Now I'm confused.

All this time, we've been told the reason Rodgers is frustrated and the Packers can't win is because the Packers didn't burn a #1 on a WR.

Now they have more receiver talent than they can keep on the roster.

Where's Skip Bayless or Mike Florio when you need them?

Is that why this team constantly drafts like they have the next 10 years to win a superbowl? You're right, it's a team sport, that's why an individual can't win it by himself. That's on the front office shoulders to give the team the best players that will come together to win. Love the Packers and I'll always be a fan but they're far too conservative when it matters and are consistently happy with just being the 4th best team in the league.

So we should pay Rodgers, Adams, Jones and Bakhtiari to score enough points to win if we have a great defense?

Every playoff loss we’ve experienced in the last decade has involved an offense that underperformed. In our most recent loss, we were held under our season average, at home, despite three takeaways. Our defense outplayed the Tampa defense….fewer yards on the ground, fewer yards in the air, a lower QB rating, more takeaways.

But let’s get the “offense good, defense bad” narrative established, so that when our high power offense doesn’t get it done we know who to blame.

Amen Since ‘61!

Yep. Good hands and the ability take a hit are what we need. IMO.

I totally agree. The front office has proved it over and over and over again that they do not emphasize defense or special teams.
And I don't care that it was just a preseason game yesterday , I will not feel good about this team until I see that the defense and special-teams are indeed improved and championship worthy.

Agree, however CM3 is probably still better than #4 OLB option currently available. Positive is possibly a true desire to win a Championship solidified and driven by past friendships a high motivation factor bought in by all.
Could go either way if one does not accept their role now.

"2. 12 is a massive diva and, as the trolling of Gute just yesterday by 12, Cobb and Bakh prove (CM3 idiocy), there is significant drama behind the scenes that is not going away"

It's these guys running a victory lap, and sadly, more players are participating than just #12. What's next?...swirlies for Kurt Benkert after practice? It does nothing but emphasize the divide between this group of players and management, and point out that the relationship is irreparably broken. There's no way ARod returns after this season...when you show up your boss--and continue to show up your boss--you're usually not-for-long in your job. This time next year, the only one of these three still in town will be Bakhtiari, and after 2022, his contract becomes sheddable, if necessary.

Green Bay was the better defense in the Championship game. They gave up fewer yards in the air, fewer yards on the ground, had more takeaways, and a better opposing QB rating. The offense not only was below average, scoring only 26, but had two huge turnovers that became 14 points. On the season, we held 10of 18 opponents to 21 or less.

The scenario you describe happened once, in the second half against Minnesota. In the other 35 halves of football we played, nobody could get it done against us.

We had 9 turnovers in our 4 losses, and about 5 turnovers in our 14 wins. We scored 30+ points 13 times and were 12-1in those games; when we were held under 30 we were 2-3.

The Texans will be 5-12. GB will double the Texans wins. The Pre-Season has been set up to evaluate the backend of the 70 man roster for the past 20 plus years.

The preseason sets up the practice squad and maybe 5 spots on the 53 man roster.
Come on man.

What you seem to be suggesting is that we need an MVP/HOF QB..AND the best defense in the league. I think the best defense can win even WITHOUT a HOF/MVP QB.

The oft-cited 13th scoring ranking is misleading. In the opener, with a big lead in a game we won handily, we used the 4th quarter to play some guys …because there had been no preseason….and it cost us 24 points. For the other 63 quarters, this was a top six defense.

Look how few teams got more than 21 against us. Look at how few teams scored 30 on us and how many turnovers we gave them.

as much as I am hopeful that Dillon will be an improvement, Jamal Williams was a significant contributor in MANY ways to this offense.

I loved Dillons game vs Tenn, but lets just pump the brakes a bit on his all-world status until he shows that he can pull the wagon over the course of an entire season.

Dont get me wrong, I really, really want to see a bulldozing road grader - with wheels - to complement AJones. I hope that Dillon is that guy. I will bet you that Williams has more yards for Detroit than Dillon has for GB by the end of the season. Not to mention the blocking that Williams unselfishly provided... that matters.

Dillon has some growing to do to fill the shoes of the previous sidekick to AJones, lets not congratulate ourselves too much too early.

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come on man.

Agreed- TT = Jordy Jermichael, Jennings, Cobb, Jones, #88 Ty Montgomery and more offensive lineman All Pro’s than I can count. Like Bahk, Wells, Bulaga, linsley Sitton Lang Etc

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I never saw TT or Gute drop a pass or miss a tackle in their time with the Packers.

Agreed.

I always assumed that the O-line won't be as good as it was last year. Myers is unlikely to be as good as Linsley was in 2020. I hope Myers can be as good as Linsley in Linsley's other years. Turner is not as good as Wagner was, or at least never has been. If Jenkins has to move, I take leave to doubt that whoever replaces him at LG will be as productive. As a minor concern, it is hard to envision Bakh improving, and he is coming off an injury that occasionally inhibits a player long-term, though normally players come back 100% from ACLs given time.

I also am waiting to see how Rodgers and/or Hill actually look in that jet role. Neither really has the pure speed one normally associates with the role. OTOH, both look like they have the burst and running ability.