Cory's Corner: Davante Adams is the Packers' No. 1 wideout

The Packers’ offense has been in disarray since Nov. 1 of last season.

We saw something different last week. We saw Green Bay try to break out of its shell and actually resemble a complete team.

And the reason is because of Davante Adams. He had the best game of his two-and-a-half year career with 13 receptions for 132 yards and two touchdowns.

Jordy Nelson clearly isn’t back from offseason knee surgery and Randall Cobb still struggles with press coverage. And because of that, Adams should be the team’s No. 1 receiver for the rest of the year.

As long as coach Mike McCarthy keeps his stale offense chugging along, it is imperative that the receivers can win their one-on-one matchups — since he doesn’t call many rub routes, pick plays or crosses that are designed to get receivers open.

And that’s why it should be Adams. Nelson and Cobb are getting bottled up and can’t really get free, Ty Montgomery is expending too much energy as the team’s featured back and Jeff Janis still isn’t sure what route he’s running.

Adams owned his matchup last week and should do the same against an Atlanta pass defense that’s ranked 31st in the league.

It usually takes a long time for Aaron Rodgers to trust his receivers. But now it’s time for Rodgers to trust Adams, because frankly, he’s all he’s got.

The Packers aren’t back on track yet. We won’t know that until they can get a true running back in the backfield. But that doesn’t mean that they can’t string some wins together — and fashion the receiver of the future in Adams.

Is that a lot to ask of a guy that has had only one 100-yard receiving game in his career? Perhaps. But he’s quick and has really improved his route running. And it helps that he kept trying to get open on Thursday when others were either loafing or were taken out of the play.

Adams and Montgomery are the most dynamic players on offense. You might as well squeeze every ounce of speed and playmaking out of a group that desperately needs it. Janis has speed, but it’s obvious that he doesn’t take learning the offense seriously and it appears that Rodgers has nearly given up on him.

If this team wants to remain in win-now mode, it has to utilize all of its weapons.

Adams can help them win games. Just throw him the ball. 

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Cory Jennerjohn is a graduate from UW-Oshkosh and has been in sports media for over 15 years. He was a co-host on "Clubhouse Live" and has also done various radio and TV work as well. He has written for newspapers, magazines and websites. He currently is a columnist for CHTV and also does various podcasts. He recently earned his Masters degree from the University of Iowa. He can be found on Twitter: @Coryjennerjohn

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carusotrap's picture

October 25, 2016 at 06:33 am

Short term, last week was a tonic.

But long term, you really have to wonder if McCarthy and Thompson are going to be here much longer. I suppose that is going to depend on Mark Murphy and how much he values winning vs. having a successful team business. For most teams, those things are intertwined, but for GB, they don't have to win to be profitable. We - and I'm in this "we" - are going to watch them and buy their stuff regardless of their record. We may all complain endlessly, but they're still our team and always will be. So, the question is how much quirky personnel gymnastics and stale play book is too much for Murphy?

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John30856's picture

October 26, 2016 at 12:12 pm

really, weh have been spoiled with winning records for the last 20 plus years!!!

Sheesh, current record 4-2, my that's awful

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NickPerry's picture

October 25, 2016 at 06:58 am

Adams has been catching the ball much better. Go back and look at Thursdays games and he caught just about every pass with his hands, looking the ball into his hands the whole way before trying to run, spin, or whatever to gain YAC. He's definitely using his strength and body better to win his match-ups.

Janis ran a route Thursday where he ran right into the defender. It looked like that was where Rodgers wanted to throw, but Janis blew the play 4 steps into his route and I don't think he saw the field again though I'm not 100% sure. The point is Janis still looks like the same guy the last few years. He may be fast and physical, but he doesn't seem to have a clue with his reads.

If I didn't know better I'd think Rodgers has lost a little "Trust" with Nelson. 2 weeks ago he had a few drops, one resulting in an INT. Last week Rodgers didn't even seem to look his way except for a very few plays. We all saw the route where Nelson had his man beat down the sideline and Rodgers didn't throw it. 2 years ago that throw would have been first and foremost in Rodgers mind. As crazy as this sounds has Rodgers lost confidence in himself to hit the deep ball, even if it's just a little?

... If the Packers are going to challenge "The Big Boys" they'll need Cobb and Monty to keep playing like they have the last 2 weeks and McCarthy will have to stay a step ahead and dare I say adjust as Defenses adjust to Cobb and Monty. Knile Davis running like Ryan Grant did his 1st year in Green Bay would help a ton too!

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:23 am

That play by Janis, IMO should have been pass interference. The ILB hit Janis as the ball was coming. Maybe Janis didn't sell it enough, but if I remember right it should have been DPI.

This week Rodgers only Targeted Nelson 4 times. I think there might be some hesitation in Rodgers forcing it to Nelson.
I am not sure if Rodgers has lost confidence in his deep ball, but I think he was mad at himself on that one throw to Nelson which was defensive pass interference. If he leads him to the sideline that is likely a catch and possibly a TD. Later in the game Nelson got a step on the defender and Rodgers didn't throw it to him.

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cpheph1's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:45 pm

The defensive player certainly impeded Janis' route but the defender also established position 1st. IMO, not Janis' fault & AR should've thrown elsewhere.

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dobber's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:03 am

"The point is Janis still looks like the same guy the last few years. He may be fast and physical, but he doesn't seem to have a clue with his reads."

People parallel Janis to Bill Schroeder (small school, fast, good size, etc.) and that's a good comparison, IMO. If you look at Schroeder it took him SIX YEARS after leaving UW-Lax before he really matured into anything. One of those years he was out of football.

http://www.nfl.com/player/billschroeder/2502858/profile

Maybe that's the curve that Janis is on. He's carved himself a niche that might allow him to hang on that long...but will the Packers (or any team) be that patient anymore under the current cap rules? If you're going to use Janis as a WR, my opinion is that you need to allow him to run free so he can get into his route with minimal analysis...put him in motion, put him in a stack/bunch. The problem is, the Packers don't do those things very much. But utilizing motion will help to set up other things (misdirection, jet sweeps, reverses, etc.) later.

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rdent's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:33 am

From what I understand all Janis was required to do at Saginaw Valley State was run down the field since he was bigger and faster than most CB's and Safeties in that
conference ,he didn't get the coaching and competition he would have had at a division 1 college. I like the Bill Schroeder comparison and I too believe Janis is still a work in progress and ST may be the only reason he's still there.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 25, 2016 at 09:18 am

"The problem is, the Packers don't do those things very much. But utilizing motion will help to set up other things (misdirection, jet sweeps, reverses, etc.) later."

I have felt that way for a long time, the last 3 years especially. I only wish MM would try that just for a month. Then lets see what would happen. He has the perfect collection of talent to do that. Cobb, Janis Adams Abby, now Monty. A mule is less stubborn.

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Yooper's picture

October 25, 2016 at 10:56 am

The last two games Janis had two catches each game and then he gets leveled by the opposing linebacker while the pass was in the air - Looked like pass interference to me - Aaron gets that disgusted look on his face and doesn't target him again and now some fans say its time to move on - Wow - Our team has had so many misplays by so many people including Aaron this and last year and the answer is - make a misplay and we are moving on from you - Wow - i am afraid with those high standards we won't have enough players to field a team - Shortly!!!!!!

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NMPF's picture

October 25, 2016 at 11:45 am

I believe the play you are referring to is an adjustment route predicated on the defensive LB. Janis should have probably broke into a seam route. It's not moving on, Janis has a shotgun body and a BB brain.

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Yooper's picture

October 25, 2016 at 02:46 pm

Just saying - Lots of pro players score poorly on the ability to learn tests but if you ask them to do the things they are good at they flourish as in "don't expect fish to climb trees" - Send him deep a dozen times a game and throw to him - We need to stretch the field and we need a fast tall receiver to do it - who else is our deep threat and whats happened to A - Rod and the deep ball !!:^)

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NMPF's picture

October 25, 2016 at 03:11 pm

Unless he can be a threat other that running 50 yds down field, teams can play 15 yds off and make him totally ineffective.

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NickPerry's picture

October 26, 2016 at 05:58 am

That's exactly the play I was talking about. I don't think interference was called because he was still 5 yards off the LOS AND it appeared Janis ran into the LB all on his own.

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Lphill's picture

October 25, 2016 at 06:56 am

They brought up Geronimo Allison this kid looked good in the pre season , good speed good hands . I think also you feature Adams maybe defenses won't key on Jordy and then you go back to Jordy for third down conversions or short crossing slants Jordy always seemed capable of getting that inside move on defenders.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:24 am

One thing that Allison maybe able to provide is a target in the Red zone. He has good size and that's something that our WR's don't have a lot of.

Something to keep an eye on is if they use Allison in the Redzone.

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dobber's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:09 am

I certainly think it can't hurt to have another tall receiver in your arsenal (and it's no guarantee that he'll even be active on Sundays), Allison's measurables don't point to him being remarkably fast or quick. I think he fights for the ball and has good instincts, but working against preseason CBs and defenses that aren't game-planning is a world different than what he'll see if he logs offensive snaps on Sundays. I hope I'm wrong, but realistically I think he's just a ST body if he's active at all.

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Handsback's picture

October 25, 2016 at 06:57 am

You have speed, hands, quickness and length in Green Bay's receiving corp. If MM and his coaches can't or don't know how to use everyone...get another coach that can. Without any true running back at this time, I fully expect to see Rodgers sling that ball and if he's not getting it to the open receiver within a few seconds, then a dump-off to the RB/TE will be a must. When he's sitting back there for more than a few seconds and nobody is open, the RB/TE have to figured into the route to bleed out and get ready for the catch.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:06 am

If this team wants to remain in win-now mode, it has to utilize all of its weapons"

Preaching to the choir.

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NickPerry's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:20 am

Exactly TB... The Packers have talent, lots of it but it's different from the past. It's up to McCarthy to take advantage of each players talents and adapt to that instead of running an offense that maybe doesn't fit what those players do best.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:15 am

BINGO

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 25, 2016 at 09:01 am

+100

It's beyond aggravating to watch. It's getting to the point where I struggle to enjoy watching them play at times.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:17 am

'If this team wants to remain in win-now mode, it has to utilize all of its weapons.'

Exactly what most of us here have been preaching. They have start using all their weapons...

Against the Bears, I like that McCarthy spread them out and used his weapons. Though most of that was due to necessity. It was still nice to see McCarthy actually spread teams out again with 4 and 5 WR sets. We really haven't seen much of that the last few years.
What really makes this set work is Montgomery in the backfield. They finally have a true weapon coming out of the backfield. The biggest positive that came out of the Dallas loss was that they started to figure out how to use Montgomery in the backfield in that game.

The offense has been moving the ball actually fairly well most of the season. One of the biggest areas that they have struggled in though is in the redzone. They are the 2nd rank team in scoring TD attempts per game, yet are 17th ranked in Redzone TD Scoring percentage. They are currently scoring TD's 52% of the time they are in the redzone.

The one player right now that I think can really help them in the most in the red zone is Adams. His first TD where he caught it over the defender seemed to spark the team and Rodgers faith in Adams. That could be the turning point in the season for Rodgers. Rodgers really seemed to be dialed in after that play.

I'm not saying that Adams has to be the #1 WR, but he is going to be very important to this offense.

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Razer's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:34 am

... Against the Bears, I like that McCarthy spread them out and used his weapons...

Between the color rush uniforms and the spread offense, I thought that I was looking at a college game. MM becomes Chip Kelly. Keep it going.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:54 am

Most of us have been waiting to see an offense like this. With the weapons we have, it was really nice to finally see them open it up.

And your right. With the uniforms and spread offense it felt more like an Oregon Ducks game then Packers...

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jh9's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:56 am

What's the timetable on Cook's return? Now, he could really, really help those redzone scoring numbers.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:23 am

Completely agree. I haven't heard when he is due to come back. I know last week he was out of his walking boot. I would think a couple of weeks maybe?

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John30856's picture

October 26, 2016 at 12:17 pm

Amazing all the trade Adams guys now think he should be #1. Was a good game and I believe he will become the palyer we had hoped for

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stockholder's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:19 am

One game ends all the trouble? I think you guys are looking for the needle in the haystack. People don't change overnight. Adams still is the flash and Tease. Adams is the poison to A-rod! The Fall will bring your butts back to earth. It's coming. Montgomery is the key to helping everyone. I still believe in Cobb. He is the real deal. And I believe A-rod gets Jordy going. The bears game was perfectly called. So this next game is the biggest test for this offense.

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Razer's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:30 am

So true on many fronts. Your comment "so this next game is the biggest test for this offense" captures the reality of a NFL season. The next game is always the acid test. Let's hope that Adams confirms, Jordy redeems, Montgomery repeats and Janis runs the right route :o)

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NickPerry's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:36 am

One game doesn't make a season but I think overall Adams has been much better this season than last season. Sure he's had a few drops, so has Cobb and Nelson. I think you'd agree Nelson, especially the Nelson of 2014 and before had some of the games "Best Hands", but before 2011 he dropped quite a few balls. Hell, even in his coming out party SB 45 he had 4 drops.

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Razer's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:23 am

One win against the bottom Bears with a half of decent ball and we are proclaiming the team fixed. I need to see Davante Adams play-out the season without disappearing, dropping center shots or whining about tight coverage before he gets my trust. As much as this team has been beaten with scheme, it has beaten itself with inconsistent performance. Just when we see a guy emerge or a phase of the team improve they tank the following week.

I don't know if this is a player based issue or if the coaching is failing to keep the team focused on things that it can do well. Obviously, injuries keep changing the landscape but executing a simple plan doesn't seem to be part of the formula. I think our approach has been to 'try to' execute a complex plan (our offensive scheme). Too many moving parts for a group that is struggling. Maybe all it takes is for a guy or two to step-up. Can Davante or Montgomery be those guys? Let's start our Hope machine again. GPG

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Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:45 am

Right now, Montgomery is the guy.

Adams is fine, but he beat up a #5 CB. Come on.

Montgomery was everywhere, terrorizing an admittedly bad Bears defense. But at least he wasn't isolated on a complete nobody with no business being in the NFL.

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October 25, 2016 at 09:07 am

For me it's how they can use Montgomery to dictate to the other team how they have to cover. Teams have been able to cheat their safeties and cover man. If Montgomery starts beating them up the seams on screens, wheel routes and etc they aren't going to be able to do it and they may even have to resort to zone. Rodgers has consistently destroyed zone.

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Andrew Lloyd Peth's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:42 am

Adams beat up a #5 CB who doesn't belong in the league, and now we're supposed to believe Adams is "The Man."

My goodness.

Granted, this team has no #1 receiver, but maybe we should wait for Adams to get open against one CB who is even average--just once--before we put him in Canton.

Jus' sayin'.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:19 am

You are right on ALP.

Adams is what he is: James Jones. Is he a #1? No. Will he ever be? No. But he could be a good #2 - moving the sticks. Making tough catches.

We need a #1. That's got to become Jordy. OR we need the young guys to step up: Adams, Davis, Monty, Allison.

An offense can work well with a bunch of #2s spread out over the field and a QB who can read defenses. (this is of course assuming ARod continues to play like he did against the Bears in the 2nd half).

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dobber's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:37 am

I think you hit the nail on the head: the Packers really don't have a #1 receiver right now, they have 2a, 2b, 2c, 2d. But this is where they have a chance to make hay: they can find that guy the defense has chosen to ignore in a given week who is matching up on a #3 or #4 CB and exploit that. I think Nelson will, at least for a while, be the initial focus of most DCs, but Cobb a couple weeks ago, Adams last week, Montgomery...there will be winnable matchups going on, but it will require the Packers to use their WR depth more often than what we saw with the dreaded 11-personnel in the past.

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NickPerry's picture

October 25, 2016 at 09:24 am

You and RC are right. The Packers always were always so good because most teams can't match up with their #3 or #4 WR. It's all on McCarthy to use ALL his personal.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:46 am

No one is putting him in Canton. Adams just can't win with anyone... It's like we all forgot his rookie season where he beat up Brandon Browner in the Patriots game. He had a great rookie year when Nelson and Cobb were getting most of the targets.

Last year I think he was hurt and put in a position he wasn't ready for. He probably "pressed" too much resulting in some of the drops.

Fast forward to this year and look at his production. He had 4 career TD's and has 5 this year already. He his on pace for 75 Receptions 935 yards and 13 TDs.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 25, 2016 at 09:00 am

exactly right. We really don't know how unhealthy Adams was last year. I think he was hurt more then we were told. Which also made him lose confidence and over compensate for the injury which made him press and he just wasn't the same player.

Adams appears to be a lot more physical this year then what he has been in the past.

My bold prediction prior to the season for Adams was that he would lead the team in TD catches. It wouldn't surprise me if Rodgers targets him more often in the Redzone.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:03 pm

No Adams is not a number 1 and he doesnt have to be. All we need him to do is have a few, ideally several, of those games a year.

As for Janis, he's not the enemy, give him a fair chance as we have done with so many who have made far worse mistakes.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 25, 2016 at 12:17 pm

Why should they give him a chance if they can clearly see in day to day meetings and practices that he is not prepared?

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Tundraboy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:19 am

How does anyone know what they see. From press bites. What I see is they often sit talent too long. Dont use him then cut him.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:47 am

Don't use him then cut him???? that's just dumb... like having some depth is a bad thing.

I know they aren't playing him so they see something that contributes to the decision. It's definitely not like everyone says where McCarthy is too stubborn to play him. He's way more methodical than that and is insulting to McCarthy's ability as a coach.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:06 pm

A dozen snaps a year?

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Samson's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:26 pm

Hey Spuds--
Ya, but, you pray to MM and think MM is the 21st century Lombardi. -- MM is an average HC who has been coat-tailed for years by the play of AR. --- Without AR, MM would be coaching at Saginaw State by now.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 28, 2016 at 10:34 am

Lol. True

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lou's picture

October 26, 2016 at 10:50 am

Agreed, the DB covering Adams came off the practice squad the week before and played all of 3 snaps in his first game and now Adam's is the teams No. 1 option ? Give Adams's credit, he was quick in his routes and scored twice, his best game to date and if that continues he could be a nice inter-mediate option but he does not have the speed to be a deep threat which you need to be the "No. 1 option". The headline for this article should have been "Come On Man".

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Donster's picture

October 25, 2016 at 07:46 am

It would be great if Allison became the surprise that Adams was two years ago. That is if MM plays him. Janis may be good as a gunner on punts, but he as failed on most everything else. The playoff game against Arizona was a situation where Rodgers didn't have anybody else left to throw to other that Abby. I like Janis. Have always wanted him to succeed. But maybe after the season it is time to let him go.

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NMPF's picture

October 25, 2016 at 10:14 am

I don't think they should wait till the end of season on Janis. The guy has 2 tkls, 35 return yds. and 4 rec/28 yds. Team has bigger needs.

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TXCHEESE's picture

October 25, 2016 at 08:46 am

Actually the number one receiver is designated by the defense....who they put their best corner or add safety help on. It did seem like Adams was working really hard to get open, double moves, stops and startss etc. Sometimes is seems all the receivers run a 5 to 10 yard burst and then just start dancing around. I'll give Jordy a hall pass for the first half of the season. Let him get comfortable with pushing that knee a bit. I agree with Phil Simms assessment on Thursday, the offense and defense looked a whole lot like the Patriots.

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Brian Lee's picture

October 25, 2016 at 09:05 am

It would be interesting to see Adams and Allison as the outside WRs with Cobb and Nelson in the slots and Montgomery in the backfield. What I love about Montgomery in the backfield is the way that it will open up the middle of the field for the rest of the receivers.
There is no way a LB can cover Monty in the flat. Now if the LB cheats that way and somehow gets to the spot, then the route to the flat becomes a wheel route and Monty runs away from the LB down the sidelines. Eventually defenses will be forced to have a safety drop down to cover his routes out of the backfield. That will open up the middle for our slot receivers.
Monty will allow the Pack to "attack" the flat, in a way they have never been able to before. As defenses adjust, their over-compensation will create "holes" in other parts of the field. Their is huge value in stretching the defense with Monty in the backfield. Now, imagine when we get Cook back!!!

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October 25, 2016 at 10:25 am

Allison ain't gonna see the field.

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October 25, 2016 at 09:37 am

It never hit me all of last year nor this one until someone mentioned it on Twitter recently: Adams' career path could be mimicking James Jones'. Both started out screwing up everything, dropping passes, fumbling etc. Jones figured it out & became one of Rodgers' most trusted guys. Who's to say Adams isn't in the process of doing that right now and actually has a wider skill set than Jones did for the long term to boot?

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Since'61's picture

October 25, 2016 at 09:40 am

It was good to see Adams step up against the Bears. Time will tell if he is our #1 receiver or not. Given the current state of our running game we are going to need AR and the receiving corps to carry the offense. To achieve this we need to create mismatches with Monty and hopefully Cook as soon as possible. Jordy may become more effective as a decoy. Trevor Davis and/or Allison may be able to draw some coverage on the boundary to help open the middle for Monty, Adams and Cook when he returns. We will most likely be running off the pass so expect to see inside handoffs, draw plays and screens. Rip will hopefully get some quick hitters and possibly a middle screen. In any case, against Atlanta we need to move the chains and keep Ryan and Jones off the field. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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Tundraboy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:24 am

"We will most likely be running off the pass so expect to see inside handoffs, draw plays and screens."

Boy, would d I love to see that.

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Tarynfor12's picture

October 25, 2016 at 10:06 am

Saying Davante Adams is the Packers #1 receiver is rich with ill emotion based on play against a horrible team and one weeks performance.
When he drops big play passes next week will he be quickly dropped back to 2,3,4 or a benching by this writer or those here agreeing via sheer blindness.

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NMPF's picture

October 25, 2016 at 10:21 am

I don't think you are anointed the #1 receiver. The opposing D kind of dictates that. I do think that the Thursday game did put some D's on alert that one week it could be Adams the next Cobb or Monty.

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Ferrari Driver's picture

October 25, 2016 at 10:30 am

Don't think we will see Atlanta's top corner on Adams

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Packer_Pete's picture

October 25, 2016 at 10:50 am

First of all, the Bears secondary is the worst in the NFL. So it really doesn't matter who stepped up...

Secondly, opposing Defenses will show who is the no 1 WR. you can always take away one guy, but the key then is to throw to other receivers if the no 1 is double covered. only if Adams will play consistently well and only when opposing Ds will shift their focus onto him will he be the no 1 WR. Until then it still is Jordy as 1a and Cobb as 1b, as both are double covered most often...

but it really doesn't matter who is no 1, 2, or 3, if QB1 would just throw to whoever is open, no matter whether he 'trusts him' or not, then the O will start playing better...

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Tundraboy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:25 am

Yup.

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al bundy's picture

October 25, 2016 at 11:31 am

Where an the hell has he been for the other year and a half? The guy is so so. Hands are iffy. If we had a real TE to take some pressure off, maybe he would be more consistent. Cant put it all on him, Cobb, Jordy when defenses do not have to account for the TE up the middle.

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Rossonero's picture

October 25, 2016 at 01:44 pm

It may be a little early to make this declaration, but if Adams keeps playing this way, he will be the no. 1 WR. Nelson got swallowed up by....Tracey Porter? An old veteran, but surely no shut down corner.

What's up with that? No big plays yet from Nelson yet either. After awhile, it makes you wonder if hes lost a step.

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October 26, 2016 at 09:40 pm

I haven't read all of the comments yet but hopefully somebody mentioned Davonte has previous surpassed the 100+ in-game yardage mark (vs NE & Dal) but who's counting...

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