The Packers in Short-Yardage Situations

For the last two seasons I have been under the belief that Eddie Lacy isn't a power back, he's merely a big back. Meaning that he has the build and the frame to be a power back who trucks defenders and wears them down as the game goes on. While his frame is different, he could be like a Marshawn Lynch style runner... but he's not.

Lacy seemingly prefers to run around defenders with little shifty cuts and spin moves rather than run through them - and that's fine. It just makes watching him a little frustrating for me because I would rather not see all that size slow him down and turn what could be home runs into 10 to 15-yard runs. Sure that size also makes him tougher to bring down even if he's not running someone over, but I personally would still rather see someone faster.

Eddie Lacy breaks a lot of tackles and when combined with his size I think people start forming their own narrative based on stereotype. I am willing to accept that I could be wrong here, maybe he is that "power back" and I just don't see it - but obviously I don't think that's the case.

That being said, when Eddie is going, I do really enjoy watching him run. He may not be fast per-se, but he is effective and watching a man that size, moving at that speed, make defenders miss as they try to arm-tackle him is great.

I guess none of that really matters, I just needed to get that off of my chest before digging into the piece and it also helps explain why I was actually pretty excited to look up the stats for this piece (usually I dread looking up stats because while I love hunting for them, I get most of what I want done and after a couple of hours, one set of stats that I need and thought would be easy to find turns out to be something that's not available to me and everything I have done is a waste). I really wanted to know how a back his size performs in short-yardage, especially because I don't see him as a "run you over' kind of player. 

Big, bruising running backs have a couple of use cases in the NFL. They wear down the defense and have the old adage of "getting stronger as the game goes on." They are tough to bring down and while they theoretically may not hit home runs every game, they can pick up four and five yards at a time a lot easier than lighter backs. They also should be good at picking up first downs and touchdowns in short-yardage situations. 

In the Packers last game against the Dallas Cowboys the Packers had the ball on the one-yard line looking to get into the end zone and ended up having three shots at punching it in. They didn't get in, they had to turn the ball over on downs, and they didn't give the ball to Eddie Lacy. This lead a decent amount of people I follow on Twitter to make statements that can be paraphrased as, "you have Eddie Lacy, use him!"

I personally didn't have an issue with the play-calling there. They threw it on second down, gave Starks a shot on third down (and funny, people didn't have an issue with Starks being in when they thought he scored and were praising him for making a nice run to get there), and on fourth and inches they tried and failed on a QB sneak. 

I like to look at things for the offense that I cheer for in terms of what I would prefer the other team to do/not do if the Packers defense was out there instead. When it is third or fourth and inches the last thing I want to see is a QB sneak. I personally would much rather see the opponent give the ball to a running back. The reason for that is because it is a couple more seconds and like six yards (quarterback travel to hand it off and running back travel from where they get the ball) for the defense to make a play or makeup for getting beat off the snap. On the QB sneak if the offensive line wins a little bit, that's all you need and you also have the quarterback potentially squeezing into a small gap if line offensive line gets pushed back a little. I personally like the odds for the offense if the quarterback is punching it in Tom Brady style than the running back taking it from the backfield. 

I see both sides to the argument though and have no problem with people who think jamming a quarterback into the middle of a crowded line is dumb.

Digging into it I went and looked up what the Packers have done for play-calling in terms of run/pass in short-yardage situations and how successful they have been in those situations since drafting Eddie Lacy. For this piece I have defined short-yardage situations as being plays that the Packers needed one-yard to pick up a first down or touchdown. I have broken up the situations into a few categories: There's the overall stats when needing to pick up one-yard, how they performed in third and fourth down in those situations, and how they have performed on the goal line.

For the running portion of these stats I'm going to include a breakdown of the performance of the Packers' four main rushers: Eddie Lacy, John Kuhn, James Starks, and Aaron Rodgers over that time period.

Plays needing one-yard to convert a first down or touchdown:

  Attempts Successful Conversions Percentage
Run 106 70 66.0%
Pass 64 36 56.3%

Overall the Packers have run 170 regular season plays where they needed one-yard to score or pick up a first down since the start of the 2013 season. They have converted the first down or touchdown on 106 of them, good for a success rate of 62.4 percent.

On those plays the Packers chose to pass the ball 37.6 percent of the time. Meaning they run the ball roughly two-thirds of the time when needing one-yard.

This makes sense because they are much more successful at running the ball than they are passing the ball in this scenario, with a 66 percent success rate they are 10 percent more successful over the last three seasons when running the ball than passing it to pick up that one-yard.

Run Plays
Player Attempts Successful Conversions Percentage
Kuhn 11 8 72.7%
Lacy 51 34 66.7%
Rodgers 5 4 80.0%
Starks 33 22 66.7%

Looking at the four players who comprised 100 of the Packers 106 rushing attempts over this span you see that Eddie Lacy has - as expected -  by far and away the most rushing attempts in the one-yard to go scenario with 51 of the 106 total attempts. Lacy converted 34 of his 51 attempts, which is good for a success rate of 66.7 percent. Lacy's success rate is the exact same as James Starks' and worse than Rodgers (five carries) and surprisingly, John Kuhn who has a 72.7 percent success rate on his (only) 11 attempts. With Lacy at 66.7 percent, Kuhn, Rodgers, and Starks combine for a 69 percent success rate. Not much of a difference from Lacy to the cumulative rest of that group.

Also of note, that QB sneak that Rodgers got stuffed on against Dallas last week was the only time in the last three years that Rodgers was stuffed trying to gain one-yard.

All four players had a better success rate running the ball than the Packers have had throwing it to pick up one-yard the last three seasons.

Third and fourth down plays needing one-yard to convert a first down or touchdown:

  Attempts Successful Conversions Percentage
Run 63 38 60.3%
Pass 37 22 59.5%

The Packers have had 100 attempts at picking up a first down on third or fourth down with one-yard to go since 2013. They have attempted a run on 63 percent of those plays and a pass on 37 percent of the plays. 

Unlike the general one-yard plays on any down, on third and fourth down specifically - plays where defenses expect teams to run more and will typically play to stop the run - the Packers have virtually the same success rate passing the ball as they do running the ball with a 60 percent success rate. That's a little surprising considering the difference in run/pass success in the previous scenario.

Run Plays
Player Attempts Successful Conversions Percentage
Kuhn 8 6 75.0%
Lacy 29 17 58.6%
Rodgers 3 2 66.7%
Starks 18 11 61.1%

Similarly to one-yard plays on any down, Eddie Lacy dominates the one-yard run plays on third and fourth down with 50 percent of the team's carries. Similarly to his performance on any down where the Packers need one-yard, Eddie Lacy has the worst success rate of the four rushers on third and fourth down. At 58.6 percent Lacy is worse than all three other players and John Kuhn is once again up there at 75 percent success on his eight carries. All together Kuhn, Rodgers, and Starks combine for a 65.5 percent success rate on third and fourth downs, a seven percent higher success rate than Lacy has.

In this situation Lacy is the only player rushing the ball who has a worse success rate than the Packers have had throwing the ball.

 Goal line plays needing one-yard to score:

  Attempts Successful Conversions Percentage
Run 20 13 65.0%
Pass 16 6 37.5%

Here we see things start to diverge from what we saw before. In 36 attempts from their opponent's one-yard line the Packers have converted on 52.8 percent of their attempts, which seems okay, but once you factor in that almost half of those attempts were passes and they only converted on 37.5 percent of those passes, things look a little worse. Overall the 65 percent run success isn't much different than the 66 and 60 percent success rates from the previous two scenarios. Interestingly enough at almost a 50/50 split between run and pass, the goal line plays see much more balanced play-calling than the other scenarios. I am assuming they wanted to take advantage of the obvious run-down by surprising defenses with the pass. What ever the reason, it hasn't worked so well.

Run Plays
Player Attempts Successful Conversions Percentage
Kuhn 4 2 50.0%
Lacy 13 10 76.3%
Rodgers 2 1 50.0%
Starks 1 0 0.0%

Just like in the other two scenarios, Lacy dominates the rushing attempts. Unlike in the other two scenarios, Lacy oddly dominates the success rate here. While Kuhn and Rodgers are at 50 percent on their limited touches and Starks just got his first goal line attempt in three years last week, Eddie Lacy has a staggering success rate of 76.3 percent. Way above his success rate in any other one-yard situation on the field.

I have to say, this surprised me quite a bit. I expected most success rates here to be around 50 percent at best. While the Packers do have a pretty good offensive line for run blocking, they are not the most physically imposing group and in my eyes that usually plays a pretty big role on the goal line. To see Lacy struggle in the other two scenarios but have so much success here is a little weird, especially because teams should be expecting the run with a limited field to pass on. 

Looking into it a little bit more, only two of Lacy's 13 attempts at the goal line came on third or fourth down. Which may help to explain his success, especially because the Packers aren't afraid to pass the ball on the goal line. On first and second down the Packers are more likely to throw it, which probably makes it a little easier on Lacy with the defense not having everyone crash the line. That doesn't discredit how good those numbers are though.

Overall all of this doesn't change my perception of Lacy in short-yardage, he has still been the least efficient option of any of the rushers when needing one-yard. However I do believe that when defenses see him in there, they may key-in on him and prepare for the run a little more. Even still, that would really just make him about as efficient as the other three options, with the exception for Lacy being on the goal line.

Kuhn's success rate surprised me quite a bit. I feel like he shouldn't be succeeding in the 70 to 75 percent range, maybe I am just remembering all the times the fullback dive has failed more than I should. 

Looking at the goal line numbers I think I was wrong and McCarthy should have called at least one play for Lacy on the goal line last Sunday. It is hard to argue with a 76.3 percent success rate and while I hate, Hate, HATE power formations in short-yardage situations for most teams, putting Lacy in and spreading teams out a little bit (I envision the I-Formation as the perfect goal line formation) may be a perfect combination to knock it in time after time. 

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croatpackfan's picture

December 17, 2015 at 06:43 am

Mike, interesting view... And yes, Eddie isn't running as classic power back we see in the league... But his specific way of running is something, I believe, make him succesful...

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EdsLaces's picture

December 17, 2015 at 06:58 am

Eddie is different. Watching him in college I had never seen any running back use the spin move as often as him and with such success. 3,4 even 5 times a game he would bust out a spin move and leave the defender in the dust. It was truly something to behold. Now in the NFL the spin is quite a bit more dangerous,but when he occasionally does bring it out it works. My hope for him is that he loses 10 or 15 this offseason and gets back to his more "shifty" self. Either way though I like what he brings to the table.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 17, 2015 at 07:07 am

For whatever reason when this team tries to pack everyone into the middle of the field it seems like they fail more then they win those battles. I would like to see their stats of how many times they actually win the battle for 1 yard when they play everyone lined up in the middle versus when they spread teams out.

This team I think is at its best when it spreads teams out with a FB and RB lined up in the back field.
I agree that the best formation moving forward is to go with the I formation, Rodgers under center or at the very least in the pistol, and go 3 WR's spread out.

Moving forward I hope to see more I formations with Rodgers under center, as well as more Pistol formations. Those are the 2 best running formations. Hopefully they stick with them.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 17, 2015 at 02:27 pm

I definitely agree with that.

For what it's worth, regardless of formation, the Packers are 33 for 49 on running up the middle the last three years, a 67 percent success rate.
Around the tackles and ends on 3rd and 4th downs the Packers are 20 for 33, a 61 percent success rate.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 18, 2015 at 07:49 am

Great stats on that Mike.

Do you have any break downs of what their success rate is with each formation they are in?

I would love to see what their success rate is when they spread teams out vs packing everyone in the middle.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 18, 2015 at 10:19 am

I wish I did, unfortunately I do not have any information on play formation that's worthwhile. No one (that I know of) keeps track of that and makes it available to the public on a play-by-play basis. I'd have to watch every play of every game again, which if I were to do is more of an off-season thing so I could do a whole season at once and not have to go back after each game.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 18, 2015 at 10:39 am

Yeah, I have no way of finding that out.

The only one that I would think would possibly keep track of that for public would maybe be Pro Football Focus.

It would be really interesting to see though their success rate based on formations they use.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:18 am

PFF stopped making their stats available to the public, only their grades and articles.

Even then, I'm not sure they had stats on formation available to the public.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:34 am

i did not know that. I don't spend a lot of time or anytime for that matter on their website.

Yeah, probably not.

Would be interesting to see, but it would probably be almost impossible to find.

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Horse's picture

December 17, 2015 at 07:11 am

Great post. More, please.
4th and 1 from the 1 yard line, 2014 season
Marshawn Lynch
"Among 39 running backs with at least 10 carries from the 1-yard line in the past five seasons (including playoffs), Lynch’s touchdown percentage (45 percent) ranks 30th. Also consider that this season, Lynch scored a touchdown on 1-of-5 rushes from the 1-yard line."

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MikeReuter's picture

December 17, 2015 at 02:21 pm

I remember reading that stat, pretty crazy. Good addition.

In my head its always been about offensive line execution more so than the player carrying the ball (which is probably why I prefer the QB sneak). Sure it's nice to have a bigger guy in case he needs to break an arm tackle, but there isn't many more physical running backs in the league than Lynch and if he can't put it in it goes to show that offensive line execution is really the key... which probably shouldn't be too big of a surprise, but I think it is something that gets heavily overlooked.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 17, 2015 at 07:52 am

To me it's all about making holes for him because he has to build up a head of steam. Which is why he does better from the I. Otherwise the O line has to execute perfectly.

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Horse's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:01 am

"Even though many people believe that a strong running game comes down to having a premier back or a big, physical offensive line, it really comes down to executing the details."

-Brady Poppinga

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:57 am

Knowing your players and teams strengths and weaknesses is something that can allow the play caller to do the best job possible. But the biggest thing is if they actually accept their players/teams weaknesses.

For example. Lacy runs a lot better in the I formation or in the pistol where he is running towards the LOS with a FB. When he can build up a bit of speed, and not have to hesitate in the backfield. He is a guy that needs to be running north and south, not east and west. When he starts going sideways he tends to lose that. When he has a FB it allows him to read that last block to find the hole.

Knowing that the last few games the play callers shifted to those looks more. And look at the difference it has made.

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Bear's picture

December 17, 2015 at 11:59 am

Amen!

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TommyG's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:26 am

Dang! That was a good read. If I had been asked I would not have been able to tell someone how much more often we run that one yard pickup. I had no idea that Rodgers hadn't been stopped on a one yard play in three years! Wow! I suppose we should be screaming for AR to get the ball on the next 4th &1

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Razer's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:45 am

Good work Mike. Going back to 2013 sure does give you the Packer tendency. While it is a year-to-year league, our RB's and O-line have been consistent over these years, so it should be a fairly reliable picture.

I would like to see us pound the ball on these 1 yard situations but I don't think our O-line is strong enough for this dedication. We need road grader guys and that is not our line. Other than Linsley, the whole line tends to play tall. They are better in space when the threat of passing is greater.

Punching it in is a great statement and the icing on a drive. We need to be really good at it as the playoffs come into focus.

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RCPackerFan's picture

December 17, 2015 at 11:33 am

'Lacy at 225 would be REALLY good.'

I agree with this.

Look at how much better Leveon Bell has become since he dropped weight.

A quicker more agile Lacy I think could be better then what he is now. And he is pretty good now.

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4thand1's picture

December 17, 2015 at 06:06 pm

Bell is out for the year. I've been hearing how Lacy is injured because he is overweight. cowturd comes to mind.

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Dan Stodola's picture

December 17, 2015 at 07:39 pm

I don't necessarily agree that his injuries are due to his weight, tho that could play a part. But I do think he is overweight. Pretty much have since he showed up in GB for his rookie TC. I much prefer the Lacy that played at Bama at 230ish, instead of the Packer version that has always been well north of 240. I just think he would be more effective and might run w/ more power if he were lighter. He just doesn't hit holes hard and accelerate into contact.

IMO that is the definition of a power RB. One that accelerates into contact (Ahman Green, Adrian Peterson come to mind). Lacy too often slows, stops moving his feet and doesn't recognize when to accelerate to make best use of his size.

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hobbes's picture

December 17, 2015 at 11:32 am

My question is what differentiates a "big back" from a "power back"? By default I would assume that all power backs must be big, but what's a big back who isn't also a power back? Would there be any point in keeping a just big back?

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MikeReuter's picture

December 17, 2015 at 02:15 pm

This might just be me, but when I think of a "power back" I think of a bruising, punishing style of runner. Someone like a Lynch, or Alstott, or Adrian Peterson (although he's special because he can also be more of a finesse runner).

To me guys like Lacy are more of a finesse style of runner who just happen to have a big frame but because they have a big frame everyone sees them as a big, powerful back who will run you over.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 17, 2015 at 05:05 pm

Walter Payton was a power back without being physically large, imo. Maybe Emmit Smith. Not too many without the size though.

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hobbes's picture

December 17, 2015 at 06:12 pm

I think Lacy can pick and choose how he wants to attack a defense, much like Lynch or Peterson. Also keep in mind a lot of times he's the recipient of delayed handoffs and pitches that lend themselves more to a "finesse run".

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lou's picture

December 17, 2015 at 11:52 am

I am as puzzled as anyone as to why on short yardage 3rd and 4th downs they not only don't make it enough but tend to loose yardage on the plays. We have 2 quality athletes at center, they move their feet well, have good balance, and can get down field, but are they powerful enough in these situations ? Scott Wells did have that strength level to succeed but he was no where as athletic as Linsley and Tretter - just a thought some one may want to comment on.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 17, 2015 at 02:12 pm

I don't think it's that out of the ordinary. There are a lot of guys at the line expecting a run. If one of them gets by the offensive line, it's likely going for a loss. There is a higher chance of it happening on 3rd or 4th and short than on first or second or in a longer distance so maybe it just appears to be happening a lot by comparison?

The Packers have 6 plays that have gone for negative yards on 63 rushing attempts with one-yard to go and it being 3rd or 4th down since 2013.

For comparison, looking at three pretty run-heavy teams: the Seahawks have the same number (6) on 67 attempts, the Vikings have 2 negative plays on 57 attempts, the 49ers have 7 negative plays on 61 attempts.

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Dan Stodola's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:23 pm

In short yardage and goal line situations the DL want to get low and get underneath the OL. Having athletes on the OL in that situation doesn't really matter much. Low man will get penetration and the DL are usually able to get into a lower stance than the OL. Then it becomes a matter of the RB finding a crease and hitting it hard.

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D Ernesto's picture

December 17, 2015 at 04:48 pm

My best friend was on a championship high school team that won numerous state titles over schools three times there size.
He told me the coach beleived in using both a speed back and full back intermingled. Use the big back to wear them down and then insert the speed back when they were tired out in the third quarter.
Sounds like Sabin football at Alabama.

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D Ernesto's picture

December 17, 2015 at 04:52 pm

I'll never understand while genius mike did not go for the juggler against Seattle. You got the best Qb your inside the 20 and you run run run run and get nowhere. It only costs them the superbowl appearance. Don't say genius to me. It was frrrrrrrekin Dallas for gost sakes. They've won 4 games

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 17, 2015 at 05:33 pm

These numbers are something of a revelation to me. What I lack is context. I wonder what the league average is for scoring from the 1 yd line, even just on running plays? Great article tho - no matter how much research the author does, I always seem hungry for more data - sorry Mike.

Our OL is not all that good at simply moving the guy opposite them back. Bakh cannot do it. A healthy Sitton can. EDS, Saturday (and Wells - see above) could not do it. Linsley can, but not as consistently as one would expect. Tretter cannot. Lang can. Bulaga is average at it at best. Kuhn no longer moves people - he gets in their way (Ripkowski might help in that regard at some point in the future). We have not had a TE who could run block in ages - no, I do not think Crabtree was particularly good at it either.

On the goal line, the DL tries to get lower that usual, since they are not as worried about stacking and shedding and seeing the ball carrier. I see DL essentially give themselves up to allow a guy behind them to make the play. It is a bit of a different technique. I would like to see someone with good football IQ address the technique issue.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 17, 2015 at 07:26 pm

There have been 4,729 plays run in the NFL since 2013 where a team needed one yard to get a touchdown or first down. Of those 4,729 plays... 3,347 were run plays and 1,382 were pass plays. So 70.8% of the time teams run and 29.2% of the time teams pass. Compare that to the Packers: 62.4% run and 37.6% pass.

NFL Success Rate: 65.2% (Packers 62.4%)
NFL Success Rate on runs: 69.0% (Packers 66.0%)
NFL Success Rate on passes: 55.8% (Packers 56.3%)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 18, 2015 at 09:26 am

Thanks very much,Mike. The stats are still a revelation to me. 3% less than the NFL average and we noticed? I wonder if GB's defense gives up a higher % than the NFL average, making us think our offense is bad from the one yard line.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 18, 2015 at 09:45 am

The Packers defense over that time frame looks like this:

Overall: (offensive) Success rate 72.6%
Run attempts: 76.7% (75.9% success rate)
Pass attempts: 23.3% (61.8% success rate)

Looks like you have a great point here. The Packers run defense has been atrocious on one-yard plays and teams are running on them three-fourths of the time. The pass defense has also been really bad, even compared to the Packers pass offense.

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SpudRapids's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:44 am

Stats are very limited in their scope of explaining something... For example since the parameters on these stats narrow to one yard or goal to go, it neglects whether or not he defense has stopped them 2 plays prior from the 5 yard line. That will wear a defense down if they just sold out on two consecutive run plays from inside the 5. I would like to see the Packers defensive stats on goal to go. Might give us a better picture.

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Dan Stodola's picture

December 17, 2015 at 07:46 pm

The DL in short yardage and goal line situation only care about getting low and underneath the OL. Low man wins has always been the motto. If the DL can get underneath the OL they can get deeper into the backfield and effectively move the LOS backwards. Making it more difficult for the RB to get past the LOS and into the end zone. It also creates gaps where the LB can fill and get to the RB before he crosses the LOS.

I don't know if there is an actual name for the technique, but that is the reason the DL tries to get so low.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:56 pm

Pad level and leverage.

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Oppy's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:48 am

I've heard it referred to as torpedoing, sinking, subbing, zeroing, and 'blowing him the f*@! up'

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 17, 2015 at 06:00 pm

I was hoping that when AR was pushing up the middle he would have just raised the ball up and reached it over the line. Perhaps a jump and lunge. I think Cam does that a lot. I know it puts the ball out there where it can be punched out, but we only needed a few inches. And Rodgers has big hands. Do players go over the top any more?

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Dan Stodola's picture

December 17, 2015 at 08:25 pm

Brady and Cam always jump and reach over the top. That works very well for them. I wish Rodgers would do that. He just kinda tries to get between the OG and Center and pushes forward.

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mrj007's picture

December 17, 2015 at 09:22 pm

Oh boy, appreciate the analysis and at first was excited that FINALLY I would be reading the facts about 3rd and short in 2015 compared to other years of for no other reason than to prove what I have watched so far - that GB sucks converting 3rd and 4th and 1 on an epically bad level in 2015 compared to any other year dating back to 1990 or so. But was disappointed that the analysis diluted the recently shitty performance by the Packers on any short yardage situation. I would bet this team this year is among the worst no matter who running whatever play called. Pretty much I would rather see the Packers dominate on 3rd and short to the tune of 80 percent or more from now until the end of time. Because right now 3 or 4th and 1 is a 50/50 proposition and it is super frustrating to watch

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Dan Stodola's picture

December 17, 2015 at 10:19 pm

Not during the Ahman Green era. He was considered about the best short yardage RB in the NFL for most of his GB career. Rarely ever came up short in those situations.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 18, 2015 at 09:18 am

Sorry to disappoint.

Looks like the one-yard to go success rate has been dropping dramatically.

But here is what you're looking for:

2013:
Overall: 66.18% success rate
Run attempt: 60.0% (82.1% success rate)
Pass attempt: 40.0% (42.3% success rate)

2014:
Overall: 60.3% success rate
Run attempt: 62.1% (61.1% success rate)
Pass attempt: 37.9% (59.1% success rate)

2015:
Overall: 53.2% success rate
Run attempt: 66.0% (54.8% success rate)
Pass attempt: 34.0% (50.0% success rate)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 18, 2015 at 09:31 am

Holy cow (no pun intended) Mike! These stats look like a really good story. I really appreciate the article, and your following the comments (which you often do), and adding even more.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 18, 2015 at 09:36 am

Thanks TGR, it's appreciated.

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mrj007's picture

December 19, 2015 at 04:44 pm

Not disappointed anymore! This is EXACTLY what I expected. I hope they improve 'cuz the 14% drop means less TOP and more work for the D not to mention fewer plays per game. 70% would be great!

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:02 am

I sometimes forget about the LIKE button at the end of the articles. Be sure that I went back and gave a thumbs up for this article.

Really, it has been like peeling an onion, especially getting more and more data in the comments. The focus of this article easily could have been the decrease in the offense's success over the last 3 years, and perhaps the defense's lack of success. But it is all good. Kuhn stats are a revelation too.

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MikeReuter's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:22 am

Thanks, I admittedly do look at the number of likes as lame as that is.

I wrote the article because really I wanted to see how Lacy performed compared to everyone else, but as you said, as we've peeled the onion further and further in the comments, this really could have (and maybe should have) been more about the Packers offense and defensive success on one-yard plays. There's a lot more interesting info on the team-side of things overall than I thought there would be.

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Oppy's picture

December 18, 2015 at 11:37 am

My guess as to why Lacy sees considerable success rate increase on short yardage to score vs. short yardage to convert:

When the ball is 3rd and short in open field, Lacy is not attacking the LOS looking to get one or two yards to move the chains, he's tentatively approaching the LOS looking for the optimal hole or cutback lane to attempt to find daylight and break off a chunk of yardage.

When the ball is on the goal line, Lacy KNOWS all he CAN get, and all he NEEDS to get, is ONE Yard. He drops his pads and hits it. Period.

Lacy does not run like a big power back in the open field, he attempts to finesse his way to large gains instead of getting north and south first, and worrying about bonus yardage after the fact, and I have always felt he has failed to prioritize getting what is needed before worrying about breaking the big one when it comes to sustaining drives on 3rd down carries.

On the goaline? There literally aren't any extra yards to go for, so he runs like a power back and doesn't waste time looking for the 'perfect' run. Just takes what is needed.

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cinpackback's picture

December 19, 2015 at 08:22 am

Still wheezing from a hike, with a new appreciation of the efforts Eddie Lacy makes. Remember when your brother held you underwater a bit too long and you came up with your lungs bursting and thinking you'd never get your breath back? I bet that's how Eddie feels when he plays at his superhuman level. Asthma sucks. We expect a lot of him and he delivers - but try to remember he's not Superman.

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