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Favre: "Working for Packers Would Be a Dream Job"

Former Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre recently appeared on ESPN Wisconsin's "Wilde & Tausch" radio show.  He spoke about life after football, his family, his playing days and he was also asked for his thoughts about returning to the team.

Favre is 47 years old so there's no question that a return to the Packers wouldn't be as a player, although there are still likely some out there who would wonder.  After all, this is Brett Favre.

Favre said returning to work for the Packers as a coach or in an administrative role would be a dream job.  It was just two years ago that Favre and the Packers publicly reconciled after several years of turmoil that had fractured that relationship.  Favre is a member of the Packers Hall of Fame and also the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

There have been numerous examples of former players returning to a coaching role or a role on the business side as well.  Ozzie Newsome has been a long-time success as general manager of the Baltimore Ravens.  John Elway has also achieved success in the same role with the Denver Broncos.  

As a head coach, Tony Dungy found much success with both the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Indianapolis Colts.  Herm Edwards also forged a lengthy coaching career with the New York Jets and Kansas City Chiefs.

But for every Newsome or Elway, there's also a Matt Milen.  For very Dungy and Edwards, there's a Bart Starr and Mike Singletary.  Favre mentioned Starr specifically during the interview and is aware of some of the pitfalls that former players have run into in other roles around the league.

Regardless of whether it was the individual's fault or not, some situations don't work out for former players.  In the case of a Hall of Famer, it can sometimes change how they're perceived.

In the case of Favre, he was a great quarterback and deserving of entry into the Hall.  He wasn't the best athlete by any means, but he found a way to succeed and generated tons of excitement throughout the 20 seasons that he spent in the NFL.  But would you want him coaching or helping run the Packers?  Does he have the savvy to succeed in the office the way he did on the field?

One factor is the current quarterback.  Aaron Rodgers sat behind Favre for three seasons before taking over as starter.  The beginning of the Rodgers era led to Favre's departure from Green Bay in 2008 and there was no shortage of emotions, bad blood and reaction.  Favre and Rodgers appear to be friendly and could likely co-exist on a personal level but it would be surprising to see Favre back with the team while Rodgers is still playing.

Regardless of how well or badly that situation played out, the level of distraction would be very high.  Every time Rodgers had a bad game or even threw an interception, would there be speculation that it's because Favre is on the sideline?  That's just one example of why it would seem that now isn't an ideal time for Favre to be back with the team.

The question is, would you want Brett Favre coaching or helping run the Packers now or in the future?  If not now, how long before you would be on board with the idea?

 

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Jason is a freelance writer on staff since 2012 and also co-hosts Pulse of the Pack podcast.  You can follow him on Twitter here

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Censored's picture

No I'm good.

Spock's picture

Not going to happen. I loved watching Favre on the field but he avoided training camp like the plague. No way he'd want to put in the huge amount of time (daily) that the coaches do and I don't see him in administration at all. A big NO to this.

CheesyTex's picture

Would love to see Favre actively involved with the Packers -- after Ted Thompson is gone. I don't think he would want to be Head Coach or General Manager, but the excitement and fun he brings are special. Might even have to create a position unique to the NFL -- I would do it in a heartbeat.

Tarynfor12's picture

No upside at all...he'll likely do what's best for him and not the team....egotism must be fed and he seems hungry for relevancy.

Bearmeat's picture

No. No. No. No. No. No. Did I mention HELL NO?

I loved Favre. He is possibly the most physically gifted QB to ever play the game, but he was never a thinker. His body with ARod's mind and the 90's personnel would have been a Patriots style dynasty.

But I don't want him involved with the team in any capacity other than as an assistant QB coach. And would his ego handle that? Nope.

So, hell no.

DThomas's picture

I'm chiming in with another no to this idea. I think Favre returning to the Packers as a coach or in an administrative role is a very bad idea unless the administrative role is as a greeter. Seriously the only role I think is appropriate for him would be in a PR position representing the Packers in a 'good will ambassador' role.

Returning as a coach must have been said as a joke. To expand on what Spock mentioned, Favre complained to Peter King as early as 2002 about having to leave his lawn tractor in Mississippi to go to Green Bay. Of course, coaches work more days and longer hours than players so he'd have to move back to Green Bay and visit his Mississippi homestead for about one month per year. Also, great players aren't always great coaches; particularly players as undisciplined as Favre. Favre being GM is perhaps the worst idea in this conversion: He has no experience in the role and it too would take a huge time commitment that past experience tells us he would be unwilling to make.

The TKstinator's picture

You took the words right off of my keyboard.

Ferrari Driver's picture

Disagree with some of your article, especially when you mention Dungy as a great coach and Starr as a failure.

Put Dungy in Green Bay after Dan Devine traded away the future to get a bench riding old quarterback in a attempt to preserve his job. Dungy would have had a old team with no draft choices. Dungy didn't win in Tampa, but Jon Grudon won there the year after Dungy was fired.

Dungy had Payton Manning as the Colt's coach, the only QB to win FIVE NFL MVP awards. When Dungy left, his replacement went to the Superbowl as well with Manning. When Manning went down with the neck injury the next year, the head coach was sent packing after about 4 wins for the year.

Regarding Favre, he was athletic, competitive, and successful as a quarterback with a 20 Wonderlic Score who didn't know what a nickel defense was when he was a starting quarterback for the Packers. Not exactly the type of mental acumen we are looking for in coaches.

The rest of your article is good as is the case with most all your work.

dblbogey's picture

20 Wonderlic score is a pretty good, compared to the 4 that Brent Fullwood scored. Talk about stupid.

Ferrari Driver's picture

You are addressing two entirely different positions requiring dramatically different mental processing skills.

Arthur Jackson's picture

I would say the claim Gruden is better than than Dungy is bordering on ridiculous. Dungy is in the HOF. There is that right off the bat. 13th best winning % and 22 most wins alltime. Gruden isn't even close. Gruden's claim to fame besides his Chucky resemblance is taking over a team Dungy built, with a killer D Dungy put in place and using his 'offensive genius' to ride a #1 in points and yards defense to a SB win. And then proceed to destroy that team. Dungy did win the SB with Indianapolis.

Ferrari Driver's picture

I'm not certain anyone here said Gruden is a better coach than Dungy. If you are referring to my post where I took exception to the author stated in essence: Dungy good; Starr bad, I was making a statistical point to show why it was so difficult for Bart to succeed put in the situation in which he had to operate and why that would have made it hard for Tony to thrive as well. Conversely, had Bart been put in Tony's situation with the Colt's, I would have expected favorable results.

However, Gruden did win in Tampa and I have to give him credit for that Super Bowl win. Perhaps he is a better head coach than most of us give him credit for.

I do believe that the players a head coach is given with which to work is the single biggest factor in the success of the team and the coach. In other words, there are not too many baffoons in the NFL who become head coaches; they all know football and strategy quite well. Perhaps it is that Belichick is simply the best of the best.

Arthur Jackson's picture

Yes, that would be the post Ferrari and while you did not say "Gruden is a better coach than Dungy" exactly, the totality of your post does say that I believe. Maybe that isn't what you meant and I misunderstood. My apologies.

stockholder's picture

You never know what will happen after TT and MM leave. I believe if Dorsey gets hired. Dorsey will want to his own legacy. He would bring back Favre. You guys are making this to personal. Does he have to go to the Vikings first? If Brett is serious. He should try a coaching position as a QB coach. After all he did mentor A-Rod. Maybe he deserves more credit than we know.

The TKstinator's picture

I thought he went out of his way to explain that he DID NOT mentor A-Rod!

Ferrari Driver's picture

The TKstinator says:
July 03, 2017 at 09:30 am

I thought he went out of his way to explain that he DID NOT mentor A-Rod!

That is indeed a fact.

The TKstinator's picture

You can quote me on that, brochacho!

DThomas's picture

stockholder,
I don't see anyone making this personal. I know for certain I didn't. If Favre was reluctant to take part in mini-camps, what makes you think he'd make the time commitment to be a QB coach, spending 12+hours/day with a little more than one month off per year? His reluctance isn't speculation and it isn't personal. And don't get me wrong, if I were him, I wouldn't want to make that time commitment either.

Favre did very little mentoring of Rodgers, initially because he was pissed he was drafted. That was widely known too and I believe Favre made a statement to that effect. IMO the vast majority of what Rodgers learned from Favre was watching him play. And frankly, watching what not to do: For example, look at Rodgers' aversion to throwing INTs - how can anyone believe he learned that from Favre? (Favre threw more INTs than any NFL QB - albeit with the most attempts - and Rodgers is the all-time career leader in lowest INT percentage.) Also, I remember Favre in his last couple of seasons in Green Bay saying he didn't even know the names of some of the players in camp (when there about 80 players, not when they were down to 53). When Rodgers first took over, he went out of his way to meet all of the players - he invited all of the players to a BBQ party.

No matter who takes over for Thompson or McCarthy, I think Favre is unfit for a job in the personnel department and he'd be unwilling to make the time commitment to be an assistant coach. Even if were willing, I don't think he'd be very good at it because of the undisciplined way he played. And none of that is personal.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Actually, Aaron Rodgers didn't throw interceptions in college either. His aversion to INTs pre-dates his time in GB. IOWs, it is a myth.

DThomas's picture

My point was Favre didn't mentor Rodgers, and that point stands. But you're right: Playing QB at Cal is exactly the same as playing QB in the NFL, particularly for a "Tedford QB". And McCarthy wasn't responsible for training Rodgers and changing his delivery - and he didn't have anything to do with Rodgers' aversion to throwing INTs in the pros.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

So this is commenting on a blog in the age of the internet.

I did not write or even remotely imply the following:

"Playing QB at Cal is exactly the same as playing QB in the NFL;
MM wasn't responsible for training Rodgers
MM was not responsible for changing his [AR's] delivery;
MM didn't have anything to do with AR's aversion to INTs.

DThomas, your reply is intellectually dishonest, since no one should be able to infer any of those 4 things from what I actually wrote. It is a classic strawman's argument. I also never disagreed with your main point that Favre declined to tutor or mentor AR - Favre has been quoted to that effect. However, I can provide some evidence that AR had an aversion to tossing INTs prior to reaching GB (not to say that watching Favre and taking MM's and Clement's coaching did not reinforce that aversion.

Don’t think this all started for Rodgers when McCarthy got hired in 2006.

“I was always pretty good with the football,” Rodgers said. “My touchdown to interception ratio, I think, was 24-to-8 my junior year at Cal, 19-to-5 my sophomore year. And I was 28-to-4 at Butte College. I don’t remember what I was in high school but I was probably about 2-to-1. I knew that from eighth grade, when I started playing football, and on, the only way I was going to be able to stay on the field was if I made good decisions and didn’t turn the ball over. I was in a three-way quarterback competition as an eighth-grader and I got the job in the third week. I threw an interception on the first drive, but was able to hold on to the job somehow. I was in a quarterback competition at Butte Junior College and a quarterback competition at Cal and I knew decision-making was the way I was going to be able to stay out on the field. It’s about calculated risks."

“Throwing six interceptions in a season, throwing five interceptions in a season and both years, over 38 touchdown passes, that is pretty hard to do,” he said. “But a lot of that comes back to the guys coaching you, too. Jeff Tedford in college, Mike and Joe and Tom and Alex… like I said, I love being coached. I love talking football with smart coaches. I love the input, the dialogue, the conversation. I love feeling like I need to play well for my coach, like he is expecting me to play well. It’s fun to be able to make all those coaches proud.”

So, DThomas, do you have anything that suggests prior to his arrival in GB, AR said or thought something like INTs are bad, of course, but... they are price for making something happen, anything after the but? I doubt it, but I'll wait.

DThomas's picture

What I wrote after, "But you're right:" was sarcasm. I should have bracketed it with [sarcasm] but thought it was obvious. But if you want to talk about being intellectually dishonest, look in the mirror. The point of my post was Favre did not mentor Rodgers and I gave two examples. Unless you believe some of what I wrote sarcastically, you nit-picked my post while ignoring the point of it. So this is commenting on a blog in the age of the internet...

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Making a comment about an collateral point even when agreeing with the main point is very common here. Commenters do it all the time with articles and the comments of others. I suppose sometimes it is nitpicking and at other times folks consider it to be a good (or bad) point.

Sarcasm can be a very effective rebuttal if it is on point. If it isn't on point, like here, then it is deflecting or mocking: either way it isn't an honest rejoinder. You can think I'm intellectually dishonest if you like. After all, you think AR formed his apparently intense aversion to throwing INTs only after he came to GB and watched Favre play.

I am a little surprised by your touchiness. I read your response to Zach a few days ago, so I know you can dish out criticism.

Tundraboy's picture

It would just be window dressing. I may be missing something but it's hard to see what Brett could bring as a coach, other than as a QB teacher and his one off style play as a QB just seems out of place.

egbertsouse's picture

What a load of b.s. There is no way Favre wants to get anywhere near GB. He hates the cold, TT, MM and probably WI in general. You put a mike in front of him and he'll say anything he thinks the audience wants to hear. It's all about promoting his GOB brand.

MarkinMadison's picture

Someone must have known I was back after being gone for a month. This is like some kind of April Fool's joke you guys are playing on me right?

Handsback's picture

Favre was a great QB and helped the Packers win a title. If he wants back to capture some of that old glory and make some new by being a coach.....not sure it will happen. If he does it because he sees himself as a coach and wants to put in those 60 hour weeks, then it might work. The difference between success and failure is your mindset. We don't know that and Favre himself may not even know.
Green Bay has a very good coach in MM, and right now he's also looking to capture some new glory. So let's see how it plays out.

Since '61's picture

I loved watching Favre as a player. He remains one of my top 5 QBs of all time. However, I don't see him being effective in any off the field role with the Packers. He's not going to be a QB coach. Besides, Rodgers doesn't need coaching anyway. I can't see him working in an administrative role either. Maybe, big maybe, he could be a QB scout for the Packers. He could be a part-time scout covering schools in Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and maybe Arkansas. Or he could take a look at high school QBs and put them on the Packers radar. But I really don't see that happening either. TT and MM have hitched their legacy to Rodgers. I don't see either of them wanting to bring back Favre, he's not their guy even if he was capable. It's just not necessary. I prefer to remember him as the great player that he was who gave us everything he had on the field. Thanks, Since '61

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

So, should we hire a narcissistic, self-absorbed, indolent, walking sexual harassment suit waiting to happen? Maybe hire for him an intern in a blue dress?

Wilson Maywick's picture

Every time Favre farts it's front page news in WI. This story is nothing. Never happen. Not worthy of further thought.

DD-393's picture

The offer was made. Brett turned it down.

chuckv's picture

the position best for Bret or the Packers is a great question but there is a place .. he brings the intangible greatness of the Packers .. the history , the turn around and a very very positive attitude ... i would look to administrative .... scouting , and a big role in public relations ... the man is special and has the personality to fill a room and an ego that is in check .. he knows what TEAM means ... and he was good to everyone in the organization ... it would be a loss for all not to find that place (hell he doesn't need the money) but he can contribute to the betterment of the Packers and with the good minds in Green Bay's offices i am sure something could work . and as for Rogers he is a bigger man than you give credit for he is a Hall of Fame person now ... he is the center of the action .. Favre is also a bigger person that what is represented by many here .. he is the greatest past quarter back ever and Rogers is currently the best quarterback in the NFL . let's be smart find a way to make that lead to even a better and more fun Packers future ..... oh and Ted Thompson is a bigger man as well he could find a great spot for Favre who would love to be there in any way he can contribute . and in PR who could be better .... and scouting too ...and then i am sure others have better ideas

Arthur Jackson's picture

Since Favre always said he wanted to be riding his tractor...http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KgaWLTJD4l8/VW9-V7oCMPI/AAAAAAAAC-c/KoRfhmAlGu...

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