Let the real games begin. A season of seasoning. A season of potential disaster or of potential hope. The organization has reloaded. Let’s hope they chose live rounds and not blanks. Game one will continue the ownership of the Bears. The playoffs are not out of the question imho at 9-8 wildcard

I read an article recently that said the Packers have the lowest payroll for their offense which is not a surprise but it was by how much. They are over $10 million dollars below the Commanders who are 31. Now that is a statement not a complaint. I realize due to Murphy and Gutekunst catering to Rodgers and trying to make him happy with a new big contract we are feeling the pain this year.

I am surprised they kept Newman with the bad preseason he had and that they kept only 4 CBs. I get keeping only 4 CBs being that the rest of the CBs are simular in talent and they should be able to sign one or more of them to the PS. Like they did last year when they kept only Jones and Dillon because they knew they would be able to bring back 1 or 2 of the three.

They will regret having Clifford as the #2 and releasing McGough. My prediction is that NE will sign McGough today and he will end up being a good back up and my start this year. Yes we know Gute likes his draftees and will hang on to them too long. I just hope that if Clifford has to start he does not play like #2.

Get DOWN with your funky self, Al!!!

Well done. I’m constantly trying to figure out what Gutekunst is thinking. Been a draft/player personnel nerd most of my life, and that side of team sports is a true passion. There are worse vices.

I do think the DB Room will become more talented moving forward. TE likely gets an add today or via trade. ILB might become bolstered with a Cory Littleton signing. He had his best statistical years under Joe Barry at LAR. Might make for a nice reunion.

I like that the TRENCHES became a focus. Look how many of our playoff runs stopped dead in their tracks with issues there, on both sides of the ball.

Remarkable to note all 11 draft picks from 2022 made the team (per Zach Krause):

Walker. Wyatt. Watson. Rhyan. Doubs. Tom. Enagbare. Carpenter. Ford. Walker. Toure.

This could go down as one for the ages... especially if Carpenter becomes what they've envisioned, and the remainder continue to show positive development. 10 of those 11 draft picks have shown marked improvement.

FYI, the Packers are #15 in the Waiver Claim process.

LFG GPG

For the first time in a long time, this is our TEAM. Not a collection of chess pieces assembled on the board to protect the queen and do her bidding. A team of equals.

I'm more jacked to see what these aspirational young men can produce than I've been for about a decade. Within an environment where for the foreseeable future their success will be determined by how they integrate into a cohesive unit . A unit where each member knows their Job 1 is to play to their potential and have each other's backs, knowing that doing so will produce a sum greater than the total of its parts.

There’s an assumption in this piece that this is essentially a final roster. It’s not one I subscribe to. This year the league has a pause between cut down day and game 1. I believe that the chances are that GMs will be busy now shuffling.

In our case, I could see movement at corner, slot, S, G and TE. That said, the one waiver that could be a mistake is waiving Allen. I’m no pro scout, but a quick review of TE cuts didn’t throw up an obviously currently better blocking TE. Hopefully no other GM needs one and sees Allen as their best option.

At safety, in contradiction of your theme, we kept AJJ as an intriguing prospect and a bunch of never good enough types. The one guy I thought flashed some upside, Moore, was waived over a seemingly transitory injury.

Finally, nothing against Tenuta, but what’s going on with 11 OL, comprised of more than 50% tackles, even if one goes to IR, they clearly want him able to return? Something is up.

Huber, I think suggested Tenuta could play G, but he had not been tried there this summer despite our issues and doesn’t exactly fit the profile physically, despite a guard like mauler approach I like. I think that they want to trade Nijman and also still have the option to move Bakh before the deadline, or if not that, I confess I do not understand the thinking.

Now, on to the churn I hope, be it by waiver or PS raid, I hope Gute is going to be active.

"The Packers are clearly building for the future over the current. That doesn't mean they aren't trying to win in 2023 - they most certainly are."

One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to see what's going on. THIS Packers team, the 2023 team is all about building success for the future. In 2008 when Rodgers took over he had Donald Driver as the Vet, Jennings starting year 3, and James Jones was starting year 2. At TE they had Donald Lee who was in his 5th year and a promising rookie named Finley.

In 2023 Love has NONE of that. He basically has two James Jones in Watson and Doubs, and then EVERYONE else is a Finley...A promising rookie filling Packers fans with hope and optimism. BUT, what Love has that Rodgers didn't is a better O-Line and the best RB tandem in the NFL.

In the WR room Watson and Doubs are being looked at as leaders which is you think about it is a bit ridiculous. That's NOT a knock on either of those players, I happen to think BOTH will ball out this season if they stay healthy...Something NEITHER did in 2022. But to ask them to LEAD when they both are still LEARNING how to play WR in the NFL is a bit much IMO.

I get WHY Gute built his roster this way. With $57.8 MILLON in Dead Cap space (Thank you Aaron Rodgers and Mark Murphy) he didn't have any cap space to do anything else. This IS the best roster IMO he could have built.

But don't get it twisted, winning would be nice, but 2023 ISN'T about winning. Gute would NEVER come out and say it but he didn't need to. This Roster says it for him. What it is ALL about building a chemistry on both sides of the ball, especially the offense. The kicker is with a watered down NFC, a VERY watered down NFC, the Packers could still make the playoffs. Hell, 9-8 might win their division and I think this team is capable of that record.

Whatever the Packer look like this year, whether they win a bunch of games or lose them isn't what's most important. BUILDING a chemistry and LEARNING how to win is what's important. My hope is we see progress each week and by next season they have the experience they'll need moving into 2024.

Do you think they protected O-line because they're the most vulnerable to getting poached?

If so (as CW says above), there are a bunch of moves planned by the front office. If they were so worried they protected Newman I hope he's on the block (pun intended). I think he fit in nicely down in Chi Town.

Clearly building for the future, over for the current.-
Gutey had No choice. He put this team in Cap Hell.
The best FA signings brought us back. The All in.
(The Smith Brothers, Turner, etc. )
What was old has become New again. The TT way.
Youth -Upside and potential = Don't be afraid of change.
The 22 of 24 explains the odds. And being cheap.
But this movement along the DL has been long over Due.
Including getting the fastest WRs too late.
Too much is put on one star and not the position.
And thats clearly what we saw again with the CBs.
Then there is always one star that is nursing something.
Yes- Bahk needs to be traded now. - Or 11 OL says too many.
But regardless how many guys look promising.
The bust rate has shown its ugly face in Green Bay.
And Gutey doesn't fill the needs until the season is OVER.

One thing the roster suggests is that maybe Rich Bisaccia does not have quite as much pull as we may have thought. Dallin Leavitt and Tariq Carpenter made the roster purely on special teams ability, but some of the other special teams guys got cut: Innis Gaines, Corey Ballentine, Shemar Jean-Charles, and Patrick Taylor. No replacement TE was brought in for special teams ace Tyler Davis. Eric Wilson is on there, but he is the fourth best ILB anyway. The roster is heavy at D-line and OLB, which are not positions where you get a lot of special teams players. Maybe not any. The only one of the six wide receivers who is important to the special teams is Jayden Reed, who will be the punt returner. Bisaccia has a lot of coaching to do to get the special teams up to speed.

I would've kept McGough. There is the idea that if McGough clears waivers, the Packers will sign him to the practice squad. My thought is that McGough will be signed by another team especially after his showing at the Seattle game. What little I saw of McGough, I liked him better than Sean Clifford. Plus McGough has the great USFL experience.

I'm remembering the huge mistake that Packers made in 2017 cutting Taysom Hill.

I'm thinking that once Orzech is signed as the LS Newman will be moved which gets us down to the more expected 10 OLs. Beyond that another OL or Edge player could be moved when Stokes is ready to return (at some point in the season) which gets the Packers back to 5 CBs.

Any of the safeties could be moved if Gute signs an actual NFL Safety off the cutdowns today. A TE signing is another possibility along with a Vet WR.

This is a process and we're still in the early stages before we get to the final 53. A few more moves and a few days yet to go. Thanks, Since '61

The "4 CB" is the real eyebrow raiser. I never saw that coming. It's nothing to lose two or even three in a single game...it's scary to think of the Packers moving safeties out to the perimeter in coverage.

That said, I think they'll elevate a Ballantine or SJC (or whatever of the 2-3 CBs they'll have on the PS) for ST work the first few weeks to fill as a 5th CB at least until Stokes can play.

These anticipated moves don’t really address the gamble at corner,safety and tight end. Unless someone of significant value is traded for a considerable upgrade at any of theses positions it’s still bottom feeding for this roster. Maybe that’s just fine. The cap space is limiting and our competitors know it and some will be in similar situations.

It will be fun for us Pack fans to grow & develop with '24 version of this team. Oh, there will be speedbumps & maybe a detour but, grab a drink & brat sit back and enjoy. GPG!!!

I expect to see at least two CBs on the PS. With Alexander, Douglas, and Valentine, we have three high/starter quality CBs; they only have to last four weeks, until Stokes returns. In the meantime, the PS guys are there is someone or two gets injured.

I'm a big fan of McGough, and hope he makes the PS, but he's still the #3 QB, and older than Love and Clifford.

I'm really hoping DuBose goes to our PS; I still believe he's (potentially) equal to Doubs/Heath/Wicks as a possession receiver.

I think one of the young OTs will be dangled as trade bait for someone's C/OG, to replace Newman. In the meantime, Walker/Nijman/C Jones could be our tackles next year (with Tom going to center, please, please, please...)

Pretty sure they're counting on #21, the fastest man on the team and by a wide margin, returning from injury. He was on the field 8/1. So they're thinking they have 5 at CB.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tyler Goodson and Patrick Taylor are retained, PS at first, and called up as needed. I think #39 could have an impact, not like #33 but bouncing around everywhere as a legitimate checkdown threat.

We'll see ...

"My prediction highlights: Whelan over O'Donnell, as few had this right. Also, getting the S, DL, WR and OL group exact (except for Tenuta technically, who will be IR'd today) Keeping Jonathan Ford. Brenton Cox making the team, Tarvarius Moore cut. Royce Newman - to me was a pretty sure thing (sorry). "
The way Newman has looked, I wasn't thinking he'd make the 53.

"My Prediction lowlights: I struggled the most with the defense and it showed. I couldn't fathom only four CBs, making me keep so-so players like Shemar Jean-Charles and Innis Gaines on the roster. I couldn't fathom 6 EDGE rushers, so I cut Hollins against my own wishes. "
One reason for keeping only 4 CB's right now. They will have some on the PS that can be elevated. And they will be getting Stokes back at some point. But they also maybe have their eyes on the waiver wire for someone.
All 6 Edge players deserved to be on the 53. I would assume Cox will be a game day inactive for the first however many games.

The one move I'm a little surprised with is that they didn't keep DuBose. He showed promise after coming back from injury. I personally would have kept him over Newman.

It will be interesting to see what happens when our QB is given nothing but WR's the other guy would have told you are impossible to achieve with because they aren't 4+ year vets.

My prediction: They'll be productive. This group of young WRs will somehow magically learn this supposedly complicated offense well enough to execute by the first few games of the season.

Packers fans that pay close attention are going to learn a whole lot about both the past and the future in 2023.

On a young team, there will be young leaders emerging. I think they will mix well with a solid core of veteran leaders.

Love, Bakht, Jenks, AJ, AJD, Kenny, Gary, Preston, Campbell, Alexander, Douglas...that's a solid veteran core of leadership on the 2023 Packers.

I look forward to seeing who will emerge as leaders from the rookies & sophomores.

Never been a big MLF fan , but with the 12 monkey off his back and the lesser expectations on this team… he may do well. I wish we had a better DC, but we don’t.
A winning record would be a feather in MLFs cap. I think it’s achievable. There is no pressure on this team(except on the DC).
MLF has crumbled under pressure in the past, so I look forward to a good season.

Packers inquired about Colts RB Jonathon Taylor? That's now being reported.

If true, indicates the 2023 Packers may be looking to win games this season.

the supposed trade for Taylor involved Dillon , he's probably not happy about that.