#PackersDaily: I hope they kneel

Aaron chats with Packers fans worldwide about all things Green and Gold, including a whiny section of the fanbase who won't shut up about players possibly kneeling for the anthem.

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lowcsp's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:02 am

Thanks for the last couple of years but now I'm unsubscribed and done

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josefK's picture

August 07, 2020 at 05:17 pm

finished also - you are a preening scumbag

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 03:24 am

Thank you for staying just a couple of days. CHTV gets a little better. Again.
You must love Vince Lombardi

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:54 am

You made CHTV a better place.
Go watch Fox News, Conspiracy theories, flat earth and stuff should be better for you. You want be missed, even you are here only since yesterday?

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mamasboy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 05:08 pm

Fast moving mouth...slow moving mind. You must be one of the maybe 50 people who watch MSNBC and actually believe what they hear.

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Roninwave's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:32 am

Love your show but if you are going to turn it into political commentary see you as I will be gone. You hope it pisses me off-ok how about if we stop following Cheesehead TV? Will that piss you off? You are entertainment don't be stupid and kill your golden goose.

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 04:03 am

We far pass that point where people care about money (besides the organge loooser of course). You have to stand up for the right things that are normal and basic. Had nothing to do with politics. And if we do nothing against the fringe right there would be no use for money in this world anyway.
Lot of people will pissed off if unvincentlompardi people will be part of the packers family.
So everything is good and thancks for the good news.

But as you only here since a couple of hours, you may be only a russian troll anyway. So actually the idiot here posting something back....

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ghostdog1108's picture

August 09, 2020 at 04:02 pm

And you talk about conspiracy theories.................., door knob..............,

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IceBowl's picture

August 09, 2020 at 04:45 pm

fastmoving ..... your posts (and grammer) may lead someone to think you are the troll. Maybe the Russian troll, as you accuse, or Ukrainian, or Chinese or German?

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Tarynfor12's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:57 am

Nagler being so dismissive of how others are offended by those kneeling, while supporting those who deem everything offensive not on their agenda or part of their narrative. A true Leftist.

I guess this political comment by me will also be taken down because only one side here gets to be political, though Nagler and party will conclude kneeling isn't a political issue, neither is BLM, AntiFA, White Supremacy and especially COVID-19.

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 03:44 am

Actually only the fringe right has an agenda. All the other just trying to be good people.
It has nothing to do with politics......

all people with a brain (Dems or GOP) just know that the Dumbest alt right have take the country down and all rules it was build of.
Time to send the Fox News gys where they belong. Would be funny to see how the dumb, cowards who are afraid of everything (mostly working and fighting) to build a country.
All they can do is tearing something down, like we see since 4 years every second.

You can build something on proaganda, hate and idleness, just to get some tainted money out of it for your personal gain. We are lucky if we have something left so save after a sucker like Trump runs us into the ground. And that has nothing to do with politics only with common sense.

And if you want to talk politics...compared to Trump Reagan was a leftist. You must be from the KKK to look note like a leftist compared to the orange wig and his minons. Never thought it comes that far. And very sad, even the whole world is laughing about us.

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edp1959's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:04 am

And here is your typical liberal POS who doesn't have the intellectual ability to debate a subject so they move to personal attacks. You are the ones the world is laughing at.

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fthisJack's picture

August 08, 2020 at 03:43 pm

You're describing your cult leader you douchebag!!!LOL!

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Gman1976's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:51 am

Only the fringe right have an agenda? Look at what the fringe left is doing to our cities. Your prideful ignorance is blinding you.

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sonomaca's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:01 am

My last post. I’m unsubscribing to everything Cheesehead TV. Out.

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 04:05 am

thanks good!! unsubscribe the Packers do.......could be only good for all of us. Like the thumbs up showing......

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Coldworld's picture

August 09, 2020 at 02:26 pm

Losing good commentators is never good.

If all you want to do is hear yourself vindicated, one of us is on the wrong place. Naturally, from your posts, you will be certain it’s me.

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TheVOR's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:19 am

I think the NFL underestimates who their actual paying fan base is, as do the players underestimate who's actually paying their salaries.

I think everyone can get behind equality and equal rights, but when it's attached to Violence, Terrorism, Beatings, Crime, Damage to Cities and Store Fronts, Damage to people, and last and hardly least, Marxist Communism, I WILL NEVER SUPPORT IT...

THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE on this one brother, we couldn't disagree more!

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:14 am

good thing, when the orange cowords leave, we all can only win....

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fthisJack's picture

August 08, 2020 at 03:47 pm

But you do support that fucking Nazi in the WH?

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August 08, 2020 at 05:10 pm

Do you even know what a Nazi is? IDIOT!!!!!!!

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August 07, 2020 at 11:35 am

Good bye to all those leaving. You won't be missed.

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gmeyers1's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:36 pm

I'm with you. The guys who don't want politics, really just don't want politics that's different from their own. The word that describes that point of view starts with an h.

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josefK's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:27 pm

well I like Nagler but he is an arrogant wealthy liberal fool. He won't reply because he is an arrogant virtue-signaling scumbag who never lived outside the US as I have, as well as in the real NYC which is Manhattan - not cheap Astoria - and then he brag's about being from NEW YORK CITY - Astoria is not Manhattan and you are a drunk liberal virtue signaller who never lived outside the the US - so does not appreciate the liberties in the Bill of Rights many of my family have died for - you cheap scumbag

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:07 am

It's all part of the metro area. Many Blacks have also served and died, then went home to segregation. You're language precedes you're ignorance.

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stormin's picture

August 07, 2020 at 08:33 pm

Who wants to be associated with an asshole like you anyway !

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:49 am

Very disappointed that Nagler chooses to dismiss vets who have sacrificed for this country as “whiners”. I would consider this an absolute failure to even try to understand the other person’s point of view. Shame on you.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:49 am

Very disappointed that Nagler chooses to dismiss vets who have sacrificed for this country as “whiners”. I would consider this an absolute failure to even try to understand the other person’s point of view. Shame on you.

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Guam's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:02 pm

I have to strongly agree with you on this on LH. While I understand the tactic the kneelers are employing to make their point, there is a legitimate opposing point of view. When we stop listening to each other and one side just dismisses an opposing point of view as whining, that is very wrong.

While I am not leaving CHTV, I have lost a great deal of respect for Aaron Nagler. Shame on you Mr. Nagler. You are no better than the whiners you decry.

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Leatherhead's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:48 pm

Guam....they should choose a different form of protest. I’m opposed to racial inequality and police brutality, but I’m also opposed to people disrespecting my flag and country. I’ll never support this.

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Guam's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:08 pm

I also would prefer they choose a different form of protest but for somewhat different reasons. I have lived abroad for a fair chunk of my adult life and seen several other cultures "up close and personal". All of these cultures are surprisingly mono-ethnic and decidedly interested in keeping their culture mono-ethnic. Coming back to America from this perspective has allowed me to marvel at our incredible ethnic diversity and multiplicity of cultures. The unifying theme of this incredible montage is that we are all Americans.

I worry we when choose to pick at the symbolic ties that bind us (flag, anthem and country) and what that does to our nation. Ask Spain about Catalonia or Basque or Japan about its ethnic Korean former slaves and you get an idea of what that can do to a country. I just hope we don't reach the stage of undoing the ties that make us all American while trying to rectify problems.

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:14 am

HOW IS KNEELING DISRESPECTFUL !!! When I was watching the Olympics and a back fist was raised, that was a bit much because it could have been misconstrued .

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Bure9620's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:15 am

Let me guess....a form of protest which would be acceptable to you.......

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:56 am

Made it pretty clear, KNEELING.

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Gman1976's picture

August 07, 2020 at 09:10 pm

I suspect Nagler and most kneelers are not vets and suspect that they are quite ignorant of history and blinded by their pride, ignorance, privilege and comfortable lifestyle. I could only listen for about 4-5 minutes of his rant in which he denigrated those of us who supposedly don’t listen and don’t agree with being divisive and desecrating sacred national symbols that represent truth, freedom, equality, strength, peace, unity, hope and those who have sacrificed their lives to give these special values and dreams for all Americans and people around the world.

As a veteran, a lifelong Packer fan, and regular reader of Cheeseheadtv, my guts have churned when divisive politics take precedence over healing and unity and just enjoying the game of Packer football. As a white man who was literally attacked by local fireman with a baseball bat, because I brought a black friend into our white neighborhood, l have zero tolerance for racism (whether it’s by whites or blacks. I’ve seen hatred on both sides). I also have little tolerance for those who show disgust and disdain for those us who love our country and the few sacred symbols that everyone (yes, most everyone no matter what political party or color) used to respect when I was growing up.

Aaron, I am saddened that you don’t realize the poison that you have injected here. I have enjoyed your football. commentary and personality, and enjoyed the banter and insight here; but I am not sure how much I’ll be coming back to the site. This country is coming apart from the seams, and I don’t come hear to listen to those of you who are divisive and just can’t love and respect your fellow Packer fan because he or she is different.

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:15 am

Don't change the wording, he didn't say vets are whiners.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:09 pm

The solution to this is so simple it's ridiculous. But first, let me say that I am a Vet who served, and it doesn't affect me or bother me at all. I'm not going to let the actions of a few people I will never meet, offend me.

The solution? Stop playing the anthem at games. Why do they even do it in the first place? It's a football game, not a political rally or Presidential inauguration. During the playing of the anthem, how many fans are actually standing and paying attention anyway? At LEAST 1/3 of the fans are either trying to find their seats or standing in line to get some overpriced crappy "food" or watered down beer.

Don't watch the playing of the anthem if it affects you so profoundly. Then sit back and enjoy the game. Pretty damn simple.

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Tarynfor12's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:46 pm

Yes, many people in the stands aren't giving the attention the Anthem deserves before the start of games. But you miss again the point. Standing and the removal of ones hat while in view of the Anthem and Flag is the sign of respect. Of course people will fidget, continue to get their hot dog etc but their all standing, and we understand they're not being disrespectful on purpose and that is different from those that kneel. Every nation plays their Anthem before a sporting event. Only an Anti-American would consider its abandonment altogether.

The solution to a problem or issue isn't always simply stopping whatever. We have an entitlement problem with illegals, let's just stop it. We have an education problem, lets stop teaching. There are criminals all over the country doing harm, let's abandon all law and order. Do you believe doing these are also the solution? Well, the abandonment of the National Anthem is the way to start, especially if you hate this country.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 07, 2020 at 02:00 pm

Believe me, the last thing I want to do is get into a back and forth with you. I've learned in the past it's pointless.

I simply asked a legitimate question. Why does the anthem have to be played at sporting events? It's called having a dialogue. I never said to abandon our national anthem and you know it. There are many more appropriate places to honor it other than a football game. And to go off on all these other tangents, like abandoning our education system or trying figure out our complex immigration system, and that I hate this country from that....wow!

You have your views on this subject. I have mine. Let's leave it at that.

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August 07, 2020 at 01:36 pm

I'm sorry, but I can't just let this "hating America" thing go unchallenged.

I've lived in this country for 70 years, paying taxes for 50. I've raised my wonderful family here. Coached their various little league teams. Watched them graduate high school, then college. Becoming a proud grandparent. I faithfully served in the military when I was called upon to do so.

If that's your definition of being Anti-American and that I hate this country, simply because I don't share your views on this topic, it's you who are being disrespectful and missing the point.

Please, no need to respond.

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Tarynfor12's picture

August 07, 2020 at 02:37 pm

I've been a natural born citizen for all my 65 years and no matter what I have done, as you mentioned of yourself, the solution of not playing the Anthem is anti-American,period.

The no need to respond is a sign of a single view only mentality, Leftist, and I will never be silent or not respond, especially when told to do so.

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bjkdad44's picture

August 07, 2020 at 09:42 pm

Why do you have to say “leftist” then?

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Bure9620's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:48 am

Because everything is poltical for those people...To them " The left" are somehow more evil than actual American adversaries now.....like Russia putting out bounties on American troops heads. ...... for those people in the bubble the bounties are not an issue...it is "the left" and "the media" and the "deep state"....and players kneeling for the anthem protesting and creating awareness for social injustice....they are the bigger issue.....it is a struggle of good vs evil for them, just watch Fox news for one evening, the bubble is quite interesting.....

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Since'61's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:27 am

Fox News is nothing but a propaganda show. As an entertainment network they are not required by the FCC to provide actual or accurate news. They can literally make it up and often do.

Fox News is news of the imbeciles, by the imbeciles, for the imbeciles. They should have their license revoked, but we have free speech so they are allowed to perform as the Goebbel’s news network. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Lphill's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:19 am

So I guess your a big MSNBC fan , the home of censorship.

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Bure9620's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:40 am

No that would be the strategy of the executive branch.......MSNBC does not tear gas and disperse people whom peacefully assemble and exercise their 1st amendment liberties.......

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IceBowl's picture

August 10, 2020 at 12:19 pm

Bure9620 ...."peacefully assemble?"

I would not call throwing bricks, cursing, climbing the fences, etc. a "peaceful assembly."

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Bure9620's picture

August 10, 2020 at 12:35 pm

None of those actions were happening in Lafayette park

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IceBowl's picture

August 10, 2020 at 04:08 pm

Bure9620 ........ yes they were. Maybe not on main stream media, your source apparently. For example, a brick to the back of a head ..... stitches..... happened.

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Since'61's picture

August 08, 2020 at 12:48 pm

Lphill, No, almost never for MSNBC.
My news sources include The Wall Street Journal, The Financial Times, The Economist, NPR, PBS, BBC, Reuters, Bloomberg, The International Herald Tribune, The New Yorker and the National Review, the Sunday NY Times and several online subscriptions to Asian, European and South American Journals. I also get numerous medical journals from my son who is a doctor. Which is good during this era of Covid 19. I’d rather be informed by professionals who know what they are talking about than airheads on TV or from a President who rejects science and who tells the American people “It is what it is.” While Americans are dying. I’m sure that was a great comfort to the families and friends of the sick and dying.

At least half of these periodicals would not be considered “progressive” leaning. I need the mix of sources to keep up with
both domestic and international politics and finances for my Mergers and Acquisition business. Although I’m retired I still have several clients who have kept me on a personal retainer so I need reliable unbiased sources to the extent possible. Plus I prefer to see how the International press looks at the USA. They are not very impressed I can assure you of that.
Speaking for myself I usually know the news MSNBC or Fox or other US networks provide before they go on the air every evening. Except for some local stuff. You should try a few of these sources. Find out how the informed live. Thanks, Since ‘61

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August 09, 2020 at 10:24 am

Since'61,

You just performed what is considered by most, a "mic drop".
Kudos.

In the age of access to information like never before, more and more people make the decision to be truly uninformed, and allow their world view to be shaped by organizations with a political agenda, instead of seeking out information from many sources, and making up their own minds.

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August 09, 2020 at 07:47 pm

Yawn

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splitpea1's picture

August 09, 2020 at 10:05 pm

Just give yourself a conk on the head with a crab mallet--it's better than listening to the drone of the Energizer Bunny with his incessant chatter.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:39 pm

Owned by a foreign oligarch, how Patriotic.

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splitpea1's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:52 pm

Virtually all news outlets are propaganda shows, dum-dum. Calm down--you're starting to sound like the biggest imbecile out there yourself.

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August 07, 2020 at 11:48 pm

"We play sports so we don't have to fight wars and we play sports, so if war is thrust upon us we know what price of human sacrifice it costs to play."

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August 08, 2020 at 12:55 pm

Really??? If you think playing sports is anything like going to war you really don’t have a clue about anything.
Join the service. They will tell you when to stand, when to kneel, when to march, when to eat and when to shxt. And then go into combat and you’ll see quick if you survive long enough how sports and war are nothing alike.
Dumbest comment of the year and it’s only August.

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August 08, 2020 at 12:54 pm

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:01 pm

"Dumbest comment of the year and it’s only August."

Too funny!!

I can tell these clueless knuckleheads are getting to you. Unlike some of mine, your comments are usually very levelheaded and calm. But, man, they're coming out of the woodwork over this topic.

The almost comical irony in all this is, the ones claiming the kneeling is disrespectful to Vets, then turn around and disrespect those same Vets when we disagree with their views, and say we hate this country. Or, my favorite....any Veteran who doesn't stand for the anthem is a traitor. How do you even attempt a dialogue with someone like that?

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August 09, 2020 at 01:28 pm

You seem to have all the answers and insult everyone who disagrees with you . It’s disgusting you claim to be a vet and approve of kneeling in protest while the flag is flying . When I was digging for body parts at the WTC every body part was removed with a flag draped over it , fingers with wedding bands on them , a fireman’s foot in a boot etc.. I will never forget that you are just a keyboard warrior nothing more, irrelevant.

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August 09, 2020 at 05:15 pm

Whatever security guard.

What does any of that have to do with unarmed black men being killed by police? Please try to stay on topic.

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August 08, 2020 at 01:06 pm

What an absolutely idiotic comment. What "human sacrifice" is involved with playing sports? Please enlighten us how playing sports gets us ready for war.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:29 pm

Obviously you never heard Knute Rockne speech about football and war .

You must be a DemocRAT

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August 08, 2020 at 01:33 pm

And obviously you know nothing about what it's like to actually go to combat.
Stick to your video games.

By the way, Knute Rockne never served in the military. So there is that....

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Oppy's picture

August 09, 2020 at 10:27 am

Remember what I said about how you're stuck on what you've been taught and told?

Just because a legendary football player/coach said it, doesn't make it accurate or insightful.

Think.

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August 11, 2020 at 01:07 pm

You may have been a Boy Scout but not a veteran you know about the stolen valor act? Your just a keyboard warrior.

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August 07, 2020 at 05:49 pm

Yeah, yeah there are plenty of people on this blog that have served. Ignoring the issue doesn’t make it go away. Other sports play the Athem too before games. It is played in the Olympics. Since when is standing for the Athem a political thing? I would think that everyone would rather live here and show a little respect for the country that offers more opportunities than any other place on this planet. If you don’t like it there are a lot of people willing to trade places with you. City mayors and city Councils are the reason police problem exists. If you want the problem fixed quit electing a crappy local officials. Don’t protest the country.

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August 09, 2020 at 12:18 am

There wouldn't be football if it weren't for Knute Rockne going to court when they wanted to ban football because they said it was too violent and giving his speech on how vital sports is to teamwork, dedication, sacrifice, planning, toil, sweat ,blood., leadership, leaving it all on the field, listening to orders, helping your team mates. The Courage , desire and will yourself and team to WIN!!!
These set the foundations of what it is to be an American!! AMERICANS LOVE. WINNERS!!! WE ARE BORN TO WIN!! And, you DemonicRATS call yourselves Americans.

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August 09, 2020 at 09:42 am

Ah....that great American, Knute Rockne.

Oh wait...he wasn't American. He was Norwegian!

So a football coach from Norway, who never served in the military, is your example of a great American warrior that we should pattern ourselves after. Got it.

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August 10, 2020 at 08:11 am

You have to excuse the Fox News people for not being big on facts.

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August 07, 2020 at 07:18 pm

Timothy McVeigh was a vet too , any vet who feels it’s ok to disrespect the flag is a traitor very simple.

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August 08, 2020 at 10:09 am

Actually a President who lies to the American public on a regular basis and pays hush money to porn stars is the traitor. And don't come back with the..."yeah but Bill Clinton" crap. He was morally bankrupt as well.

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August 08, 2020 at 03:00 pm

Clinton another big money pawn, but where is the indignation from the "patriot's den" of like-minded fools trained by fuchs noise regarding the Bounties paid by donny's buddy Vladimir to the Taliban to kill U.S. Soldiers in the Hindu Kush mountains. In my book that is the definition of a collaborator. Maybe they need to take a trip in an ultra-light and get chased by a Sam-75.

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August 10, 2020 at 08:14 am

And Private Bonespur who squirmed out of serving his country is your hero? What fucking planet did you people come from?

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August 08, 2020 at 10:17 am

No! watch the National Anthem and see how the KNEELERS are TRAITOROUS to our country and then TURN THE TV OFF!!!

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August 08, 2020 at 10:46 am

Forget to take your meds today?

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splitpea1's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:46 pm

Why don't you take your childish inflammatory chat elsewhere and stop acting like a little weenie? Grow up. People obviously have strong feelings one way or the other, so why stir them up unnecessarily? This subject has already been discussed ad nauseam anyway and most fans are familiar with the others' stance on the subject. If you can't come up with a better or less contentious item of discussion, take a break until you can.

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:16 am

you just can turn it off, just like everyone did with your posts....

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August 08, 2020 at 01:31 pm

All Democrats NEED to be on MEDS they are ALL MENTALLY DERANGED!!!

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August 08, 2020 at 05:50 pm

And you're a shining example of a Republican. Wow

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August 09, 2020 at 10:33 am

It's not politics that makes someone this way. It's fear and ignorance.

The majority of people are fairly center of isle, may lean right, may lean left.

The lie is that what is portrayed on TV- the extreme right wing, the extreme left- is what represents ALL conservatives and liberals. There is a silent majority in the middle who roll their eyes and wish the extreme idiots would shut up because they give the majority of their party a bad name.

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Bear's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:48 pm

They can take a knee at the coin flip doesn’t have to be during the national anthem.

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Duneslick's picture

August 07, 2020 at 12:57 pm

I never thought Aaron Nagler would back a racist group. This is now morphed in to BLM

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:34 pm

A group started by Marxist’s and now run by American Terrorist Susan Rosenberg, pardoned from prison by Bill Clinton on his last day in office.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:41 pm

How about NO KNEELING and just PLAY!!!

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:18 am

how about with just kneeling and no playing

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 08, 2020 at 03:06 pm

How about the Brothers go on strike and you can watch the semi-pro rejects from MMA battle on your sacred gridiron.

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:17 am

Brees is so right.......

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:19 am

you can never have a more dumb and racist group than Trump an his looosers

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Leatherhead's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:49 am

A fighting words insult to 65 million of your countrymen, including veterans, law enforcement, first responders, truckers, farmers, construction workers, etc.....

When they start fighting, you won’t have to wonder why.

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fordguy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 12:21 pm

Patiently waiting for the spark and then we'll see how those mouths work.

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fthisJack's picture

August 10, 2020 at 08:29 am

You're in the minority, dude. What you going to do when you lose your cult leader in November? Start shooting?

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frankthefork's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:18 pm

Hypocrites. Why should anyone's opinions or beliefs affect anyone of us? Love whom you want or leave. Who appointed any of you as the judgement maker? We all have choices and the same freedoms. End of this story...and get on with living, giving and understanding.

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Since'61's picture

August 07, 2020 at 09:51 pm

Works for me! Thanks, Since ‘61

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:20 am

TRUMP 2020!!

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Since'61's picture

August 08, 2020 at 12:57 pm

2043! That’s the date you should keep in mind. I’ll let you figure out why.

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fthisJack's picture

August 10, 2020 at 08:35 am

They will never pick up on that one "61! Scared white cracker asses be leaving in droves. LOL!

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Vet1976's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:23 pm

You are blind...and an ignorant ass. Bye Bye Ass Hole.

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Samson's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:35 pm

Aaron Nagler... you couldn't be anymore correct. (As a fellow AHSE alumnus, I applaud you)

Just ignore all the sheep that follow that moron in the WH... Their days are numbered. (88 to go).
Kneeling has to do with inequality in the US... It has NEVER had anything to do with the flag, military or patriotism for this country... ---- The sheep who follow donald duck need to become informed & at least attempt to make their own decisions based on truth.

Here's some homework for the sheep... Research & find out how the trumper avoided any military service.

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:35 pm

Check out hiding Biden’s 5 draft deferments.

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Nate-1980's picture

August 07, 2020 at 06:17 pm

I don’t support trump but support my country.. I hope trump wins so your Demi ass can wine for four more years.. You’re gross, yuck..

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DenePhillips's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:37 pm

When the fan stops paying, the players will start STANDING!!!

Let other teams do what they want.

GREEN BAY PACKER FANS WILL STAND FOR THE FLAG!!!

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:22 am

How can you support our country, when you watch how a old orange coward turned it into the biggest mess since 200 years???
It may be already to late for America and I was a Republican

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edp1959's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:06 am

Yeah tell another lie, you have never been a republican or a conservative.

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Adorabelle's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:45 pm

You would have hoped the insanity of 2020 would provide some perspective to peaceful protests. But I am getting to the point of Nagler. All the ones who keep saying they are out, how come they are still here to keep telling us they are out over and over? Be gone already. Everyone is doing this now. You are on the wrong side of history at this point. The NBA put BLM right on the court and their jerseys. Baseball has entire teams and managers kneeling and wearing BLM patches on their uniforms. Hockey players are kneeling. Soccer in other countries are all kneeling. The Aussie Rules game had all the players kneeling and wearing a BLM shirt during warmups. Every tv show and movie has a statement right on the credits or on twitter in support of the movement. So if this so offends you that you are out, please be out already and go away. Maybe there are puppet shows or Fox News you can still watch but otherwise the entire world has gotten behind this.

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Samson's picture

August 07, 2020 at 01:56 pm

Thanks ... A very truthful post... I agree, all those offended with the much needed cultural changes in this country are living in the past.

They need to leave CHTV... instead of just saying it... do it!!--- (and take all your ids with ya)

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BAMABADGER's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:10 pm

The BLM "trend/fad" is a false narrative. I would encourage all Packer fans watch the police body camera of the initial arrest of Mr. Floyd. The police showed extreme restraint. The tape had to be leaked to British media because the MN State Attorney General would not allow it's release. He and the incompetent Minni city leaders could have minimized the urban riots, murders, and destruction by getting these body cam tapes to the press immediately. In short, the toxicology report showed Mr. Floyd to be a walking overdose drug addict time bomb. Fact, the coroner's original autopsy determined cause of death was a heart attack. Fact, the DA told the coroner to change the autopsy conclusion to asphyxiation. All the rioting and murders were/are political in nature and continue by AntiFa and the BLM political organization. The media, some politicians and BLM political organization have convicted these officers without a fair trial. Should the officer have held Mr. Floyd down with a knee to the back of the neck? No... however allow lady justice to work. Immediately raising the anti-police race card led to billions of dollars of urban destruction . I am old enough to have witnessed significant, radical cultural changes in this country and willing to debate them. Individual freedom is imperative and a God given right for all Americans. Everyone has the right to their opinion. For someone to say leave this forum because they disagree with your rational or irrational ideas is either arrogant or to be polite - foolish.

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Adorabelle's picture

August 07, 2020 at 06:57 pm

John Oliver showed a clip from a 1957 news report with a sweet looking lady telling the interviewer that "the problem with this integration stuff is next thing you know they will want to intermarry and be equal with us. "

In 50 years quotes downplaying BLM will look as out of step and make future people amazed past people once thought that. The wheel of time tends toward justice and a world where everyone knows DWB exists and everyone thinks oh well what you gonna do, is a world that requires change.

I am not telling anyone to leave. They are saying it. How they are done over and over. I reckon they must have quit 59 times each now. And how can we miss you if you haven't left yet?

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WisconsinStrong's picture

August 07, 2020 at 08:26 pm

Adorabelle, thank you for saving me from having to express the same sentiment, though far less clearly and powerfully than you have done! I always appreciate your passionately intelligent posts. I would only add this question for the quitters: how did they arrive at the notion that they alone are sustaining the team, and that all will crumble when they leave? If they would leave--and leave space within which a more diverse fan base might feel more comfortable--that wheel of time toward greater justice will noticeably have taken us all forward.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:44 pm

You Lie, 'Bama boy. A 17 year old young woman's smart phone showed the world a picture perfect view of a murder, yet you deflect with an inbred bias and litany of disinformation that would make Goebbles proud.

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IceBowl's picture

August 10, 2020 at 01:20 pm

jannesbjoronson ...... funny you would use Goebbles in this conversation. He was one of the highest ranking members in one of the most racist organizations the world has ever seen. Those fascist Nazi's had room for only one race as peers.

And as for whose life matters, why does a black life matter more than mine? They do not. I did not reference "BLM" as they are a fascist/marxist/ socialist (your choice) organization trying to disrupt the US way of life. not necessarily promote any race. And they do not try to hide it. (check their homepage).

And I have to say, if you think that limited clip of the murder was the whole clip/story, you need to rethink before talking. Then you may not sound so uninformed in your post.

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:40 am

Foolish is your rationalization of the murder.

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:03 am

ribbit

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splitpea1's picture

August 07, 2020 at 03:34 pm

Translation: "Baa...." Go back to your fantasy novels.

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:45 pm

Like " the art of the Deal".

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 07:23 pm

And all this disrespect for the flag and law and order will help re elect Trump so maybe you should think about leaving , Cuba maybe?

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The_Justicar's picture

August 07, 2020 at 07:35 pm

How are the people claiming they are “out” any different than the celebrities who stated they would leave America if Trump won the last election? None of those celebrities left. Zero. However, since opening day restart in all sports....ratings are down after the big BLM displays. Except for one sport...the PGA. Which is doing nothing political. The nbas ratings are being impacted the most. clippers vs lakers had less viewers than their pre Covid matchups. They are the only sport that didn’t have any post Covid bump for their new opening day 1. Additionally,. Espn subscribers has dropped 6% already in Q3 compared to last year and we are just halfway through the quarter. With cord cutting espn has been averaging a 1-3% loss in subscribers every quarter the past 2 years so down 6% with half the quarter to go is a huge drop and a direct reflection of the political - and only one side of politics - being thrust into sports. So...I can’t verify people are leaving cheesehead tv because of political takes...but in general people’s displeasure has been seem in espn subscribers and tv ratings.

You rag on Fox News but their prime time news shows is averaging 2-6x the viewers (depends on the sport and day of week) than every sporting event it on at the same time. That is not a misprint...fox is averaging 5-6 million viewers for their news shows while the nba is now averaging 1-2 million during the same time slot. (Had 3.2 million on restart but hasn’t been close to that since).. So not a good argument that everyone is behind it. I’d guess by your statements that you lean left and only follow and listen to and believe tweets and media that angles to one narrative. I hate both sides since I’m a middle ground type of person. I base my opinion on data. Not emotions.

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Adorabelle's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:18 pm

The top five cable news programs for the month of July were as follows: Hannity (4,096,000), Tucker Carlson Tonight (4,020,000), The Ingraham Angle (3,415,000), The Rachel Maddow Show (3,339,000), The Five (3,307,000).

The everyone is behind it I meant was the leagues and the players. They have decided they are doing this. Even the NFL management that tried to tread such a fine line years ago now says they were wrong for not supporting this in the past. The ones threatening they are walking if this happens are waving bye to a departing ship. This is already happening in every sport. The Tweets of players indicate a commitment to this and any loss of fans is not going to dissuade them.

Overall, polls put support of BLM protests at around 63 - 67 % in most polls I have observed. So maybe this explains why even the generally more conservative NFL put its support behind the players.

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Adorabelle's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:42 pm

My personal support of this issue does spring from my living with a black man for the last 4 years. Only time he ever yelled at me was to "shut up" when I was giving guff to the officer that pulled us over for no reason. We all knew it was simply because a black man was driving a nice car in a nice neighborhood. He told me after that every black person just knows they have to put up with that sort of thing. So everyone will have to excuse me if I think this is something that's worth getting excited about and for believing change is required.

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mamasboy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:54 pm

Your man friend is wise. Listen to him, and PLEASE SHUT UP !!!!!!!!!

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bjkdad44's picture

August 07, 2020 at 09:48 pm

Agree 100% Adorabelle!

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DenePhillips's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:35 pm

Kneel to GOD. Stand by the FLAG

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:07 am

So you realize that kneeling is not disrespectful.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:33 pm

To God !!!

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:25 am

Just right Adorabelle, but this conspiracy theorists will always find some stupid shit to turn it around. Say Trump dumb and that means brain death

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fthisJack's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:43 am

Old scared white racist cracker ass MFers...Trump's pathetic base....the end is near assholes.

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lowcsp's picture

August 09, 2020 at 06:26 pm

at least you dont sound racist

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fthisJack's picture

August 10, 2020 at 08:45 am

I am white and I despise you white racist wimps....you have no place in today's America! Accept that we are all equal or get the fuck out of Dodge!

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Lphill's picture

August 09, 2020 at 08:05 pm

Says the racist . What a loser

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WMA's picture

August 07, 2020 at 02:13 pm

I have no issue with the kneeling. A thought came to mind how when kids in school would kneel to pray they were breaking the school rules. I had no issue with that either. Thought the idea behind this country was that all are allowed to voice their opinions and like here agree to disagree. How we are agreeing to disagree has become the issue. One more thing ..... Go Pack Go.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 07, 2020 at 03:16 pm

I totally agree. To have people label you anti-American because you have a different opinion than theirs is a virus in and of itself. Covid-19 will eventually go away. Unfortunately, the 'thought police' never will.

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flackcatcher's picture

August 07, 2020 at 02:34 pm

THANK GOD IT'S FRIDAY..... :-)

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Mooreken70's picture

August 07, 2020 at 03:01 pm

Look at all these hit dogs hollarin'!!!! Nah nah nah nah.... Hey hey hey.... GOOOODBYYYYEEE....

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stormin's picture

August 07, 2020 at 08:37 pm

Yeah, goodbye to you Moekern70, you are just a sniveling coward hiding behind your PC !

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:38 am

thanks good this unmoral loooosers leave now. Nobody want them here anyway. Most of them are as coward as the orange and russian trolls anyway

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lowcsp's picture

August 09, 2020 at 06:33 pm

i have tryed to read your posts and i have to ask what color is the sky in your world

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BamaBob's picture

August 07, 2020 at 03:11 pm

I come to CheeseHead TV to get away from politic. I wholehearted agree with ALL LIVES MATTER, but stick to football PLEASE.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 07, 2020 at 10:39 pm

Screw Football!!! We don't play football before the National Anthem. We play it before! Now ask yourself why?

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Oppy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:31 am

You need to ask yourself a lot of questions.

All you do is stuck to what you've been told and taught, but you've never asked yourself what any of it really means.

Question things and think.

Most of what you have posted here in the last few days equates to "Standing for a song that represents freedom, justice, and equality for all men, is more important than actually being concerned that all men enjoy equality, justice, and freedom."

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dfarmer's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:06 pm

could have been solved when Kapernick started it.. We all have the right to protest, etc legally. BUT NOT AT WORK.. DO IT ON YOUR OWN TIME..

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Oppy's picture

August 07, 2020 at 06:59 pm

It's really not your business if they do it at work or not. If their employer allows it, that's THEIR business, not yours.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:24 pm

That is why I VOTE!!

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Adorabelle's picture

August 07, 2020 at 07:49 pm

That is way too overly simplistic. My job also doesn't have 80,000 people paying to come watch me do it. My job doesn't have 12 television cameras capturing it and announcers commenting. To not acknowledge the difference between their platform and exposure and mine is disingenuous. Kapernick chose his time and place to protest because he knew the attention it would garner. He could have given a few thousand talks on the topic and never got close to the exposure kneeling once received. He wanted it to be uncomfortable for us and hopefully start a dialogue.

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Packers0808's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:37 pm

I am no longer a young man, Football player or never was a vet! As it was I was a social Studies teacher for 37 years and learned to accept the beliefs and concepts of everyone no matter their stance to these types of actions. Too much intolerance in this nation today!

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DenePhillips's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:34 pm

Colin K. is a low lying scum bag!!

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:18 am

Ironic how the kneeling for the most part bothers the racists that caused it in the first place.

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:42 pm

Aaron when BLM first marched in NYC they chanted , what do we want dead cops, i was a NYC cop , I will not watch any sport that panders to the BLM , I will read about it in the Paper but I will not give any team air time on TV , I will not order the Sunday ticket to see the Packers like I do every year. I guarantee Jerry Jones will not allow it in his house . I think very little of you for supporting kneeling . Maybe you live in a bubble.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 07, 2020 at 06:46 pm

You were not a NYC cop. You were a glorified security guard. Let's stick to facts. Nobody cares what Sunday ticket you subscribe to.

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 07:14 pm

I was a NYC housing authority cop laid off in the fiscal crisis then went to dept of Correction and chose to stay there , but you must have been a dick all your life a real keyboard warrior.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 08, 2020 at 08:32 am

Like I said....a glorified security guard. Not a member of the NYPD.

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:36 am

Come on , wrong reaction! You can't blame him for getting upset at that.

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August 08, 2020 at 11:11 am

Normally I would agree with you. But this yahoo constantly questions people's patriotism, courage, etc. I just wanted to point out him embellishing his "I was a NYC cop" claims. Being a corrections officer is definitely NOT the same thing as being a member of the NYPD.

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Lphill's picture

August 09, 2020 at 09:00 am

And like I said you were and are a dick .

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lowcsp's picture

August 07, 2020 at 08:24 pm

Nice lots of tolerance here

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fastmoving's picture

August 08, 2020 at 02:42 am

Trump loooosers never stay to facts, they rather listen to alt right trolls like Ingram, Carllson or how this russian paid conspiracy theorists are called......
They brought this former great country down and Im not sure how will we explain to our childreen why we did nothing against it as the dumb and unmorals came in in 2016

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:25 pm

You Hate God!!

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:27 pm

SOCIALIST/ COMMUNIST !!! GET OUTTA HERE YA BUMB!!

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 08, 2020 at 03:19 pm

Quit berating your russian-loving agent-in-chef, donny trump. Toss in Moscow mitch while you're at it.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:26 pm

Go ask his white mother and his white step parents who gave Colin C. everything!!!

Black father disappeared when the mother was pregnant and she made sure he went to a well to home.

Ungrateful piece of. ahhhh

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mamasboy's picture

August 07, 2020 at 04:47 pm

"the protests literally have nothing to do with football". I watch several news stations every day. That's where I want to hear political opinion, not on the Packer podcasts I listen to. By the way, the protests don't have much to do with black lives, either. If they truly were, they'd wear the names of the black children that were gunned down in Chicago (by their fellow African Americans) over the last couple of months, on their jerseys. The most recent being a black life that was ended last weekend, after only 9 years . I didn't even listen to the last 17 minutes of his podcast.

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Adorabelle's picture

August 07, 2020 at 07:22 pm

There are several hundred organizations in Chicago working on the problem of violence. The Chicago Youth Program, the Dovetail Project, the Westside Cultural Foundation, Urban Initiatives, Future Ties, Blackstone Bikes, Apna Ghar, Blair Holt Peace Alliance, CeaseFire Illinois, Center on Halsted, Chicago Citizens For Change, Chicago Safe Start, Crosswalk Chicago, Kids Off The Block, Moms Demand Action, Little Black Pearl, Purpose Over Pain, UCAN Chicago, and the Safer Foundation are a few to start with. Since 1990 the violent crime rate is down near 50 percent. So progress seen and a lot of work yet to do. Since I know you are worried about this so much I gave you a good number of choices to donate toward.

BLM has a different purpose and is working to address the belief that minorities have zero chance of receiving justice when dealing with the authorities. It is working to bring to light the systemic police brutality and racially motivated violence that exists.

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 07:27 pm

BLM was started by several Marxist’s , now Susan Rosenberg is behind it collecting money for the Democratic Party . Oh and she is a convicted domestic terrorist who Bill Clinton pardoned on his last day in office.

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bjkdad44's picture

August 07, 2020 at 09:59 pm

LP... broken record

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:28 am

He can't help he's an old LP, Hahaha

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DenePhillips's picture

August 07, 2020 at 11:38 pm

All those organizations are doing a pretty crappy job. How about give GOD a try.

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Oppy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:33 am

Jesus would kneel during the anthem, and stand by people of color in the face of police brutality.

Think.

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PeteK's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:02 am

WOW,Thank you, blurry eyed after that. :)

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:38 pm

No JESUS would NOT knee for the Flagl!!

Give unto GOD what is GOD's!! Kneel

Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasars!! Stand

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fthisJack's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:57 am

Racists will never accept BLM........and there are hordes of them out there kissing the Orange POS' fat ass!

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 01:40 pm

Bigot

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mamasboy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 04:13 pm

Anyone with a brain sitting between their ears rejects BLM, Jack. They're a Marxist organization that couldn't care less about black lives. They want to tear down our society and replace it with a "utopia" like CHOP in Seattle, or that paradise they call Portland.

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DenePhillips's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:16 pm

3 fingers pointing right back at you when you're doing the pointing.

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fthisJack's picture

August 10, 2020 at 08:59 am

BLM is here to stay...get used to it boys.

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mamasboy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 04:01 pm

I wouldn't donate to any of them. It wouldn't do the black community one bit of good. Several hundred organizations working on the problem of violence, and still they have one of the highest murder rates in the country. What has the murder rate been since 1990 ? I'll bet that's not down by 50 %. "Minorities have zero chance of receiving justice when dealing with the authorities". That's a bald faced lie!! If they wouldn't keep giving the authorities reasons to, they wouldn't have to deal with them at all. 13% of the population, while committing about 40% of the crimes. You're another one suffering from "white guilt" syndrome. Bending over backwards in an effort to make sure everyone knows you're not a bigot.

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 07, 2020 at 05:20 pm

Generally I am against mixing politics into this site. I tried to avoid it for a LONG time and I generally do, but now I pretty much respond when people raise it because so many people feel the need to bring it in.

As I would think everyone should know by now, Kaepernick developed the option of kneeling after consulting with a veteran. I'm a veteran. Kneeling doesn't bother me.

I'm also a lawyer who has worked with two different police forces. I've served both Republicans and Democrats. There is no world in which what happened to George Floyd should be acceptable to anyone. There was simply NOTHING that he did to justify the level of use of force that he received. And there really is NO good reason to kneel on anyone's neck EVER.

To me this should not be a political issue. This should be a human rights issue. Unfortunately, everything is political now. If you choose to look at this through a political lens that is your choice. I disagree.

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Lphill's picture

August 07, 2020 at 06:40 pm

You might want to watch the real video footage leaked out recently and also read the Minneapolis police manual where it advises how to use the knee held to i the kneck , the media hid all this , it actually may exonerate those cops.

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Oppy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 07:34 am

Or, you know, it might actually prove that police tactics are barbaric and actually need to change.

That's the other side of the coin.

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edp1959's picture

August 08, 2020 at 09:10 am

Then why did the AG try to hide the footage and admit he did it because he wanted to make sure there was a conviction. He didn't care about justice, just wanted to railroad someone. Typical liberal POS just like you.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:53 am

"Then why did the AG try to hide the footage and admit he did it because he wanted to make sure there was a conviction."

I would love to see a reliable link to where this AG admitted intentionally withholding video evidence to ensure a conviction.

In what universe is it ok to kneel on someone's neck for 9 minutes, the last 4 minutes or so after he had lost consciousness?

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jannes bjornson's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:57 pm

You would have to know russian to read their fantasy facts from pravda.

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 08, 2020 at 10:24 am

I haven't found any source where Ellison admitted that he tried to hide footage. Only that Tucker Carlson speculated that this is what happened. And this is exactly the type of rude post that makes me not want to bother trying to discuss things with people.

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edp1959's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:10 am

Here is the quote that Ellison made to the Washington Post. How about not being lazy and do some research. There is also a video out there of this interview, I saw it.

“I’m a firm believer in transparency, and the public’s right to know, but a higher priority for me is a successful prosecution,” the AG told The Washington Post. “Therefore, I’ll consult with our lead investigators and I’ll say to them, ‘When can we release this information to the public and still safeguard the prosecution?’ If we can do it before [trial], I would have no problem with doing that, but I am reluctant to do anything that would undermine the prosecution of this case.”

There, he is more concerned about a prosecution than letting the public know the truth.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 08, 2020 at 11:46 am

Still missing the part where he admitted "hiding" video evidence to railroad someone.

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Oppy's picture

August 09, 2020 at 10:05 am

Evidence, it's a thing. And if you give up too much evidence to the public, it can sway a jury, and lead to mistrial. "Prosecution" and "prosecution of this case" happens regardless of the desire to find guilt.

Please don't be so lazy and learn about the legal system so you can assess the context of these statements.

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edp1959's picture

August 09, 2020 at 01:06 pm

This is about the...no actually it is the most ignorant comment I have ever heard.

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Oppy's picture

August 09, 2020 at 09:41 pm

Feel free to detail exactly what it is I said in that comment that is ignorant.

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13TimeChamps's picture

August 10, 2020 at 09:21 am

You're the one making ignorant comments. Learn how the legal system works before making asinine comments. What Oppy said was 100% correct.

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Oppy's picture

August 09, 2020 at 10:09 am

Something I've long understood, and I think a great number of people today could stand to learn, is that liberals and conservatives are people.

I work with people everyday with vastly different political views. We all get along, respect each other, and, (gasp!) most of us like each other, too.

Most of us have more in common than not. We want to raise our families and see them grow up and do well, do our jobs and make enough earnings to be secure for retirement. We want to enjoy the company of friends. Laugh. Live. Be treated fairly and with respect. See our country do well.

There was a time when the great majority of Americans realized that despite being left or right, we all want basically the same things, and just because someone might have a different idea of how to go about it, doesn't make them any less human, or our enemy. You can agree to disagree and still understand that most of us are all moral, decent human beings, generally striving for the same things in life.

If I were sitting next to you on a bar stool, we'd probably get along great if you didn't ask me what my politics are. Also, if you disrespected me by calling me a POS for no reason other than my politics, you'd no longer find yourself in your barstool.

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edp1959's picture

August 09, 2020 at 01:12 pm

Ohhh...do you feel like a big boy now? Does sitting behind that keyboard and trying to be tuff make you feel better Skippy. Just remember no matter how tuff you liberal POS think you are there is someone out there that can quickly change your mind.

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Oppy's picture

August 09, 2020 at 09:38 pm

My point is that YOU are the keyboard warrior.

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mamasboy's picture

August 08, 2020 at 04:25 pm

"police tactics are barbaric" Sometimes the police are dealing with some of the most barbaric creatures on this planet. Should they beg people to let them put cuffs on them and politely ask them to get in the cop car? THAT'S the other side of the coin.

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