After Further Review: Packers vs. 49ers

Ross will provide a few observations every Monday afternoon following a Packers game based on a few viewings of the condensed version of the game on NFL GamePass.  While this might not be the All-22 camera deep dive that might be more "educational", it should provide a conversation point for the rest of the week.

This week, though, we have All 22 baybay.

Aaron Rodgers, man.  He isn't a perfect player, and he wasn't perfect in this game but it's a gift to watch him.  It is an absolute gift.  I know this sounds emotional from a film review standpoint but I hope you guys really enjoy these next six or seven seasons, whatever it may be.  He's one of the greats in the history of our game and it might not look pretty this season but I really get the sense that Gute is reshaping the roster for the glory years.

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Ross Uglem is a staff writer for Cheesehead TV. He can be found on Twitter @RossUglem 

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GBPDAN1's picture

October 17, 2018 at 01:37 pm

I felt a little bit better ( but not to much better) about our run D Sunday night when I discovered the 49ers are the 3rd best rushing team in the league at approximately 150 yards per game, Just behind the Rams ( Gurley) and Cowpies ( Zek ).

Having 2 weeks off should provide help regarding injuries- Arod, Cobb, Alison, Our Guards, Alexander, Breeland , etc.

I'll be at the next game against the Rams. I hope we play respectful football as our questionable HC will have 2 weeks to game plan....sigh

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dobber's picture

October 17, 2018 at 02:21 pm

Give SF credit: they played hard for a 1-4 team. They took it to the Packers. Breida runs hard when he can stay on the field. The SF OL was getting off the ball well. They acted like they liked their jobs...

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Tundraboy's picture

October 19, 2018 at 09:06 am

"They acted like they liked their jobs..."

You nailed it. So that's what's been eating at me with the Packers. Couldn't put my finger on it

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Razer's picture

October 17, 2018 at 01:39 pm

Good stuff Ross. Thanks for focusing on the positive.

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pacman's picture

October 17, 2018 at 01:40 pm

Talking point:
"the guts of Pettine to bring 7 with the game on the line"
Was this guts or just knowing that if he doesn't, we lose for sure?

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Since '61's picture

October 17, 2018 at 01:55 pm

I would rather rush 7 and try to force the QB into a mistake than rush only 2 or 3 like Capers did and give the QB as much time as he needs to make a play. Thanks, Since ‘61

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4thand1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 12:08 am

I think Pettine said F it, send the house, we can't get there anyway.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 18, 2018 at 04:28 am

Agreed. As it happened, HHCD got a free lane and hit the QB on the play, forcing the pass to get out perhaps a tick too early and to be under
thrown.

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dobber's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:42 am

He really prevented Beathard from stepping into that throw and giving his WR a chance to run under it. I think that if he got more on that throw, the outcome of the play could've been very different.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:33 pm

Anything is possible...but I don't think that #11 for SF is that much faster than King who is also 6'3" and can jump...I think that King with his inside leverage was going to be in great position unless it was thrown outside the right hash mark.

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Daren726's picture

October 20, 2018 at 07:13 am

I think dobber nailed it. The ball was clearly under thrown. That’s because of pressure. No way king can catch up if he hits him in stride. Olympic sprinter speed.

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ILPackerBacker's picture

October 17, 2018 at 02:16 pm

well done!
Would have been nice to hear on whether or not the rookie WR have improved the team over Cobb and Gmo, it seems to me the speed of MVS is forcing changes in coverage.

Or on Dix, a great fumble forced and forcing the throw on King's pick in under 2 seconds.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 17, 2018 at 07:44 pm

I like Brice, but I dont think he should be starting at this point in time. Are there any Veteran FA left out there? We are getting killed with no over the top coverage.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 18, 2018 at 12:36 am

Green Bay already had factored that in when they signed Williams. With picking up Breland, Brice's days as a starter were numbered after the bye. It all depends on health of that group on when they make the switch.

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dobber's picture

October 17, 2018 at 02:19 pm

We keep coming back to Kentrell Brice and the fact that, yes, he can run and, yes, he can hit...but he struggles in coverage. He's stiff. He's late to react. He's a downhill safety...they have a couple of those.

At this stage, they almost have to ask TWill or Breeland or someone with some coverage instincts to start playing CF. TWill has played some safety in the past. I know people here have been critical of conversion projects--especially mid-season--but this defense is going to struggle downfield until they find a way to patch those leaks.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 17, 2018 at 03:53 pm

Agreed 100%.

Capers wouldn't have done it for sure, but mayyyybe Pettine will? Breeland is who I would pick and I would tell him that if he played well, he'd get a nice FS contract offer here before free agency started. Tramon is just too valuable as a CB. You need 4 good ones in today's NFL and I want the vet leading the bunch. Other bonus is moving HHCD to SS. He's big for a free safety anyway, and he won't be back. (I HOPE ANYWAY).

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 18, 2018 at 04:41 am

I kind of thought Breeland was reputed to be a better CB than Twill. I don't care what PFF says. The disparity in contracts tells a different tale, unless it was all based on age.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 01:16 pm

Brice = "struggles in coverage" might be the understatement of the year so far...but your point is well taken. Once Alexander gets healthy...and if King can stay healthy...they will have four/five CBs that they can play in nickel/dime in-order-to keep Kentrell Brice on the bench.

I have no idea what Breeland will bring to the table but I'm convinced that King, Alexander, and Jackson need to be on the field as much as possible when in nickel/dime.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:38 pm

Dobber, you should get at least 100 likes for your comment...unfortunately, I could only give you one.

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Handsback's picture

October 17, 2018 at 02:51 pm

Two areas of concern....Oline and Safety. Neither has a lot of depth and the safety position has a solid starter and marginal guys.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:51 am

Who is this solid starter at safety that you speak of? The last solid starter at safety that I remember is Morgan Burnett. Before him, Nick Collins.

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CJ Bauckham's picture

October 18, 2018 at 12:05 pm

He's probably thinking of haha. I'm thinking of whitehead. Lol

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jlc1's picture

October 17, 2018 at 03:00 pm

Echoing that this is yet another on the spot analysis. Especially on the CM sack. I saw the interior dline push their guys back so that not only could the QB not step up but he was far enough up field to meet CM where he had been pushed. I think it is both a coverage sack and an interior line sack that CM took advantage of. So, yeah, he's not "back".

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Lphill's picture

October 17, 2018 at 03:43 pm

Breeland has safety experience I think that's the plan.

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Doug Niemczynski's picture

October 17, 2018 at 07:45 pm

We need someone bad and right now.

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PatrickGB's picture

October 17, 2018 at 09:21 pm

I think we DO have somebody bad already.

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Daren726's picture

October 20, 2018 at 07:19 am

LOL

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Packer Fan's picture

October 17, 2018 at 08:58 pm

This is what I would like to see coming out of the bye.

1) MM start calling short passes in rhythm and work into longer developing plays. And for gosh sakes, if the defense is blitzing, don't line up in tight formations. Open things up to let AR and OL deal easier with the blitzers. And adjust faster. Don't wait for quarters before changing.

2) Move Tramon Williams to safety in place of Bryce. Then start Breeland, King and Alexander.

3) Stop the stupid penalties, especially on special teams. Morrison and Brown should be inactive the next game.

4) Pettine, you laid an egg for this last game. Adjust faster. And rein in the young players from taking stupid penalties.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:28 pm

"This is what I would like to see coming out of the bye.

1) MM start calling short passes in rhythm and work into longer developing plays."

I'm not sure what the actual success rate was but I'm pretty sure they've already tried what you're suggesting. As far as AR12 vs the blitz...he must identify it quicker than he has instead of freezing/holding the ball and then taking the sack/intentional grounding/throw away.

#2- I agree with you 100% regarding replacing Brice at safety. I would love to see one safety (HHCD) and four CBs as the standard nickel...but if using two safeties, then it's HHCD & Whitehead. I think Tramon should still receive PT as the 5th DB/S...but if they're only using four DBs (why?) then it's HHCD, King, Alexander, and Jackson/TW/Breeland.

#3 that's on the players. Tony Brown has great measurables and supposedly was a very good ST player at Alabama. He's fast (supposedly sub-4.4 forty) and quick but has been over-aggressive on his two penalties...but then I'd have to mention officiating which is another story in itself...

#4 I don't think Pettine laid the egg...granted as the DC, he get's the egg on his face but it's the players that laid the egg and cracked it! OK, the young players (besides #29) that have had 15 yard penalties include Jackson (twice if I remember correctly) and King...how do you want to reign-in these two?...i.e., what's the suggested corrective measure(s)?

Just sayin...JMO

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Johnblood27's picture

October 18, 2018 at 12:47 am

didnt Tony Brown get a taunting penalty for doing exactly the same thing that DBahk did on the play you highlighted in the walking over the opponent after knocking him down on the sideline?

I love the clip, but my point is how shoddy the NFL officiating has been vs the Packers all season.

Brown didnt deserve a flag for what he did, just as DBahk didnt get one.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 18, 2018 at 07:58 am

Great point! I didn't catch that before.

Yes he did the exact same thing as Brown.

Completely agree about officials. They have been horrendous and highly inconsistent.

Even the Brown penalty this week they said the player had 1 foot in bounds when he made contact.

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TXCHEESE's picture

October 18, 2018 at 04:33 pm

It was close, but after committing a dumb penalty the week before, you would have thought Brown would pull up a bit on that play. If he would have done that, he probably avoids the flag. That damn near cost the Packers the game. He's a talented player, but he's got to reign it in some.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:36 pm

IMO both of Brown's 15 yard penalties have been questionable...but it is what it is...shit happens...the refs suck...rant off.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 10:56 am

I always look forward to your weekly "after further review" blog!

No doubt Aaron Rodgers is a gift!...he's been a gift from the day he was drafted. IMO, He was perfect when it counted vs the 49ers. I also believe AR12 will play for at least six more seasons and I, like you, will enjoy them. Regarding AR12's 2018 season so far, yeah he's missed his fair share of plays (which includes missed throws and poor decisions)...but maybe this win will ignite something in him to make better decisions. Physically, I think he's adjusted to the brace and it allows him to practice which is key for him to be able to become more consistent and learn how to work better with Jimmy Graham, Marques Valdez-Scantling, and Equanimeous St. Brown. I don't think AR12's greediness regarding the big play will ever change but that's the double-edged sword that makes him what he is... It still blows my mind that I was able to watch Brett for all those years and then the torch was passed to Aaron...just blows my mind.

I might sound crazy but unless they're 99.9% healthy, I'd be ok if Cobb and/or G-Mo have to sit out the Rams game. I think both EQ & MVS are ready and capable of playing right now...the NFL game is not too big for either guy. They will make some mistakes along the way the rest of the season but I definitely believe they'll make many more plays than mistakes.

I was ecstatic when the Packers signed Jimmy Graham. I think he's played well enough so far in 2018 and will get better as the season progresses. 6'7" is hard to defend and he's still got decent enough speed for his size.

Ross Uglem: "Davante Adams is that dude. If you're going around saying he's a product of Aaron Rodgers, you're just not paying attention anymore. His feet might be the best in football (Antonio Brown comes to mind as well). He's an elite level player. Not a good player, an elite level player."
-- I concur that Davante Adams is not a product of Aaron Rodgers. Currently (statistically), he's #3 in receptions, tied for #1 in reception TDs, and #9 in receiving 1st downs. Those are elite numbers. He passes the eye test for me with flying colors. The only knock on him is his lack of game-changing speed IMO. Physical talent wise I think he's as good as Dez Bryant ever was. Dating back to 1968, I'd place Davante in my top five Packers WRs behind Sterling Sharpe, James Lofton, Jordy Nelson, and Donald Driver (longevity). I anticipate that the #12/#17 combo will accumulate some gaudy numbers during their remaining time together.

I think that once Breeland and (especially) Alexander get healthy it'll affect Kentrell Brice's PT. I think/hope Mike Pettine realizes that Brice simply cannot handle centerfield or any deep/last line of defense responsibility. Brice is more of a box player. Not sure which CB will be the best choice to play CF/FS but they need to find out and stop with the Brice experiment at centerfield. HHCD, King, Alexander, Josh Jackson, Tramon Williams, and Whitehead should be the dime DBs. Brice can be the 7th DB when they go to that package as long as he's not playing deep.

"The pass rush ain't much." Pettine doesn't send more than five rusher very often...but I get your point... For as much as CHTV members harp on CM3 and Nick Perry, I think Mike Daniels deserves criticism too. He's got to play better and provide more impact than he has to date in 2018. If Daniels was as impactful as Kenny Clark (or close to being)...the defense would look so much better.

I don't know what "I'm the biggest Aaron Jones stan on the planet" means but I concur that if he doesn't get his shit cleaned up in the pass game it will cost him reps.

"Kevin King was really, really good on Monday." No doubt and IMO, it was his best NFL game to date. If he can stay healthy I think someday he'll challenge Xavier Rhodes as the best CB in the division (and NFL).

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ILPackerBacker's picture

October 18, 2018 at 11:38 am

That was great and well written. Thank you yet I think you need to add in that nobody outside Adams on your receiver list got to play without double teams. Nobody is scheming Adams away, they are taking Graham away.

And, in the last couple of games you can see the defense adjusting to cover MVS's speed, something Cobb and Gmo lack.

Adams is not just a creature of Rodgers creation, but that is the largest part of it and this year there is no better example of a WR maximizing his talent and effort than Adams. At the same time you need to credit the other people providing him single coverage opportunity.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 01:05 pm

Thanks!

I don't know if teams have tried to double Davante that often or not...but he has consistently drawn the opposing defense's top cover corner (e.g., Xavier Rhodes, Darrius Slay, etc.). Yes, AR12 helps make him better but the reverse is also true (albeit to a much lesser extent).

There's no question that opposing teams have paid lots of attention to Jimmy Graham. It's hard for a defense to double more than one guy and it's almost impossible for one DB to cover Graham...

No doubt speed kills which is why MVS will be used more and more as the season progresses. I think he's clearly the #4 WR (not counting Graham) with the potential to be #2 in the not too distant future.

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TXCHEESE's picture

October 18, 2018 at 04:43 pm

"Dating back to 1968, I'd place Davante in my top five Packers WRs behind Sterling Sharpe, James Lofton, Jordy Nelson, and Donald Driver (longevity)." You missed the most obvious one of all, JEFF FRIGGIN JANIS! LOL. There's a chance Adams rises significantly on this list over the next couple of seasons. One thing I think he does better everyone on your list, is make the contested catches. He does it so often, I'm shocked he doesn't.

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cpheph1's picture

October 18, 2018 at 06:54 pm

Well...Sterling will always be my #1 favorite...if not for his career ending injury, there's no doubt in my mind he'd be in the HOF. His brother, who is in the HOF said he's the 2nd best football player in their family....

...plus, it's my list...just sayin'.

Will Davante move-up?...probably but top 5 is pretty damn good IMO.

Sterling Sharpe made a lot of contested catches...and he was a true work-horse WR.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/career-receiving.htm

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