breeland a healthy scratch??

Justin Morrow's picture

I was pissed when hearing Breeland was a healthy scratch.

Jordan's picture

A vastly superior Rams team? Says who? I tried explaining to people all week that the Rams weren't much better than the Vikings.

Once again, Aaron Rodgers got outplayed. Not by much, but he was still outplayed by the opposing QB. must be the knee.

fthisJack's picture

it didn't matter who was in the backfield on the safety. logic tells you the other team is going to play the run so why do you hand the ball off 7 yards deep in the endzone when you are on the goal line. a quick hitter to get some breathing room is a better play or a pass. that was a totally stupid call.

Nick Perry's picture

Just a thought but WHY doesn't the ST Coach Zook AND McCarthy actually do some coaching DURING the game and make sure they understand....DON'T TAKE THE BALL OUT ON THE KO!!!!!!!

Now I understand it was a HORRIBLE play by Montgomery, boneheaded to the 10th degree. BUT when you have a chance down by two with Aaron Rodgers as your QB with 2 minutes MAKE SURE!! Take the 15 rat ass seconds it would take to tell them...TAKE a KNEE!!

splitpea1's picture

But should he really have to be TOLD? He's not a rookie. He graduated from Stanford. I mean, do you have to be told not to touch the burner on the stove when it's on? Come on!

Just release the guy. We don't need him. At least it would send a message to the other players that extreme stupidity won't be tolerated.

jhalwas611.com's picture

Couldn't agree more. If Montgomery was told to not bring the ball out he should be cut. An example must be set . That's basic coaching to remind the players of the situation. Save the time, the possession and field position.

Revel8's picture

Montgomery had the worst game of his career. He not only took the ball out of the end zone when you never do it in that situation, he missed multiple key blocks on offense.

Rodgers had to call a time out because Linsley wasn't snapping him the ball when he was calling for it. It was not a planned play to call a time out there, like the announcers were acting. This was actually a well-coached game by McCarthy and Pettine. This team can hang with anyone in the NFL.

Rak47's picture

That call in the endzone was one of the worst damn calls I've ever seen. Did McCarthy really think it was a good idea to try and power run up the gut against Suh and Donald with 10 Rams in the box? WTH? Seriously? And why on God's green earth was Monty bringing the ball out on that kick return? WTH? Why didn't Zook or McCarthy tell him to take a knee and let AR do his thing? And the worst point regarding Monty's fumble is he didn't get gang tackled and stripped, one freaking guy stood him up and stripped him clean. Are you kidding me? He is the very definition of looks like Tarzan plays like Jane! I can't recall exact instances but this doesn't seem like his first costly fumble for the Packers. For a Stanford guy that TT seem to love so much he sure made a boneheaded play.

egbertsouse's picture

Ty Montgomery is an absolute waste of a roster spot. He brings nothing to the table; can’t run, can’t catch, crap returner, and, for a Stanford guy, is a complete meathead.

KenEllis's picture

Ty, who was drafted as a wide receiver and now is the third string running back, is the last remaining member of Ted Thompson's 2015 draft class on the Packers' roster.

Wonder if he'll last the season?

4thand10's picture

The sad and crappy part about that is he was really starting to turn into a good slot WR before his first injury. Then he recovered from that. After he recovered they moved him to RB out of needn’t the time...and the experiment just hasn’t ended. That Ty RB experiment needed to be over a long time ago..

Plenty of others who could return kick offs ...MVS comes to mind. Getting some value out of Cobb returning also comes to mind.

But either way, that was such a horrible play....I would cut him just to send a message. We had a chance and he is responsible for blowing it. Zook needs to have discussions with his players on what to do in crucial moments.

Chuck Farley's picture

Word is he had a pee contest with the coaches prior and WAS instructed to take a knee and dis regarded it.

The TKstinator's picture

Moral victory.
23 is a good player.
So are 97, 50, 69, 33, 12, 17, 20, and 37.

(Confession time: I don’t believe in moral victories either. I just put that in there to provoke/stir the pot.)

(PS: does “stir the pot” have a different connotation in Colorado?)

Oppy's picture

Yeah he is.

ollie418's picture

No such thing as a moral victory.

fastmoving's picture

you have no idea. sure there are moral victories. that one in new england a couple of years ago turned a whole season around. the team feels much better after the moral W and had a ship on his shoulder to get a couple of real wins. they know now they can play with the big ones. changes a lot.
sometimes moral wins are ever bigger than real wins......

NashvilleCheesehead's picture

There only are victories. Moral victories are meaningless.

The TKstinator's picture

I think you’re confusing that with “immoral” victories. Winning by cheating isn’t really winning.

Point Packer's picture

Moral victories are for losers.

The TKstinator's picture

So, immoral victories are for winners?

NashvilleCheesehead's picture

A playoff caliber team with a .500 coach. Ugh. Time for a drink, indeed....

ollie418's picture

MM has to go!

fastmoving's picture

you have no idea. and if he has to go, not because of this game. but the world must be a easy place for simple guys. theses days more than ever.....
I guess you never had a moral victory.......but plenty of real ones!!!!

what about AR? the L gos on him to way bigger part.

Denise Chanterelle's picture

Yes Aaron, Jimmy G missing in action again. How many seasons now has it been w/o a solid TE! I’ve lost count and this was a poorly coached game. We’re running out of time on this season. I guess we have to pull for NO tonite even if that hurts our 1st round seed from them next year. Ugh.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Maybe the TE du jour is not actually the problem with the TE in the Packers offense.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

It seems like we are forcing the ball to Graham, and for the most part, even that doesn't help sufficiently.

mrj007's picture

He is rarely open

holmesmd's picture

Not sure what you are talking about? GB took arguably the best team in the league down to the wire. One poopy pants play from #88 probably prevented them from winning. Were you betting against #12 getting into FG range? I certainly wasn’t.....nor were 95% of the people watching the game. I get the pile on and all the silly jibber jabber but by all stats, metrics, and the eye test....we played these guys to the wire. Whoever thinks we should have won the MN game, they certainly can’t think any differently about this game. It sucks but we have a talented team who can play with anyone....and the best QB alive. Keep your powder dry and gain perspective. On to NE!

The TKstinator's picture

I especially like that second last sentence, but you left out “vent your spleen at full volume and show everybody your amazing combination of superior knowledge of football strategy and unbridled passion!”

TXCHEESE's picture

How can you say McCarthy was out coached. Team was ready to play. Zook needs his ass canned (as well as Montgomery needs his ass cut) for not making sure under no circumstances do you bring the football out if it flies to the end zone. That would have given the offense one additional play prior to the two minute warning. We’ll see if Gute has enough balls to send Montgomery packing. He’s not someone that has made any significant positive impact. I used to be a huge supporter of him, but too many injuries, and always suspect ball protection.

CAG123's picture

He wasted the efforts of the defense in the first half and gave them momentum with that stupid safety run up the middle. The offense took a nap for a quarter and a half they could have easily had them down 13-0 or even 17 if MM was playing to win instead of not to lose.

Pierre's picture

Absolutely right. While the Packers defense forced the Rams into 4 punts in the first half, after GB got 10 points, Rodgers and the offense ONLY GOT 28 yards on 4 possessions!!! GB defense was playing their hearts out the first half and Rodgers could not even move the chains to get first downs during that time they were “asleep” on offense. That’s when they should have kept scoring but as always Rodgers is just aggressive downfield a lot of 2nd and 3rd quarters. They could of smashed this Ram team if their offense just played a complete game on the attack instead of the same pattern of plays for those 4 worthless offensive series. Kudos to the Packers Defense!!!

Tundraboy's picture

Exactly. Killer instinct,forget about it. I don't think he is passionate enough about winning, every dam game you can. You think he would have at least learned his lesson by now.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Those where problems too. But, McCarthy was outcoached. Phillips made adjustments and McCarthy reverted to the same crap that has been problematic since 2015.

ollie418's picture

Good points but MM still got out coached.

Spud Rapids's picture

Hey idiot stop repeating yourself that he got outcoached and provide some context...

JimR_in_SoCal's picture

He got out coached...in Los Angeles.

beercheese's picture

It's not as though McCarthy is a bad coach, but he's just so predictable. The play call that ended in a safety, I don't think that was a bad call, but why was Jones in there instead of Williams. If McCarthy were to give an honest answer, I think it the answer would be.... "it was his turn". That's just a small example. He appears to be too stubborn to change his ways.

BamaPackFan's picture

Yeah... surely Williams would have stiff armed Aaron Donald and run right over Suh. Just NOT the place you want to try and run into in that situation.

CAG123's picture

It took me a while to get here but even if the Packers had won I’m just done with MM at this point. You have the best team in the NFL down 10-0 you’re supposed to do everything possible to keep your foot on their necks and not give them momentum MM failed to do either from the second to third quarters and the safety before the half was just inexcusable. It’s almost like he did it on purpose they could have had them down 13-0 maybe even 17 and that puts a lot more pressure on the on the Rams instead an inspired effort by the defense went to waste. I’m done with MM.

ollie418's picture

Exactly!

holmesmd's picture

MM doesn’t block, make reads, catch the ball, or tackle. Other than getting away from Jones toting the rock too early, I saw nothing wrong with most of the calls. If you can’t get a yard to get out of your own end zone, that’s not MM’s fault IMO. #12 could have checked out of it anyway and fired something over the top. He didn’t, they didn’t, and a baffling play cost them the game. It’s football. It happens.

The TKstinator's picture

Your logical, sensible comments have no place here, sir. Grab a torch and pitchfork like the rest of us, or kindly take your leave.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

4thand1's picture

There are no moral victories. Monty owes me a new TV.

The TKstinator's picture

I think Best Buy just scored one.

Since '61's picture

These are the type of losses that get players chucked and coaches fired. Monty should be chucked just like Bostic was. Zook should be fired and if this season continues to go South MM needs to go as well.

After the Bostic debacle in the 2014 NFCCG how can we allow another player to make a similar stupid play. Why is there any consideration given to running the ball out of the end zone when we have Aaron Rodgers one of the best 4th quarter winning drive QBs of all time. I'm not saying that we would have scored but you need to give Rodgers a chance at least.

The Packers had played a near perfect game up to that point. It was their best game of the year that we all had been hoping for.

Why does this keep happening with our players making stupid plays, especially at critical times late in the game? No excuses acceptable. If the coaches did not tell Monty to stay in the end zone they should be fired. If Monty made the decision oh his own, chuck him, now, don't even bring him back to Green Bay.

To lose this way is just too frustrating to imagine or understand. 2014 NFCCG all over again. We don't give the ball to Aaron Jones enough but we allow Monty to take the ball out of the end zone when all we need is a FG to win. This is beyond stupid. This is unacceptable and irresponsible. A High School team would not make the mistake that Monty made.

Total waste of a great team effort. Thanks, Since '61

flackcatcher's picture

What a gut shot '61. Monty why, WHY?. He is too smart a player to pull this crap. Looking on the bright side, this team can play a complete game, the veterans are upping their level of game play, the rookies are indeed very good and despite the carping from us fans, the coaches can still coach at a high level. We found that out today, still lets remember more often than not that football games are won with luck, chance, and boneheaded decisions going your way. Today, was the Rams day, but as we all know these things usually even out, even in a short season the games like football plays. Now if you will all excuse me, I'm going to hide under my blankets now............:)

The TKstinator's picture

Maybe 88 was planning to take it to the haus and spare 12 the effort?

(And the ‘haus’ is in Germany.)

splitpea1's picture

Were you watching the same game as the rest of us?

You make football sound like some kind of lottery game. I guess the over 700 games the Packers have won over their history is mostly due to luck.

The TKstinator's picture

Who are you talking to?

Cwilly's picture

Worst coached football team. And mccarthys tenure won’t be remembered super bowl but how to lose every game that mattered by blunders. Either it’s personnel or it’s just coaching once again we loss with arod not getting the ball. Sounds so familiar!

Pierre's picture

You’re right. A lot of suspect calls and lack of team discipline. MM says Monty is suppose to take a knee but then also says that “he’s trying to make a play”? Yeah, just like Bostick tried to make a play!! The point is, do your job as the coach says to or else face the consequences. There is just no excuse for not taking a knee in that situation! It’s beyond belief!

jhlisic's picture

The offense is infuriating. They couldn't capitalize on dominant defensive play. Reminded me of the Vikings game where GB should've had a bigger lead and snuffed out any possibility of a comeback by the opposition.
The most frustrating part is that the offense has the benefit of experience and familiarity.
Great QB, explosive RBs, great route running veteran WRs mixed with improving rookie receivers, and also one of the best offensive lines in the league. They should be putting up 30 points a game easily.
The defense has a new coordinator and a bunch of rookies as defensive backs, and they are playing their ass off.

Bearmeat's picture

Another choke job for the Packers in an important game. Sigh. It's happened so regularly since 2014, you just come to expect it.

The TKstinator's picture

Real bad play at the end, but the overall performance was much better than I was anticipating.

Pierre's picture

Great defensive effort however.

Oppy's picture

People like to bag on Haha Clinton-Dix, but really, the issue isn't HaHa. It's the other safety position that needs plugging. Whitehead did not have a good day today outside of special teams play.

Speaking of STs play, what gives with JK Scott today? I know Rams' punt coverage units are known for getting blocks, I wonder if JK was having to short-kick the ball to get it off before defenders got a hand on it.

HankScorpio's picture

Safety is the hardest position in football. Basically, doing the job right is in direct conflict with all the new player safety rules these days. It has obviously affected the way Safeties play across the league. It has shown with both HHCD and Brice, for sure. The Vikings miracle playoff win was because the Safety coming in for the big hit pulled out over fear of a flag.

I would not be surprised to see the position become like FBs, where the position is gradually de-emphasized until some teams carry none on the roster. It's nothing but CBs in the DB room. And the teams that do still carry the position on the roster will use those guys sparingly.

holmesmd's picture

You don’t mean Sandeo spearing Adams in the head I hope?! That was about as silly of a blown call as I’ve seen all friggin year. This year, the team is about 4 crappy calls away from being 6-2...as genius Rodgers said a week before the bye. Chill out. League parity is the product and the goal. Every team can win any game. It’s by design. As a fan you should celebrate when your team goes down to the wire with the most complete team in football( arguably). If GB wins 2 out of the next 3, they’ll remain wildcard contenders. Home field advantage is out of reach, the Division is still there, let’s see what happens. Crapping your pamper after every loss accomplishes what exactly?

The TKstinator's picture

Um, ...sells more pampers?

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I thought Whitehead did a good job on Gurley in the first half. Did Brice even play?

Oppy's picture

Whitehead was spying Gurley (and lost him) on one of gurley’s Huge chunks of yardage out of the backfield on a pass. Whitehead was picked on in coverage as well. Number 35 was all over the field in the unflattering way last night.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Now TTs failure in the 2015 draft is complete.

Rak47's picture

Just read an article on how Monty threw a tantrum on the sideline on the previous serious before the kickoff fumble, and how he was mad and disregarded the coaches instructions to take a knee. WoW! Article also say's Rodgers was P!#* off and screamed at Monty afterward "take an effing knee". Holy cow can we say outta here by the trade deadline?www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000980254/article/rodgers-doesnt-get-chanc...

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I don't know the author and (not surprisingly to me anyway) no attribution or corroboration by a WI beat writer, but this is a damning article.

Rak47's picture

It was written by Michael Silver of NFL Network. Although I understand you may not know him personally.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Wow, I hope that's not true. But, if it is he should be immediately released.

Coldworld's picture

If true, and at this point the ‘if’ is real, I quite agree. That would be completely unacceptable and we should not tolerate it.

splitpea1's picture

Does anybody feel like putting a bag over their head?

What a wonderful effort by the defense wasted by one player on special teams. Just release him. Whatever he brings to the table can be easily replaced by the other backs and receivers. I don't want to see any more boneheads on this team.

Fire Zook. What's the point of having a special teams coach if they're going to do stuff like this? Our punter was terrible, their punter completed a pass, and then the Montgomery mistake; our special teams are absolutely cursed--or maybe they have no awareness when they get out on the field.

This whole game was so reminiscent of the Seattle championship game--almost a great victory but unable to close due to unforgivable stupidity.

holmesmd's picture

What game did you watch? Our ST play was very very good. They screwed up 2 plays: King got beat on a pansy fake pass, and Monty shit his brain off and booted a KO. Other than that, ST’s was solid....aside from Scott forgetting how to punt of course. If you can’t punt in LA, you can’t punt anywhere. The coverage units were very good and Josh Jones had a big ST contribution. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water folks.;)

Mojo's picture

Let's see, ST's were good except for a fumble at the most critical time by someone who should have never brought the ball out in the first place, a punter who pooped the bed all game long, giving up an easy pass on a short distance throw fake punt by LA and no punt or kick return threat by GB returners.

I'm confused at what constitutes crappy ST play.

Oppy's picture

Giving up an easy short pass on a fake punt pass?

I think people are being ridiculous on this one. Perhaps not listening to aikman’s chatter would be a start.

It sucks that they got the first down, but plays like that one can easily become TDS. Kings primary job is to run down field and get into position to block for the return man. The fact he sensed that his man peeled off and recovered to stick the receiver before he broke downfield further showed pretty good awareness and potentially prevented a TD all things considered

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I have to watch the play again, I guess.

Coldworld's picture

ST play was good. Coverage was great. King was fooled by a trick play well executed but aware enough to recover to take the catcher down. Monty’s play was individual failure.

The only real disappointment other than Monty was in the punting. A bad day by Scott. From a coaching perspective Zook did well by the looks of it.

Scott is a rookie. He will need to mature, and I believe he will.

Mojo's picture

Arg. I'd love to coach against Oppy. He has no problem giving large cushions and conceding easy tosses on 4th and 3 plays. I'd probably end-up with 70 points with his way of thinking.

Kings FIRST responsibility is to make sure the eligible receiver he's guarding doesn't catch a pass for a first down. He needs to play tighter and put doubt into the punters mind about even trying the play. Else, why not just settle in 25 to 30 yards downfield where you can pick off the gunner easier? Why not have a lineman outside who can block better rather than a CB? He should be guarding (somewhat closely), his man until he sees the punter committing to the punt. Then the SECOND thing you do is try to get into a position to block. I don't need Aikman to tell me this.

Oppy's picture

That was Sam Shields out there.

There's no way Kevin King- or nearly anyone one else on the Packers squad- can hang with Sam Shields (who shows full sprint off the LOS) without flipping your hips and getting out of a backpedal.

If you don't give a true low 4.3 runner a cushion, you're left in the dirt.
Stick with aikman.

Mojo's picture

No one can hang with Sam Shields? - you've got to be kidding. It's what Kevin King does for a living. Playing against fast guys, slow guys, tall guys, kids who climb on rocks it's what he's been trained to stop. He's a cornerback not a schlep. He's gone against some of the best receivers in the league already much less the other teams CB.

King - a fast (4.4 speed) tall CB with great flexibility. One of the best athletes at his position coming out (maybe the best). You're saying he can't keep up with another CB? Absolutely ridiculous. If Shields is such a threat then why isn't playing every down as a receiver? According to your logic he'd be averaging ten TD's a game since he's so unstoppable.

On a fourth and three you can't give a ten yard plus cushion on anybody. Easy pitch and catch. I guarantee if Hekker sees King even close to Shield he doesn't even attempt the pass. Even if he does, King is then in position to defend it. And a go route by Shields with the punter throwing, I'll take my chances.

Another thing I'll guarantee, the coaching staff reminding King the next time a gunner is only three yards from a first, don't give a ten yard cushion, turn around and head downfield. It was a mistake on Kings part and a bad play by the ST's.

Oppy's picture

Shields is a CB because he doesn't have NFL level WR hands. He was a WR in college.

And, yes, CB's often give large cushions to WR's with true 4.3 speed. For the record, while you're talking about a 10 yard cushion.. in reality, King was roughly 5 yards off of Shields at the snap of the ball.

But you seem to keep on ignoring the fact this wasn't a normal down. It was a clear punting situation- 4th down from the Rams' 43 yard line. When defending a WR, you can trail the WR and still do your job. When you're blocking a gunner, once he's even a half step ahead of you, you've failed to do your job. You can no longer block that player.

The Rams ran a fake punt and it worked. It wasn't because of an all-out failure by the defender. It's because the play itself was ran in a circumstance where it is unlikely to be expected, and it took advantage of the way a defender has to play a gunner with top flight speed.

It is what it is. Will the coaching staff review that play? Sure they will. I don't think they're going to be too hard on King, however. They will probably decide that they should play less pressure vs. the Rams when they punt and shields is on the field- then they'd have two defenders over the gunner instead of just one, and they could afford to have one defender jam the gunner while the other runs with him. I don't think the coaches are going to have the hard-on for crucifying King that you do on that play. Over a 12 year span (2000-2012), there was merely a total of 213 fake punts/FGs in the NFL. Note, that's both fake punts and fake FGs. Simply put, it is not generally expected, and even less so when the punt is from short of mid-field. The Rams got one on the Packers. Oh, and I'm a horrible coach that you'd whoop up on in some fantasy world you've created where we're NFL coaches. Okay, whatever. On to the next one.

Mojo's picture

You're right, the Rams rarely attempt fake punts. Who would even suspect? This from NFL.com:

" Over the years, the Rams have been known to pull a little trickeration with their punter, Johnny Hekker. He's thrown at least one pass on a fake punt or field goal during every single season of his career, and now 2018 is no different. This particularly gambit, however, was unsuccessful, thanks to heads up coverage from rookie Vikings corner Mike Hughes."

"Here's an incredible string of Hekker statistics: since his debut back in 2012, he has now thrown 16 passes. The next closest punter -- Sam Koch of the Ravens -- has thrown just three. He has nine completions, and the next closest punter -- again, Koch -- has three. He has 137 passing yards and the next closest punters -- Ryan Quigley and Pat O'Donnell -- have just 38 apiece. "

As far as a cushion, what you need to take into consideration, and fail to do, is the distance. If the offense only needs 3 yards against a team that has has a penchant for fake punts, then hell yeah, I'm going to tell my starting caliber CB to play him tight. If it's ten yards, of course he can back-up.

I'd much rather risk a gunner getting past me than an easy toss for a first. BTW gunners often get by anyway, even with deep cushions and it's not like there's never anyone else to pick-him up. Plus, the 43 is not that outrageous a position on the field to eschew a punt.

I never said the coaches were going to "crucify" King either. I hate when people resort to exaggerations to try to bolster their argument. I would expect they would remind him on short-distances against a team with a penchant for fakes to play his man tighter. If not, then as an opponent in those situations I'd go with the fake EVERY time and be successful nearly EVERY time.

Lphill's picture

roster moves tomorrow, cut Montgomery and Whitehead move Tramon Williams to safety.

Coldworld's picture

Whitehead has done well in a more limited role. He had some decent plays yesterday, but he was asked to do too much perhaps. Agree on Williams moving to safety.

As for Monty, it could be he has sealed his fate if the stories are true. He has not justified his snaps on offense overall this season in my view anyway.

HankScorpio's picture

My gut reaction is that if Aaron Rodgers plays like the best player in football for 60 minutes, that game is nearly iced by halftime and the defense doesn't wear down late. He was brilliant in the final 20 minutes. Again. But he was so-so in the first 40. Again. That's a pattern that he needs to correct.

I'm sure plenty of fingers will be pointed elsewhere. And with good reason. There is ample blame to go around for this loss. But none of the others are paid what Rodgers is paid. So none of the others carry the same expectation, at least for me.

jhlisic's picture

Agree 100%. His salary is a reflection of previous performance, relative comparison to his peers, and future expectations. This season he hasn't looked anywhere close to being the best QB in the league.
The skill set is still there, but his decision making seems way off.

HankScorpio's picture

In addition to his decision-making, he's making poor throws at a greater rate than his history and contract suggest he should.

I'm no QB guru but he sure seems to pay little attention to his footwork on way too many throws. Sometimes it is fire-drill stuff that only he can do. You're not going to see a beautiful throw mechanic on those plays. But not always. And the results have reflected that, IMO.

Cubbygold's picture

Yeah it's frustrating. Games like Chicago, you know you're watching greatness. Then you see him take a rediculous number of sacks in Detroit and LA, when he knows pressure is coming, and he calls timeouts in non-pressure situations, and I don't know what to think. Its almost as if he believes those things don't matter to the outcome of the game

holmesmd's picture

NFL organizations expect the same competence per their position for all players on the roster. Fans harp on what players make, not teams. If you’re a rookie CB on your 1st deal, they expect you to play at the highest level. QB is a unique position and usually the face of the franchise. Anyone who watched the game today and didn’t see our incredible secondary play for much of the game, doesn’t understand the game. For as cocky and confident as JA is, the guy looked like Revis or Deion Sanders in their prime. He was literally all over the field...in year #1! Jackson must be hurt. I didn’t see him much. KK is another star developing before our eyes. There are pieces in place.

The TKstinator's picture

Gotta be confident to play CB in the NFL!!

jhlisic's picture

I agree with what you're saying, particularly about these kids in the secondary. They look like the real deal, and I think the arrow for the defense is pointing up.
My point was that Rodgers has a large body of work which us fans are basing our critique from. At the moment, he looks out of it. He doesn't seem to have any urgency and he's sort of going through the motions.
This team has enough talent to challenge most teams, but the lack of execution, particularly on an offense which has the benefit of experience and familiarity (between coaching staff, players and scheme) is what is most puzzling. They should be scoring 30 a game easily.

Pierre's picture

Right on. Middle of the game malaise by Rodgers. He does not play with a sense of urgency each series. Hence we blow nobody out and he is always putting the team in a position of needing a comeback in the fourth quarter. You see it almost every game! With the way the Packer defense was playing GB should have been up 24-0 at the half if Rodgers plays with an urgency to score TDs in the second quarter.

sonomaca's picture

Don’t returners get specific instructions about what to do? Perhaps he was told to run it out if it’s less than x yards deep.

Since '61's picture

If that was what he was told then we need to fire the coach who told Monty that. You have Aaron Rodgers. You take the ball at the 25 yard line with no time wasted and put the ball in Aaron's hands. End of story.

Running out takes time off the clock that Rodgers can use. Next it is unlikely that you return the ball past the 25 unless you are Gale Sayers. Third, you can end up with an unnecessary holding or blocking in the back penalty costing 10 yards of field position and finally and fatally you can end up fumbling the chance for Aaron away and wasting a great team effort.
Therefore as I posted earlier, if a coach told him he could take the ball out of the end zone that coach should fired. In fact Zook should be fired for not screaming very loudly that Monty is not to take the ball out of the end zone before he even went on the field. No excuse. This is just stupid, stupid football. Bad teams make plays like Monty made. Bad coaches allow it to happen. Thanks, Since '61

Cubbygold's picture

100% correct.

If monty was told to take a knee and didn't, he should be cut.

If zook failed to directly tell monty to take a knee, he should be cut

The TKstinator's picture

I have it on good authority that he was told to run it out of the endzone and run it all the way to the other end zone.

Shhhhh! Don’t tell nobody but I’m applying for GB’s vacated ST coaching position tomorrow.

ollie418's picture

Why waste time outs? They are gold in the second half.

Bearmeat's picture

I knew our goose was cooked when it was 3rd and 5 and Rodgers took that dumbass time out. Monty was the icing on the cake.

ollie418's picture

Exactly!

ShanghaiKid's picture

@Bearmeat couldn’t help but wonder what the hell Roders was thinking. They didn’t even flinch with 7 seconds on the clock. No reason not to snap it.

Mojo's picture

I get the anger at the wasted TO's. We do it every game seemingly every half of every game. I bitch about it all the time, but apparently no one in GB is listening to me. Can't stand it because it almost always comes because ARod insists on winding the play-clock to near zero. I guess it's to read the D, but then why do they seem to have much more success when they snap early. Plus, the D knows when to tee-off putting our line at a disadvantage.

But FWIW one more TO today would just have meant one more kneel-down for LA at the end.

Tundraboy's picture

"Plus, the D knows when to tee-off putting our line at a disadvantage."

Yessssss. And we wonder why we so often are going three-and-out on 3rd and 2 ,long developing pass plays.

4thand1's picture

It's gut wrenching to watch a Packers game and waiting for a major F-up to lose it. We have suffered enough.

Bearmeat's picture

Agreed.

The TKstinator's picture

I thought I was done suffering in the 70’s and 80’s.

Tundraboy's picture

Hurts more now. At least then we often stunk. No excuse for this now.

4thand1's picture

Does Aaron Jones get an award for best yards per carry average at the end of the season?

ScaryGary's picture

mikeisaverageatbest

Altered Idol's picture

Feel really sorry for Jaire today, he played exceptionally. Martinez and Clark were also excellent and didnt deserve to lose. Adams and Aaron Jones were great, MVS made a big play. There are promising signs...

...and its all undone by an inexplicable play. Take the damn knee, we needed a FG to win, thats. Is this a sign of poor coaching or just a bad play? Not sure.

Defeat to the Patriots and things become very tricky. We played well today and once again found a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Changes are required in my opinion. The safety position isnt good enough all around and some of the playcalls were mystifying. We need a more consistent pass rush too. There are spots to build around but more quality needed.

Cubbygold's picture

Yeah the uncertainty makes gutes job more difficult. Go get a rental pass rusher, and potentially waste draft ammo on a team that isnt putting complete games together? Trade HaHa and grab more draft capital for year 2 of the rebuild? Good luck gute

holmesmd's picture

There was pocket pressure for much of the game. They ended up with 3-4 sacks as I recall. What more would you like, a sack on every snap?! They also have to defend arguably the most talented back in the league, perhaps except Barkley. It’s not Madden and it damn sure ain’t on the defense for this one.

Cubbygold's picture

My comment wasn't blaming the defense for anything, and they definitely got good pressure today. Rumors pregame were that HaHa is on the trading block and GB is actively looking for pass rush help. At 3-3-1, gute has tough decisions to make

ollie418's picture

Just a poorly coached team. Period!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Well, at least we know not to draft anymore Stanford players.

The TKstinator's picture

Martinez?

Oppy's picture

Uh... what?

Oppy's picture

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Packerjeff's picture

Agree 100% with 61
We were at the game
On the safety packers had a 1 wide receiver lined up on the left
There was no saftey over the top and the CB was lined up 10 yards off him
Why not throw a quick slant?
Heart breaking loss
GO PACK GO

Packerjeff's picture

Agree 100% with 61
We were at the game
On the safety packers had a 1 wide receiver lined up on the left
There was no saftey over the top and the CB was lined up 10 yards off him
Why not throw a quick slant?
Heart breaking loss
GO PACK GO

Disappointed Cheesehead's picture

Overall, the team played quite well, offense and defense. Consistency was an obvious issue for the offense. Defense was able to pressure Goff and Alexander looked like the second coming of Jesus.

Unfortunately, fixable issues continued to haunt us. Doesn't it feel like we waste one timeout a game hoping Rodgers will draw someone offsides? It almost seems as if they don't have a play call and they plan on using the timeout no matter what.

TY MONTGOMERY, WHY? I could care less if Zook did or didn't advise him to take a knee. How on Eart
h can you justify taking that ball out of the endzone in that situation? The fumble alone makes me want to punch myself in the face but the fact that taking the ball out all but guarantees a lost 2 min warning pause. What a waste.

Changes MUST be made. I don't normally justify cutting a player based on one mistake but I'm making an exception. Players need to be held accountable for making such awful, game altering plays. He's a third string running back who isn't a good enough receiver/blocker to keep. Leave him in Cali and activate Kumerow.

We can't keep handing games away. I didn't expect a W this week. I am still pleased with the way the team played but any more mental mistakes or questionable play calls and this season is over.

GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

This team will NEVER win another SB with MM period.

Lphill's picture

Clay Mathews played good , and 95 was a surprise he seemed to hold up good against the run , Packers needed a turnover maybe a pick 6 just didn't happen , Monty should have known better , cut him and replace him with Kumerow , I think MM is gone after this season regardless , we got a new D coach next it's Head coach it's not good to replace both in the same season.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

McCarthy: ‘We’ve got work to do’

He says the same thing for the past 13 years!!

4thand1's picture

He should be looking for work elsewhere.

Bill Atkinson's picture

Why does Zorn still have a job?

4thand1's picture

Zorn? He used to QB the seaschickens decades ago.

19TitleTown19's picture

Zorn was in GB too.

splitpea1's picture

Maybe we should hire this Zorn to be our special teams coordinator. He would be a big improvement over what we've got.

The TKstinator's picture

@Bill: Because of a shortage of sweet lefty QB’s.

jhalwas611.com's picture

Even the University of Illinois got rid of him!

EdsLaces's picture

If our defense played like this against the Lions and the Skins ....

Cubbygold's picture

Hopefully Breeland is close to full health. If this team can make good use of TW at safety, the best is yet to come from this defense in 2018.

holmesmd's picture

Our corners when healthy are the last of our issues. Every friggin throw or at least most are covered and contested. May I remind you of how that differs from the last 5 years?! I’ll say this, King, JA, and JJackson all have a chance to be all pro’s. That’s pretty encouraging if you ask me!

Cubbygold's picture

Yup thats what i said, our corners suck. Good one!

Tundraboy's picture

Yes we have NFL CBs finally. Finally! That and Jones TD run we're things I haven't seen in years.

nostradanus's picture

Young receivers - good
Aaron Jones - good
Ty Montgomery- bad
Randall Cobb - overpaid
Nick Perry- overpaid
Clay Mathews- overpaid
Offense Line - good
McCarthy slow developing plays - bad
Wasting timeouts for the past 13 years - bad
Watching another Defensive collapse- bad
Jaire Alexander- good
Clinton Dix - bad
Blake Martinez -good

The TKstinator's picture

Succinct: good

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

HHCD: okay
Monty: missed picking up Aaron Donald as well.
Tramon: okay, but has lost another half step.
Lowry: nice run D, wish he had more juice.
Clark: dominant.
Burks: I don't remember: did he play?
Brice: I don't remember: did he play?
Bell: Well, it was LAR. Could have been worse.

holmesmd's picture

Umm, if your Center who is 325lbs can’t block Donald, what is the guy that’s 225 supposed to do?!Lol. I mean he could speed bump it but that’s about it Donald is like Mack, he’s a generational talent with otherworldly size, speed, agility, and power. Then you have Suh who is essentially a bigger version of Donald. So yeah, your RB are supposed to mitigate that?!Lol. Backs tend to pick up LB’s, Safety’s, & CB’s . If You’re expecting enemies Williams to handle a breaching NT with Donald’s talent, you will have tears in your beer every single snap/week.;)

Mojo's picture

Umm, yeah I expect my RB to block a lineman if needed. No ones expecting a pancake block ... just enough to slow him down so your QB has time to react.
Other teams do it all the time even to players such as Donald.

jww061356's picture

A dumbass play call/execution by the offense in the first half(the safety) and the what the f*ck was Montgomery thinking? As soon as he started to run it out I was yelling, No, No, NOOOOO! Even if he doesn't fumble, he doesn't run it out anywhere near the 25 and runs precious time off the clock. Cut his ass and put Zook on notice behind closed doors. Cut the stupid sh*t!

jhalwas611.com's picture

You have to throw from the 1 yard line. That's basic knowledge. A quick slat to get some room.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Yeah,why wasn't our best RB blocker in the game. Jamal Williams could have stopped A.Donald!

holmesmd's picture

Uummm, no he couldn’t. Lin’s key is one of the strongest guys on the team and outweighs our biggest back by 100 lbs. He might by a few tenths of a second as a speed bump but he dang sure is stopping Donald or Suh from where they wish to go.

holmesmd's picture

Typos. Stupid iPhone. Apologies

The TKstinator's picture

Typos Mary.
Most misunderstood woman in history.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Aaron Jones got 12 carries, gained 86 yards for a 7.2 yard average in a game we were never out of. Even without the 33 yard TD run, he'd be 11 for 53 and a 4.8 yard average.

We rushed 18 times (minus scrambles) while LAR rushed 29 times. Someone or someones in GB are Just incapable of learning. 34:10 to 25:50 TOP in favor of LAR. 52 plays to versus 75. Two of nine on 3rd down.

MM teams just can't get over the hump.

The TKstinator's picture

Reggie was great with the hump.

Tundraboy's picture

A few years back wasn't McCarthy always going on about running as many plays as possible. What happened to that.?

Oppy's picture

I would have liked to see more running once the packers got up 10-0 on an offense I did not believe could be stifled long term. I thought the best opportunity to win was to keep the Rams’ offense off the field.

Looking at the Rams defensive stats, they give up 4.7 a carry (bottom 5 in the league) but are among the stingiest in the NFL in rushing yards per game allowed- mostly because teams get behind their explosive offense and are forced to play catch up via the pass.

Never would have predicted our D would be able to hold the rams down as long as they did. I felt that had the packers played a bit more clock control offense via running the ball when we had the chance iin the first half, we may have prevented one of the rams late first half scores and changed the complexion of the game. Of course, then people would have been screaming about MM taking his foot off the gas. What can you do?

Oppy's picture

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jhalwas611.com's picture

I know many want to blame Montgomery and I agree with that. But I still believe the coaching is to blame. He should have been told not to bring it out of the end zone and should be gone if he disobeyed that directive. I feel the offensive play calling was again to blame. How? Once again the offense comes out with good momentum then resorted to the tired old offense of the past 10 years. Did anyone else notice how Kendricks was in the backfield and multiple tight end sets in the first quarter then not later? Back to the old ways, predictability !

The TKstinator's picture

Please see “Holmgren, Mike: playcalling vs execution”

splitpea1's picture

I also noticed those plays where the Rams had all their receivers going in one direction and Gurley going underneath in the other--which resulted in a pretty easy completion and TD. They almost did the same thing for the 2-point conversion. Why can't we do stuff like that? The Packers really need to come up with a reliable short passing game so they can sustain drives and not only score, but keep opposing offenses off the field.

Rebecca's picture

Lotta season left. Go Pack Go!

Rebecca's picture

This game’s history. I’m encouraged. We know what we’ve got, and odds are this team will encourage and frustrate for the rest of the season. This could have been a season changing win. It wasn’t. Gut check. Accept it and move on. Bring it. Go Pack Go!

Gman1976's picture

There’s an old saying, “Good teams find a way to win. Bad teams find a way to lose.” With the talent we have, it’s hard to believe that we are a bad team, but the record speaks for itself. Can we change it around?

Doug Niemczynski's picture

What happened to the day when another player made sure the KR did not take the ball out of the endzone. There used to be a player about 5 yards or so in front of the returner to turn around and say:

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!
KNEEL KNEEL KNEEL KNEEL KNEEL!!

The TKstinator's picture

The CBA and risk of torn ACL’s recently outlawed that practice.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

There also usd to be 2 guys in the end zone. One guy on each side of the endzone, then one guy might toss the ball to the other and be the lead blocker for him.

holmesmd's picture

When the rules changed and only one guy is deep. Modern era football dictates that “guy” is now a blocker downfield. I remember what you’re describing though:/

splitpea1's picture

But there are still three players allowed in the general area where the kickoff should land--I think.

stockholder's picture

Week after week; I Keep saying MM is the a good coach. Week after week; I watch a veteran blow a game. Week after week; I've watched the kids out play the veterans. Well this week I'm going to say SABOTAGE! This team has screwed up everything they could after Nelson left. My gut reaction; There's not enough money to sign me. So I'll F**K with the fans. Monty knows better. Where was the bone crushing Hit or strip. It has shades of other veterans that left town. CMIII late hits. Cobbs drops, Crosby's misses, and A-rod holding onto the ball to long this year. The more the rookies make their Mark, get playing time, and don't screw -up. The more the vets will be shown the door and they know it. Ok people MM is the Goat. One Super Bowl win full of S**T. The players union is well in Green Bay. But I say Sabotage>.

GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

Even if we had Devin Hester in his prime in that situation you take a knee and give the back to 12. Cut TY Monday morning. Active Kumerow. See what we can for HA HA via trade. Fire MM and Zook in black Monday. With the talent we have and another offseason and draft. I think we will be very strong Next Year.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

What planet fo you come from? There is 60 Minutes on the game clock!! I don't care if you play 59 minutes perfect. You can still lose the game. Your one of those people. Well, we were competitive.

Pip pip and cheerio ol boy. Your just a fair weather fan. It doesn't matter if you win or lose. All that matters is how you play the game.

Here is your participation award.

The TKstinator's picture

I thought a fair weather fan was one who only jumps on board when a team is winning.

Cubbygold's picture

What?

The TKstinator's picture

Where?

Since '61's picture

Who's on first?

The TKstinator's picture

Third base!

Oppy's picture

I don’t feel tardy.

Okay, unrelated, but I still love that quote. I wonder how waldo is doing nowadays.

Spud Rapids's picture

All these posts are just calling out two bad plays and wanting to fire everyone. Get over your emotional tantrums and step back and Look at the game as a whole

The TKstinator's picture

And watch the sale of pampers go into the toilet? Pun intended or not?
Not on my watch, amigo! GB lost, I’ve got a belly full of beer, and I’m gonna spew my wrath now and the contents of my gut later!

GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

Not wanting to fire everyone just MM zook anf Ty. I for one have seen enough of these games and MM has no control over this team.

splitpea1's picture

We lost the whole game.

Mojo's picture

That's what I was going to say splitpea.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Most games are decided by 3 pts or less with 2 min. left to play. MM should know this and he has FAILED again! Out coached himself by not making sure his coaches are on the same page as him.

The TKstinator's picture

Which page is that? All I see is an enormous, brightly colored laminated sheet. So, letting everyone know “front” or “back” should be pretty easy!

LambeauPlain's picture

That's because he is, in reality, an overpaid Offensive Coordinator, not a real Head Coach. And by Offensive, I mean increasingly so!

LambeauPlain's picture

Last 49 games MM is 24-24-1....with a HOF QB!!!

He has to go.

Lost the time of possession because he passes on 2nd and 2, gets too many 3 and outs...wears out the D. Had more than 20 fewer plays on O which means the D has to play way more snaps than the O.

A. Jones is a star in waiting and he get just 12 touches and still averaged over 7 yards. The only time he should leave the field is if he is hurt.

The only time Montgomery should see the field is if every other RB has broken legs.

I want to know...did Zook SPECIFICALLY tell Montgomery to stay in the end zone??? If so, Montgomery should be cut. If not, Zook should be fired.

With the talent on O and the emerging D, this should not be another wasted season with #12.

MM has one of the best O lines in the NFL and mostly only employs them for pass blocking. 36% run plays and hardly any when 2nd or 3rd and short.

Nice job on that "self scout", MM. More BS from this declining coach.

Bure9620's picture

I am a melo guy. I am. I fucking lost it after this game. We outplayed the Rams!! And lost! WTF? All calls,bounces and inches plays went to them. We still had a chance!! Who the fuck fumbles there on a KO???? Seriously who? Only the Packers. I would cut Monty here if he was told to not bring it out. God I am tired of this shit.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

"mello"

Rossonero's picture

The Packers find the most creative and cruel ways to lose.

Whether it's Brandon Bostick trying to be a hero, Mason Crosby missing 4 FGs, the refs flagging Matthews for a sack, or Ty Montgomery deciding to run the ball out, this was just as infuriating. I would've rather been blown out.

Let me be the first to say that Mike McCarthy had this team ready to play. We weren't perfect, but far less penalties and no turnovers until Montgomery's screamer.

The defense-- wow. Where has this been all season?? Something about Jaire Alexander is on the field and we have swagger with him.

Like Since '61 said, if Ron Zook left it up to Montgomery to run it out, he should be fired. We have no timeouts left, just kneel and we're on the 25. Like Bill Belichick says, "just do your job."

Over and over and over, we have players that choose to be individuals in a big moment, and do something dumb. This was beyond stupid and reaches into the realm of imbecilic.

What will happen vs. New England next week? I don't want to know how this team will screw it up with some stupid play. And for anyone saying "there's lots of games left," you can shove it. You only get so many chances and when those opportunities to win pass by, it always has and always will haunt you later in the season. I am disgusted.

The TKstinator's picture

And Michael Meyers will haunt you for generations, until Jamie Lee the Granny is fed up and takes revenge.

Golden Retriever's picture

“Thinking you have one last shot only to watch your team fart it away is pretty much the defining image of McCarthy's tenure since 2011”

My sentiments exactly, Aaron. So depressing.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

The coaching is to blame no matter how you look at it!! Special teams coach sucks.

And defensive coordinator is iffy. We could have still stopped them on 3rd down, but the Rams out coached our def coordinator on the last play with that sweep to Gurley.

Defense played good.

LambeauPlain's picture

In their defense, the D was completely gassed by the 4th quarter because MMs O kept putting them back on the field.

Over 20 more plays for the D than for the O.

I told my brother once the Rams took the lead that the D was now going to get worn down by MMs 3 and out play calling.

Pierre's picture

The GB offense has to play with more urgency and score early...and in the middle of the game...at least keep moving the chains to give the defense time to rest. This is a game they could have easily won in the first half if not for all the offensive 3 and outs by the Rodgers led offense. Same offensive inconsistency seen every game.

LambeauPlain's picture

In their defense, the D was completely gassed by the 4th quarter because MMs O kept putting them back on the field.

Over 20 more plays for the D than for the O.

I told my brother once the Rams took the lead that the D was now going to get worn down by MMs 3 and out play calling.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Your right. Just frustrated.

The TKstinator's picture

“Your right” is actually wrong.

dobber's picture

It's typically where I hold my beer.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Your wrong is right?

Squirrel!

nostradanus's picture

After McCarthy is out coached and the Packers are throttled and embarrassed By New England. He will lose the locker room and his pathetic house of cards will collapse by years end mercifully ending his tenure as Head Coach of the Green Bay Packers.
He’s been riding the Rodgers gravy train far too long. Show McCarthy the door!
Can I get an Amen brothers & sisters?!

fastmoving's picture

"After McCarthy is out coached and the Packers are throttled and embarrassed By New England."

thats what the cry babies said last week too and look...in the end you embarrassed yourself like always. over and over again.

brain is the enemy of the people and a wig here best friend. give me a break...…..

Dave in Texas's picture

Does anyone other than myself think McCarthy should have challenged the play before the safety? It seemed to me like there was better than a 50/50 chance the Ram touched the goal line while trying to down the punt at the one. I thought it was worth the chance on a timeout to get the ball at the 20. Or was I imagining things and McCarthy should not have wasted a challenge?

holmesmd's picture

I don’t agree. He clearly did not and if you are correct, there was not enough video evidence to overturn the call IMO.

Dave in Texas's picture

I agree on it being too close to overturn; however, I thought the same on the reversed jimmy Grahm TD. Ya, it looked in super slow mo like he was 4 inches short, but how often do they take away a TD that razor close? Same with the reverse on the out of bounds reception that was reversed for the Rams. And the ball caught along the top edge of the grass blades? I think the reverses were correct, and I am not complaining. Though, I think one could argue the video evidence was not clear enough to overrule the calls on the field.

Anyhow, I’d like to see some other angles in super slow-mo of the Ram tightroping the goalline. There is usually one looking right down the goal line.

pacman's picture

I used to like Monty but he never developed as anything significant. So unless he was told to take the ball out, he just has to go to as an example.

Whoever called the play to run Jones out of the end zone up the middle has to be cut too. That's a job for Eddie Lacy types.

We got beat in the trenches today. Goff had too much time and AR not enough. What's with those delayed blitzes? Blitzing was working. Either blitz or don't. But almost all the sacks and pressure was do to coverage.

Game ball goes to Alexander. Without him this would have been a blowout.

At least AR threw the ball away a few times as needed today but missed some of those short dump offs - like he has done many times this year.

A valiant effort with one very stupid play and a few semi-stupid ones. Good teams don't do that as has been stated multiple times already. My guess is Gute is having drinks now with Murphy about when to can MM.

stockholder's picture

Monty - Stays. Remove him from KOs. He fumbles like that again, he'll be out of football. Jones vision should have kicked in. Panic! The hole was left. The packers defense was praised continually by the booth. Delayed blitzing was because the Middle was exposed. Also Williams rushed, and Goeff read it quick. Big plays. Goeff tried to blow out the packers by keeping A--Rod on the bench. After the Rams scored, A-rod answered! It put doubt in the Rams and the packers had the shot to Win if monty didn't drop it. Good teams have younger faster players.( example the Rams ). Goeff knew how to hit his guys with a quick pass. A-rod is losing that. When a QB plays Catch-up. He's wrong. When a QB plays to put the NAIL in the coffin. He wins. The packers need to switch beers, From bud lite back to Miller High Life!

19TitleTown19's picture

Saw Brice and Burks get snaps. Even saw Lancaster and Adams early. Who I didn’t saw was Josh Jackson at all. I like Tramon but he’s losing steps every game. Is Nick Perry alive? I saw him but just thought maybe it was his body they are toting around for Halloween decorations.

19TitleTown19's picture

See not saw, spellchecker!!

packerbackerjim's picture

Monty should be cut but he won’t because there is no RB depth. Had Trevor Davis been able and activated he would be the KR. But the larger point is MM’s insistence on making the square peg for the round hole. The run resulting In The safety
should have been attempted by Williams who excels in tough yardage. The short passes to Jones were incomplete and that is not a strength of his, but it is for Williams. But for Jones having 12 carries defies any logic. Had the offense performed consistently the defense was more than good enough to win an away game against the Rams

Rick Gilbertson's picture

You are highlighting exactly why Jones isn't getting more carries. He's only good for certain situations. He's a liability in pass protection, pass catching, and short yardage. So if he can only be on the field for the plays he's going to get handed the ball, Defenses will figure out pretty quick how to stop him. He is doing great for the 12 or so carries he gets a game, but he's a step down from Williams in the other aspects of the position. That's why there is a platoon approach with the running game.

badaxed's picture

Good night John boy! Good night Mary ellen! Goodbye mccarthy!

Chuck Farley's picture

At the San Diego zoo today only caught last 4 minutes, the lost minutes. Monty catching the ball? That you put squarely on bad coaching. Dumb plays are due to bad coaching. Dumb players are those you cut or suffer with them.
Mm is too dam involved in his little play calling charts to know what is going on. Leadership is missing at game time.
I will say that the d understood the importance of this game and came out to play. Give them that.

Oppy's picture

I think during the second half we may have had a window into why Jones is not the bell cow back everyone wants him to be.

Not 100% sure, but it looked like on two or theee different plays Rodgers and other players had to direct him on or off the field. He seemed to be very confused as to his assignment and even if he was part of the particular personnel package.

I wonder if he just doesn’t have the playbook committed to memory. Those are the types of issues that can cost a team time outs, costly penalties- and Rodgers/MM do not tolerate it. Just a thought based on in game observation, I haven’t gone back and rewatched to confirm.

cheesycowboy's picture

This team needs to win 7 of the last 9 games to be in a position to make the playoffs. That being said, this season ended before it began.
The Packers are officially mediocre.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

No, just the head coach.

Booner's picture

1. Lining Jones up 4 yards deep in the end zone to run up the gut on the 1 yard line. Fail repeat the course.
2. Montgomery are you kidding me! Fail repeat the course.
3. Punt the ball Scott! Fail repeat the course.
4. Zook and his Special Teams.Fail repeat the course.

My prediction if we loose to New England this week McCarthy and Murphy are gone after this season!

fthisJack's picture

Rodgers needs to quit trying to draw the other team off side and then burning a TO. it works once every decade now. and then you would think the coaching staff would come up with a good play to get the first down and they run Williams??? maybe if Jones is in there but Williams? Really?

Rick Gilbertson's picture

A big reason Jones isn't the every down back was apparent on the sack that killed our first drive. Jones coming out of the backfield dodged the blitzing linebacker who made the sack. A chip would have likely slowed the guy down enough for Rodgers to scramble out of the way, but Jones blew right past him. He's a great runner, but he appears to be a huge liability in pass defense.

podrick's picture

It really is mystifying how cold this team goes on offense for long, long stretches.

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