Gut Reactions: Rams: 29 Packers: 27

  • Why take the ball out of the endzone?
  • That was an outstanding performance by the defense. 
  • It's incredible how McCarthy refuses to ride Aaron Jones
  • The execution on that draw play for a TD was incredible. 
  • Nice to see Tonyan get some playing time. 
  • Jaire Alexander is the freaking man. 
  • That was a hell of a sack by Fackrell
  • Kenny Clark dominated that game. 
  • I can't believe they came out of a timeout with the plan being "Lane Taylor, you take care of Aaron Donald by yourself" He's the ONE guy who can completely wreck your offense. 
  • No, but seriously, how does Ty Montgomery not have two hands on the ball if he's going to bring it out?
  • It really is mystyfying how cold this team goes on offense for long, long stretches. 
  • There is not a cornerback in the league that can check Davante Adams off the line of scrimmage. 
  • An actual sentinent human thought running Aaron Jones out of the endzone into the teeth of the Rams defense was a good idea. 
  • I remember one (incomplete) slant to Jimmy Graham, but outside of that, what should be a staple of the Packers offense, especially on a day where corners were playing well off, was completely MIA. 
  • JK Scott doesn't look worth a 7th round pick, let alone a 5th rounder. 
  • Thinking you have one last shot only to watch your team fart it away is pretty much the defining image of McCarthy's tenure since 2011; 
  • I need so many drinks. 
  • Go Pack. 
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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:17 pm

When Ty fumbled, I think I could hear Trevor Davis screaming Thank You from my living room.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 29, 2018 at 06:08 am

Trevor Davis was in your living room?

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 29, 2018 at 06:16 am

No, that's the joke.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

October 29, 2018 at 08:37 am

You seriously thought he was serious? Serious?

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:17 pm

Gut reactions:

McCarthy out coached again.
Roger's wastes another precious time out. So does MM.
Terrible call on safety.
Montgomery goat of game. Just a stupid rookie play.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:21 pm

Call
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Execution/result?

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:24 pm

Both. If the handoff was to Williams only the execution.

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:25 pm

Both

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Oppy's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:25 pm

Really don't get the "MM out-coached" stuff after this game.

The Packers came into this game against a vastly superior Rams team who they weren't supposed to be able to contain or keep up with.

It went down to the wire and a mental error by Ty Montgomery sealed the Packers' fate.

The only coaching decision I saw today that seemed like a blatant miscalculation was having Aaron Jones on the field when trying to get out of the endzone. I immediately wondered why Jamaal Williams wasn't out there for that rep. Although Williams did get stopped for a loss earlier in the game, his history shows that he almost never runs for negative yardage. As good as Aaron Jones is, he's not a short yardage back.

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Graham Crackah's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:43 pm

And then not having Jones in for 3-4 other series with better field position. I think we blame MM because it seems to be pretty blatant stubbornness.

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Oppy's picture

October 30, 2018 at 10:15 am

Aaron Jones was on the field for 62% of all offensive snaps (32 snaps out of 52).

Does that make McCarthy 38% stubborn?

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mrj007's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:46 pm

I wish you were coaching.... Packers could easily bw 5-2, and could have won today if not for the ryn out endzone, stupid Montgomery, and those pass plays called on 3rd and 2.

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fastmoving's picture

October 29, 2018 at 04:17 am

I always knew KNEELING is good and the players should it do way more....!!!

and by the way .......mrj007...........I sure you never mad a mistake at all the sports you did not play. and your brain is probably ever sharper then your athletic skills........

man.......buy you a wig!!

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mnklitzke's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:08 pm

Out coached as not playing your best players. Jones needs 20 carries a game. Why was Breeland a healthy scratch??

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Justin Morrow's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:42 pm

I was pissed when hearing Breeland was a healthy scratch.

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Jordan's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:30 pm

A vastly superior Rams team? Says who? I tried explaining to people all week that the Rams weren't much better than the Vikings.

Once again, Aaron Rodgers got outplayed. Not by much, but he was still outplayed by the opposing QB. must be the knee.

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fthisJack's picture

October 29, 2018 at 08:52 am

it didn't matter who was in the backfield on the safety. logic tells you the other team is going to play the run so why do you hand the ball off 7 yards deep in the endzone when you are on the goal line. a quick hitter to get some breathing room is a better play or a pass. that was a totally stupid call.

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Nick Perry's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:45 pm

Just a thought but WHY doesn't the ST Coach Zook AND McCarthy actually do some coaching DURING the game and make sure they understand....DON'T TAKE THE BALL OUT ON THE KO!!!!!!!

Now I understand it was a HORRIBLE play by Montgomery, boneheaded to the 10th degree. BUT when you have a chance down by two with Aaron Rodgers as your QB with 2 minutes MAKE SURE!! Take the 15 rat ass seconds it would take to tell them...TAKE a KNEE!!

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:04 pm

But should he really have to be TOLD? He's not a rookie. He graduated from Stanford. I mean, do you have to be told not to touch the burner on the stove when it's on? Come on!

Just release the guy. We don't need him. At least it would send a message to the other players that extreme stupidity won't be tolerated.

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jhalwas611.com's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:16 pm

Couldn't agree more. If Montgomery was told to not bring the ball out he should be cut. An example must be set . That's basic coaching to remind the players of the situation. Save the time, the possession and field position.

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Revel8's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:15 pm

Montgomery had the worst game of his career. He not only took the ball out of the end zone when you never do it in that situation, he missed multiple key blocks on offense.

Rodgers had to call a time out because Linsley wasn't snapping him the ball when he was calling for it. It was not a planned play to call a time out there, like the announcers were acting. This was actually a well-coached game by McCarthy and Pettine. This team can hang with anyone in the NFL.

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Rak47's picture

October 29, 2018 at 12:43 am

That call in the endzone was one of the worst damn calls I've ever seen. Did McCarthy really think it was a good idea to try and power run up the gut against Suh and Donald with 10 Rams in the box? WTH? Seriously? And why on God's green earth was Monty bringing the ball out on that kick return? WTH? Why didn't Zook or McCarthy tell him to take a knee and let AR do his thing? And the worst point regarding Monty's fumble is he didn't get gang tackled and stripped, one freaking guy stood him up and stripped him clean. Are you kidding me? He is the very definition of looks like Tarzan plays like Jane! I can't recall exact instances but this doesn't seem like his first costly fumble for the Packers. For a Stanford guy that TT seem to love so much he sure made a boneheaded play.

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egbertsouse's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:19 pm

Ty Montgomery is an absolute waste of a roster spot. He brings nothing to the table; can’t run, can’t catch, crap returner, and, for a Stanford guy, is a complete meathead.

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KenEllis's picture

October 28, 2018 at 11:29 pm

Ty, who was drafted as a wide receiver and now is the third string running back, is the last remaining member of Ted Thompson's 2015 draft class on the Packers' roster.

Wonder if he'll last the season?

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4thand10's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:45 am

The sad and crappy part about that is he was really starting to turn into a good slot WR before his first injury. Then he recovered from that. After he recovered they moved him to RB out of needn’t the time...and the experiment just hasn’t ended. That Ty RB experiment needed to be over a long time ago..

Plenty of others who could return kick offs ...MVS comes to mind. Getting some value out of Cobb returning also comes to mind.

But either way, that was such a horrible play....I would cut him just to send a message. We had a chance and he is responsible for blowing it. Zook needs to have discussions with his players on what to do in crucial moments.

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Chuck Farley's picture

October 29, 2018 at 10:18 am

Word is he had a pee contest with the coaches prior and WAS instructed to take a knee and dis regarded it.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:03 pm

Moral victory.
23 is a good player.
So are 97, 50, 69, 33, 12, 17, 20, and 37.

(Confession time: I don’t believe in moral victories either. I just put that in there to provoke/stir the pot.)

(PS: does “stir the pot” have a different connotation in Colorado?)

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Oppy's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:26 pm

Yeah he is.

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:26 pm

No such thing as a moral victory.

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fastmoving's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:36 am

you have no idea. sure there are moral victories. that one in new england a couple of years ago turned a whole season around. the team feels much better after the moral W and had a ship on his shoulder to get a couple of real wins. they know now they can play with the big ones. changes a lot.
sometimes moral wins are ever bigger than real wins......

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:26 pm

There only are victories. Moral victories are meaningless.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:05 pm

I think you’re confusing that with “immoral” victories. Winning by cheating isn’t really winning.

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Point-Packer's picture

October 29, 2018 at 04:49 pm

Moral victories are for losers.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 29, 2018 at 06:12 pm

So, immoral victories are for winners?

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:20 pm

A playoff caliber team with a .500 coach. Ugh. Time for a drink, indeed....

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:21 pm

MM has to go!

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fastmoving's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:44 am

you have no idea. and if he has to go, not because of this game. but the world must be a easy place for simple guys. theses days more than ever.....
I guess you never had a moral victory.......but plenty of real ones!!!!

what about AR? the L gos on him to way bigger part.

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Denise Chanterelle's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:24 pm

Yes Aaron, Jimmy G missing in action again. How many seasons now has it been w/o a solid TE! I’ve lost count and this was a poorly coached game. We’re running out of time on this season. I guess we have to pull for NO tonite even if that hurts our 1st round seed from them next year. Ugh.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:26 pm

Maybe the TE du jour is not actually the problem with the TE in the Packers offense.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:30 pm

It seems like we are forcing the ball to Graham, and for the most part, even that doesn't help sufficiently.

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mrj007's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:05 pm

He is rarely open

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:08 pm

Not sure what you are talking about? GB took arguably the best team in the league down to the wire. One poopy pants play from #88 probably prevented them from winning. Were you betting against #12 getting into FG range? I certainly wasn’t.....nor were 95% of the people watching the game. I get the pile on and all the silly jibber jabber but by all stats, metrics, and the eye test....we played these guys to the wire. Whoever thinks we should have won the MN game, they certainly can’t think any differently about this game. It sucks but we have a talented team who can play with anyone....and the best QB alive. Keep your powder dry and gain perspective. On to NE!

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:03 pm

I especially like that second last sentence, but you left out “vent your spleen at full volume and show everybody your amazing combination of superior knowledge of football strategy and unbridled passion!”

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TXCHEESE's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:24 pm

How can you say McCarthy was out coached. Team was ready to play. Zook needs his ass canned (as well as Montgomery needs his ass cut) for not making sure under no circumstances do you bring the football out if it flies to the end zone. That would have given the offense one additional play prior to the two minute warning. We’ll see if Gute has enough balls to send Montgomery packing. He’s not someone that has made any significant positive impact. I used to be a huge supporter of him, but too many injuries, and always suspect ball protection.

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CAG123's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:27 pm

He wasted the efforts of the defense in the first half and gave them momentum with that stupid safety run up the middle. The offense took a nap for a quarter and a half they could have easily had them down 13-0 or even 17 if MM was playing to win instead of not to lose.

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Pierre's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:35 pm

Absolutely right. While the Packers defense forced the Rams into 4 punts in the first half, after GB got 10 points, Rodgers and the offense ONLY GOT 28 yards on 4 possessions!!! GB defense was playing their hearts out the first half and Rodgers could not even move the chains to get first downs during that time they were “asleep” on offense. That’s when they should have kept scoring but as always Rodgers is just aggressive downfield a lot of 2nd and 3rd quarters. They could of smashed this Ram team if their offense just played a complete game on the attack instead of the same pattern of plays for those 4 worthless offensive series. Kudos to the Packers Defense!!!

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Tundraboy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:18 am

Exactly. Killer instinct,forget about it. I don't think he is passionate enough about winning, every dam game you can. You think he would have at least learned his lesson by now.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:28 pm

Those where problems too. But, McCarthy was outcoached. Phillips made adjustments and McCarthy reverted to the same crap that has been problematic since 2015.

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:28 pm

Good points but MM still got out coached.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:34 pm

Hey idiot stop repeating yourself that he got outcoached and provide some context...

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:22 pm

He got out coached...in Los Angeles.

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beercheese's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:33 pm

It's not as though McCarthy is a bad coach, but he's just so predictable. The play call that ended in a safety, I don't think that was a bad call, but why was Jones in there instead of Williams. If McCarthy were to give an honest answer, I think it the answer would be.... "it was his turn". That's just a small example. He appears to be too stubborn to change his ways.

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BamaPackFan's picture

October 28, 2018 at 11:42 pm

Yeah... surely Williams would have stiff armed Aaron Donald and run right over Suh. Just NOT the place you want to try and run into in that situation.

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CAG123's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:24 pm

It took me a while to get here but even if the Packers had won I’m just done with MM at this point. You have the best team in the NFL down 10-0 you’re supposed to do everything possible to keep your foot on their necks and not give them momentum MM failed to do either from the second to third quarters and the safety before the half was just inexcusable. It’s almost like he did it on purpose they could have had them down 13-0 maybe even 17 and that puts a lot more pressure on the on the Rams instead an inspired effort by the defense went to waste. I’m done with MM.

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:35 pm

Exactly!

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:15 pm

MM doesn’t block, make reads, catch the ball, or tackle. Other than getting away from Jones toting the rock too early, I saw nothing wrong with most of the calls. If you can’t get a yard to get out of your own end zone, that’s not MM’s fault IMO. #12 could have checked out of it anyway and fired something over the top. He didn’t, they didn’t, and a baffling play cost them the game. It’s football. It happens.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:23 pm

Your logical, sensible comments have no place here, sir. Grab a torch and pitchfork like the rest of us, or kindly take your leave.

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4thand1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:26 pm

There are no moral victories. Monty owes me a new TV.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:25 pm

I think Best Buy just scored one.

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Since'61's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:26 pm

These are the type of losses that get players chucked and coaches fired. Monty should be chucked just like Bostic was. Zook should be fired and if this season continues to go South MM needs to go as well.

After the Bostic debacle in the 2014 NFCCG how can we allow another player to make a similar stupid play. Why is there any consideration given to running the ball out of the end zone when we have Aaron Rodgers one of the best 4th quarter winning drive QBs of all time. I'm not saying that we would have scored but you need to give Rodgers a chance at least.

The Packers had played a near perfect game up to that point. It was their best game of the year that we all had been hoping for.

Why does this keep happening with our players making stupid plays, especially at critical times late in the game? No excuses acceptable. If the coaches did not tell Monty to stay in the end zone they should be fired. If Monty made the decision oh his own, chuck him, now, don't even bring him back to Green Bay.

To lose this way is just too frustrating to imagine or understand. 2014 NFCCG all over again. We don't give the ball to Aaron Jones enough but we allow Monty to take the ball out of the end zone when all we need is a FG to win. This is beyond stupid. This is unacceptable and irresponsible. A High School team would not make the mistake that Monty made.

Total waste of a great team effort. Thanks, Since '61

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flackcatcher's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:04 pm

What a gut shot '61. Monty why, WHY?. He is too smart a player to pull this crap. Looking on the bright side, this team can play a complete game, the veterans are upping their level of game play, the rookies are indeed very good and despite the carping from us fans, the coaches can still coach at a high level. We found that out today, still lets remember more often than not that football games are won with luck, chance, and boneheaded decisions going your way. Today, was the Rams day, but as we all know these things usually even out, even in a short season the games like football plays. Now if you will all excuse me, I'm going to hide under my blankets now............:)

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:08 pm

Maybe 88 was planning to take it to the haus and spare 12 the effort?

(And the ‘haus’ is in Germany.)

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:20 pm

Were you watching the same game as the rest of us?

You make football sound like some kind of lottery game. I guess the over 700 games the Packers have won over their history is mostly due to luck.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:27 pm

Who are you talking to?

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Cwilly's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:29 pm

Worst coached football team. And mccarthys tenure won’t be remembered super bowl but how to lose every game that mattered by blunders. Either it’s personnel or it’s just coaching once again we loss with arod not getting the ball. Sounds so familiar!

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Pierre's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:42 pm

You’re right. A lot of suspect calls and lack of team discipline. MM says Monty is suppose to take a knee but then also says that “he’s trying to make a play”? Yeah, just like Bostick tried to make a play!! The point is, do your job as the coach says to or else face the consequences. There is just no excuse for not taking a knee in that situation! It’s beyond belief!

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jhlisic's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:30 pm

The offense is infuriating. They couldn't capitalize on dominant defensive play. Reminded me of the Vikings game where GB should've had a bigger lead and snuffed out any possibility of a comeback by the opposition.
The most frustrating part is that the offense has the benefit of experience and familiarity.
Great QB, explosive RBs, great route running veteran WRs mixed with improving rookie receivers, and also one of the best offensive lines in the league. They should be putting up 30 points a game easily.
The defense has a new coordinator and a bunch of rookies as defensive backs, and they are playing their ass off.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:30 pm

Another choke job for the Packers in an important game. Sigh. It's happened so regularly since 2014, you just come to expect it.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:28 pm

Real bad play at the end, but the overall performance was much better than I was anticipating.

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Pierre's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:42 pm

Great defensive effort however.

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Oppy's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:33 pm

People like to bag on Haha Clinton-Dix, but really, the issue isn't HaHa. It's the other safety position that needs plugging. Whitehead did not have a good day today outside of special teams play.

Speaking of STs play, what gives with JK Scott today? I know Rams' punt coverage units are known for getting blocks, I wonder if JK was having to short-kick the ball to get it off before defenders got a hand on it.

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HankScorpio's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:03 pm

Safety is the hardest position in football. Basically, doing the job right is in direct conflict with all the new player safety rules these days. It has obviously affected the way Safeties play across the league. It has shown with both HHCD and Brice, for sure. The Vikings miracle playoff win was because the Safety coming in for the big hit pulled out over fear of a flag.

I would not be surprised to see the position become like FBs, where the position is gradually de-emphasized until some teams carry none on the roster. It's nothing but CBs in the DB room. And the teams that do still carry the position on the roster will use those guys sparingly.

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:28 pm

You don’t mean Sandeo spearing Adams in the head I hope?! That was about as silly of a blown call as I’ve seen all friggin year. This year, the team is about 4 crappy calls away from being 6-2...as genius Rodgers said a week before the bye. Chill out. League parity is the product and the goal. Every team can win any game. It’s by design. As a fan you should celebrate when your team goes down to the wire with the most complete team in football( arguably). If GB wins 2 out of the next 3, they’ll remain wildcard contenders. Home field advantage is out of reach, the Division is still there, let’s see what happens. Crapping your pamper after every loss accomplishes what exactly?

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:30 pm

Um, ...sells more pampers?

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:04 pm

I thought Whitehead did a good job on Gurley in the first half. Did Brice even play?

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:35 am

Whitehead was spying Gurley (and lost him) on one of gurley’s Huge chunks of yardage out of the backfield on a pass. Whitehead was picked on in coverage as well. Number 35 was all over the field in the unflattering way last night.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:34 pm

Now TTs failure in the 2015 draft is complete.

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Rak47's picture

October 29, 2018 at 04:33 am

Just read an article on how Monty threw a tantrum on the sideline on the previous serious before the kickoff fumble, and how he was mad and disregarded the coaches instructions to take a knee. WoW! Article also say's Rodgers was P!#* off and screamed at Monty afterward "take an effing knee". Holy cow can we say outta here by the trade deadline?www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000980254/article/rodgers-doesnt-get-chanc...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 29, 2018 at 05:46 am

I don't know the author and (not surprisingly to me anyway) no attribution or corroboration by a WI beat writer, but this is a damning article.

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Rak47's picture

October 29, 2018 at 12:29 pm

It was written by Michael Silver of NFL Network. Although I understand you may not know him personally.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 29, 2018 at 06:23 am

Wow, I hope that's not true. But, if it is he should be immediately released.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2018 at 07:06 am

If true, and at this point the ‘if’ is real, I quite agree. That would be completely unacceptable and we should not tolerate it.

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:35 pm

Does anybody feel like putting a bag over their head?

What a wonderful effort by the defense wasted by one player on special teams. Just release him. Whatever he brings to the table can be easily replaced by the other backs and receivers. I don't want to see any more boneheads on this team.

Fire Zook. What's the point of having a special teams coach if they're going to do stuff like this? Our punter was terrible, their punter completed a pass, and then the Montgomery mistake; our special teams are absolutely cursed--or maybe they have no awareness when they get out on the field.

This whole game was so reminiscent of the Seattle championship game--almost a great victory but unable to close due to unforgivable stupidity.

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:34 pm

What game did you watch? Our ST play was very very good. They screwed up 2 plays: King got beat on a pansy fake pass, and Monty shit his brain off and booted a KO. Other than that, ST’s was solid....aside from Scott forgetting how to punt of course. If you can’t punt in LA, you can’t punt anywhere. The coverage units were very good and Josh Jones had a big ST contribution. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water folks.;)

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Mojo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 11:08 pm

Let's see, ST's were good except for a fumble at the most critical time by someone who should have never brought the ball out in the first place, a punter who pooped the bed all game long, giving up an easy pass on a short distance throw fake punt by LA and no punt or kick return threat by GB returners.

I'm confused at what constitutes crappy ST play.

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:41 am

Giving up an easy short pass on a fake punt pass?

I think people are being ridiculous on this one. Perhaps not listening to aikman’s chatter would be a start.

It sucks that they got the first down, but plays like that one can easily become TDS. Kings primary job is to run down field and get into position to block for the return man. The fact he sensed that his man peeled off and recovered to stick the receiver before he broke downfield further showed pretty good awareness and potentially prevented a TD all things considered

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October 29, 2018 at 02:43 am

I have to watch the play again, I guess.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2018 at 07:11 am

ST play was good. Coverage was great. King was fooled by a trick play well executed but aware enough to recover to take the catcher down. Monty’s play was individual failure.

The only real disappointment other than Monty was in the punting. A bad day by Scott. From a coaching perspective Zook did well by the looks of it.

Scott is a rookie. He will need to mature, and I believe he will.

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October 29, 2018 at 11:18 am

Arg. I'd love to coach against Oppy. He has no problem giving large cushions and conceding easy tosses on 4th and 3 plays. I'd probably end-up with 70 points with his way of thinking.

Kings FIRST responsibility is to make sure the eligible receiver he's guarding doesn't catch a pass for a first down. He needs to play tighter and put doubt into the punters mind about even trying the play. Else, why not just settle in 25 to 30 yards downfield where you can pick off the gunner easier? Why not have a lineman outside who can block better rather than a CB? He should be guarding (somewhat closely), his man until he sees the punter committing to the punt. Then the SECOND thing you do is try to get into a position to block. I don't need Aikman to tell me this.

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 04:15 pm

That was Sam Shields out there.

There's no way Kevin King- or nearly anyone one else on the Packers squad- can hang with Sam Shields (who shows full sprint off the LOS) without flipping your hips and getting out of a backpedal.

If you don't give a true low 4.3 runner a cushion, you're left in the dirt.
Stick with aikman.

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October 29, 2018 at 11:59 pm

No one can hang with Sam Shields? - you've got to be kidding. It's what Kevin King does for a living. Playing against fast guys, slow guys, tall guys, kids who climb on rocks it's what he's been trained to stop. He's a cornerback not a schlep. He's gone against some of the best receivers in the league already much less the other teams CB.

King - a fast (4.4 speed) tall CB with great flexibility. One of the best athletes at his position coming out (maybe the best). You're saying he can't keep up with another CB? Absolutely ridiculous. If Shields is such a threat then why isn't playing every down as a receiver? According to your logic he'd be averaging ten TD's a game since he's so unstoppable.

On a fourth and three you can't give a ten yard plus cushion on anybody. Easy pitch and catch. I guarantee if Hekker sees King even close to Shield he doesn't even attempt the pass. Even if he does, King is then in position to defend it. And a go route by Shields with the punter throwing, I'll take my chances.

Another thing I'll guarantee, the coaching staff reminding King the next time a gunner is only three yards from a first, don't give a ten yard cushion, turn around and head downfield. It was a mistake on Kings part and a bad play by the ST's.

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October 30, 2018 at 02:56 am

Shields is a CB because he doesn't have NFL level WR hands. He was a WR in college.

And, yes, CB's often give large cushions to WR's with true 4.3 speed. For the record, while you're talking about a 10 yard cushion.. in reality, King was roughly 5 yards off of Shields at the snap of the ball.

But you seem to keep on ignoring the fact this wasn't a normal down. It was a clear punting situation- 4th down from the Rams' 43 yard line. When defending a WR, you can trail the WR and still do your job. When you're blocking a gunner, once he's even a half step ahead of you, you've failed to do your job. You can no longer block that player.

The Rams ran a fake punt and it worked. It wasn't because of an all-out failure by the defender. It's because the play itself was ran in a circumstance where it is unlikely to be expected, and it took advantage of the way a defender has to play a gunner with top flight speed.

It is what it is. Will the coaching staff review that play? Sure they will. I don't think they're going to be too hard on King, however. They will probably decide that they should play less pressure vs. the Rams when they punt and shields is on the field- then they'd have two defenders over the gunner instead of just one, and they could afford to have one defender jam the gunner while the other runs with him. I don't think the coaches are going to have the hard-on for crucifying King that you do on that play. Over a 12 year span (2000-2012), there was merely a total of 213 fake punts/FGs in the NFL. Note, that's both fake punts and fake FGs. Simply put, it is not generally expected, and even less so when the punt is from short of mid-field. The Rams got one on the Packers. Oh, and I'm a horrible coach that you'd whoop up on in some fantasy world you've created where we're NFL coaches. Okay, whatever. On to the next one.

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October 30, 2018 at 11:51 am

You're right, the Rams rarely attempt fake punts. Who would even suspect? This from NFL.com:

" Over the years, the Rams have been known to pull a little trickeration with their punter, Johnny Hekker. He's thrown at least one pass on a fake punt or field goal during every single season of his career, and now 2018 is no different. This particularly gambit, however, was unsuccessful, thanks to heads up coverage from rookie Vikings corner Mike Hughes."

"Here's an incredible string of Hekker statistics: since his debut back in 2012, he has now thrown 16 passes. The next closest punter -- Sam Koch of the Ravens -- has thrown just three. He has nine completions, and the next closest punter -- again, Koch -- has three. He has 137 passing yards and the next closest punters -- Ryan Quigley and Pat O'Donnell -- have just 38 apiece. "

As far as a cushion, what you need to take into consideration, and fail to do, is the distance. If the offense only needs 3 yards against a team that has has a penchant for fake punts, then hell yeah, I'm going to tell my starting caliber CB to play him tight. If it's ten yards, of course he can back-up.

I'd much rather risk a gunner getting past me than an easy toss for a first. BTW gunners often get by anyway, even with deep cushions and it's not like there's never anyone else to pick-him up. Plus, the 43 is not that outrageous a position on the field to eschew a punt.

I never said the coaches were going to "crucify" King either. I hate when people resort to exaggerations to try to bolster their argument. I would expect they would remind him on short-distances against a team with a penchant for fakes to play his man tighter. If not, then as an opponent in those situations I'd go with the fake EVERY time and be successful nearly EVERY time.

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Lphill's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:35 pm

roster moves tomorrow, cut Montgomery and Whitehead move Tramon Williams to safety.

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Coldworld's picture

October 29, 2018 at 07:14 am

Whitehead has done well in a more limited role. He had some decent plays yesterday, but he was asked to do too much perhaps. Agree on Williams moving to safety.

As for Monty, it could be he has sealed his fate if the stories are true. He has not justified his snaps on offense overall this season in my view anyway.

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October 28, 2018 at 07:35 pm

My gut reaction is that if Aaron Rodgers plays like the best player in football for 60 minutes, that game is nearly iced by halftime and the defense doesn't wear down late. He was brilliant in the final 20 minutes. Again. But he was so-so in the first 40. Again. That's a pattern that he needs to correct.

I'm sure plenty of fingers will be pointed elsewhere. And with good reason. There is ample blame to go around for this loss. But none of the others are paid what Rodgers is paid. So none of the others carry the same expectation, at least for me.

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October 28, 2018 at 07:48 pm

Agree 100%. His salary is a reflection of previous performance, relative comparison to his peers, and future expectations. This season he hasn't looked anywhere close to being the best QB in the league.
The skill set is still there, but his decision making seems way off.

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October 28, 2018 at 08:16 pm

In addition to his decision-making, he's making poor throws at a greater rate than his history and contract suggest he should.

I'm no QB guru but he sure seems to pay little attention to his footwork on way too many throws. Sometimes it is fire-drill stuff that only he can do. You're not going to see a beautiful throw mechanic on those plays. But not always. And the results have reflected that, IMO.

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October 28, 2018 at 08:44 pm

Yeah it's frustrating. Games like Chicago, you know you're watching greatness. Then you see him take a rediculous number of sacks in Detroit and LA, when he knows pressure is coming, and he calls timeouts in non-pressure situations, and I don't know what to think. Its almost as if he believes those things don't matter to the outcome of the game

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:41 pm

NFL organizations expect the same competence per their position for all players on the roster. Fans harp on what players make, not teams. If you’re a rookie CB on your 1st deal, they expect you to play at the highest level. QB is a unique position and usually the face of the franchise. Anyone who watched the game today and didn’t see our incredible secondary play for much of the game, doesn’t understand the game. For as cocky and confident as JA is, the guy looked like Revis or Deion Sanders in their prime. He was literally all over the field...in year #1! Jackson must be hurt. I didn’t see him much. KK is another star developing before our eyes. There are pieces in place.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:53 pm

Gotta be confident to play CB in the NFL!!

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October 28, 2018 at 09:04 pm

I agree with what you're saying, particularly about these kids in the secondary. They look like the real deal, and I think the arrow for the defense is pointing up.
My point was that Rodgers has a large body of work which us fans are basing our critique from. At the moment, he looks out of it. He doesn't seem to have any urgency and he's sort of going through the motions.
This team has enough talent to challenge most teams, but the lack of execution, particularly on an offense which has the benefit of experience and familiarity (between coaching staff, players and scheme) is what is most puzzling. They should be scoring 30 a game easily.

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Pierre's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:50 pm

Right on. Middle of the game malaise by Rodgers. He does not play with a sense of urgency each series. Hence we blow nobody out and he is always putting the team in a position of needing a comeback in the fourth quarter. You see it almost every game! With the way the Packer defense was playing GB should have been up 24-0 at the half if Rodgers plays with an urgency to score TDs in the second quarter.

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sonomaca's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:38 pm

Don’t returners get specific instructions about what to do? Perhaps he was told to run it out if it’s less than x yards deep.

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October 28, 2018 at 08:11 pm

If that was what he was told then we need to fire the coach who told Monty that. You have Aaron Rodgers. You take the ball at the 25 yard line with no time wasted and put the ball in Aaron's hands. End of story.

Running out takes time off the clock that Rodgers can use. Next it is unlikely that you return the ball past the 25 unless you are Gale Sayers. Third, you can end up with an unnecessary holding or blocking in the back penalty costing 10 yards of field position and finally and fatally you can end up fumbling the chance for Aaron away and wasting a great team effort.
Therefore as I posted earlier, if a coach told him he could take the ball out of the end zone that coach should fired. In fact Zook should be fired for not screaming very loudly that Monty is not to take the ball out of the end zone before he even went on the field. No excuse. This is just stupid, stupid football. Bad teams make plays like Monty made. Bad coaches allow it to happen. Thanks, Since '61

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October 28, 2018 at 08:40 pm

100% correct.

If monty was told to take a knee and didn't, he should be cut.

If zook failed to directly tell monty to take a knee, he should be cut

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:13 pm

I have it on good authority that he was told to run it out of the endzone and run it all the way to the other end zone.

Shhhhh! Don’t tell nobody but I’m applying for GB’s vacated ST coaching position tomorrow.

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:41 pm

Why waste time outs? They are gold in the second half.

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October 28, 2018 at 07:45 pm

I knew our goose was cooked when it was 3rd and 5 and Rodgers took that dumbass time out. Monty was the icing on the cake.

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:51 pm

Exactly!

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October 28, 2018 at 09:37 pm

@Bearmeat couldn’t help but wonder what the hell Roders was thinking. They didn’t even flinch with 7 seconds on the clock. No reason not to snap it.

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Mojo's picture

October 29, 2018 at 11:20 am

I get the anger at the wasted TO's. We do it every game seemingly every half of every game. I bitch about it all the time, but apparently no one in GB is listening to me. Can't stand it because it almost always comes because ARod insists on winding the play-clock to near zero. I guess it's to read the D, but then why do they seem to have much more success when they snap early. Plus, the D knows when to tee-off putting our line at a disadvantage.

But FWIW one more TO today would just have meant one more kneel-down for LA at the end.

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October 29, 2018 at 01:37 am

"Plus, the D knows when to tee-off putting our line at a disadvantage."

Yessssss. And we wonder why we so often are going three-and-out on 3rd and 2 ,long developing pass plays.

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October 28, 2018 at 07:42 pm

It's gut wrenching to watch a Packers game and waiting for a major F-up to lose it. We have suffered enough.

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October 28, 2018 at 07:46 pm

Agreed.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:14 pm

I thought I was done suffering in the 70’s and 80’s.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:39 am

Hurts more now. At least then we often stunk. No excuse for this now.

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4thand1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:44 pm

Does Aaron Jones get an award for best yards per carry average at the end of the season?

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ScaryGary's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:45 pm

mikeisaverageatbest

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Altered Idol's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:46 pm

Feel really sorry for Jaire today, he played exceptionally. Martinez and Clark were also excellent and didnt deserve to lose. Adams and Aaron Jones were great, MVS made a big play. There are promising signs...

...and its all undone by an inexplicable play. Take the damn knee, we needed a FG to win, thats. Is this a sign of poor coaching or just a bad play? Not sure.

Defeat to the Patriots and things become very tricky. We played well today and once again found a way to shoot ourselves in the foot.

Changes are required in my opinion. The safety position isnt good enough all around and some of the playcalls were mystifying. We need a more consistent pass rush too. There are spots to build around but more quality needed.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:12 pm

Yeah the uncertainty makes gutes job more difficult. Go get a rental pass rusher, and potentially waste draft ammo on a team that isnt putting complete games together? Trade HaHa and grab more draft capital for year 2 of the rebuild? Good luck gute

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:47 pm

There was pocket pressure for much of the game. They ended up with 3-4 sacks as I recall. What more would you like, a sack on every snap?! They also have to defend arguably the most talented back in the league, perhaps except Barkley. It’s not Madden and it damn sure ain’t on the defense for this one.

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October 28, 2018 at 08:56 pm

My comment wasn't blaming the defense for anything, and they definitely got good pressure today. Rumors pregame were that HaHa is on the trading block and GB is actively looking for pass rush help. At 3-3-1, gute has tough decisions to make

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ollie418's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:53 pm

Just a poorly coached team. Period!

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October 28, 2018 at 07:56 pm

Well, at least we know not to draft anymore Stanford players.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:15 pm

Martinez?

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:46 am

Uh... what?

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:46 am

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Packerjeff's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:57 pm

Agree 100% with 61
We were at the game
On the safety packers had a 1 wide receiver lined up on the left
There was no saftey over the top and the CB was lined up 10 yards off him
Why not throw a quick slant?
Heart breaking loss
GO PACK GO

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October 28, 2018 at 07:57 pm

Agree 100% with 61
We were at the game
On the safety packers had a 1 wide receiver lined up on the left
There was no saftey over the top and the CB was lined up 10 yards off him
Why not throw a quick slant?
Heart breaking loss
GO PACK GO

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Disappointed Cheesehead's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:59 pm

Overall, the team played quite well, offense and defense. Consistency was an obvious issue for the offense. Defense was able to pressure Goff and Alexander looked like the second coming of Jesus.

Unfortunately, fixable issues continued to haunt us. Doesn't it feel like we waste one timeout a game hoping Rodgers will draw someone offsides? It almost seems as if they don't have a play call and they plan on using the timeout no matter what.

TY MONTGOMERY, WHY? I could care less if Zook did or didn't advise him to take a knee. How on Eart
h can you justify taking that ball out of the endzone in that situation? The fumble alone makes me want to punch myself in the face but the fact that taking the ball out all but guarantees a lost 2 min warning pause. What a waste.

Changes MUST be made. I don't normally justify cutting a player based on one mistake but I'm making an exception. Players need to be held accountable for making such awful, game altering plays. He's a third string running back who isn't a good enough receiver/blocker to keep. Leave him in Cali and activate Kumerow.

We can't keep handing games away. I didn't expect a W this week. I am still pleased with the way the team played but any more mental mistakes or questionable play calls and this season is over.

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October 28, 2018 at 07:59 pm

This team will NEVER win another SB with MM period.

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Lphill's picture

October 28, 2018 at 07:59 pm

Clay Mathews played good , and 95 was a surprise he seemed to hold up good against the run , Packers needed a turnover maybe a pick 6 just didn't happen , Monty should have known better , cut him and replace him with Kumerow , I think MM is gone after this season regardless , we got a new D coach next it's Head coach it's not good to replace both in the same season.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:00 pm

McCarthy: ‘We’ve got work to do’

He says the same thing for the past 13 years!!

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4thand1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:07 pm

He should be looking for work elsewhere.

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Bill Atkinson's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:01 pm

Why does Zorn still have a job?

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4thand1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:08 pm

Zorn? He used to QB the seaschickens decades ago.

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October 28, 2018 at 11:17 pm

Zorn was in GB too.

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:09 pm

Maybe we should hire this Zorn to be our special teams coordinator. He would be a big improvement over what we've got.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:17 pm

@Bill: Because of a shortage of sweet lefty QB’s.

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jhalwas611.com's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:34 pm

Even the University of Illinois got rid of him!

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EdsLaces's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:08 pm

If our defense played like this against the Lions and the Skins ....

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:09 pm

Hopefully Breeland is close to full health. If this team can make good use of TW at safety, the best is yet to come from this defense in 2018.

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:52 pm

Our corners when healthy are the last of our issues. Every friggin throw or at least most are covered and contested. May I remind you of how that differs from the last 5 years?! I’ll say this, King, JA, and JJackson all have a chance to be all pro’s. That’s pretty encouraging if you ask me!

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October 28, 2018 at 09:05 pm

Yup thats what i said, our corners suck. Good one!

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Tundraboy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:46 am

Yes we have NFL CBs finally. Finally! That and Jones TD run we're things I haven't seen in years.

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nostradanus's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:17 pm

Young receivers - good
Aaron Jones - good
Ty Montgomery- bad
Randall Cobb - overpaid
Nick Perry- overpaid
Clay Mathews- overpaid
Offense Line - good
McCarthy slow developing plays - bad
Wasting timeouts for the past 13 years - bad
Watching another Defensive collapse- bad
Jaire Alexander- good
Clinton Dix - bad
Blake Martinez -good

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October 28, 2018 at 08:18 pm

Succinct: good

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:26 pm

HHCD: okay
Monty: missed picking up Aaron Donald as well.
Tramon: okay, but has lost another half step.
Lowry: nice run D, wish he had more juice.
Clark: dominant.
Burks: I don't remember: did he play?
Brice: I don't remember: did he play?
Bell: Well, it was LAR. Could have been worse.

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:59 pm

Umm, if your Center who is 325lbs can’t block Donald, what is the guy that’s 225 supposed to do?!Lol. I mean he could speed bump it but that’s about it Donald is like Mack, he’s a generational talent with otherworldly size, speed, agility, and power. Then you have Suh who is essentially a bigger version of Donald. So yeah, your RB are supposed to mitigate that?!Lol. Backs tend to pick up LB’s, Safety’s, & CB’s . If You’re expecting enemies Williams to handle a breaching NT with Donald’s talent, you will have tears in your beer every single snap/week.;)

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Mojo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 11:26 pm

Umm, yeah I expect my RB to block a lineman if needed. No ones expecting a pancake block ... just enough to slow him down so your QB has time to react.
Other teams do it all the time even to players such as Donald.

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jww061356's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:21 pm

A dumbass play call/execution by the offense in the first half(the safety) and the what the f*ck was Montgomery thinking? As soon as he started to run it out I was yelling, No, No, NOOOOO! Even if he doesn't fumble, he doesn't run it out anywhere near the 25 and runs precious time off the clock. Cut his ass and put Zook on notice behind closed doors. Cut the stupid sh*t!

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jhalwas611.com's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:32 pm

You have to throw from the 1 yard line. That's basic knowledge. A quick slat to get some room.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:38 pm

Yeah,why wasn't our best RB blocker in the game. Jamal Williams could have stopped A.Donald!

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:04 pm

Uummm, no he couldn’t. Lin’s key is one of the strongest guys on the team and outweighs our biggest back by 100 lbs. He might by a few tenths of a second as a speed bump but he dang sure is stopping Donald or Suh from where they wish to go.

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:05 pm

Typos. Stupid iPhone. Apologies

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:32 pm

Typos Mary.
Most misunderstood woman in history.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:30 pm

Aaron Jones got 12 carries, gained 86 yards for a 7.2 yard average in a game we were never out of. Even without the 33 yard TD run, he'd be 11 for 53 and a 4.8 yard average.

We rushed 18 times (minus scrambles) while LAR rushed 29 times. Someone or someones in GB are Just incapable of learning. 34:10 to 25:50 TOP in favor of LAR. 52 plays to versus 75. Two of nine on 3rd down.

MM teams just can't get over the hump.

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October 28, 2018 at 08:34 pm

Reggie was great with the hump.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:51 am

A few years back wasn't McCarthy always going on about running as many plays as possible. What happened to that.?

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:57 am

I would have liked to see more running once the packers got up 10-0 on an offense I did not believe could be stifled long term. I thought the best opportunity to win was to keep the Rams’ offense off the field.

Looking at the Rams defensive stats, they give up 4.7 a carry (bottom 5 in the league) but are among the stingiest in the NFL in rushing yards per game allowed- mostly because teams get behind their explosive offense and are forced to play catch up via the pass.

Never would have predicted our D would be able to hold the rams down as long as they did. I felt that had the packers played a bit more clock control offense via running the ball when we had the chance iin the first half, we may have prevented one of the rams late first half scores and changed the complexion of the game. Of course, then people would have been screaming about MM taking his foot off the gas. What can you do?

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 01:58 am

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jhalwas611.com's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:30 pm

I know many want to blame Montgomery and I agree with that. But I still believe the coaching is to blame. He should have been told not to bring it out of the end zone and should be gone if he disobeyed that directive. I feel the offensive play calling was again to blame. How? Once again the offense comes out with good momentum then resorted to the tired old offense of the past 10 years. Did anyone else notice how Kendricks was in the backfield and multiple tight end sets in the first quarter then not later? Back to the old ways, predictability !

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:36 pm

Please see “Holmgren, Mike: playcalling vs execution”

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:06 pm

I also noticed those plays where the Rams had all their receivers going in one direction and Gurley going underneath in the other--which resulted in a pretty easy completion and TD. They almost did the same thing for the 2-point conversion. Why can't we do stuff like that? The Packers really need to come up with a reliable short passing game so they can sustain drives and not only score, but keep opposing offenses off the field.

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Rebecca's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:31 pm

Lotta season left. Go Pack Go!

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Rebecca's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:36 pm

This game’s history. I’m encouraged. We know what we’ve got, and odds are this team will encourage and frustrate for the rest of the season. This could have been a season changing win. It wasn’t. Gut check. Accept it and move on. Bring it. Go Pack Go!

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Gman1976's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:34 pm

There’s an old saying, “Good teams find a way to win. Bad teams find a way to lose.” With the talent we have, it’s hard to believe that we are a bad team, but the record speaks for itself. Can we change it around?

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:35 pm

What happened to the day when another player made sure the KR did not take the ball out of the endzone. There used to be a player about 5 yards or so in front of the returner to turn around and say:

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!
KNEEL KNEEL KNEEL KNEEL KNEEL!!

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:38 pm

The CBA and risk of torn ACL’s recently outlawed that practice.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 29, 2018 at 08:39 am

There also usd to be 2 guys in the end zone. One guy on each side of the endzone, then one guy might toss the ball to the other and be the lead blocker for him.

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holmesmd's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:07 pm

When the rules changed and only one guy is deep. Modern era football dictates that “guy” is now a blocker downfield. I remember what you’re describing though:/

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:55 pm

But there are still three players allowed in the general area where the kickoff should land--I think.

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stockholder's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:36 pm

Week after week; I Keep saying MM is the a good coach. Week after week; I watch a veteran blow a game. Week after week; I've watched the kids out play the veterans. Well this week I'm going to say SABOTAGE! This team has screwed up everything they could after Nelson left. My gut reaction; There's not enough money to sign me. So I'll F**K with the fans. Monty knows better. Where was the bone crushing Hit or strip. It has shades of other veterans that left town. CMIII late hits. Cobbs drops, Crosby's misses, and A-rod holding onto the ball to long this year. The more the rookies make their Mark, get playing time, and don't screw -up. The more the vets will be shown the door and they know it. Ok people MM is the Goat. One Super Bowl win full of S**T. The players union is well in Green Bay. But I say Sabotage>.

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:39 pm

Even if we had Devin Hester in his prime in that situation you take a knee and give the back to 12. Cut TY Monday morning. Active Kumerow. See what we can for HA HA via trade. Fire MM and Zook in black Monday. With the talent we have and another offseason and draft. I think we will be very strong Next Year.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:47 pm

What planet fo you come from? There is 60 Minutes on the game clock!! I don't care if you play 59 minutes perfect. You can still lose the game. Your one of those people. Well, we were competitive.

Pip pip and cheerio ol boy. Your just a fair weather fan. It doesn't matter if you win or lose. All that matters is how you play the game.

Here is your participation award.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:50 pm

I thought a fair weather fan was one who only jumps on board when a team is winning.

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Cubbygold's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:52 pm

What?

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:36 pm

Where?

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Since'61's picture

October 28, 2018 at 09:58 pm

Who's on first?

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 10:06 pm

Third base!

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2018 at 02:02 am

I don’t feel tardy.

Okay, unrelated, but I still love that quote. I wonder how waldo is doing nowadays.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:40 pm

All these posts are just calling out two bad plays and wanting to fire everyone. Get over your emotional tantrums and step back and Look at the game as a whole

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The TKstinator's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:44 pm

And watch the sale of pampers go into the toilet? Pun intended or not?
Not on my watch, amigo! GB lost, I’ve got a belly full of beer, and I’m gonna spew my wrath now and the contents of my gut later!

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:47 pm

Not wanting to fire everyone just MM zook anf Ty. I for one have seen enough of these games and MM has no control over this team.

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splitpea1's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:58 pm

We lost the whole game.

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Mojo's picture

October 28, 2018 at 11:33 pm

That's what I was going to say splitpea.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 28, 2018 at 08:42 pm

Most games are decided by 3 pts or less with 2 min. left to play. MM should know this and he has FAILED again! Out coached himself by not making sure his coaches are on the same page as him.

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October 28, 2018 at 08:48 pm

Which page is that? All I see is an enormous, brightly colored laminated sheet. So, letting everyone know “front” or “back” should be pretty easy!

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