Darnell Washington NFL Draft Prospect Profile and Scouting Report

Georgia Tight End Darnell Washington Scouting Report for the 2023 NFL Draft

Name: Darnell Washington

School: Georgia

Year: Junior

Position: Tight End

Measurables: 6’7”, 264 lbs. (Combine Measurements)

Combine: ARM: 34 3/8th”. HAND: 11”. VERTICAL: 31”. BROAD: 10’2”. BENCH: 21 Reps. 40-YD DASH: 4.64. 10-YD SPLIT: 1.57. 20-YD SHUTTLE: 4.08

Stats:

Courtesy of Sports-Reference.com

 

General Info:

One of the top recruits in the 2020 class, Darnell Washington starred at Football and Basketball at Desert Pines High School in Las Vegas, Nevada. As a composite five-star prospect, Washington was highly recruited by power schools across the country; all of them wanted a piece of 247’s 23rd-ranked player nationally, and the number 2 overall athlete. Washington eventually committed to Georgia in front of a national audience on ESPN2, picking the Bulldogs over teams like Alabama, Florida, and Oregon.

On stacked rosters like Georgia’s, it is rare for a true freshman to see significant playing time, but Washington started seven games in 2020, and played in all 10. Though he did not put up big numbers (seven catches, 166 yards over the course of the season) Washington got invaluable experience on a stellar team. However, Washington would not see a marked increase in his production during his sophomore season. He started one fewer game and missed the first four games of the season with a knee injury. Washington’s 2021 campaign saw him record 10 catches for 166 yards and the first score of his college career. It should be noted, however, that Washington split snaps with the freshman phenom Brock Bowers, with Washington playing on running downs and two TE sets. Additionally, while Washington did not produce big numbers as a receiver, he was recognized as one of the top blocking TEs in the country.

Washington’s 2022 season saw him cement himself as one of the top TEs in the country, along with teammate Brock Bowers. Both Georgia TEs were on the pre-season watchlist for the Mackey Award, and both put up impressive numbers during the season. Washington started 14 of the Bulldogs 15 games last season and put together a solid year as a receiver, managing 28 catches for 454 yards and a pair of scores, despite Bowers being the primary receiving TE. Washington also continued to excel as a blocker. 

At the annual NFL Draft Combine, Washington dominated, cementing himself as a high pick in this year’s draft. Despite weighing in at a monstrous 264 pounds (heaviest TE at the Combine), he had the sixth-fastest 40-yard dash and tied for the second-best 10-yard split. He had respectable measurements in the Vertical and Broad jumps, and an absolutely insane 4.08-second 20-yard shuttle, with only one TE even coming close to matching that time. Unsurprisingly, Washington also had a strong performance on the Bench.

 

Positional Skills:

Strengths

Do you like unicorns? What about unicorns that are 6’7”, 264 pounds? Washington is one of one as an athlete, coupling ridiculous size with more than acceptable speed, ridiculous agility, and monstrous strength. If you are a team that values FREAKS (wink), you’ll like Washington.

Not just a willing, but an outstanding blocker. It doesn’t matter whether it is run-blocking or pass-pro, Washington can hold his own. He handled linebackers and defensive linemen with ease at Georgia—he can effectively be an extra lineman for a team.

Had a nice 2022 season, despite playing second fiddle to Brock Bowers. Washington is one of those players whose stats don’t tell the full story—his less-than-amazing receiving stats were not because he can’t do it, but rather because that wasn’t what the team asked him to do (see: Dillon, A.J.). During his final season at Georgia, Washington showed a big catch radius, good hands, and as you might expect from a man his size, some real rumble after the catch.

A history of high school and college basketball players finding success as Tight Ends could continue with Washington, who can use his big frame to box out defenders and pull down contested catches.

Who (who?) is gonna stop him in the red zone? His massive frame should make him a menace in short-field situations.

Weaknesses

Naturally, Washington is going to struggle to win leverage battles, because it’s going to be difficult for him to be the low man and won’t be able to drive players back in every blocking situation.

Just average explosiveness, in sharp contrast to his other athletic abilities.

Struggles to separate when running routes, due to a lack of fluidity and suddenness.

Despite his dominance, there is room for Washington to refine his blocking game and develop his footwork and handwork.

 

Fit with the Packers:

Marcedes Lewis does not appear to be returning to Green Bay, leaving a 6’6”, 265 lb. hole at TE for Green Ba-hey, wait a second! That’s how big Darnell Washington is! And Marcedes Lewis was primarily a blocker for Green Bay… and that’s what Darnell Washington is best at! Washington joining the Green Bay Dead President’s Club seems like a match made in heaven, as Washington can instantly step in as a blocking TE for the Packers and play key snaps right off the bat. With that said, one would really like to see Washington paired with a veteran who can handle primary pass-catching duties, giving him a chance to develop his route-running and overall game without the pressure of being an every-down player, since TE is a notoriously hard position to pick-up. Overall, though, Washington would be a fantastic addition to a GB TE room that tends to embrace specialists (Josiah Deguara as a hybrid FB, Tyler Davis primarily as a special teamer, Lewis as a blocker, Tonyan as primarily a receiver in recent years), and would be well worth a look in the first round of the draft, and worth a celebration if they can get him in the second.

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stockholder's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:10 pm

We don't need a replacement for Mercedes Lewis.
*Struggles to separate when running routes,
due to a lack of fluidity and suddenness.*

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:21 pm

Doesn't matter when you are bigger than the person guarding you. Also don't forget that before he got old, Lewis was a good receiving TE.

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stockholder's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:58 pm

Washington was hurt.
You want Kittle not Lewis.

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:14 pm

Washington has a higher RAS than Kittle.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 25, 2023 at 07:39 pm

That doesn't fit his narrative. (A lot of that going around these days...)

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 07:11 pm

Admittedly, Lewis played on some pretty poor Jacksonville teams, but he only caught 40 or more passes 3 times in 17 seasons and more than 5 TDs once. Great blocker over the years, but he was the #28 pick, not in the top half of round 1.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:05 pm

He might be the 28th pick this year. Would love to see Gutey trade back. I totally expect Gutey to trade AR12 to the Jets for 13 and 43 on draft day. In my perfect world, he trades 13 back to 21. (Chargers)

Then trades 15 back to 28. (Bengals)

*One of those is hopefully, Darnell Washington...

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greengold's picture

March 25, 2023 at 10:34 pm

I don’t know… there’s a hype train in GB at TE because the NEED whistle is screaming.

TE Michael Mayer is currently ranked #28 overall on PFF’s Big Board. TE Darnell Washington is ranked #70 overall. If I recall correctly, Athlon, whom I trust more, had Mayer ranked much higher. Can’t recall Athlon’s rank on Washington.

Getting value should matter too. But, I can already see the TE run prior to our selections.

Trading down isn’t always easy, and even if you pull that off, there’s no guarantees. We might want to nab one early R1 just to get ours.

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:48 am

I'm no expert, but I don't think the TE run will be as large as it's being made out to be.

...and if teams wan't to jump on TEs ahead of 15, well, great! It means either QBs will be pushed back to 15 and trade down options might be more lucrative, or higher end prospects the Packers didn't expect to see will be on the board.

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 11:50 am

Nobody said they needed another Marcedes Lewis, but they do need a TE who's adept at blocking because it's a big chunk of the offense.

I'm reminded of the scene from "The Jerk" where the Steve Martin character gets rich and replaces the family shack they grew up in that was way too small with an exact replica 3 times bigger.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:29 pm

Big Dog Jr! If we draft him, with a healthy OL, Jones and Dillon will thrive! I always like TEs that can block well. Not to mention he will be sure to scare slot corners

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stockholder's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:51 pm

Take Mayor from ND first!

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BruceC1960's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:56 pm

Mayer isn’t Kittle either.

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:15 pm

Mayer is just a slightly faster Richard Rodgers.

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Coldworld's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:06 pm

Rodgers primary issue was a total lack of burst/explosiveness. Top end speed isn’t essential but short area is for a TE.

Kittle
Vertical Leap: 35.0 inches
Broad Jump: 132 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.59 seconds
Three Cone: N/A

Washington
Vertical Leap: 31.0 inches
Broad Jump: 122 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.08 seconds
Three Cone: N/A

Mayer
Vertical Leap: 32.5 inches
Broad Jump: 118 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: (N/A) 4.31 pro day
Three Cone: (N/A) 6.97 pro day

Richard Rodgers
Vertical Leap: 31.5 inches
Broad Jump: 115 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.47 seconds
Three Cone: 7.23 seconds

Clearly Kittle has more explosion but Washington has elite burst for his size. Mayer is more explosive and has a little more burst than Richard Rodgers, but the relatively small difference us not enough to convince me his play translates. Rodgers at least had elite hands. I would not take Mayer in the first. I think he’s going to be a good but not spectacular player due to the athletic limitations. Film hasn’t convinced me that they are misleading. Washington’s size and burst makes him an unusual prospect. He’s pretty much the only TE I think worth a first rounder, but mid 20s to me. Can he convert that athleticism into a larger offensive role?

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Swisch's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:59 pm

Well, if Washington is really so much better than any other tight end in this draft -- perhaps the only one with real potential to be elite in the NFL -- then perhaps the Packers reach a little and take him in the first round at #15.
It's worth considering whether to make such a move -- shocking for the Packers -- to go boldly for a superstar tight end even as Jordan Love is stepping into the starting role at quarterback.
Love would be growing with a corps of young receivers in Watson, Doubs, Toure, and Melton -- and then this magnificent talent in Washington.
Add in good receivers at running back with Jones and Dillon, possibly Goodson, and maybe, just maybe, we're beginning to build a corps of pass catchers approaching that of the Chiefs in quantity and quality.
It's exciting to think about that offense for the Packers next season, perhaps further shored up in the draft with a wide receiver and an offensive lineman or two.
Part of the fun would be seeing what LaFleur would do with such an array of talent, largely unproven but highly promising.

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greengold's picture

March 25, 2023 at 10:53 pm

Swisch, I feel much the same, but, I would hate to pass on Quentin if he drops to 13.

We’re in that weird place where online services fudge big boards for the draft sim industry engagement. I’ve seen it already, with nfldotcom of all services dropping Johnston into the Top of R2… which is complete and utter bullshit.

I want production with the pick that high. Say we pop WR Quentin Johnston at 13? LT Paris Johnson Jr? Both worthy of the pick. Then 15 on a pretty big TE overdraft? Granted, Washington can block like crazy as a Day 1 starter…

Yeesh.

I do not believe Gutekunst will do that.

Over decades studying drafts, Athlon is the one I will stick with 100%. Ourlads my #2 go-to. I find both to be consistently good and most representative of how many NFL teams draft.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 26, 2023 at 07:31 am

I would want to take Washington in the first. He is the best TE in the draft

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PhantomII's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:59 pm

I was just watching Mayer film. He looked faster and more athletic as a freshman. At the Combine he looked slow and stiff and out of control running the 40 at max speed....Which is something that would be every snap in the pros...at least off the LOS.....He's no baby Gronk. I'm not sure of his weight as a freshman, but he needs to get down to it to thrive in the NFL as a more fluid player for His body type.

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stockholder's picture

March 26, 2023 at 10:16 am

IT'S THE 3 CONE THAT has me convinced.
Either you want production or you don't.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 26, 2023 at 08:58 pm

I have Kraft, Mayer rated 1&2, then you can look at the Big Ten guys, Inline like Schoonmaker. Kraft has the same, or better measurable s than Darnell and he has three years of Film. Bellinger should have been the three pick last year. He was part of Daboll's offense right away. Production over projection. My priorities are still the OT and/or Edge guy @ the one pick. Will he be able to accrue more two picks? They have to Load Up on picks for '23. I prefer Cheddar to Swiss cheese.

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:43 pm

Washington's blocking makes him a higher floor guy. He'd slot right into Lewis' 40% of snaps right off the bat....but I wouldn't use #15 on a TE, especially one who profiles as mostly as a blocker.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 26, 2023 at 07:27 am

I would if we are sure we want to get him. My guess is the Lions, Bucs, or even commanders will get him a in the first if he’s still available

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4thand10's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:13 pm

This is like Marcedes Lewis only better. Why better?. Because hes younger. Did anyone here follow Marcedes before he was a packer? He was one of the best TEs in the NFL in terms of blocking and catching . Go to you tube and look at his highlights from 2016-2017. Hurdling dudes, high pointing balls, legit red zone threat AND can block. He lost speed as a receiver threat when he arrived at GB. Guys like Kelce and Kittle catch but it has to be schemed and neither could ever block like Marcedes in their wildest dreams. This is a younger faster Lewis. I watched alot of Jacksonville games, including that Pats game with the Brady officials. The refs handed the Pats that 2017 game. The Jags had em the whole game. I can only hope Washington turns into that type of player and GB picks him. I watched the combine and fan fav Meyers lost his footing on a relatively simple football drill. Wish him the best. All I know is as a fan I would love to see a difference maker at the TE position. Its been too long.

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Swisch's picture

March 25, 2023 at 09:19 pm

Maybe draft Washington at #15 in part so that our defensive backs, even our linebackers, don't have to tackle this guy in the open field ;-).

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 25, 2023 at 11:03 pm

Excellent thinking and great point!

They would get experience guarding a great TE too. (Thankfully, they won't have to tackle him in practice!)

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:51 am

This sounds like the Brewers trading with the White Sox for a washed up Jerry Reuss in the mid-80s (when they were bad again) because they couldn't stand getting shown up by a washed up junkballer.

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4thand10's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:15 pm

And LBs @265

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:36 pm

Here's the latest mock draft, with a prediction of the Rodgers trade:

Rodgers trade:
Jets get: QB Aaron Rodgers
Packers get: 42nd overall pick, 43rd overall pick, 2024 conditional 3rd-round pick,* 2024 5th-round pick, TE Jeremy Ruckert

Mock Draft:
15: Traded to Buccaneers for picks 19 and 82
19: TE Darnell Washington
42: WR Cedric Tillman, Tennessee
43: DT Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin
45: S Sydney Brown, Illinois
52: OLB Derick Hall, Auburn
78: Traded with pick 82 to Seahawks for pick 52
116: WR Jonathan Mingo, Mississippi
149: OL Alex Forsyth, Oregon
170: QB Clayton Tune, Houston
232: OG Mason Brooks, Mississippi
235: CB Charles Woods, West Virginia
242: TE Blake Whiteheart, Wake Forest
256: S John Torchio, Wisconsin

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stockholder's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:41 pm

I'd Take Mayor before Washington.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:54 pm

I would also be happy with Mayer. He could be nicknamed "The Mayer of Titletown"

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:16 pm

I'd take a box of chocolates over Mayer.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:36 pm

But that tells us more about you than it does about Mayer or Washington...

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:40 pm

If I were targeting Washington in the draft, I wouldn't want Ruckert in trade.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 26, 2023 at 07:33 am

Their skill sets are different. Ruckert is more of a receiver, and Washington is more of a blocker. They can each do some of the other, though. If Washington takes over Rucker could be a no. 2 TE. Our room is so barren we need both

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 10:03 am

I think we'll disagree on Ruckert--I think Ruckert is more Y than F (he was never a productive college pass-catcher), and profiles into the Lewis role more than the Tonyan role, which means they (Ruckert and Washington) would battle each other for snaps.

Maybe that's the issue: we need to see creative use of TEs in GB rather than pre-established player fits.

In general, though, I'm mostly against players in return for 12.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:57 am

Dobber…..is there anything I could possibly say so that people would understand that in Green Bay, the TE is an offense lineman? We only throw it to the TE less than six times a game, and most of those were to Tonyan.

Should we run less? Throw it to Watson and Doubs less? Throw it to Jones less? Because these visions of a pass catching demon at TE would mean fewer opportunities for others.

The Packers TE blocks. He blocks on runs. He blocks on WR screens. He blocks on jet sweeps. He blocks when we max protect. He blocks on dump offs to the Back. Sometimes , we put two TEs on the field and they both block. And a couple of times a game, to keep the defense honest, we throw them a short pass.

50% of our offense is to the backs.
40% is to our WRs
10% is the TE.

I’ll be surprised if we draft any of the top TEs, and we’ll probably draft a guy like Schoonmaker or Kunst.

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 10:06 am

Schoonmaker makes a lot of Schoon...I mean, sense. The cost/return fits. They need the in-line guy right now way more than they need the move guy.

Move TEs can be schemed and made. In-line guys can be grown. I think this offense benefits from good combo TEs, and less on specialists.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 25, 2023 at 07:29 pm

This is pretty good, with the exception of no offensive linemen until later in Day 3. Again, I'm reminding you and everybody else:

We have six starters, including Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Nijman, Runyan, Myers, and Tom. But it's a long season and these guys get hurt and you need more than six legitimate OL.

Right now, our next guy is Newman, and then Hanson, followed by Rhyan, Walker and Caleb Jones. That's who we're going to put on the field when people get injured.

IMO, the Packers really need to get a legit player, which would give us 7. Then, if any of the guys from last year have improved at all, it'll give us 8 and that just might be enough if we're lucky.

Nothing will derail a season faster than an offensive line that can't get the job done. Nothing makes football easier than being able to push people out of the way.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 26, 2023 at 07:29 am

Maybe Caleb Jones develops? Anyways, Forsyth is a guy I like a lot. He is a high-upside swing IOL at Oregon who has lots of experience.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:05 pm

I'm not a big fan of maybe when it comes to the offensive line, because if people don't get blocked, you're not going to score many points. And your QB might get killed if somebody like Donald ragdolls the maybe guy and crushes the QB.

Right now I see six. We get to dress nine. The best, most experienced, guy that we have after the top six is Newman.

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greengold's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:10 pm

There’s no way I pass on a Top LT if they’re trading DBak. We should take two OTs in this draft. Even if they bring Yosh back.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2023 at 12:06 am

It was in Full View on the right flank, last season.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 25, 2023 at 09:47 pm

Traded Aaron Rodgers to the Jets for 13 and 43 - No sweat at all.

Traded our 13 from the Jets to Chargers for 21 and 54.

Traded our 15 to the Bengals for 28, 60, and 4th round pick in '24.

21: OLBer Myles Murphy Clemson
28: TE Darnell Washington Georgia
42: WR Jalin Hyatt Tennessee
45: DT Keeanu Benton Wisconsin
54: WR Cedric Tillman Tennessee
60: S Sydney Brown Illinois
78: S Jordan Battle Alabama
116: TE Zack Kuntz Old Dominion
149: OT Luke Haggard Indiana
170: OT Connor Galvin Baylor
232: LB Dee Winters TCU
235: OLBer Tavius Robinson Mississippi
242: FB Hunter Luepke North Dakota State
256: RB Evan Hull Northwestern

I don't know why Gutey finds this shit so difficult! It's easy! Lol

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Turophile's picture

March 26, 2023 at 05:58 am

Sorry PackyCheese500, but the compensation you envisage for Rodgers is very unrealistic - very. Even BirdDogUni's trade is a little optimistic, I believe.

I think the best we get is one of the the Jets 2nd's this year and a conditional 2nd or 1st next year, depending on how well Rodgers does in 2023 and whether he plays a second year for the Jets (and remember if the Jets do well in 2023 their picks will be lower in the 2024 draft).

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 26, 2023 at 07:30 am

Really? I think two seconds this year plus a little more is a fair deal, since the Jets keep their first. That is what I have heard from the trade talk reports so far

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:07 pm

They're trading his Contract.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:33 pm

Well, T - I have an optimistic view of what is about to take place.

We both know Woody Johnson is all in on AR12. Which means their alternatives are slim and none. Since that is the case, Gutey is going to get more than we think and more than the Jets want to give, but they don't have another choice.

I did come up with a scenario to get at minimum a 1st and 2nd round pick, but then we and the Jets both look like idiots.

Everyone is assuming Gutey trades AR12 to the Jets, but what if he trades him to the Titans for 11 overall and 41? Gutey gets his 1st and 2nd round picks, then the Titans hold the Jets feet to the fire for 13, 42, 43, and a 1st next year... What are the Jets going to do? They'll either pay the price to the Packers or the Titans, or to whoever ends up with AR12, or they won't get AR12.

The Titans don't have to keep AR, but they don't have to trade him either. Both the Packers and Jets look a bit foolish, but at least Gutey got a 1st and 2nd round pick. So, it just depends on how stubborn the Jets want to be. They can pay now or pay later.

Right now, the Jets are just putting off the inevitable.

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splitpea1's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:45 pm

A natural talent like this is tough to pass on; you can't teach what Big 0 has. He's an ideal security blanket for Love in the middle of the field and should be quite useful in the red zone.... Athletic enough to hurdle defenders and keep on going, and obviously powerful enough to waste DBs. The only repeated knock on him is his inability to separate, but given his tremendous talent in other areas and good hands, I think most coaches could live with that.

Taking him at #15 might be a bit high, but this is a player many GMs could easily fall in love with. If we could get him in a trade-down maneuver, that would be ideal. I don't think he lasts far past the beginning of the second round.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 25, 2023 at 03:55 pm

I don't think he makes it out of the first.

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greengold's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:00 pm

I agree, splitpea1.

He is super dynamic. If we’re running the widely broadcast “Grand Illusion of Complexity,” of yesteryear, we’re gonna want the best in-line blocking TE who can also outlet & 1D. Run blocking & pass blocking alike will be very important to the success with a new QB like Love full-time QB1.

The value would definitely be better in a trade down, yet, no guarantees he’ll be there then, with a huge TE drop off after R1 talents go off board.

We want and need a starting quality blocking TE if we’re rushing more. Good luck finding better. There aren’t many blocking TEs in this draft.

Take him at 15 if we want a great TE in 2023.

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PackyCheese500's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:06 pm

Agreed!

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splitpea1's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:12 pm

Mayer can definitely block, but Washington has the big athletic upside as well. I'd be happy with either one, depending on availability and where the selection is. Our offense needs all the run blocking help it can get.

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:47 pm

"we’re gonna want the best in-line blocking TE who can also outlet & 1D."

Pay for the job you need done. You can get guys who do this much later and get more mileage out of your draft capital.

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greengold's picture

March 26, 2023 at 04:58 am

True.
TE Luke Schoonmaker - Michigan
6-5 251

He’s got a lot of the goods, and no hype.
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Might as well add here that this guy’s already on the team:

TE Austin Allen - Nebraska
6-8 253 33 5/8” arms 4.83 34” vertical 7.0 3-cone

Tall yet well rounded TE who flashes solid downfield blocking skills. Catches well in traffic and terrific on jump balls. Team Captain. Decent drive power as down blocker. Quick in routes, great wingspan to expand target. Strong hands. Solid just about everywhere. Short, intermediate, deep throws.

Strong athletic frame with room to grow. Consistent, clean catcher. Competitive.

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:58 am

Schoonmaker is the guy I think actually ends up in GB (maybe in round 2), and the Packers use 15 on an OL/DB/OLB.

I also expect there to be a 'budget' TE signing yet to mitigate depth issues.

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greengold's picture

March 26, 2023 at 10:58 am

Yeah. Roster cuts will probably be our best value adds. All this trade stuff has me thinking maybe Gutekunst looks for another with a different team to shore up any of his other roster weaknesses after June 2nd, should our cap free up a bit.

That as a strategy might allow him more freedom to take great players at other positions of lesser need.

Hilarious, but, I’ve had visions of him taking a CB at 15… Witherspoon, should he drop. Gonzales…!

I know you could easily see that too! Lolz

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4thand10's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:21 pm

IDK splitpea didnt Hockenson get picked in the 1st and Gissiekie in the 1st? I could be mistaken

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PackEyedOptimist's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:03 pm

Darnell Washington remains my top TE for the Packers, though Mayer has edged ahead of Kincaid for 2 (and 3). I'm still not a Musgrave fan, unless you're picking him to play big slot WR.

Washington's insane CB-like shuttle remains a tipping point for me. Now, if his teammate Brock Bowers was in this draft, HE'D be my #1. It's not shocking that Washington didn't get a lot of opportunities on that stacked offense.

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:21 pm

For me Washington is #1, LaPorta is #2, and Zack Kuntz is #3. I honestly think that Gute should draft 3 TEs like he drafted 3 WRs in 2018. Increases the odds of hitting on one and all 3 are highly athletic. Odds are you would need to draft them in R1, R3, and R4/5.

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:49 pm

If the Packers were a TE away from being a complete team, I'd agree, but the Packers will likely keep 4 TEs at cutdowns and two will be primarily STs players. That's a heckuva lot of draft capital to throw at those spots.

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 07:35 pm

The Packers need to draft at least 2 this year. Odds are you won't see another TE class like this for a while so taking 3 when you have 10, maybe more depending on the Rodgers trade, isn't the worst idea.

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PatrickGB's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:15 pm

I have been reading comments about Washington. They are all over the place. Some love him and think he is the best and some rank him behind two or three other TE’s. I guess most of us like the player. It’s just a matter of where he fits in the draft order. IF we draft him, my guess is that’s the end of the Lewis era.

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greengold's picture

March 25, 2023 at 04:55 pm

There’s the different types. A case could be made for the Packers to take the two best off the board straight away. 13 & 15.

Case closed.

Figure, there are 5-6 R1 rated TEs in this class. They won’t last. Every team knows we need TE, and like WR 2 and 3 drafts ago, teams went out of their way to take our need position ahead of our picks R1 & R2.

Both players picked would merit the selections, if it’s between Mayer, Washington & Kincaid. Phenomenal players of great need.

Waiting? Might as well be ready to wait out that next wave projected to hit in R4.

So many needs we cannot fill in R1. However, snapping both Washington & Kincaid clean off the board, addressing all other needs later means we can fill TE “and…” - because other need positions extend further out into R2-R4, where you can actually find legit starting Safeties (by end R2), OTs, EDGE…

Whereas, if we don’t take at least 1 in R1, there is no “TE and.”

Not instant starters.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:42 pm

As soon as I saw your response I was going to say a one-two punch with Kincaid and Washington I'd be totally fine with our first two picks. Love Washington and he would be a fantastic pick-up as he would start day 1. The thing with Kincaid is should you draft him it takes a lot of pressure off in terms of trying to get that top notch WR allowing you to pick-up a WR in rounds 2 or rounds 3. I'd be all for Kincaid & Washington.

Packy, pretty funny....you dropping from #15 in round 1 to #19 to draft Kincaid and picking up a pick later is what I do in everyone of my mock drafts.

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:52 pm

"A case could be made for the Packers to take the two best off the board straight away. 13 & 15."

If Gutey did that, I'd be joining Stockholder on the "what the hell is wrong with you, Gute?" trip.

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Coldworld's picture

March 25, 2023 at 11:57 pm

Almost worth the price to see that.

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dobber's picture

March 26, 2023 at 11:53 am

I've agreed with stockholder a couple times today...

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greengold's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:03 pm

Lol. Me too!!!

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:09 pm

While I have no doubt that some players GB might be interested in will be off the board before GB’s turn, I doubt that teams will deliberately take players at the Packers’ need positions before their turn comes up. I mean, it’s not like we’re talking about snagging a corner before the Vikes get to pick.

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:22 pm

If you were to read 10 scouts feelings about any player you would get 10 different opinions.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 25, 2023 at 05:46 pm

I have an NFC North scout with more than 20-years experience NFL scouting coming over to my house next weekend with his wife. Maybe I can glean a little inside information while he is over? Will definitely run some players by him for his thoughts. LOL!

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greengold's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:42 pm

That should be really fun.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 25, 2023 at 09:40 pm

Yes, it should be but he won't share much nor would I ask him much at least directly. Like to pick his mind a little though!

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dobber's picture

March 25, 2023 at 06:51 pm

"I have an NFC North scout with more than 20-years experience NFL scouting coming over to my house next weekend with his wife."

Wow...what are you making for dinner?

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PhantomII's picture

March 25, 2023 at 07:10 pm

It doesn't matter...whatever you make, they would have preferred something else.LOL

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greengold's picture

March 25, 2023 at 07:39 pm

Stellar response.

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TKWorldWide's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:48 pm

How about some truth serum?

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Lootstone's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:04 am

Gl

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vin0770's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:23 pm

I didn’t no nothing about the TE class and just for giggles started watching the combine. Mayer was noticeably the most fluid at catching the ball, right size has proven it in big games, a no brainer. Then he runs a 4.87 40 time 🤮

Washington jumped off the screen with his size and strength. That stupid move the sled 10 yards drill….guy’s trying like hell to get low and move it, grunting and groaning and some really struggling with it. Then Washington gets up and there’s no way he’s going to get low enough….and he flicks that sled 10 yards without a sound. A Mountain Man natural strength 😲

I want this beast on our side! Herman Munster strong!

Throw it in his zip code and let him go get it.

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Tedlyflyfisher's picture

March 25, 2023 at 08:54 pm

Dead presidents club. Nice touch, Tristan! LOL.

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Lootstone's picture

March 25, 2023 at 09:17 pm

BIJAN OR BUST (because my WR is cheap):

I've mentioned a lot about Bijan, but I think it's self explanatory to make defenses stretch. This is the McCaffrey to Samuel approach, and from here you can give Dillon a greater FB/blocking role in schemes, not have to rely on the strength of your Oline as much, and not have to go as heavy into receivers during the draft.

BIjan is the reason I don't have to sell the farm for a TE (which is a power move for this draft - not that I don't prioritize one) and I'm not as worried about a WR getting snatched from me.

If you stretch the defense you don't have to spend as much of your man power blocking everyone because more of the defense will miss. Not saying blocking isn't fundamental, I'm just pointing out why we keep getting out schemed by SF, for example. SF will gas you out by the end of games - we've all seen this.

15 - Bijan!:
Round 2 in order:
42: Drew Sanders / Jack Campbell / Darnell Washington / Jalin Hyatt / BJ Ojulari / Dawand Jones / Will McDonald / If all are taken trade out for more picks again.

43: If all are taken trade out

45: Musgrave (if needed - can still block and catch if need be) / If all are taken, trade for late 2nd+3rd, or two early 3rds (ex. 65,73)

Round 3:
At this point it becomes who has grabbed what, and who comes before you in your picks, so no one you're adding gets snagged.

65: Nick Herbig / Keion White / Michael Wilson

73: Michael Wilson (need to grab earlier since round 3 will make this guy a target - only his injuries push him back this far) / Nathaniel Dell

78: Nathaniel Dell / Jordan Battle / A high ranking player that has slipped through the cracks

Round 4-7 should be picks that fill the areas missed where you need to stack the deck and hope someone can be developed/shines in practice or preseason.

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15 - Didn't get Bijan:
I trade out of the first round once or twice depending on my options as follows. But that's all that changes. What I usually do here is consider two TE picks if they are still on the board.

Late 1st: Michael Mayer / Darnell Washington if Kincaid is taken, or if you want more blocking / trade out 1 more time

Early 2nd: Darnell Washington (because Kincaid is probably picked and we already grabbed Mayer; I love grabbing Darnell here because this avoids all other teams from getting 2 of the top 3 TE in the draft that I think are the best overall. This is the only scenario I think that is as good as having Bijan.

42 and beyond: see *above list

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Best Case Scenario (reasonable): Trade pick 15&45 for 17&32 assuming PIT and WAS don't take Bijan.

17: Bijan (this is the absolute lowest Bijan will go because I guarantee DET will grab him at 18 if he's available.
(Early 2nd) 32: Michael Mayer / or *above list

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DoubleJ's picture

March 25, 2023 at 11:38 pm

Taking a RB in R1 is not a good idea. Burnout rate is very high and positional value is low. Even if he ends up being a HOF RB it won't help much, especially since the Packers backfield is already top 5 in the NFL.

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Lootstone's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:00 am

I know that's been the case in prior years, but I don't think that currently accurate - is it? Top 5 according to who? Jones maybe is top 10, but Dillon isn't anywhere near top 10 atm.

Also, I'm trying to point out the unique trait of what makes SF deadly. It's the defenses read on the backfield. They have to assess that each time. No offense to SF, but their WRs aren't that great. So why do they keep winning once McCaffrey was onboard? Yes, Kittle (elite TE). But what changed after McCaffrey? Defenses were struggling to understand the reads.

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4thand10's picture

March 29, 2023 at 05:51 pm

SF doesn’t out scheme anyone, they out muscle both on the D line and the O. It’s a very QB friendly system, they run a lot and they stop the run. QBs don’t have time to throw, and when they do, mistakes are made. If an attempt is made to run a spread offense on em…they just man up and bank on the D getting to the QB. Dillon and Henry are the only RBs that I have seen that slow down that rush…and even then they’re only getting 2-3 yards an attempt. Playing them again I’d almost say use 3 TEs or go with a 6th OL as an “ eligible receiver “ then get lucky on reverses or screens.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 25, 2023 at 11:04 pm

BirdDog I love your trade back ideas. Dairyland Express has an article on this very topic-Trading Back #15 to gain more picks in the first 3 rounds so we can fill all 5 needs we have. In order of need: TE, S, E, WR, D-line. We could fill all those holes in this draft if we can find trade partners who have fallen in love with prospects they got to have. Someone always wants to trade up or back into the 1st round.

Picking one of the top 4 TE late in the 1st round or very early 2nd would be a better value than wasting #15 on one player when we could have 3 really good players (at positions of need, not best player available who won't play) by trading back, maybe twice.

I too was disappointed in Mayers combine performance and thought I wouldn't pick him over others. Go back and watch his film. He catches everything within 10 feet and he isn't playing against teams in some lower level conference. I don't like Notre Dame but they play a tough schedule and Mayer would be a playmaker for Green Bay. Washington, Mayer, and Kraft all block well but they all catch everything too. Late 1st, early 2nd there will at least 3 or 4 of the top 5 TEs still available. We take one with our first pick and 1 later, There are so many talented TEs that will be available in rounds 4,5,6,7 that if we have the picks we can load up.

Kuntz ,Schoonmaker,Whyle,Averett,Sims,Strange,Mallory,Latu,Durham,Cameron Mcdonald,Davis Allen. So many later ones to choose from. Any of these that don't get drafted Green Bay should bring in as UDFAs.

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Lootstone's picture

March 25, 2023 at 11:52 pm

I'd say watch the gauntlet at the combine. Mayer has stronger hands on the run under pressure. This is verified if you watch his games, which I think is why he has a slightly better score. His top end speed is not so great, but also not required because plays are usually over at that point (especially for a TE). He is still on par explosive for the first 10 yards. But once he gets up to speed, he doesn't really have that extra gear lol. But, arguable lower center of gravity being beneficial here.

I think Washington would beat Mayer in downfield center catches with an accurate up top throw just based on that height and vert. Possibly better for blocking but that is hard to tell entirely. Mayer made some incredible catches in games and has a lot more tape so again overall it's neck and neck. I'd be happy with either one.

Mayer to me would just be slightly more reliable for what I want a TE to do - and much better at route running in red zone territory. I want chunk plays and red zone. I'd rather have my WR go for the contested jump ball on the outside of the field rather than risking a tipped ball on the inside. To me TE is a continued momentum play slot.

I'd be shocked if Darnell went first because he also has had a foot injury and I just think Mayer is more durable based on build. It's a tough call for probably one of the toughest positions though, so at the end of the day, what do I know.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 25, 2023 at 11:55 pm

I don't think we'll get the Jets 13. They've made it pretty clear they don't want to part with it, so it's probably a key part of their plan.....they've got a clear target at 13. We can probably get 42 and 43, which has the equivalent value of 17, and that's the best we can hope to get this year, IMO.

If we add 42 and 43 to our own 15, 45, and 78, we're in a position to have a great draft. But I don't think we'll be taking Washington at 15, and I think he'll be gone by 45, so we probably should be looking at guys like Schoonmaker and Kunst and Latu, like golfpacker mentioned.

A Starting safety. A starting OT. An OLB. A WR. A TE. Not necessarily in that order, but I'd be looking at Branch, Jones, Adebawore, Tillman, and Kunst, unless somebody better fell to me. If we traded down from 15, we could probably get the Cardinals #34, #66, and #96. It would cost us our only shot at Branch, but it would give us a couple of more bites of the apple, so to speak.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 26, 2023 at 03:37 am

There were 61 comments when I logged in. My over/under for # of comments by BDU was 9. There were only 5, so I was way off!

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:12 am

"Shots fired..."

*Sorry to disappoint you Jim... ; P

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 27, 2023 at 01:44 am

I was just trying to encourage you!

I gather there is a lot of consensus on Washington. The only disagreement isn't whether he is a very fine prospect but whether he is a round one, late round one, or a round two guy, and/or whether GB has bigger fish to fry at other positions, along with positional value concerns.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:35 am

This is really exciting isn't it? The TE position group is so strong that Green Bay could change a position group from a weakness to a big time strength in one offseason. And it will impact all other phases of the game for us.
It will really impact Jordan Loves performance this year. It also takes pressure off the WR group which with another couple additions can become another position group overhauled in 2 years. And also helps Love's development. I am not saying we are even going to the playoffs this year, but we could get better again in a hurry barring injuries. Draft a couple safeties and a FA later and that group is almost a strength too.

I think if Georgia had thrown to Washington more last year and he catches 50 passes instead of 24, draft evaluators would be calling him the best TE prospect in 10-15 years because he blocks so well too. Even so I think he will be the first TE off the board in the first round. #15 is too rich for him or a safety or edge rusher. This draft is a huge opportunity for Green Bay and we shouldn't get greedy and take one starter @ 15 who maybe works or doesn't pan out. Trading back still gets us one of the best TEs and 2 other "bites of the apple" as Leatherhead says to fill 2 other big needs.

I am fine with Mayer. Kinkaid, as someone said is almost like picking a big WR who also plays TE and takes the pressure off picking WR early since so many will be available in 3,4,5 rounds. Musgrave will be a very good TE. He also has been underused at Oregon State. He blocks good too. As does Kraft and he has a big catch radius. All of these guys hand catch most of the time, not much catching with the body. Kuntz is almost in this first group too.

Someone said we don't need Jeremy Ruckert if we get Washington. I say why the hell not? It's looking more and more like we don't get # 13 from the Jets. I think we would be better off to get their 2 second round picks and 2 or 3 players at positions of need this year and a 2nd and 4th next year. The 2nds together will cost less than we would have to pay a player @ #13. Pretty crucial with having limited $$$. letting Ruckert go is easy for the Jets because he is just depth to them. The same with Denzel Mims, they don't need him either and with good coaching and a QB that actually throws to him, he could easily be at the least our WR. The guy is still 6'3 215 lbs and runs 4.3. Untapped greatness. Since it seems like three 2nd round picks will be the ceiling, getting the players would be the bonus in this for us. Ashtyn Davis should be in the deal too. We get 3 good players to fill the holes along with the picks. I would be satisfied with this package and especially to get this trade done before it somehow blows up in our faces.

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golfpacker1's picture

March 26, 2023 at 09:46 am

I am not keen on Michael Wilson. He was hurt all the time in college and stepping up in level of competition will finish his career. He is a guy you gamble a later pick on only. With so many really good, healthy, WRs that will still be around in mid rounds I sure wouldn't waste a 3rd, 4th, or 5th round pick on him. Pass. Better to take Ford-Wheaton, Mingo, Hutchinson, Iosivas, Landers, Mims, Palmer, Boutte, Perry, Scott, etc etc. All better choices.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:45 pm

I like Higgins quite a bit too. Reminds me of Anquan Boldin, only bigger and faster.

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BirdDogUni's picture

March 26, 2023 at 12:45 pm

Opps...

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golfpacker1's picture

March 26, 2023 at 04:30 pm

Bird I also like Higgans but I think he wont last past middle of 2nd. As far as Wilson goes 1 or 2 "injuries' is one thing but it seems he missed major parts of seasons at Stanford. Availability is the key. Teams are going to score some good WR in later rounds.

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