Agree, Bure. If we can protect our QB, we shouldn’t need a bunch of elite WRs. We’re using the RBs and the TEs....that #2 WR is usually either a blocker or a decoy.

I would like more running and better blocking for our offensive backfield. I think that’s a priority over another target for the passing game.

Rodgers needs two reliable WRs and much better production out of the tight ends. Don't forget that Brees also has Cook (who we obviously should have retained), and that the Patriots have usually had better defenses, special teams, and always the best coaching staff.

Just right Bure, AR has more targets than most other QBs. Besides TEs of course. It was never about the WRs and no widout or widouts in the world would change a thing......
We just need a average play from our signalcaller. That should be more than needed….

Couldn't have said it better. Gute gets a redo on Graham next year, let's hope that produces an even better group around him without any more $ spent on the offense

"Brady had Edelmen and Gronk and a bunch of UDFA and won a super bowl."

Look, Brady is great and could be considered the mythical GOAT quarterback. I'd say that Rodgers, statistically, has outperformed him almost every single year he's been the starting QB - both in the regular season and the postseason. And he's usually done it with even less.

As for Edelman and Gronk, Edelman is open on almost every play, and competes like a madman. He's at least comparable to Adams as a receiver. The Packers have never had a TE who is in the same universe as Gronk, and rarely had one who is in the same vicinity as even the 20th best TE in the NFL. Add a D that is consistently as good or better as the 2019 Packers D over the years and better coaching, and that has helped Brady enormously through the years.

The resentment of Rodgers around this forum is mind-boggling to me.

Possibly but this does not account for Rodgers underthrowing Kumerow deep for a pick, when Kumerow had his man beat. Overthrowing Jones horribly 3 times, once for an easy TD, and overthrowing Ervin for a sure TD. Yes Graham is awful, as is Allison. But he still has enough, those 2 should not be on the field.

It's strange that it's the same WR corp that played together all year, and yet, they had games where they scored many TDs. The same WRs also played together in MN, a game where the offense looked just fine.

All those WR woes don't change a QB blatantly off target with throws.

You cant find somebody more speedy as MVS and he is also a bigger target than most, just like St. Brown.
Both were open last year a lot as AR forces the ball to Adams, time and time again. Dont know anyone can blame that on the WR. When it was wrong last year ist even more clear witch end of the pass is the problem. Dont know what the WR have to do with it......

Kumerow is a good blocker and has decent hands. The deep ball thrown to him could have been a big gainer but AR under threw him. I dont see him as the problem. Allison and MVS along with Graham have been dropping balls all year long. Aaron has been off a bit at times to add to the issues. I dont see Graham or Allison on the team next year. MVS will be given another shot but the Packers will bring in a speedy prospect to compete with him so next years WR and TE group should have a few new faces, we hope.

Hell yes, they' gotta be the "the real deal a 13-3 record indicates they are".

Five of those wins (by a combined 33 points) came against teams that'll be drafting 2nd, 3rd., 4th, and 5th in the 2020 draft ! But they lost to the Chargers (who're tied for 5th) by 15 so you could deduct that making it 18 points.
Then they blew out the Panthers (picking 7th) by a whopping 8 points and lost to the 49ers by 29. Five more of their wins came against two teams at 7-9 (Den & Oak), 2 against the 8-8 Bears and 1 against the 8-8 Cowboys.

Hmmmm, that's 10 wins against $hitty teams without winning records and they lost to the 9-7 Eagles!
Their other 3 wins were against Minnesota (twice, once without their top 2 running backs) and the Chiefs without Patrick Mahomes.

Guessin' I'm one of those you mention who thinks they're pretenders!

Edit: Thanks for the thumbs down! It's OK, I know your sugar coated world is easier to swallow than the facts!

I wasn't going to bother writing on this topic any more but this is ridiculous. AR used to be spot on with so many deep throws, droping them on WR's hand in stride, threading the needle, etc. And those back shoulder throws! He definitely USED to be the best of the best.

Unfortunately, most of that is now history. The overthrows are one thing. But the underthrows and behind throws are scary interceptions waiting to happen and have taken away many immediate TDs if he would have led them correctly.

But But But But Eason Qb WA. And wouldn't Lazard make a better TE? Because he will only get replaced if the packers take that WR rd. 1.

They haven't thrown a single pass to a TE picked in the 3rd round while trotting out rhinoceros Graham. They also keep playing two of the statistically worst receivers in football in Allison and MVS and it took Rodgers pushing for Lazard before he was finally given some playing time. The coaches need to be better. With Allison, MVS and Graham playing so poorly why hasn't Sternberger been given a chance? Why hasn't Ryan Grant played a snap? There are coaches who coach based solely on practice and don't realize that some players are only good practice players. There's also the difficulty of replacing a starter, and MLF and his offensive coaching staff haven't shown the fortitude to be able to do that. Give Rodgers a legit receiver who can get open and catch while Adams is being double-teamed and this would be a different offense. And Rodgers wouldn't need to be defended.

The one-ring circus has left town. Randall Cobb is gone. New timing. New scheme. Playoff time means run the ball down their throats and stop their running game. The QB has to make a couple Big Plays in these games to win them.
Rodgers doesn't have to carry the whole load as with muc Carthy's show.

Well stated and you made an excellent point. They were running a better balanced offense when Adams was hurt. So why can't they repeat that? Spread the wealth. It worked before. It will work again.

He will be long gone by the time GB picks. Top 5-10 player

Sorry Albert, no can do!
My x-wife's name is Judy! :)

Does Rodgers call for the substitutions during the game or is it the OC - LaFleur? The 5 wide could be a result of not having Vitale or Jamal Williams available.

I would like to hope that he really tries hard to work wit mvs because its obvious he has talent and speed. He is a young kid playing with a 36 year old superstar. Weve witnessed him make multiple plays early this year and last. Its obvious his problems are mental. He caught one pass 2 weeks ago. Two passes this week. I hope he steps up cus we need all the help we can get against drew brees. (Most likely)

He's regressed in the legs and possibly the accuracy, although the latter is probably more in his head/ego. Which can be fixed. If it's not, however, I think we're stuck with him until after 2021. Which is too bad because the D is going to peak around then I think...

Either way, the time is now, or at the very latest next year, to draft his replacement.

Seemingly horrible, horrible, horrible call for offensive pass interference after the Badgers appeared to convert on a critical third down.
Highly skeptical of the explanation/rationalization given by the broadcast official.
Those Ducks on defense seemed to hit brutally hard on just about every play; excellent play calling by the Badgers on offense helped a great effort that came up a little short.
If the Packers fight like Badgers, and think like Badgers, can be a force in the playoffs.

Best post of the day. Rodgers did miss wide-open receivers, but most of his overthrows were reasonable in that the receiver was so closely covered if he underthrew there would likely be an interception. That's what happened on the Kumerow play. Rodgers toned down his throw because Kumerow isn't that fast and wasn't really that open but Rodgers felt he'd at least win the jump ball. Those who argue he's lost his skills need only look at the TD to Lazard. A perfect throw. The toss to Jones on the screen, in traffic. The nice easy pass to Adams for a TD. Rodgers can still throw as well if not better than anyone. I think the Packer offense will explode against the Saints, now that Lazard is solidly in place as the #2 receiver, and as long as Allison and MVS are solidly in place on the bench. I think Sternberger will be a surprise option. And I think Ervin will be there in the slot on a good number of plays. Basically, I think MLF has figured out what he has and "It's time!"

"To act like you want Tim Boyle in the game instead of AR is ridiculous."

Nobody wants that, that is nonsense. Rodgers is missing throws, badly at times. If he wants safe throws maybe he can use the middle of the field where his stats are still excellent in the rarity he does it. Drew Brees does it, Tom Brady too. Those guys learned to adjust their games as they aged. I expect AR to do so as well, but a 13-3 season is a lousy time to be stubborn over it.

This stuff is like listening to the BF fans in the late 0's.

Your frame is all wrong. Rodgers is being ask to run a play action base offensive scheme. The key in running it is not the WR, but the run game. Go back and watch the all-22 of the Lions game. The difference between the first and second half is stark. First half the Lions were not biting on the play fakes. Why? Because Rodgers was going deep, every chance he got. With the Lions in cover three every deep shot was covered to one degree or another. Second half, A. Jones in the run game with the O line punching holes with the outside zone action. That forced the ILB in and left huge voids in the soft middle which Rodgers exploited with his WR. The reality is Rodgers is not good enough to take the deep shots every time. But, if he runs the offense, with the run game then he will have the time to set and throw. And when he does that, even on a bad day like Detroit he is lethal. He is not good enough to free lance anymore.

Couldn't agree more 4thand1, and I'm hoping that some hurry up offense will create the spark in the playoffs . Play Like CHAMPIONS !!! Go Pack !!!!

La Fleur should look up Walsh's playbook when he schemed Jerry Rice out of double and triple teams for the catch.