Before Rodgers went down to injury last year he has shown confidence in Allison. I guess it all depends on how well and fast the rookie wide receivers learn the system and gain the trust of Rodgers. Graham will certainly be a factor in the offense this year. That's what training camp and preseason are for. It is an exciting time for both sides of the ball this year. Allison could very well be a break out player this year. He certainly has the talent and trust of Rodgers to have a big year. And the talented rookies will certainly be in the mix to make a name for themselves. All the coaching changes, FA signings, great draft picks, and returning veterans will make for a very competitive training camp and preseason. Let the fun begin!! I am looking forward to it. Go! Pack! Go!

Consistency is the key. Cobb is consistent, but is injury prone. Can Allison step it up and stay on the field. The competition is young and seems talented. I think Allison will pull through, but not sure if Clark can make the 53. I can say the same about Yancey. What goes on where the typical fan can’t see will be the final decision and we can only scratch our heads after that. It seems there’s always a player we pull for.

The #2 outside wr starter is an open competition between Allison and basically 3 unknowns . I don't see much out of Davis, maybe Yancey or Clark? So this, obviously, is a unsettling situation. Let's hope for the best.

On a separate note, Connor Barwin signed with the Giants for cheap - a two-year deal worth up to $5 million. Sounds like 2-2.5m a year. He only had 5 sacks in 14 games last year, which isn't eye popping stats, but that would have been a cheap insurance policy to help offset injuries to CM3 or Perry.

Go Gilbert, Go Biegel !

I'm actually one of those that think the overhaul to the playbook was actually pretty substantial so the Packers won't be using 3 WR as often as before.

Now I understand McCarthy isn't going to completely get away from the roots of his offense that made him a "Highly Successful Head Coach", but I also think the Packers will start the 2018 season with 3 TE who can catch the football and use more 2 and 3 TE sets. IMO the possibilities with 2 and 3 TE's Adams, Cobb, Montgomery, Williams, and Jones when he comes back week 3 could be endless.

Allison has his place in this offense. The biggest reason why is depth right now. Rodgers trusts him and he knows the offense better than any of the rookies no matter how many changes have been made. I also probably like Allison more than most because he DOES work well with Rodgers when he starts scrambling buying time. Until one of the rookies gains the trust of Rodgers Allison is our #3.

I talked to to a huge man, yesterday, who tried out for 7 NFL teams. He said the speed of everyone was insane. The hits brutal, thick play books that you have to memorize all the time and nonstop film study. He called himself one of the “little “ guys at about 6’ 2” and 400 lbs. He said a DB who weighed 180 lbs knocked him out cold. I wish I could’ve talked with him more. He decided to stop after 7 teams and went to work. Hem must’ve made out ok judging by the huge RV he was driving. He actually did say the Packers were one of the teams.

Allison will "win" the WR3 spot, by default, but J'Mon Moore will unseat him by midseason.

I hope Allison is a depth guy, that we truly use more 2 TE sets. I have nothing against Allison, but we need one of the kids to both gain Rodgers trust and demonstrate some explosiveness and the ability to separate. I don't think Allison has either of those qualities when it is time to play against elite defenses. I also really believe Mercedes Lewis could be a piece that really does a number on defenses. I think we are talking about a guy that can flatten people at the point of attack and still be a safety valve for Rodgers. I think one of the new kids will demonstrate the smarts and explosiveness to be a factor as the season wears on, and I think Davis and Yancey are as good as gone(barring the usual annual rash of injuries). I can see a scenario where we start the season in a lot of 2 TE sets and eventually one of the kids forces his way on the field.

The packers will have a problem if they stay with Allison. 1. 4.67 is not a #3 WR. Heck he couldn't even fill in; if Adams or Cobb go down. 2. If Cobb goes next year, where is the development? 3. We now have Graham. A Te that runs faster than a WR? Graham could pick up the slack, but can't be a #3 WR. 4. I see them keeping Davis before Allison. But Moore will beat them both out before mid season. So why keep Allison? The packers didn't think of chemistry when they let James Jones go. Even Nelson or Driver. It's time to FIX the WR position. The packers need separation. They need depth. If the rookies can't do it sign someone else.

The question is Adams, Cobb, and who takes that #3 WR spot? The reality of the situation is Adams, Graham, Cobb, and who is #4? Does your #4 WR really make a difference? I think injuries will cut into that depth, so my pick would be Yancey. The 2nd year leap will make a difference between his skills and Allison.

As far as the #3 WR role in this offense, I am not sure how important it will be. Outside of injury to the top 2 guys...
With 3 threats at TE, with 3 threats at RB and 1 of them being a former WR, I don't know how vital the #3 WR will be to the offense this year.
I wouldn't be surprised if the #3 spot will be split up between players based on situations. I think its going to be a matchup type of thing.

I expect to see a lot more 2 TE sets. I wouldn't be surprised if our primary personnel grouping is 2 WR, 2 TE and 1 RB.
The versatility and abilities of Graham and Lewis provide us a lot of options on offense.

I do think Allison will be the #3. I am not sure how much he will be used though. I don't think we can expect to much out of the trio of rookies at least early. And Clark will still be raw and we don't know how much Yancey improved. Davis could push him for the #3 spot but there is a chance he doesn't even make the 53.

I do think they need Allison to be the #3, but they won't need to rely on him like they would have had to in the past.

From what I can see, MM has asked BG for size and length, with athleticism, at the WR position that all play above the rim, to create advantageous matchups. The Packers are the tallest, longest WR group in the league now, particularly factoring in Jimmy Graham at 6'7." These rookie WRs are young and inexperienced but their speed and frames still create problems say from the slot against a 5'10" corner. There is more "room for error" with these guys when they have half a foot on the guy covering them and Rodgers "trust" in them should not be as big of an issue. I see all 3 playing at some point in certain situations depending a matchups.
Potentially 5 or 6 pass catchers all over 6'3" is a nighmare for d coordnaitors, regardless of their experience.

Here's the biggest mistake people make with Allison: They assume there's only one factor in play--that if he's a better receiver than the other 5 RIGHT NOW, then that's enough.

But here's reality: We must look at the total package, not just one factor.

Other factors are:

1. What does the player offer on special teams, where speed is key?

2. What potential is offered by a player's athleticism versus others on the roster? What's his ceiling?

3. How many years is the player under a cheap contract?

4. Do we want other teams developing our players with higher potential?

5. What has low athleticism done to our receiving group in recent years?

Since Allison offers nothing on special teams, has the lowest ceiling going forward, is in his final year, will cost us a better young talent to keep him, and typifies the very kind of receivers hampering our passing game...

...then he needs to GREATLY outplay all 5 of the options to be worth keeping.

We can't just look at one factor, but I have no doubt McCarthy will do just that. He'll override Gute--who has no influence--and keep the guy who makes him feel a bit safer in 2018.

Allison will be kept, and a better talent will be lost. Bank on it.

We all have high hopes for the rookies, but those hopes shuld be tempered this early in the year. A year ago the Packers drafted Malachi Dupre from LSU in the 7th round. He was supposedly the steal of the draft, was touted as a potential #1 draft choice after his junior year, and had size and speed. He did absolutely nothing in camp and was an easy cut. I think we need to see the Packer's three rookie WRs in camp for awhile before we decide whether they are keepers or not.

I hope at least two of the three are impressive and make the cut, but I think Allison makes the team over one of the three rookies. I have no idea which rookie doesn't make it, but odds are one won't and Allison is a veteran and has Roger's trust.

Sorry, "should", not "shuld". Need to do a better job of proof reading!

i see Gmo as the #3 WR. he doesn't have great speed but he catches the ball and gets open. he was great on 3rd downs when he got the opportunity. he knows the playbook and that's a big advantage over the rooks.
i also wouldn't overlook Clark or Yancey. they could make that second year leap and make it hard to cut them. i could even see the Packers keeping 7 WR. its going to be an interesting battle to see who steps up and takes advantage of their reps!

I like Geronimo alot, but judging by the draft picks they are clearly after speed. Geronimo happens to be....not fast. This is gonna be fun to watch .

The only thing that matters is fielding the best 53 man roster to win in 2018. If one of our rookies or Yancey, or Davis or someone else is better than Allison that is who makes the team and earns the #3 spot.

Maybe Allison remains with the team but further down on the depth chart. All this needs to be sorted during TC and could be impacted by injuries.

Rodgers may have a say in the WR group as well. He likes to have receivers who know where they are supposed to be and when they are are supposed to be there. The Packers also prefer receivers who have experience with the scramble drill for Rodgers when he leaves the pocket. These scenarios favor veteran receivers.

It may be difficult for one of the rookies to break through the group of incumbents but IMO the best players play. So if someone is better than Allison they play before him, assuming he makes the team at all.

It's about fielding the best team for 2018. To me that's what the upcoming process is all about.
Thanks, Since '61

"Allison had seven catches on 12 targets on third and fourth down last year". Yeah, he didn't catch almost 50% of the passes that went his way. The year before he caught almost everything. I view Graham as the 3rd WR so we are really talking about the 4th receiver here and that makes me happy. If our biggest issue is who the 4th guy is at WR than it should be a good year!

Let the games begin. Allison has a great opportunity. The holdover receivers do not. I think the young rookies drafted have great height and speed. Question is route running and learning to connect with Rodgers. Simple, but true. Ley the competition roll.

Hard to tell with Hundley throwing. He should be gone by now. Rodgers will make any receiver look good.

I see Clark and Davis as gone and what’s his name...Yancey gone as well. I also see Philbin as drawing up better plays so that the secret head nod get on the same page as Aaron plays are reduced. Better scheme and better players produce better results. Gmo has a cool name but does not have the skill to be a starter. At least two of the draft picks make the team because they are the future.

As the years have gone by, various training camps and summer hero's one thing has become very true and fairly obvious.

MM is not a "highly successful NFL coach" because of his playbook, designs and brains, or leadership. In fact a good case can be made he is NOT a highly successful NFL coach. MM is a pretty interesting call. Is AROD because of, due to, the product of MM? If so then maybe MM is successful.

But his record outside AROD is not just bad it is dismal. His player comments and projects not remotely accurate. How many summer heros has MM raved about? and been correct?

How about his GURU status as a QB trainer? Was BH ready? Go back and read MM raving....RAVING about BH

Or was that power struggle?

Did MM throw BH under the bus KNOWING better but not having any alternative to getting rid of teddie?

I believe Geronimo Allison is nice young fellow. Good teammate. Hard working person.

And, he get specific name, many in Packers nation love.

I will state again. Nice name will not win any game for Packers.

I'm fan of Packers. i'm not fan of this or that player. I'm fan of all packers players, while they are playing for Packers. When player leave Packers I'm thankful for his effort to make team I'm fan of better... That is all...

So, at this moment I have 90 players I'm cheering for them (each and any). But who will stay, and who will go, I decide to let decision to people who 1. knows football much better than me, 2. knows how to estimate players much better than me and 3. will have to be responsible for the result made with players they picked up at the end of the TC.

Thank you!

I like to think 3 tall fast wideouts=1 impact WR by the end of the year. I have no basis for this, it's just my feeling. And I think at the very least Brown, who attended Notre Dame, will have the smarts to learn the system and be a factor before the year is out.

I’m excited to see what or if Geronimo can improve . I like calling out his name after a good play when we’re twittering. I also want to see Davis improve his special teams and emergency wr fill in game...he does have some speed and jukes. Really excited to see AR returning while simultaneously wondering if I should take Jimmy Graham on my fanasty team this year. And I’m also excited about what Mercedes Lewis will do....he is an all around true tight end....canblock chip, catch etc. But this Pettine defense has really got me excited.

As always in Packer camp the loudest, most fierce arguments will center around who are the backup receivers. Every season there is someone who gets vehement discussion back and forth with people convinced he is a future hall of famer while the other posters are just as vehemently sure he is a future insurance salesman.

Not a single one of these players have ever turned around and amounted to anything showing the argument was all just summer steam being blown off over a fringe NFL level player.

This season the stakes are higher because the argument will be about the number 3 and 4 receivers. And these are people who project to see a lot of playing time. My hope is Allison is on the team but as a number 5 or 6 receiver because some other promising players have usurped him.

As a bodybuilder I have a fondness for the son of the profoundly weird and great Ron Brown and hope he makes the team. Besides how can you not root for a kid who can speak three languages fluently and has a full name of Equanimeous Tristan Imhotep J. St. Brown? But he needs to prove it on the field and show he can be where Rodgers wants him to be or he can go back to Cali and lift weights with his dad.