Should we out you on suicide watch?

At least you're not blaming the refs. Baby steps

That's a ridiculous take.

For some of these guys, winning is EVERYTHING to the point of being unhealthy. Grown men cry in the locker room after tough losses.
People lose jobs, sometimes people's dreams die.

Yes, there's a certain number of guys in the league that play football only because it's their ticket to financial freedom, or simple stability, and it's just a job to them.. and there's nothing wrong with that. Most of us out here in "the real world" only go to work because it's how we earn and survive.

But the great majority of guys who work in the NFL- players and certainly coaches- do it because they love the game, and they want to win.

Get a grip man.

If you really think the organization, staff, and players really don’t care, find another team. Or maybe you are already a bears fan. What a joke

Lare
Full of despair
Questioning the care
Of nearly everyone everywhere

Don’t lose hope
Learn to cope
Maybe the yuletide
Will provide
A tie, or soap on a rope

Nixon & Hobbs suck that's the answer.Hobbs has been a huge waste of $.Before the season started many GB fans wanted the CB group upgraded & clearly it didn't happen.

Nixon is a back up CB at best IMHO. Classic cock up!

Hobbs had his best game of the season, and Nixon was beat by a quarter-step on a perfect throw on the game-winner. (BTW, check out Quay's blitz for a sack, but his jersey stretched 2 feet behind doesn't draw a hold call. In a Sunday game they said that will get you a call every time. Apparently not.)

Doubs has to recover that onside. But replays show Melton and Jacobs (who hadn't been in the game for injury for more than a bit, why was he in there?) didn't do a anything to block and Doubs wilted under the guys crashing down. Too bad because if he just grabs it, refs will protect him. Fumble and you're getting drilled.

Thanks, I really needed that. Perfect sentiment.

That was awesome. Well done !!

If there was ever the PERFECT comment left after a Packers loss THIS was IT!!!

Thank you Taryn...Well done!

Your best post ever!

You’re nuts. Plan and simple. I’m officially kicking you off the Packer bandwagon until you stop being hysterical.

Hammer meet nail. Well said NFL.

Until they lose any chance of the playoffs I won’t give up hope of winning a SB…..this could be 2010 all over with the Packers and the Bears!! Yahoo….let’s GPG.

Sorry but I have a hard time blaming the coaches or players for losing. Sh*t happens. We played and coached hard and really out played the Bears. Just too bad we lost this one and the way we lost it.

Packers are winning with two best players out maybe best 3 not playing

This season isn’t over yet

16 other teams if not 20 other teams.
You wouldn’t be commenting know because the season would be over.

You get to comment now because they are good. Year after year….

That was Chicago biggest game for 14 years or 15 years

A little hiccup

Happy Holidays but maybe this could also tide you over. They took a huge punch in the mouth in Denver. I and others think they responded well to that, taking the game to the Bears repeatedly. Will they respond well again next week? I have more belief they can after this one.

When Dobbs cowered in fear knowing he was gonna get hit hard and focused on protecting himself and not the ball I knew then, it was over. Way too much time for Williams to carve up Nixon and Valentine..

Happy holidays and Merry Christmas to all!!!

Ot taking 3 was the game

Jeez, I hate it when fans find "moral" victories from losses. This was a huge game that should have been won. It was a classic choke job by numerous players. And a good team would have won it.

Right Dobby—so many times this year we should’ve/could’ve blown teams out. We can’t seem to climb that hill.

When they continue to do things like that it’s ridiculous not to look at the coaching and culture. LaFleur is what he is and his teams will never overcome that.

Ya 3 minutes on poor play cost you a game you dominated.

And that is why I still feel the Packers have a fighting chance! We beat ourselves and haven’t been blown out. Correct the mistakes and anything can happen.

Indeed!!!

right after that game I thought of the tent...under pressure

What do fans like you and Green Bay have in common? Don't make me answer that.

They all easily fold !!

I could not believe he was not tossed from the contest. Kinnard's M.O. is lead feet and a lack of intensity.
The O line shuffle goes back to the NFCCH game, the Divisional melt down, last year when Jenkins was dinged and yesterday. Unfortunately, a pattern of malpractice.

"Austin Booker"

Booker's second tackle was rightly called roughing the passer due to the rules on hits to the head. But that wasn't even close to a cheap shot or dirty play. Booker's tackle would have been at Love's chest, but Love dropped his head, resulting in the hit. Just watch the video.

The first tackle, it's very debatable if that was roughing. Booker extended his arm out to avoid fully landing on Love.

So I think you're confused about what a dirty play looks like, so let me help you. Here you go:

https://youtu.be/RRoVXgieS3A?si=RHLEjzL1elrXH-8m

THAT is what a dirty play looks like.

You're welcome.

"he was clearly head hunting"

Wrong. Just look at the video: Love was conceding the sack and had both hands on the ball and was in the process of laying down instead of risking a turnover. It was actually a smart move.

At the same time Love was lowering his head, Booker came in at what would have been about chest-high and instead hit him in the helmet.

The 15 yard penalty was justified, but it wasn't dirty.

The only truly dirty play that game was the hit-in-the-back by Nixon on Moore, and it was sweet, sweet, SWEET justice that Moore burned that guy for a TD.

Booker’s play is a reflection of his Coach . It is the culture Johnson is cultivating in Chicago . Get used to it .tt

Gotta upgrade the GM/HC-success starts at the top.

---Won't happen

Doubs should not be on ST's. He's a valuable receiver and has been, overall, the most reliable wr all season.

I agree on Doubs. He got intimidated from the hit that was coming. Nixon? When he's not roughing other players, he ignores routine coverages. Just an overpaid backup CB on any other team. These are not championship pieces of a good team. But they appear to be all we've got.

A team is only as good as its weakest players...

Ya what is it that all Dobbs rotes seem to be along the sidelines?Are his routes never in the middle where he might get creamed. I say every time he sees defenders breathing down on him he drops the ball to avoid being hit.

Brinson is in there do to injury and he reached for the jersey or the shoulder pad and his hand just got stuck in the helmet. It wasnt intentionally and could happen to anyone.

Give the kid a break.

the blatant face mask on, what was it 3rd and 20? That was another massive error...just things the Packers seem to do in crunch time...thats enough talk about playoffs for me this year, if they make it they aint going far anyway...

fresh air is needed today, try to stop replaying many of the worst plays over again in my head...was a tough night of sleep that's for sure....

Doubs isn't a mis match,
There is no size with him, in the red zone.
He's In a contract year ,and thats the best he'll be.
Unfortunately he's been behind too many drops.
Not to mention head problems.
And now a blown game!.
We drafted WRs. .
I only have eyes for Doubs must stop.
Time to sit Doubs.

Were you getting 10 wins? WE can't beat the Vikes at there home with this secondary. I see two losses and a golfing trip for the pack.

IMO lefleur goes soft in the red zone. Two ones and a screen he never ask Love to pass into the end zone.. My only possible guess is Love screws this up so had in practice LeFleur has no faith in him inside the 20. I have no ther explanation!

Except for the fact that in all of those other examples there was still plenty of game to play. Had Doubs fielded that kick the way he should have you go into kneel down time and off to the locker room with a win.

Is it all on him? No. Is the most critical mistake at the worst possible time of the many other mistakes on him? Yeah, it is.

Too bad for him because he was having a really good game up to that point. Too bad for him because he has had some very good games in the last few years. Too bad for him that when he likely moves on the things most will remember him for are this play and the tantrum episode which got him sat.

Will it be a much different team next year? We don't know if Ed Policy has a sense of urgency or if he'll be just another MM and say that "everything is fine"?

For us fans that want to see a truly, competitive team, I hope Policy is the anti-Murphy. We need culture change from the well-heeled owner/fans who are just happy with good tailgate parties. We need a real GM who can give his HC good players and fix player gaps urgently, not just ignore them. We need a HC who can adapt quickly. Whether it's a new GM and/or a new HC, we need a better culture not hamstrung by one of these 2...

WE NEED CHANGE AT THE TOP!!!

Of course it's on Dobbs. With all our mistakes. We were still winning, ahead and had the clock on our side to run it out. He put the Bears back in the game at an ideal place on the field and plenty of time on the clock..He catches the ball game over were in the playoffs.

Yes, it's LaFleur's fault Jacobs fumbled at the goal line and Doubs mishandled the onside kick.

He's one of the winningest coaches of all time.

With MLF as HC we are good, but never great. His play calling at times is amazing then…poof. Gone. Predicable. Use or non-use of timeouts, a head scratcher.

Purportedly last night MLF didn’t even know why Jacobs wasn't on the field after the fumble? What?

Inability to hold his staff accountable is ridiculous.

It’s time for a change, if this organizations goal is to truly win another SB.

If “good ‘nuff” is the Packers goal then I guess we are stuck.

Hopefully we can sneak into the playoffs to extend our season, but Super Bowl with MLF at the helm? Forget it.

GPG

This isn't all on LaFleur. He's got to use what his GM gives him. But yes, this cozy, nostalgic Lombardi culture must change IF winning a championship is supposedly important. I hate reading about these well-heeled fans/owners who can't stand any critics of their team!! This team is flawed. It is NOT structurally sound - from its culture to its GM and HC. One of those 2 have to leave to allow it to be repaired.

My favorite from MLF is we need to learn from this loss . Problem is the losses and the reasons for the losses remain the same . Nobody learns a damn thing . Same mistakes , play calls , poor tackling , red zone failures . This is what defines a MLF coached team .

Compare LF to the new Bare-ass HC who has turned the culture around in a year. It has taken all this time for LF to get his players playing hard, but the OL is just now closing in on solid. I attribute a lot of the changes in team attitude to Hafley. LF is still not there yet with his offense. His play calling is now decent except he has no idea what to do in the Red Zone. Hafley instilled discipline and taught his D how to tackle in short order; he showed that he knows what to do. Hafley for HC. LF for some AFC team.

People are payed millions to catch those balls. They practice it or should. Dobbs fd it up trying to protect his ass instead of catching the dam ball. He lost the game that was already won.

Some team is going to ;)

Yeah and you’re hitting the lottery next week

Snap the ball more like snap the losing streak

So my off-season Packers wish - No Status Quo.

My ideal after season scenario would be to dismiss LaFleur - hire Haffley as HC - then completely re-work the O with some new coaches - especially the O-line.

As to Gutekunst - I'm open to new ideas, perspectives and thinking from another GM.

What is wrong with you people? The Packers are, in fact, right now, in play off contention.

The Packers have made the playoffs in 5 of the last 6 seasons (2022 season being the miss).

It's like silly things like facts and language don't matter at all.

So basically replace everyone?

The lions secondary played as well as the Packers the past few weeks and these guys are 3rd/4th stringers off the practice squad. Many were playing their first game as a lion or anything.
Valentine and Nixon are key targets for offensive coordinators.
They know coming in the weak links.

Ars you kidding me on the WRs? They're overburdened with talent there. DE too. There's no-one you could realistically trade for or draft in tge second that is improving those rooms.

Isn't there enough of a sample size from both MLF/Gute--7 years?
They will either be re-signed this year or let go. Policy doesn't want a lame duck HC/GM in their last year.
If one watches Policy's interviews on Youtube, he has already said he wishes to follow in Mark Murphys's footsteps. He gives no indication, he will fire Gute-MLF might be more vulnerable.

I don't think fans appreciate enough that success starts at the top. There are numerous problems with both Gute and MLF that don't get fixed and are amplified every season.

Oy-Vey.

Neither, just like he didn't cover anyone the last 2 weeks.

Who's fault is that?
Packers sold the lie that Nixon and Valentine were CB 1's If you disagreed, you'd receive a quick body blow. 90% of posters on this site drank that kool-aid-just like the other one--team going to the SB

I think it looked more intentional because the same guy had also very purposefully driven Love into the ground earlier, clearly hoping to hurt him and knowing he would be penaluzed. One very dirty play followed by another close call dirty play is the beginning of a pattern.
The league will lighten his wallet this week for sure.

Absolutely...and the same player lifted JL and slammed him just before the head shot. Also, Willis was slammed down on his shoulder with intent....Actually, I'm a big Willis fan, he should have played multiple more games last season and let Love heal up so he wasn't a liability in a scramble...It would have also showcased Willis for a possible trade for him also and getting some picks or player for him in exchange.

The culture Johnson is building in Chicago . Dirty football

Perfect description-it is structurally flawed and has been constructed by a man who will not admit mistakes about his choices, nor is he held accountable. LVN, Gary, Morgan, Hobbs, Banks, Amos, Savage, Stokes, etc. are examples.

We are just talking about the truth of the situation-not the spin