Tramon Williams confirms move to safety
The veteran cornerback is making the switch at the request of defensive coordinator Mike Pettine.
By PackerAaron
Veteran cornerback Tramon Williams confirmed to reporters this afternoon that he will be indeed be the first man up at free safety after the departure of Ha Ha Clinton-Dix.
#Packers CB Tramon Williams said he will play safety Sunday against the #Patriots. He said he might play some corner too, but he is making the switch at the request of Mike Pettine.
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) November 1, 2018
Williams said there are a lot of interchangeable parts in the secondary and that down to down everyone won’t always be playing the same position. But he’s first up to replace Clinton-Dix.
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) November 1, 2018
The 35 year old Williams signed a two-year deal to return to Green Bay this offseason and played cornerback exclusively, up until last week against the Rams. That game saw Williams asked to do some new things, kicking inside on some downs and taking on more safety-like responsibilities.
In 2016, Williams started a handful of games for Pettine at safety while a member of the Cleveland Browns.
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Comments (108)
4thand1
November 01, 2018 at 03:33 pm
Should be a step up.
TKWorldWide
November 01, 2018 at 04:38 pm
Much anticipated.
Never duplicated.
Masterfully orchestrated.
Safety “crisis” alleviated.
This move will be celebrated.
Let’s go get enebriated!
BradHTX
November 01, 2018 at 09:31 pm
I’m past being tense about these things.
Oppy
November 01, 2018 at 10:34 pm
In the present tense?
stockholder
November 01, 2018 at 03:39 pm
Good news.
JonathanSpader
November 01, 2018 at 03:45 pm
I'm excited to see Williams play safety. When he played safety for Pettine with the Browns PFF had him as the highest rated safety. Hopefully he can coach up Jones, Brice, Whitehead, and Green. Hoping to see JJ push Brice for playing time. He had a great ST game last Sunday.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 06:20 pm
The Browns PFF has him rated as the highest safety? Does that really hold water?
JonathanSpader
November 01, 2018 at 08:20 pm
They had HaHa ranked #2 in 2018. Take it for what it's worth lol.
LambeauPlain
November 02, 2018 at 08:04 am
PFF ranks positions AFTER their performance for a season, not during it.
In 2016, during his pro bowl season, they ranked HHCD as the 12th best S.
After 2017 they dropped him to #40.
Seems about right.
dobber
November 02, 2018 at 08:58 am
FS or just S? #40 still ranks you as a starting caliber S....but as far as FS goes, #40 makes you a special teams gunner.
Roadrunner23
November 01, 2018 at 03:52 pm
Thumbs up, hope this extends his career by a few years, the Packers need more guys like him.
Go Pack!
stockholder
November 01, 2018 at 03:54 pm
Blame TT on this. I wanted him to play safety before he left.
dobber
November 01, 2018 at 04:10 pm
Why would TT have paid TWill to play safety when he'd just drafted HHCD and had Morgan Burnett under contract for a couple years, yet?
Besides, if someone told TWill at that point that he could stay with the Packers and be a backup safety making little money, or he could go out on the market to make CB money, which would he choose?
stockholder
November 01, 2018 at 05:08 pm
He wouldn't. It was just before they drafted Ha Ha dix. Shame you don't remember the articles. He refused at that time -
Coldworld
November 01, 2018 at 05:29 pm
I don’t blame him for doing so, and his subsequent career justified that. There is a time for everything and this is probably that time for Williams. It is certainly the time for the Packers given the departure of HHCD and a promising stable if CBs that need playing time to develop.
dobber
November 01, 2018 at 10:52 pm
HHCD was drafted in 2014...TWill left the Packers after the 2014 season.
stockholder
November 02, 2018 at 12:05 am
2104 draft: Why draft a safety, Williams refused and left. Dix - no Brainer because Williams wasn't ready to do it. But then holes at CB - Randall and Rollins. Why draft Adams, = TT wouldn't sign James Jones. #2 they needed a DL. Why draft a reach in Thornton/. Why reach for R. Rodgers. Per ESPN. As it turned out. Adams and Linsey gave this draft success. And janis pushed Adams. But it still took major development and we still brought back Williams and jones. TT made the wrong choice these years. This is where TT became the hard nosed GM. He then cut Sitton and refused to pay lang or Trotter. Not to mention the mistakes with Hayward and Hyde. worthy failed. A Gm can be to hard nosed. Windows closed!! Gute could cost this team another 5 years. Get your back-ups involved. Don't give up on Jones, CmIII, Lowrey, Bulaga ,Spriggs yet. The draft of 2018 may be the best in 8 years. The coaching staff must keep pushing them
dobber
November 01, 2018 at 04:11 pm
"Thumbs up, hope this extends his career by a few years"
...and takes the pressure off the Packers to sign a high end S in free agency or burn a high pick on one.
packerbackerjim
November 01, 2018 at 05:18 pm
Gute will continue to need at least one safety, possibly two. My guess is one FA and the other a 2nd round pick. Is there another Nick Collins lurking out there???
TKWorldWide
November 01, 2018 at 08:21 pm
There are probably lots of “Nick Collinses” our there, but the likelihood of them being early 20’s, 6 feet, 200 lbs, 4.3 40, and mad skillz much more remote.
Packer_Fan
November 01, 2018 at 04:13 pm
I am good with this move and suggested this about two weeks ago. But wanted Brice removed. I saw Williams not able to stay with Goodwin from SF. I see Alexander and King fast enough to stay with speedsters. And this gives Breeland a chance start. Ends up with more physical talent in the secondary. And I would like to see Jones get a chance. I was not impressed with Whitehead last week.
Doug Niemczynski
November 01, 2018 at 04:16 pm
Safety by committee per MM.
Lare
November 01, 2018 at 06:05 pm
Well that ought to kill their production just like MM's running back committee plan.
Demon
November 01, 2018 at 06:21 pm
The Rb by committee worked so well pfft
Community Guy
November 01, 2018 at 04:26 pm
i share some of the optimism of fellow commenters.. i like the idea of a safety group by committee (SGBC?).. the defense can put their best match-ups on the field to stymie opposing offenses.
also, it is refreshing that, thusfar, the corner group hasn't been decimated by injury like in some recent years.. (knock on wood.)
power to the Pettine people!
Lare
November 01, 2018 at 06:09 pm
I disagree about the player-by-committee concept. Put players into a position and play them there.
Chuck Farley
November 01, 2018 at 06:22 pm
Ya you get a lot of people who end up mediocre in both positions. I feel mm and his we draft people who can play multiple positions. Ya passing on talented guys who play one very very well.
Chuck Farley
November 01, 2018 at 06:29 pm
Ya you get a lot of people who end up mediocre in both positions. I feel mm and his we draft people who can play multiple positions. Ya passing on talented guys who play one very very well.
JonathanSpader
November 01, 2018 at 08:26 pm
Chuck you do realize that MM is the HC and doesn't draft players right? Gute drafts athletes and it's on the coaching staff to turn them into good players. Our WRs can line up anywhere which makes them tougher to cover. We have safeties and ILBers that can blitz and move around which makes it harder for offenses to know who is covering who. Also, we don't pass on talented players Gute drafted Alexander who plays slot cornerback. Are you saying he isn't talented?
Barnacle
November 01, 2018 at 09:59 pm
Jonathon
Your explanation of how to get the overall best results by trying to confuse the other team by playing great athletes in several positions is counter intuitive. No one can practice three positions and be as great at all three as they could if they studied every nuance and practiced one position exclusively and played that position to near perfection.
Mashed Potato Mike is responsible for how these players drafted by TT or Gute are trained used and follow orders. Look how MM keeps Aaron Jones under 100 yards per game and Aaron Rodgers fighting for his life after a game should have been put in the W column.
Blaming the refs, the young poorly coached players, the injuries(from playing out of natural and best positions) and “pad levels” are all reflections on BAD HEAD COACHING.
Jack of All Trades, Master of None or Draft and change to unproven areas does not seem wise to me.
JonathanSpader
November 02, 2018 at 12:21 am
The WRs are solely being trained at WR they're just being lined up in multiple spots Barnacle. I think versatility makes you better at what you do. In the jobs I've worked I ha e a better understanding of my role in a company the better I understand other people's roles. For me it's the same in football if I can understand what arouses a slot receiver is running versus a perimeter receiver I can see the field better. I never played WR and this is all purely conjecture on my part based off of what athletes have said in interviews.
As for keeping Aaron Jones under 100 yards per game the debate still goes back to is that on MM or Rodgers? Either way without TY I fully expect Jones to have a few 100+ games through the season. Hyde played safety, perimeter cb, and slot cb. His versatility paid off when he played safety fulltime in Buffalo. Hayward played slot corner in GB and shifted to perimeter with the Chargers. Randall played perimeter CB in GB and shifted to safety with the Browns. They have all had success. Versatility isn't the problem it was Capers not utilizing the players in their best roles partially due to injury partially due to depth/stubbornness. That's where the bad coaching comes in IMO.
Barnacle
November 02, 2018 at 05:52 am
Jonathon
We moved people around In my business to give them a feel for how it all fits together, BUT when safety, production, finance and selling were needed primary we sent our tangible sales staff to sell things and our intangible sales people to sell ideas and accountants to account. If we picked people with the right skills(usually indicated by their education and intern experience and aptitude test scores) we usually had happy successful staff.
GB draftees that are versatile have a big disadvantage when comparing them to prospects that do one position very well. Rookies heads are spinning trying to learn One NFL position at NFL speed. How you like to be tried a day here a day there then compete with the guy who played one position in college and has been totally focusing on that through the entire training camp? Then have MM realize that you are versatile, as he likes,but every position has a non versatile rookie or two a lot better than you.
TKWorldWide
November 02, 2018 at 11:36 am
Dean Smith was able to hold Michael Jordan to under 20 ppg.
Skip greenBayless
November 01, 2018 at 04:34 pm
A smashing move.
Lphill
November 01, 2018 at 04:41 pm
Good move hopefully whitehead is on the field less .
Coldworld
November 01, 2018 at 05:34 pm
Whitehead has played well limited snaps in the hybrid role. He is a player that has exceeded expectations. Starting him in a safety role was a big leap. Hardly fair to jump on the guy after one game. Personally, I don’t know his potential as a true safety—he wasn’t really on my radar before the season—but he has been a pleasant surprise overall. Let’s not leap to condemn.
JerseyAl
November 01, 2018 at 05:53 pm
My only question is, why wouldn't they keep this under their hat so New England can't game plan for it?
Lare
November 01, 2018 at 06:12 pm
I agree, not sure what they gain by letting the Patriots know who'll be starting where this weekend. I'd have made them wait until Sunday night to see who they'll be facing.
flackcatcher
November 01, 2018 at 07:36 pm
Every team has video on the packers second half moves. One of those was Williams moving to the slot or box. New England would expect a move, especially after the Rams game. That why coaches like McCarthy don't like to move on to new schemes till after the mid point of the season. There are very few surprises left unless you pull something out of left field like Habraugh did with Kap in 2013.
Barnacle
November 01, 2018 at 10:59 pm
McPuffy surprises our players as much as the opponent. He has Rodgers tricking everybody with hard counts. Unfortunately it often tricks our players and/or required a wasted timeout or the defense actually getting a jump on our guys.
. If McPuffy’s versatility is so great, has McPuffy considered having our backup QB’s practice at WR part of the time. They probably would end up a little less skilled at QB, but would be better ready to jump in at WR?
According to Jonathons logic that would improve our receiving core and only make our backup quartering a little more incompetent?
Oppy
November 01, 2018 at 11:48 pm
This would be a great argument... if playing two entirely different positions (QB and WR) that require completely different skill sets and physical attributes was remotely the same as knowing the responsibilities of a few different assignments (x/y/z, or Corner/SLot/Dime) of the same position (WR or CB), which all utilize the same skill set and general physical attributes.
Your argument is a "McFailure"
Barnacle
November 02, 2018 at 06:51 am
McOppy
What do you think about taking a great college left tackle and moving him to right guard? How do you explain all the injuries to our past “versatile” offensive line? Did you happen to notice other HC’s using backup qb’s at WR? Maybe learning lots of positions is better and maybe pigs could fly if they had paid closer attention to McPuffy at the bowling alley during training camps?
Maybe if you are the judge of your debate thoughts and my points.......then maybe my argument is an Oppy failure and maybe OJ was innocent? Thanks for sharing the depth of your wisdom. I will probably continue read your brilliance, but only respond in kind.
flackcatcher
November 02, 2018 at 07:49 am
Barnacle, cut the stupid name calling. Your augment has merit, but no one is going to take it seriously with personal attacks. All that is going to happen is the folks here will ignore you. Your choice.
Barnacle
November 02, 2018 at 01:05 pm
Flackcatcher
Good tip. Thank you.
FuDog42
November 02, 2018 at 10:07 am
WTH?
Oppy
November 02, 2018 at 02:54 pm
If I could frame this response and show it to strangers I meet on the street, I would.
flackcatcher
November 02, 2018 at 08:24 am
Oppy, fans don't take in to account the massive rule changes that the NFL has made since 2011. Making the NFL a pass first league would force major changes in personal and how certain positions are played. FB as a position does not exist, ILB is a position now being manned by smaller light players or out right Hybrid types like Burks. The safety position is being transformed right before our eyes this season. Shifting to cover guys like Williams is the logical out come of the rules changes. I don't like the direction the league has taken, but being blind to the changes is simply not helpful.
splitpea1
November 01, 2018 at 08:08 pm
New England probably had our offices bugged, anyway.
TKWorldWide
November 01, 2018 at 09:31 pm
Maybe it’s subterfuge?
Gamesmanship?
A swerve?
Or maybe GB is confident like the dominant pitcher who says, “Here comes my fastball. I dare you to hit it.”
NickPerry
November 02, 2018 at 04:37 am
First thing I thought when I read the headline.
SMH..
Cartwright
November 01, 2018 at 05:56 pm
By getting rid of a malcontent and mistake prone safety and replacing him with a respected veteran who is looked up to the chemistry in the secondary just improved. Tramon is now the leader and the captain back there and will be the guide a lot like the role Charles Woodson had.
Lare
November 01, 2018 at 06:29 pm
HHCD was not a leader. In fact he was totally the opposite, his entire message was all about "me first" over what was best for the team,
Removing HHCD from the locker room and replacing him with Williams is a huge improvement for team chemistry. I'd expect to see much improved play from the secondary against the Patriots.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 06:48 pm
It’s crazy the type of things people make up in their head when they don’t like a player this dude never expressed any type of me first mentality but you convinced yourself he has. He wasn’t “rah rah” but his leadership wasn’t questioned. Stop it. He’s gone now no need to try and throw dirt on him.
jeremyjjbrown
November 01, 2018 at 06:58 pm
I also dislike the idea that HaHa was some awful person. I didn't like his occasional loafing and he was somes a bit brash with his words but I don't think he's a bad person.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 07:20 pm
Like seriously all of a sudden he’s this locker room cancer that only cared about himself and wanted big money. The comments he made were him only feeling like the team wasn’t going to resign and he was right but these weirdos just spun that right on around into something negative.
NickPerry
November 02, 2018 at 04:48 am
Leaders don't start talking about not being with the team the next year in week 3 or whenever the hell it was. The moment Gute heard that he began shopping Dix. Matter of fact I'd bet talks started that weekend the Packers lost in Washington.
WHY even say something like that? If he was asked all he needed to say was he was focusing on THIS season, not his future contract. That's enough me first for me especially when you consider when it was said.
Coldworld
November 02, 2018 at 06:48 am
I don’t know that that is true today. What he said was that the contract situation had not moved forward as he had hoped and thus that he thought that he may not be back. Hardly shocking insurrection or a statement of a wish to leave. This is a pro league. They all are in it for the money and should be given the injury risk. Performing while on the team is a legitimate question but this kind of post facto faux justification is not helpful.
flackcatcher
November 02, 2018 at 08:04 am
Team made it perfectly clear that Dix's performance this year would affect his future contract status, Dix public statements made that clear that he understood the situation. Both were up front and professional about this. As you say Coldworld, this is not helpful.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 09:56 am
How are you going to tell that ma how he should reply to something? If you like the team you’re playing for and are worried about not being resigned what’s the issue in voicing that? All the players that have made waves of contract situations and you guys are crying about that little line? You must one of those “players are just robots shut and play football” type of guys? Ughhhhh the worst
FuDog42
November 02, 2018 at 10:10 am
By avoiding contact, he expressed a "me first" mentality.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 10:46 am
So he should throw his body around and end up like Nick Collins or Ryan Shazier? I mean Brice throws his body around and he still sucks, nobody wants him on the field and nobody is sticking up for him because he does throw his body around so what are you really saying? Something happened to HHCD after the 2015 season he played reckless just like you guys wanted him to.
Leatherhead
November 02, 2018 at 11:21 am
I'll stick up for Brice.
Following the 2016 season, the Packers decided to let Micah Hyde go in free agency. He left for Buffalo and was a Pro Bowler last year.
The thinking was that we had Dix...who had a Pro Bowl season in 2016....and we also had Brice, who is a tremendously athletic defensive back. He was undrafted in 2016 but we signed this UDFA to a 3 year deal for about $1.5 million. This is the last year of that deal.
He was the backup to Burnett in 2017 and then missed most of the season with an injury that put him on IR. We also drafted Josh Jones. But then we let Burnett leave in free agency and Jones hasn't shown he can cover so now we have Kentrell Brice as our starter. And why is Brice our starter? Because a series of decisions were made, and they appeared to miscalculate on Jones, and we don't have anybody better. So why dump on Brice?
Could we have kept Hyde? Could we have kept Burnett? In both cases, lots of people just said "get rid of them" Hyde was too slow, Burnett wasn't enough of a playmaker, etc. blah blah blah.
Now Brice is still really young...he'll turn 25 in training camp next year. And he's cheap. And he's a helluva good athlete and unless he gets hurt he's going to be our starting safety for the rest of the year.
After this season is over, we're going to be looking to add some quality safeties. If Brice isn't resigned by the Packers, I'm confident that another team will be happy to have him. When this season ends, our safety situation is going to be an old CB who was converted, Brice, Whitehead, and nothing else, really.
Y'all really need to quit bagging on Brice. He has more tackles on this defense than anybody except Martinez, he's young, he's an exceptional athlete, and he's one of our better defenders.
Coach Cleve Steamer
November 02, 2018 at 03:34 pm
Old School makes sense. All they need to do is tackle or take the ball away.
dobber
November 02, 2018 at 08:54 am
Maybe not on the field, but by all accounts he was in the locker room. I can certainly understand not wanting a guy around whose effort or play you aren't happy with if he's being followed by the younger crowd.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 09:53 am
No once again you guys are just making stuff because you don’t like the guy. They have plenty of vets there that would have spoken up if that was the case just like they did with Randall. The Packers weren’t going to resign him so they traded him why can’t that just be it? Why does he suddenly have to be this cancerous player it’s ridiculous.
Lare
November 02, 2018 at 12:09 pm
HHCD quit on the team the end of last season. He refused to report during the offseason even with a new DC and defensive scheme to learn, even making a farce out of it by winking to Wilde while explaining his "reasons" for doing so. He was already questioning the Packers for not making any effort to re-sign him to a big new contract in the middle of the season. He's also been noted as avoiding contact this season already.
You like HHCD, fine. IMO they can do better.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 12:50 pm
I didn’t say I liked him I said he’s gone now and all of a sudden the guy was this terrible locker room guy, quitter, selfish blah blah blah. Everyday you guys have something new that he did to make him seem like a terrible person he’s gone now and let that be it everything being said about him has been interpreted in a way that benefits the negative image of him.
JerseyAl
November 02, 2018 at 01:16 pm
I agree with you. He was not bad guy or locker room cancer, simply a guy playing football for the money. Don't think he was very emotionally invested, but you can say that about many players now. BJ Raji,I know for a fact was only in it for some paydays and had always planned an early exit from the NFL. Eddie Lacy loved money and food a lot more than playing football. I was a harsh critic of Ha Ha's play and effort level on the field, but from all accounts he's a good dude off it.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 02:40 pm
Right maybe even a guy looking at life after football and not wanting to have migraines and memory loss but far from a terrible, selfish, locker room cancer.
mamasboy
November 01, 2018 at 06:04 pm
I'll take Tramon'S attitude over anyone on the roster.
Irish_Cheesehead
November 01, 2018 at 07:08 pm
I agree. Great role model for the younger guys.
Chuck Farley
November 01, 2018 at 06:16 pm
Really.? This is the best a team trying to make the playoffs can do. A 35 yr old guy who can't Catch a five year old with diapers around his ankles.
This team had a week to bring someone in.
Obviously we all now know Jones is a bust just taking up space. My take, another guy who just can't get it mentally.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 06:39 pm
What exactly makes Jones a bust?
Thegreatreynoldo
November 02, 2018 at 02:46 am
Agree. He isn't a bust yet. 4 snaps isn't a testimonial, though.
Coldworld
November 02, 2018 at 06:50 am
He will be a bust if he can’t get on the D now that he is healthy, which he appeared to be last week, finally. Ultimately he has to merit a role to prove himself. Hopefully that can start to happen now.
Leatherhead
November 02, 2018 at 11:27 am
Bust is not accurate. Jones was drafted with the thought that he'd be the backup last year and then the starter this year when we released Burnett. But Jones didn't seem able to cover NFL WRs last season, or in the exhibition season, and so he's behind Brice and Whitehead at safety. Tramon probably moves ahead of him too.
This is just my opinion, but I think Jones is best suited to being a weakside linebacker in a 4-3 alignment. I don't think he's going to make it as a safety. Teams will just get a good receiver lined up on him and attack his coverage.
dblbogey
November 01, 2018 at 06:41 pm
Blah blah. Blah, blah, blah.
jeremyjjbrown
November 01, 2018 at 06:54 pm
"Catch a five year old with diapers around his ankles."
How do you know? Did he try to chase you?
Irish_Cheesehead
November 01, 2018 at 07:06 pm
Who do you think they should have brought in??
Since'61
November 01, 2018 at 07:28 pm
Viking troll. Thanks, Since '61
Oppy
November 01, 2018 at 10:42 pm
Bingo, Since '61.. I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed. :)
TKWorldWide
November 01, 2018 at 09:34 pm
God, I hope NE doesn’t send a five year old with diapers around his ankles out for a pass over the middle.
JonathanSpader
November 02, 2018 at 12:24 am
Good news is the diaper would be deflated TK!
TKWorldWide
November 02, 2018 at 05:32 am
LOL
dobber
November 02, 2018 at 07:18 am
I think that guy is currently on their IR.
Spock
November 02, 2018 at 02:40 pm
"God, I hope NE doesn’t send a five year old with diapers around his ankles out for a pass over the middle."
No Sh*t. That could be messy.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 06:45 pm
Everyone hyped about Williams being the Safety but was he good? I’m not putting much store in him being the best safety on the Browns! If Brice is still out there or even Whitehead is that much of an improvement? Say what you will about HHCD but the guy got his hands on the football quite a bit. If Williams can’t at least maintain the safety play they had before nobody should complain.
Irish_Cheesehead
November 01, 2018 at 07:12 pm
I think most just see this as the best move that can be made at this point. Sure beats bringing back M.D. Jennings.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 07:17 pm
Ughhhh oh god and Jerron McMillian or Charlie Peprah
BradHTX
November 01, 2018 at 09:41 pm
Don’t hate on Charlie, he wasn’t great but he was serviceable. In 2011 he had 10 passes defensed, 5 INTs (1 for a TD) and 1 forced fumble.
That’s actually 3 PDs and 1 TD better than HHCD’s Pro Bowl 2016 season. Which really makes me rethink my thinking he was anything remotely special, ever.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 09:59 pm
2011 what was that his 6th year in the league? You know how many he had the 5 years prior a grand total of two. Knock it off you comparing Peprah to a guy that was serviceable at worst and good at best. Nobody was making a fuss when he left.
CAG123
November 01, 2018 at 10:01 pm
Charlie Peprah was the starting FS when they had one of the worst defenses in league
Thegreatreynoldo
November 02, 2018 at 03:13 am
Peprah was the starting SS in 2010 (Nick Collins was the starting FS), and it was one of the best defenses in the NFL. Burnett started 4 games, got hurt and Peprah started the rest of the season and the playoffs.
In 2011, Peprah was the starting safety (with Collins lasting just two games), but neither Peprah nor Burnett were that well suited to playing FS. In any event, GB's defense finished 19th in points allowed, not too much different than its 2018 ranking of 17th. Peprah failed a physical due to a knee injury and shortly thereafter he was out of football.
He wasn't terrible.
Coldworld
November 02, 2018 at 06:55 am
Athletically limited by nfl standards, but a smart player who worked and played hard. Peprah was an asset to the team if not a bona fide career starter in a pure safety role. I would be happy to have him on the team (in his pre Injury incarnation) right now.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 08:06 am
FS position is much more impactful than the SS unless you have a Troy, Kam, or Berry back there and even then you see the Seahawks suffer much worse when Thomas is out of the lineup than when Kam is. Collins was a top safety in the league him being the FS in 2010 along with a Charles Woodson and Tramon Williams made that secondary what it was much more than anything Peprah was doing.
LambeauPlain
November 02, 2018 at 08:12 am
CD did get INTs...and about half of them were the "fair catch" type corralling an errant throw while he was out of position in relation to the receiver.
That was his scouting report coming out of Alabama too. In fact his performance for the Pack was very similar to his time with The Tide...good player with an inflated reputation due to all the great players around him.
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 11:00 am
That doesn’t even make sense he actually broke on a lot of bad passes that’s why he ended up where he was. He also made his fair share of contested picks as well. I just never thought I would here people complain about how a guy gets his interceptions like when you see his “fair catch” picks did you say “Aw man that interception sucked”! Kyle Fuller can’t even bring in easy picks and we’re complaining about a guy that does? Mind boggling stuff
CAG123
November 02, 2018 at 11:12 am
About those Bama players that were so great HHCD outlasted almost all of them from the 2013,14, and 15 you can pretty much say that him, Collins and Mosley are the best players from that 3 year stretch Amari Cooper can still turn it around.
Thegreatreynoldo
November 02, 2018 at 07:21 pm
HHCD had 3 INTs. No question that 2 of them were brilliant plays that he himself created on his own. The other INT, he did what he is supposed to do and was where he was supposed to be, but he made the play. Definitely a plus play.
HankScorpio
November 01, 2018 at 08:13 pm
One step closer to getting their 5 best DBs on the field at the same time.
I'd assume that Jackson picks up extra snaps and Breland gets to dress. So at least they finally get all 5 active on gameday.
Coldworld
November 02, 2018 at 07:00 am
I have to think that this was part of a plan by Gute after Alexander showed he is a starter already and Breeland got close to fitness while others show potential for depth too. If the mantra is get your best players on the field and there isnt room to do so, it does allow a team to get something for the short term player with trade value.
I would be very surprised if they did not use the same logic on offense and try to shop Cobb. Obviously there was no taker if so.
We will see how this works, but it is not inconceivable that they see it as a near zero sum change on the field. We will see.
Bure9620
November 01, 2018 at 10:09 pm
Very different from corner but this is a veteran progression. Williams knows the game, he can do this. He still has terrific hip fluidity at his age, just not the strait line speed. Jaire is a STUD. Let Jackson or Breeland play outside some too. We are set at corner.
ArlenWilliams
November 02, 2018 at 02:29 am
Fine skills, great experience... and probably the least speedy Packer DB, just saying.
Coldworld
November 02, 2018 at 07:05 am
These days, and with the speed we now have at corner, one would think so, but Safety is more about anticipation than raw speed. Moreover, Williams is a player who likes to play football and this is now in his interest if he wants to keep going, just as Woodson accepted it was for him at a similar age. If it works out half as well for Tramon as it did with Woodson I’d say we should be very happy.
LambeauPlain
November 02, 2018 at 08:16 am
Pettine will play the 5 or 6 DBs that will best match up with the opponent on a given Sunday.
I can see a variety of combinations from different spots on the field with two exceptions...I see the duo of King Alexander patrolling the boundary all game long!
Doug Niemczynski
November 02, 2018 at 03:39 pm
Correct me anyone id I am wrong, but didn't we try to move Charles Woodson from CB to Safety and it didn't work out!
Lare
November 02, 2018 at 03:56 pm
It actually worked out pretty well until he broke his collarbone and missed most of the season.
Christopher Gennaro
November 02, 2018 at 04:45 pm
Hmm like the move, but I of 2 minds. 1 I think TWill will be fine at FS, but the other side I want to see Jackson out there more. I know his a cb, but his ball skills would be awesome as FS as well.