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Aaron Rodgers hasn't reported yet, but even if he never shows up, the Packers should stll end up in the playoffs this year.

On today's show, Andy Herman takes a look at Mark Murphy's most recent "complicated fella" comment, as well as Adam Schefter's comment that the Packers would be one of the worst teams in the league without Aaron Rodgers. Plus a look at Joe Barry's new defense, and a potential contract extension for MVS.

Love has graduated from practice player to team mouthpiece.