The Packers select TE Josiah Deguara 94th overall

Take a closer look at the Packers third round selection in the 2020 NFL draft, Cincinnati tight end Josiah Deguara.

The Packers added a versitile piece for their offense in the third round. 

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HackAttack's picture

April 25, 2020 at 11:43 am

He’s lined up in the slot, on the line, and in the backfield. A versatile tight end could be a very useful weapon! If none of the wide receivers were jumping out at them why not go for this.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 04:07 am

His versatility also speaks to the coaches trusting him in multiple positions, this is huge for NFL coaches. Belichick is constantly harping on "I need to trust you to put you out there"

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Leatherhead's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:30 am

We’re going to line up in double TE sets a lot so we need TEs that can block and catch. He seems to fit the bill.

Lewis, Sternberger, Deguara, and Looney. I like it.

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Pack103172's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:36 am

Don't forget R.Tonyan

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 25, 2020 at 02:53 am

His name is Robert Tonyan, his name is Robert Tonyan.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:46 am

Haha, nice

I understand now. In exclusive rights free agency Packers do have a name. And his name is Robert Tonyan.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 25, 2020 at 09:22 am

Nice.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 03:21 am

Yup, pound the rock out of 12 personnel, there will usually be 2 WRs on the field. I dont think the "we need a WR!l We needs weapons ahhh!!!!" People understand what a personnel grouping is in football. It will typically be Adams and Lazard or Adams and Funchess.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 07:02 am

Yeah, people that think a "pound the rock" approach out of 12 personnel is a relic of the 1980s are the ones that don't understand. All that passing game stuff really is just a fad. It will pass and we'll be back to 3rd yards and a cloud of dust football in 2020. Its a great idea to move up for a QB so he can turn around and hand the ball off.

Apologies in advance if I overloaded anyone's sarcasm detector.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:05 am

Tell that to Kyle Shanahan.........

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:54 am

The same Kyle Shannon whos team made a trade for a wide receiver mid season, has a top 2 receiving TE in the league (yes I know he can block), spent a high second round pick on a receiver in 2019, a first one this year, and has an actual Olympic level speedster at WR.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 11:18 am

Who the hell cares about Kyle Shanahan?

You can chase the next rung on the ladder. I'm looking to get to the top of it.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 04:09 am

Weapons! Ahahahah my percieved needs are not being met!!! Receivers!!! Weapons ahhhha!!!! Fire gute!!! Ahahahhhhh!!! Packers twitter!!! Ahahahah

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 07:03 am

"I like it."

Now, I'm sure they are wrong.

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GBPDAN1's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:01 am

This draft is somewhat frustrating. Our D is still going to get run over - especially by the niners. We need another starting caliber CB and we didn't get more explosive on offense. We got a 4th rd RB/FB in the 2nd and and a 5-6th rd TE in the 3rd. .....am I wrong here? I hope so because I don't think this team improved over last years . I hate being negative , but I don't see us getting past the niners to get to the SB, and if we got there the Ravens or Chiefs would beat us. (I really like the Ravens draft, the rich get richer)

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RickInCali's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:48 am

He runs sub-4.5 at 250 lbs. He is no FB. They are going to be big on offense, running out of 2 TE sets. They obviously have that plan in full motion, and it is also clear they like their existing wideouts more than we do. We all know intellectually that those wideouts take time....

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

April 25, 2020 at 02:29 am

Who are you talking about?
Deguara ran a 4.72 at 242 pounds.
Dillon ran a 4.53 and 247 pounds.

Perhaps about the WRs. Gute said he thought there was an outside chance of a WR falling to 62. Not sure if he meant Mims, who was selected 59th, just ahead of GB at 62. Would Gute have taken Mims over Dillon? We will never know.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:57 am

"Perhaps about the WRs. Gute said he thought there was an outside chance of a WR falling to 62. Not sure if he meant Mims, who was selected 59th, just ahead of GB at 62. Would Gute have taken Mims over Dillon? We will never know."

Had he remained patient and let Love come to them at 30, they would have had the 4th round ammo to move up from #62 to get Mims when he started falling. Mims would help Rodgers, Love, Boyle or who ever else might line up at QB.

And what good is Love going to be with no weapons? One of the justifications I've seen for him is that his bad decisions in college were because he was surrounded by bad players. By the time he hits the field, Adams may very well be gone. Gute has declined to add anyone of substance from this historically strong WR class. Even with day 3 remaining, that ship has sailed.

If they want to be a running team, be one. Don't sweat the QB. Invest in ball carriers and their blockers. If they want to be a passing team, be one. Invest in the QB and give him the tools to succeed. But don't change course from Day 1 to Day 2.

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Cubbygold's picture

April 25, 2020 at 07:04 am

Good points there. I'm hoping the plan starts to be more clear, but it does seem odd to draft a guy that people compare to Mahomes one day and then go old school run game the next day.

Also they must not think much of Tonyan or Sternberger to be drafting a TE over so many other needs.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

April 25, 2020 at 09:27 am

That's not the illusion of complexity Hank. MLF belives that to be successful on offense you need to have the threat of BOTH the run and the pass. Dillion and Jones give us legitimate running threats with different styles.

For WR Gute signed Funchess, ESB is returning, maybe MVS will overcome his sophmore slump. What Gute is doing is draft and develop while Packer fans are giving up and looking for a new shiny toy.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 11:21 am

I agree that the threat of both is important. Which is why I wanted the passing game to step up to the threat level of the run game. The collection of stiffs they have catching passes doesn't strike fear in any DC.

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Oppy's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:52 pm

Drafting another running back doesn't increase the threat of the run in green bay.

Only a change at QB- either in personnel or attitude - will increase the threat of running the ball in GB.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:51 am

The dude has a jump cut and spin move too. Freakish. I love Aaron Jones, he is special but I always feel he is injury prone. Slighter build. I am waiting for that play where a safety comes up to hit him and he explodes. I am glad we drafted a Mack truck to close games.

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PeteK's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:15 am

He'll get a chance to recharge his battery as he splits some time with Jones and Williams. Love this pick.

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 25, 2020 at 11:48 am

Especially by the niners. The same 49ers who just added a pro bowl left tackle in a trade. A great team who just added to a strength, and the same "running" team who just added a 1st round WR

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:14 pm

Their base set is 12 personnel...........That is 2 WRs and 2 TEs.

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:57 pm

Well congratulations, you learned a new football term. That base personel consists of a 2nd round pick, a 1st round pick as of Thursday, an Olympic athlete, an all world TE, and tons and tons of speed. If you can't see how that creates mismatches and allows for more favorable matchups than Adams and lazard, or who ever else, that's not my problem

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:38 am

This is gonna be entertaining.

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RickInCali's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:42 am

This draft has been pretty baffling. It would lead you to believe that they have a vet or two coming. Maybe a DL like Harrison? Tramon is now a need, most likely. I actually like that particular kind of RB for us. I see Lacy without the weight/conditioning/medical issues. Plus he’s faster. Planning ahead with another young TE works. for me too.

I’d still like to see a WR like Hightower or maybe a CB like Madre Harper or OL like Charlie Heck. Wondering if they can get back in the 4th for Hightower? The LB’s from Montana, Utah and Fresno State still possibilities too with the picks we have remaining.

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Cwilly's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:59 am

I say we’re going to super bowl next year after this draft but if someone runs the ball we may be in trouble!

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PackFlip's picture

April 25, 2020 at 02:59 am

You are not intelligent.

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optimisticfan's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:23 am

It seems we are adding more in-line blockers to run more and increase dynamic looks from RPOs. MLF is getting the type of players he wants but at the expense of taking them 1/2 to 1 round earlier than we might have gotten them if we still had a 4th round pick? Interesting to see how DL, ILB, and OL depth will be addressed. My guess is Gute will try to move back up and get an extra 4th pick with some of those 6ths and a 2021 pick?

Dusty, Al, Nagler or someone more experienced than I, maybe an article discussing the significance of the Day 1 and Day 2 picks as being indicative of a clear offensive scheme would be warranted.

Qs:
1) How frequently is MLF going to use 20 and 02 personnel formations?

2) What is the likely increase in percentage snaps of 3 or more RBs/TEs personnel looks? (12, 21, 22, 13, 23)

3) What was the percentage of the NFL team with the most snaps with 3 or more RBs/TEs last year? Highest season percentage all time (in the modern era)?

4) How long is it going to take opposing teams to learn that we may asymmetrically run more predominantly to our left and to hedge defenders to that side slightly? Can Lewis or other TEs compensate enough for the right side of the line?

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Oppy's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:06 am

While it's not a direct answer to your questions, I'll try to summarize what the message of this draft is:

"Aaron Rodgers, either get on board with the scheme, or you can GTFO."

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PackFlip's picture

April 25, 2020 at 02:59 am

Really? Give up

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GBPDAN1's picture

April 25, 2020 at 02:56 am

The more I think about this, pulling a safety into the box to stop our run game will help our WRs. We obviously will be committing to the Lafleur TE heavy running game with Deguara / Lewis / Sternberger blocking and Dillon/ Jones /Williams pushing the rock. This will open up the passing game with the TEs and Adams / Lazard / Funchess.

Now we need some run stuffers on D.

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PackFlip's picture

April 25, 2020 at 02:58 am

As soon as Aaron leaves or retires, so does more than half the fan base. Most pathetic draft in history of NFL teams ever. Tried to love Gute. Bye

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Oppy's picture

April 25, 2020 at 11:51 am

If you're an Aaron Rodgers fan first and a Green Bay Packers fan second..
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Buh-bye.

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PackFlip's picture

April 25, 2020 at 03:05 am

Team has quit.

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NickPerry's picture

April 25, 2020 at 03:43 am

I'm thinking Gute is REALLY missing Milt Hendrickson being in the same room as him, perhaps offering up some of that Ravens experience. Gute has TOTALLY lost his mind this draft completely ignoring the SEC or Big Ten Schools for example. Completely ignoring the teams who have won and won A LOT with top tier talent. Now I'm all for finding talent ANYWHERE, but to make THESE choices on a team who was 13-3 and in the NFCCG is just baffling IMO.

To go through 3 rounds and end up with these 3 picks is hard. I've lost almost all the faith I had in Brian Gutekunst. He threw away the Packers 4th for the right to move up and grab Love. He drafted a RB in the 2nd he could have probably gotten in the 3rd or 4th, and a TE I hadn't heard of. Now if I'm not mistaken Packers fans get to sit and wait until the 5th and HOPE a WR is still there since we GAVE away the 4th rounder.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 05:07 am

You do realize many players from those conferences are also over drafted and never get second contracts correct? Also some players had offers from those schools and said no. I watch lots of BIG football as a Wisconsin fan. Ohio St. fans think their whole team is draftable.
This draft is in no way surprising to me. They want to run the ball, use PA out of 2 TE set and have players with positional versatility.

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The_Justicar's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:24 am

If you went to college to play football at Utah state and Cincinnati you were NOT recruited by the big SEC and Big 10 schools. Fact.

May not matter at all in the nfl but Jordan love was not recruited by the college football powers or he’d be playing for one.

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Leatherhead's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:35 am

Who was Rodgers recruited by? Butte?

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 07:45 am

Haha, Davante Adams was a 2 start recruit by Fresno St. so was Joe Thomas, as was JJ Watt, whom were walk ons. Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Kurt Warner were zero star recruits. Romo played at Eastern Illinois and Rodgers at Butte Community College. Carson Wentz was recruited by North Dakota St Fitzpatrick was recruited by Harvard. Flacco was recruited by Delaware. Roethlisberger was recruited by Miami U (not the U) Randy Moss by Marshall, Donald Driver by Alcorn St. Antonio Brown by central Michigan, I can go on and on and on and on and on

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Fire_Gute's picture

April 25, 2020 at 05:59 pm

I get your point and agree. But moss was recruited to FSU, he failed a drug test and was booted off the team

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Oppy's picture

April 25, 2020 at 12:48 pm

NIck Collins? Bethune-Cookman? No?

Talent can be cultivated anywhere.

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LambeauPlain's picture

April 25, 2020 at 04:30 am

Here is the path to victory in 2020...pound them.

Run through them, run around them. Run traps. Run jet sweeps. Run off tackle. Run up the middle. Run screens. Run play action then surprise them with an occasional deep pass. But mostly, just pound them!

Oh, wait a minute....you thought I was talking about the Packers? No, no, no. Every team that PLAYS the Packers in 2020.

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flackcatcher's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:01 pm

On Wisconsin....

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 05:22 am

The more I see what the Packers are trying to do on offense the more I think there is a real possibility they let Bakhtiari walk. His strength is in pass pro and that was the MO for Packers offensive lineman. He is a capable run blocker as well but not one you give a massive 3rd contract to. The Offensive line could look drastically different in 2021

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Boneman's picture

April 25, 2020 at 05:30 am

Totally agree. They couldn't afford to pay Clark and Bahk anyway, plus his skills clearly eroded a bit last year.

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Cubbygold's picture

April 25, 2020 at 07:31 am

Absolutely. And if the next Superbowl will have love at QB, Bakh will be in his early 30s. Not that he can't be a great LT in 3/4 years, but lots of money spent in the meantime for a guy that is perfect for a passing offense

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arthurl's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:34 am

I don't get what management is doing here, but then again I never understood why they took Gary last year either. From where they were drafting I could see taking Love as their potential QB of the future. These last two picks were reaches and don't address holes team possesses. Who's playing the slot, who's other ILB, their DL gets dominated. Now Dillon could before their featured back after this season if they don't want to pay Jones. I was never big fan of Williams anyway, so Dillon should be their #2 this season.

I hope I'm proven wrong.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 06:45 am

Athletic profile is why they took Gary. I had him mocked to the Packers and was ridiculed. He was productive when he had opportunities.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 07:13 am

Between Keke and Gary, I think the front 6 of the defense is going to be much improved in 2020, even without adding anyone. They could still use a massive 330 lb run stuffer but those guys can be found on the UDFA market. I don't like that they think a playmaking LB is not necessary. But I've been saying that for 30 years. This draft was always about fixing the offense to me, so I'm not terribly upset they have drafted zero defenders.

However I question whether they have done anything of substance to fix the offense. I've been watching a lot of games on gamepass. It's amazing how much better the offense functions with just 2 legit WRs. And downright scary when they have 3. They have 1 legit WR that is starting to get a little long in the tooth. I will not be forgetting their choice to skip adding more WR help in a historically strong WR class anytime soon.

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Bure9620's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:17 am

12 personnel is the base offense now.....that is 2 WRs on the field. The McMuffin 11 personnel is gone and in those cases it will be Sternberger/Jones motioning to the slot.

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:18 pm

Who gives a crap what the base offense is? All I want is for ML to be given a full quiver of arrows to attack in whatever way a particular opponent is most vulnerable. That's what good coaches do. I believe ML is a good coach.

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optimisticfan's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:18 am

Error

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PeteK's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:26 am

Puzzling??? You draft an unknown TE and pass on a solid ILB Harrison. Even drafting a solid RT prospect like Niang would have been better. I liked Fotu as a run stuffing DT, but forget about him being available unless they move up today.

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gkarl's picture

April 25, 2020 at 09:51 am

Niang in the 3rd, I think the TE they picked would still have been there in the 5th or 6th.

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April 25, 2020 at 09:51 am

Niang in the 3rd, I think the TE they picked would still have been there in the 5th or 6th.

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Packers0808's picture

April 25, 2020 at 08:42 am

The WR ordeal is interesting. We have 9 WR on roster now I believe. We have the guy from Canada and one coming off IR! Maybe the coaches know more than we do and are more than okay with the WR room!

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clarity007's picture

April 25, 2020 at 10:35 am

Any obvious trade bait to get back into the 4th?

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HankScorpio's picture

April 25, 2020 at 11:32 am

Nope. Lane Taylor might bring in another 6.

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flackcatcher's picture

April 25, 2020 at 01:14 pm

The uncertainty of the season is affecting some player personnel moves across the league. I don't see GMs making any long term moves till summer, even if the NFL plays on. Like most of Us, it's out of their control...

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