Is it not also possible that the decrease in shorter slot routes such as slants in the second half of the season had an impact on Reeds output? The offense was conspicuously lacking in exactly the plays that a classic slot usually makes (and generally on short plays over the middle to anyone).

Reed is a slot, he can do more on an occasional basis as a WR but not full time successfully. Increasingly LaFleur was using him away from his strengths and this showed up in his depth of target average of over 10 yards. The offense lost its way conceptually and Reed’s use was at the heart of that.

Red overachieving in '23 can be followed up by Reed overachieving in '25 even more. It'd only be right.

I still want to see #85 88 & 8 used significantly more in the passing game than they were in '24 and would not object to taking a WR in round 1.

GPG!

Doubs is one slip/fall backwards away from being potentially out of football. His 2nd concussion was self induced and not even a 'hit'. With his self important image as an absolute alpha WR, he's on his way to probably his last season in GB. They should be looking for inevitable replacement at this point. His arrow before last year was all pointing up. Arrogance and unfortunate injury has changed that.

Musgrave is a move TE. We have never seen LaFleur really utilize one of those effectively. Where he has used TEs is as he uses Kraft, which is more on the blocking than big play side. Musgrave is capable of out blocking receivers but not much more. He’s also so far looked like a guy with limited lateral ability who functions best in a straight line. Kraft on the other hand has very quick feet, breaks tackles and gets YAC.

LaFleur is therefore going to have to find a reason to put Musgrave out there over Kraft or over a WR. Big slot removes Reed who is currently our primary speed threat. It’s not immediately obvious to me how LaFleur integrates him positively on a regular basis without moving others out of position. Could Musgrave in fact play big X?

Marshawn Lloyd is such a perfect candidate for return duties. He needs to demonstrate that he's put fumbling behind him. What better way? His ability in open space is what people rave about. What better opportunity? Let him prove himself like this, then he's gold as a RB.

i think reed is the only one of the group of first contract wide-outs that gets a second contract in GB.

"Active all 17 games. Third on the team with 75 touches. Second on the team with yards from scrimmage with 1020. 7 TDs."

...on a team that threw the ball 110 fewer times than the previous year, Reed had the same number of touches, 100 more yards from scrimmage, and essentially the same TDs.

"I do have to laugh at the notion that missing Watson is "not missing much". 555 snaps and 20 yards per touch. If you show me the guy in the draft who can give us that, I'm on board."

As it stands, the Packers are going to be forced to shoehorn someone into that role...and it might be a rookie who may or may not have the chops to pull it off.

As Dobber stated, Reed has done it in college, and has done it for two years in the NFL. He's going to be fine. Unlike Wicks, Reed didn't come to the NFL with a rep for drops.

I agree with you, missing Watson is a big hole! He was playing VERY efficient last season making 20 yds per catch! He was always effective stretching the D and making circus catches...just needs to be available in more games. But the games he did play last season changed how defenses attacked Love & Co.

Leatherhead check out Tory Horton 4.41 speed big enough good against man coverage good blocker what’s not to like ?or just look at a Watson clone- Donte thorton 6’5 205 4.30 speed decent against man and blocking and faster than Watson pure outside speed guy that can catch low production in that screwy tenn offense but averages 26 yrs per catch either or both should be there in third and/ or fourth rd I’m hoping for at least one of them

@CW-Both Jordy and Davante were self-motivated and both wanted the ball. Rodgers rewarded those who were excellent both during the week, in meetings, and on the field.
Jordy and Davante are on record stating they would do what it took to be 'the guy'
Rodgers was notorious for showing his displeasure to the 'unprepared' by either not throwing to them or over-throwing, etc.

Two things the draftnik community do that gives them so much false confidence;

1) Most draftniks post multiple different variations of their draft selections for a given team. I get it, that's what they do with their time, they participate in multiple mock drafts and publish their picks. The thing is, they often use those multiple draft lists to put into a hopper and when a player ends up developing into a budding star, they cherry pick that player and claim "I had him picked!" - neglecting to mention they also picked 14 other players at that draft slot, too.

2) The draft is dynamic and that creates a completely different set of difficulties to contend with, but draftniks tend to produce static list of players that are their 'best guess' as to who's going to be available, which isn't rooted in reality. Now what you need to do is show up live and in real time and call out your selections before the Packers actually pick, having to make adjustments on the fly to who's available, who's not, and the possibilities that teams are moving around spots, too.

Then of course there's all the things you can't account for, like all of the actual inter-team conversations about potential trade scenarios that are flying around throughout the process (and intra-team convos, too).

I understand the enjoyment that drafniks find in the hobby, but I marvel at how easily they fall into believing they're just as good as the pros.