I am starting to think it is something in the water causing these hamstring injuries. DO NOT DRINK THE WATER!!!

Campbell not being a fan of playing in a Barry D or for the man? Whatever one might think of Barry, Campbell does kind of owe his continued career to Gute bringing him here and Barry playing him. Perhaps it’s the direction change Barry took in years 2 & 3 that’s the issue, but it still seems a particularly disingenuous whinge from Campbell.

If by some miracle Barry would have been kept another year, I think the defense would have gone into full revolt. The guy had lost the locker room.

1. Fully healthy Watson for most of the season is what could be a difference maker in many games. Even him being on snap count and playing on 90% gas he upgraded our offense.
2. As long as our QB wants to attend voluntary practices we are heading into the right direction. The later he gets into "I know everything" mode, the better. Btw what do these pros do at home when they skip voluntary trainings? I'd go there even for curiosity to find out about new guys. But I've never been a pro and never will.
3. It would be fun to see Campbells face when someday Barry would become his DC again :)

You could see Cambell's slide starting the year after his All-Pro season when they drafted Quay.

He attributed all his success to coming to Green Bay and being promised and kept at the Mike position. He said he never did well on other teams when he had to switch around and do the all the other jobs too. As soon as Quay got there, he lost his steady job and the headset. Barry not using his players to their best ability again? Go figure.

That said, I'm glad all the toxicity with players and coaches have left the building (I hope). That's a thumbs up for MLF.

🤔 well at least he had the decency to wait till the onset of the next season.

Nah bullshit, Barry or no Barry, there were games towards the end of he last year where his dogging it definitely impacted our ability to meet the moment when it mattered most.

I ignored most of the headlines on this simply because I'm tired of whining excuses for obvious lack of effort., waiting of course to see what my fellow chtv members thought of this gem.

Well now I got that out of my system. so happy that football is back, minus the usual injuries of course.

So...if what was done in Madison re: Christian's hammy was so successful, will others follow suit? JOSH JACOBS ARE YOU READING/LISTENING??? ;)

Injuries are always a concern. I'm just glad the Packers are deeper, at most positions, this year. GO PACK, GO!!!

Joe Barry was terrible for the Packers. I don't think the players wanted to play for him. The Campbell post is indicative of the issue. What defensive player likes a passive scheme. Alexander's issues from last year is another example. Glad Barry is gone.

Better have Jacob's hamstring asymmetry item looked at. And what's this all about with the pectoral injuries. Better get that fixed and soon. Jacob's issue is troubling because he is learning a new system

The S&C world is largely a cluster**ck, even at the pro level. It's very much an old boy's/"who you know"/nepotism kind of thing rather than a competence thing. I've spoken to high level S&C coaches as recently as last year who still think squats are bad for your knees and deadlifts are bad for your back, despite the fact that both myths have been resoundingly debunked for at least 20 years. I could give a regular person who gets most of their info from the local news or YouTube a pass, but a professional S&C coach for a major program thinking that...in 2023? SMH.

Here's another perfect example. Guys like Max McGee could go out drinking all night and then play an intense 60 minutes of football without pulling a hamstring, yet today's athletes seem to pull one tying their shoes. We've supposedly gotten light years ahead in the S&C department since the 60s, but simple injuries like that are vastly more common. The opposite "should" be true. And this isn't some "people were just tougher back then" BS like some folks will try to say it is, this is one of many examples of how modern S&C practitioners often miss the forest for the trees. They're overlooking basic hydration and conditioning principles in favor of whatever trendy crap is popular at the moment.

SF seems to be where Packer castoff-ILBs go. First Oren Burks, now Campbell walks into a pretty good situation playing next to Fred Warner as Dre Greenlaw recovers from his Achilles. Can he keep that job?

I think the Packers needed some fresh faces and ideas in the S&C department. Soft tissue injuries have been on the rise in the league in recent years and hamstring injuries ran rampant last year. Hopefully this will make a difference.

As I get older, I'm finding that muscular balance in just about everything is pretty important...as an example: I've had minor back problems recently caused by sitting on my wallet! I'm not going to dismiss that possibility that asymmetry was the issue with a young buck like Watson...and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a similar story with Stokes. Watson changes the offense when he's active and, with Aaron Jones gone, he's the athletic freak that can scare DCs and open up opportunities for everyone else just by being on the field.

That said, here's an interesting stat: in the games where Watson was active in 2023 (not including playoffs), the Packers were 4-5 and averaged 23 points per game. In the others, the Packers were 5-3 and averaged 25.6 ppg. Do with that what you will.

The answer to "why didn't the Packers add to the OLB/DE/Edge rotation this off-season?"...they knew Enagbare would be available. I think he's better suited to play with his hand on the ground in the even front as a rotational DE than trying to play on the edge in the 3-4. I like the Packers' depth on the outside right now.

I've already said my part on Campbell on this thread, and I'm done. When players leave town in a huff, they're not worthy of our bandwidth anymore...so, "who?"

I did not hear about Enagbare's updated injury status until after the draft. Don't know how I missed that, but was expecting him to be rehabbing for a good part of the season. Great news he's practicing!

What Enagbare has done with the opportunity given him is admirable. He showed up to last year's camp chiseled and in top shape, ready to play. He had a good season and was a key part of the Edge rotation. And having played DE at South Carolina should bode well for him in Hafley's 4-3/2 Defense.

I really like the young man.

Heavy lifting must follow sweaty warm up and stretching.

Before the draft I did mention on this site in the comments section that Marshawn Lloyd was the most 'Packery Packer', of all the RBs in the draft.

I liked Corum and Brooks as well, maybe more, but I could see Lloyd was a good fit for what the Packers want. Obviously Gute thought the same......

"on the Christian Watson front. After working with the experts down in UW-Madison over the offseason, they think they found the root of his hamstring issues. It seems at some point, the strength in his two legs became asymmetrical, as in, not the same."

I am not a doctor, just an enthusiastic if unskilled athlete who's had his share of injuries and then reads about them, so I am not sure, but I believe the 'symmetry issue' regarding hamstrings refers to a ratio of hamstring and quad muscles in one leg, not a balance of the muscular development of the two legs. That is, in my layman terms, the quad pulls so hard it over stresses the hamstring muscle causing the tendon to over stretch or tear.

Marshawn Lloyd -

I really don't feel like Lloyd gets talked about enough. I get that we have a lot of other things to talk about and specifically with the offense, but I don't think a lot of people really know how big of an impact Lloyd could make for this offense.

First Jacobs is the starter and most likely workhorse. But what Lloyd brings to the offense is the ability to hit the home run every time he touches the ball. He has the speed, he has the power, he has the ability to make people miss.

A lot of the attention will be on Love, the WR's and TE's. But Lloyd will compliment them very well. His home run threat ouf of the backfield will really open the offense up. I believe Lloyd is the final piece into makin this offense complete.

I really appreciate De'Vondre Campbell - for taking the time (once again) - to remind us why the Packers cut him.

The main issue these days for me is the contract situation of Jordan Love.
As, I think, one of Love's biggest supporters here at CHTV over the years, I'm still good with moving on from him if he wants to break the bank at something near $60 million per year.
I'm ready to go with Sean Clifford and Michael Pratt.
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The contracts for quarterbacks, as I understand it, are becoming too lopsidedly humongous and hurting their teams as far as obtaining and retaining strong rosters all the way through.
I don't want that to happen for the Packers.
I truly hope Love will show some leadership and accept something in the range of $50 million per year -- which could include making sure that such an average salary includes this season of 2024, when Love is due about $11 million, as I understand it.
If Goff is making about $52 million per year on his new contract, maybe give Love $53 million.
Otherwise, sad to say, let's start over at QB.
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Love would really energize all of his teammates to rally around him if he takes a little less so that they can get proportionately a lot more.
He would also help the Packers to have the salary cap room to consistently contend for a Super Bowl for years to come.
He would set himself apart as a true leader and a class act.

BRAVO, Al! I love the content you shared here. I needed a break, and got lost checking every one of those interviews after Watson's. Hot damn! We got some impressive energy in that 1265 Locker Room! Watson sounds great, and body mechanics is a legit thing. Injuries cause other muscle groups to compensate, and sometimes overcompensate. I saw a body mechanics guru about a decade after almost losing my foot in a motorcycle accident. It was amazing how he was able to see what needed doing immediately, with a plan that worked. I'm hoping Christian is able to perform better this season, and realize his ultimate success.

Wes' tweet is something I'd been harping on for years in GB, going back to Ha-Ha-Hamstring... Conditioning!

Enagbare coming back healthy is phenomenal, and I'm really looking forward to seeing his progression in his Year 3. He was one of many draft steals we've witnessed in that span, and man, he's got the goods physically to start making a bigger name for himself at DE. 6-4 265 with 35" arms and 10.5" hands. POWER & EXPLOSIVENESS are his calling cards. Last pick of the 5th Round in 2022, he ranked in the Top 100 Prospects of Ourlad's, Athlon's & PFF (one of their highest graded pass rushers the 2 years prior to his being drafted). He had the 9th highest pressure rate in FBS in 2021, and was 2nd in the SEC only to Alabama's Will Anderson Jr. Plus, he knows how to get off of blocks very well, and to set the edge.

Kingsley Enagbare was Dane brugler's #69 ranked prospect overall in the 2022 draft. He was PFF's #52 overall. Gutekunst selected him at Pick #179. Monster value.

I was a tad concerned about pass rush heading into this draft, but, no more.

As for MarShawn Lloyd, Holy crap. I'll leave it at that.

Thanks for yet another great share, Al. ROCK ON!

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All the good news(mostly) has been tempered a bit by some reports that Jordan Love and the Packers have not come to an agreement on an extension. While an agreement is still likely, imagine the following scenario:

Love and the Packers don't come to an agreement. He plays this season out, knowing full well some team would make him among the top 5 paid QB's. A former GM(Mike Tannenbaum) on NFL Live today said Love should reject any offer less than $60 mill per season on average. Yup, more than Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. While the chances of a problem in the extension are slim, Love could leave after next season. The chance of that is not zero. Then what? Sean Clifford? Pratt?

Love has the Packers in a shaky situation. That have to pay him but can they afford it? Who goes after that contract is signed? Kenny Clark?

Another troubling development was when I saw Love with Colin Kaepernick. Folks are free to associate with anyone they like, but I can think of a few dozen other players or former players Love could have visited with other than CK.