Packers Question of the day - What can Allison Bring?

The most talked-about undrafted wide receiver in the offseason and preseason is finally getting his shot. After being promoted to then 53-man roster as a result of Jared Abbrederis being placed on IR, Geronimo Allison sits at the bottom of the team's depth chart. But nevertheless, a place he would gladly be considering he turned down opportunities to play with other NFL teams just to stay on Green Bay's practice squad.

Abbrederis didn't see very many snaps this season - only 24. But that number would've likely increased now that the Packers are beginning to incorporate more wide-outs into their offensive scheme. Trevor Davis, Ty Montgomery and even Jeff Janis have seen the field sporadically. More so Janis and Davis, as Montgomery has been part of the gameplan on a consistent basis.

If Allison does get the call to action, can he bring something unexpected to the team's receiving corps?

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Zachary Jacobson is a staff writer/reporter for Cheesehead TV. He's the voice of The Leap on iTunes and can be heard on The Scoop KLGR 1490 AM every Saturday morning. He's also a contributor on the Pack-A-Day Podcast. He can be found on Twitter via @ZachAJacobson or contacted through email at [email protected].

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Razer's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:40 am

Not sure about the plan for another 7th WR. Other than the last game, we had little use for all the wide outs. The move may indicate that MM and AR are moving on from Jeff Janis. If the guy can't figure out the offense and his route assignments then get someone who can?!

Just hoping that he gets used and we aren't fed a bunch of 'Aaron's trust', 'personnel package', 'comfortable with the scheme' excuses that mark this offense. Bring him up, get him in the game and use him - I think we'll be surprised.

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fastmoving's picture

October 26, 2016 at 02:13 pm

same can be said about janis plus he has answered always the bell. no idea why it turned out that sad but he would a be far more productive wr everywhere else. adams plays 25 games and needs 100 chances to have a decent showing. would they givin that kind of chances to janis he would be probably already a standout wideout not just in green bay.
geronimo is cool but just a possession receiver and maybe a big red zone target. but it all depends if ar likes his haircut (trust him).

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Tundraboy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 02:05 pm

Don't know what you really have until you put him into a real game. Hope we catch lightning in a bottle. We could certainly use it, and wll especially need it over the next 6 games.

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stockholder's picture

October 26, 2016 at 02:14 pm

I doubt that. I believe they have moved on from Abbey. Remember Abbey was a short route runner too. Allison now has his chance to be the new Abbey. I've seen several articles also stating, Lacy may not be re-signed. So you get injured it's GOOD-Bye! (You just fall to far behind. ) The thing you guys aren't seeing is the competitiveness of Janis. If Davis can open the field up and catch the ball. You will see Janis released. (But not until then. ) The biggest thing with Janis is, we know he has the physical tools. It's up to A-rod to get them out. But does he want too? Or can he with his problems. Janis has taken a lot of shit, with an injury. He may feel he's just banging his head against the wall. No one will stay on this team unless he feels wanted or needed. I believe Janis will leave the packers on his own.

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sonomaca's picture

October 26, 2016 at 04:15 pm

It would be very interesting to see what goes on in the Packer locker room and at practice. Does Janis "talk back" to #12? Is Janis lazy, as has been claimed? They love Adams just about as much as the hate Janis.

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Duke Divine's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:42 pm

JANIS CAN'T READ A DEFENSE!!!!!

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:49 pm

He cant read a menu

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Tarynfor12's picture

October 26, 2016 at 05:57 pm

Janis leaves GB and goes to NE where Brady and Belichek get more from him than Mr Trust and Mr Fundamentals cannot comprehend to do.

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:02 pm

Janis has contributed almost nothing and yet he is taking up space. Why? How can any team afforc to keep a gy like this. Ya special teams whoopi do.

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NickPerry's picture

October 27, 2016 at 06:11 am

I guess it's the same question Vikings fans have asked themselves about Patterson. He finally did a little something, something a week or 2 ago but for the most part he's been a BUST, BUST, BUST. Janis was a 7th rounder and is a gunner from hell, Patterson is a first rounder who has done nothing outside returning a few kicks years ago.

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:02 pm

Janis has contributed almost nothing and yet he is taking up space. Why? How can any team afforc to keep a gy like this. Ya special teams whoopi do.

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fastmoving's picture

October 27, 2016 at 01:07 pm

yeahhhh he just had a better playoff game than (in the only one he really played) 95 prozent of all receivers in the nfl ever have.
but you probably have no idea what im talking about when it comes to football...............

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holmesmd's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:12 pm

Huh?! WTF are you talking about? If JJ voluntarily quits the Packers, I'll buy you a Ferrari. SMH. Really?

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croatpackfan's picture

October 27, 2016 at 03:53 am

You mean "Matchbox" Ferrari, don't you?

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stockholder's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:01 am

JJ will not voluntarily quit. He'll leave when his contract is up. But I think your still going to see a turn -over at WRs. ( The next couple of years. )

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2016 at 07:58 am

It would be a shame to let Janis go without fully exhausting all attempts to develop him. He's essentially a 2nd year player who has barely played, and flashed as much if not more than a lot of other higher picks we have waited endlessly for.

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dobber's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:24 am

I find it interesting that just about any WR discussion on this blog ends up being about Jeff Janis...

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 27, 2016 at 06:37 pm

Despite Stockholder's 5 dislikes, he was right about GB moving on from Abby. TT just released Abby with an injury settlement.

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PETER MAIZ's picture

October 29, 2016 at 06:40 am

I totally agree, we were talking about Geronimo?

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:57 am

Allison could see the field. He has really good size, good speed, and good hands.

Many thought Allison should have been on the 53 at the beginning of the year. Many thought Allison would contribute faster then Davis and that they should have kept him over Davis.

I think he can provide another weapon for the offense. Perhaps he could be a redzone target with his size.

In McCarthy's last press conference he said that Allison was clearly a different receiver today then he was in week 1.
I have to admit, that gets me a little excited because if he is that much better now then he was then, how good is he now? Because he was pretty good back then.

We will see how much he plays, but I would not be surprised if we see him play a quite a bit Sunday.

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Tarynfor12's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:58 am

" In McCarthy's last press conference he said ".......

McCarthy gas proven that what he says needs to be backed by what he does with it afterwards and here is where he is a big up your arse smoke blower.
Don't tell me Mike....just show me.

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holmesmd's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:20 pm

Your consistent optimism leaves an indelible mark on this site. SMH. You may want to split time cheering for the Vikings and raining a negative poop storm on every single aspect of their football operation. I'm sure you would be warmly received. SMH. I don't really get it. You bet against GB every week. You're negative Hemingway post after post. There must be an NFL team that you could approve of and feel good about? You strike me as a "Patriots bandwagon sort of fan" Lol. "BB, you didn't win every game, you're too inconsistent...blah blah blah" "Brady has lost his skill....if only you had Kyler Fackrel" Eye roll. Come on girl.....just sayin;)

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Tarynfor12's picture

October 27, 2016 at 07:00 pm

I'm a realist and the best fan is the fan that accepts when a team or individual players or coaches do not perform to the level needed and refuses to sugarcoat things to hide them.
Every one knows McCarthy's press conferences are filled with bs and yet I call it out and I'm burned at the stake. It's ok I feel your denial and will take the fire.

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Tarynfor12's picture

October 27, 2016 at 07:06 pm

I bet to win money regardless of the team. I bet with my head and my head has been right a lot for 15 years in Las Vegas. If you bet against the Packers when I do, you'd win also. But you go with your heart with the Not Ready For Prime Time Players.....good luck.

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rdent's picture

October 26, 2016 at 10:11 am

Good size and good hands but has 4.67 speed,although he could be that big body down the middle that MM has talked about.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2016 at 11:10 am

I get the argument about his speed. But there have been plenty of WR's that didn't run blazing 40 times that have been great players.

I'm not saying Allison will be great, but I think he can be good and can contribute starting Sunday.

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rdent's picture

October 26, 2016 at 12:02 pm

Oh ya, there is a long list of WR's with average or below average speed, (Jerry Rice 4.56's and Anquan Boldin 4.71immeadiately come to mind) that have had successful careers, I like Allison's size,can high point the ball and use his body to sheild off defenders, given a chance I think he could do alright. Plus at 6'3" 193 lbs has room to get stronger.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2016 at 12:12 pm

Oh Definitely... Jarvis Landry ran around 4.61 I think?

I agree on your take with Allison. He has good size. Perhaps he will come in and have a similar impact as Boykin had. When Boykin first came in and played he was really good. Then he fell apart, but when he first came in, he played well.

Allison has the ability to high point the ball. Something that our current group of WR's don't really do. Adams does a bit. Nelson to a lesser extent.
The redzone could be the area where we see him used more.

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holmesmd's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:23 pm

Umm, Janis is the quintessential "high pointer", is he not?!

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Duke Divine's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:49 pm

Agreed. I'd bet that he will have more receptions through his first 3 seasons that Janis through his first 3. Especially if given the same exact amount of targets. The difference is in the tape. Alison is more fluid in his breaks, sets up defenders well, and has way softer hands. Janis is a great gunner and tough as nails competitor but not much of a polished WR. Geronimo has those refined details that are the difference.

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Ferrari Driver's picture

October 26, 2016 at 11:42 am

Jerry Rice, for the record, ran the dash in 4.59 seconds according to Bill Walsh and he had a decent career.

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rdent's picture

October 26, 2016 at 11:44 am

More than decent,one of the best of all time.

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PETER MAIZ's picture

October 29, 2016 at 06:46 am

You'd call that "decent"?

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NMPF's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:48 am

Probably not a lot at first look. Maybe use the Jared Cook route tree to take advantage of his size. Can't be used to block like a TE but he could cause some real headaches running seam/crossing routes against a LB or S.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

October 26, 2016 at 12:11 pm

"Can't be used to block like a TE"

his blocking can't be any worse than Richard Rodgers...

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:49 am

Depth in case of another injury... Why would take Adam, Monty, Cobb, or Nelson off the field... especially when Cook gets back?

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rdent's picture

October 26, 2016 at 10:14 am

Cook is still weeks away.

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rdent's picture

October 26, 2016 at 11:50 am

High ankle sprains are bad news, look at last year after Montgomery suffered one, shelved what started as a promising rookie season.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 26, 2016 at 12:19 pm

After what happened to Montgomery last year, I would be more then happy for Cook to sit out longer. Make sure its fully or mostly healed before trying to play again.
Not only Montgomery but Adams last year as well. Lacy and Randall this year...

Need to be smart with these injuries..

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:08 pm

What is this wih needing 7 recever?. Whatis this with cooks ankle? What is this with fat ass r rgers thinkng he can be a tight end? What is thies with davis catching punts and not playing? What is this with davante showing up against piss por defenses? Ghis team is n horrible disarray. Defense offence game 8?

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PETER MAIZ's picture

October 29, 2016 at 06:49 am

Al, are you from Germany or something? You seem to lack the ability to spell.

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 08:08 pm

What is this wih needing 7 recever?. Whatis this with cooks ankle? What is this with fat ass r rgers thinkng he can be a tight end? What is thies with davis catching punts and not playing? What is this with davante showing up against piss por defenses? Ghis team is n horrible disarray. Defense offence game 8?

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egbertsouse's picture

October 26, 2016 at 11:34 am

Based on MM's past use of the 7th WR, I think what Allison brings to the table is a butt to warm the bench.

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rdent's picture

October 27, 2016 at 10:31 am

Yep,come hell or high water MM seems determined to have 7 WR's on this roster even though they can still use another RB.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:57 am

This is the first year he has ever had 7 on the roster... dude can't predict injuries at RB

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rdent's picture

October 27, 2016 at 10:28 am

Ya,I get that,nobody can predict injuries and there aren't a plethora of street FA RB's which is why TT made an uncharacteristic trade for KD and brought up Jackson (who also was injured after one series) leaves them once again with one healthy RB as of Wednesday who doesn't know the playbook,puts Abberderis on IR and fills that roster spot with another WR makes little sense, at least bring in another body at RB until Starks comes back.You totally missed the point.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 27, 2016 at 01:17 pm

Maybe it tells us that MM is committed to running the offense that they used against the Bears and not going back to the stagnant offense before. He is probably committed to going 4 and 5 wide a lot more so he wanted the extra body.

You also forget that Allison may contribute on special teams for Gunter and Goodson now that they have been pressed into starting roles. We can't afford more injuries at CB so it makes sense to fill those special teams with receivers.

I think you are forgetting the nuances required to manage a roster

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 27, 2016 at 06:43 pm

Having trouble imagining Allison on STs. Exactly what position would he take? Way too slow for gunner. Too thin and too small for wedge. Nuance (love that word - one always looks smart using it even if the point one makes is downright idiotic) be damned.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:27 pm

Keeping 7 was entirely a reaction to last year. Didnt go to 4 or 5 until O stalled. Getting a 3rd RB next year will be a reaction to this year.

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Duke Divine's picture

October 27, 2016 at 12:01 pm

egbert,The voice a reality

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rdent's picture

October 27, 2016 at 10:30 am

That comment shows how out of touch with reality you are!

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Duke Divine's picture

October 27, 2016 at 12:03 pm

egberts comment is reality whether we like it or not. #truth

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stockholder's picture

October 26, 2016 at 02:20 pm

#1 yes, #2 yes, #3 yes #4 The trouble is A-Rod. The packers have to go short until he starts hitting downfield like the old A-rod. Everyone is talking about how A-rod is just mentally not there.

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dschwalm's picture

October 28, 2016 at 12:18 pm

You're right. Rodgers "checked out" after the Denver game last season. Ready to retire with Olivia

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 04:46 pm

Ditto. Juzt cant add anything.

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 07:57 pm

Ditto. Juzt cant add anything.

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x24's picture

October 26, 2016 at 02:39 pm

"Separation"

If the current receivers can't get separation because of the offensive scheme, I can't see Alison, or any other receiver, making that much of a difference.

But if the inability to get separation is due to each of the 6 receivers we now have on the roster, maybe Alison will make a difference

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dobber's picture

October 26, 2016 at 04:19 pm

Likely to fill a role on ST if he's active on Sundays, but not much more than that. I'm not sure that he'll even be active on Sundays, but I have to admit that if he wasn't going to be active, they could've addressed other areas of need on the roster with his spot.

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sonomaca's picture

October 26, 2016 at 04:24 pm

Here's a move TT should make: Re-sign Lacy now, when his value is down a bit. In that way, they don't have to draft a running back high.

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 04:44 pm

Luv it. Or cut the sob for beoing so fat he wrecked the run game of this yeam for two years now. S mu h for ted putting all his eggs nthis basket

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holmesmd's picture

October 26, 2016 at 09:31 pm

You are a complete nimrod and don't know what your talking about. There is this thing called "Google" where you can actually look something up before you open your pie hole. SMH. Here is some homework for you. Look up what Lacy did his first 2 seasons. The ENTIRE offense was a dumpster fire last year. This year, the guy was averaging almost 6 yards/ carry?! Do you even attempt to have a string of cohesive thoughts before you vomit upon us with your negativity & ignorance? Painful AF.

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PETER MAIZ's picture

October 29, 2016 at 06:58 am

It would make sense to draft a WR high so that Rodgers would have a real weapon.

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al bundy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 04:32 pm

If he makes the field he will be lucky. Think about it, if he lights it up, abby is gone and so is r rogers.

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Spud Rapids's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:58 am

He is a receiver... why would he displace R Rod

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Tundraboy's picture

October 26, 2016 at 06:05 pm

From his preseason which was promising, he would add height and an aggressiveness to the WR position, but Abby had a very good preseason and then was almost never used. So who knows or has even a clue how he will be used. What I do know is we need some help. Cook is out, RRodgers is so SLOW as to be useless, and as we all know, he goes down so easy, YAC is non existent. Jordy is still getting in shape, Janis and Davis still aren't ready and even if they are, ARod doesn't trust them, which leaves Cobb and Adams, and some Monty.

Somethings gotta give, and I mean something positive like Adam's last game.

Personally I want to see everyone used and in my dreams, slants, reverses, sweeps......

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October 26, 2016 at 06:17 pm

I'm not expecting much from Allison but you never know. I would like to see him get a few snaps just to see if anything is there. After 3 seasons of Abby and Janis delivering virtually nothing as receivers it's time to see if Trevor Davis or Allison have anything to offer. I'd rather find out now rather than waste 3 seasons on them like we've done with Abby and Janis. We should chuck Abby after the season. Janis has contributed on ST coverage and that could factor into keeping him, but if T. Davis and Allison prove they can contribute then chuck Janis as well and move on. This season is proving that we have neglected the offense while building up our defense in the draft. Time to focus on retooling the weapons available to A. Rodgers. We need speed and more physicality like Monty has provided the last 2 games. For now we have nothing to lose by giving T.Davis and Allison some snaps. If we find that one of them can play we'll be better off than we are now. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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fastmoving's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:58 am

actually janis and abby to a lesser degree contribute a lot if given just a couple of snaps. But this does not lead to more playing time in green bay like it would had at any other team. so it all comes down if 12 trust (likes) you, nothing else.
geronimo was impressive (good hands, knack for making a play) in preseason for whatever its worth (abby was the preseason mvp if i recall it right) it, but he should help in the red zone a lot. Davis on the other hand got a few snaps, with not much targets and a bad drop...........

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PETER MAIZ's picture

October 29, 2016 at 07:01 am

Very well said and thought out, since 61.

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October 26, 2016 at 06:33 pm

I don't get the hype on Allison. He's not fast. He's tall (although not super tall) for a WR. His vertical is below average. He's somewhat strong, but not Anquan Boldin strong.

I guess he could sit behind Davante... wow.. can't believe I said that.

I was actually excited to see what Abby could do in this spread attack in short zones. :(

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stockholder's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:18 am

Allison caught everything in camp. I felt he could replace Adams right away. Then Adams gets the best game ever. Now they have another problem. Rodgers liked Abbey. But as were seeing small does not stay on the field. Abbey is gone or will be in the next camp. Adams is still hanging by a thread. The spoiled brat has to produce. If he has not turned the corner after his last game, he is gone after his contract runs out. Adams is feeling pressure. As is Janis. But I saw something in Janis last game. The 2 catches, and he wanted more. He wants the ball! A-rod threw to Adams. Montgomery is the #3 WR now. He sets up Cobb and Nelson, and is more valuable then Janis, Davis,Allison, or Adams.

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dobber's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:29 am

"If he has not turned the corner after his last game, his gone after his contract runs out. Adams is feeling pressure. As is Janis."

Good. Every one of these guys should be feeling pressure every practice and every week.

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Handsback's picture

October 27, 2016 at 07:24 am

Allison has something that I believe none of the other Packer receivers have and that's superior body control. The old WRs that caught tons of passes w/o great or even good speed (ie. Raymond Berry) run very precise routes and have outstanding body control. That's a difference between keeping two feet in or catching the ball OB.
I'm no expert or even slept at a HI Express last night; so I can't tell you how precise Allison's route running is, but his body control allows him to catch passes with his hands when other can't get into a position to make a play on the ball.

As far as Janis and is intellect, he's not stupid. He may have the highest Wonderlic score of any of the WRs. I think he's just dumb about being a pro WR. If he continues to do what he's doing as a gunner.....he will stay on the roster a long time.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:10 am

I agree about Allison's body control. He is smooth for a bigger guy too.

I get that Janis had a steep learning curve coming from a small school, and hasn't mastered their offense yet. But I still don't get why the Packers can't find ways to maximize his strengths. He has proven to be a playmaker. Find ways to use him on offense. He may never be a great WR. But that doesn't mean they can't find a way to use him.

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dobber's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:22 am

I agree that there are places for his skill set in the offense, but when you put a guy on the field and it telegraphs that he's going to run a go or a 10-yard crossing route, he's easy to defend.

I think this is why Montgomery was so successful last week: in the past, the Packers didn't run many routes for Cobb or Monty out of the backfield. You could bet that #12 was going to hand them the football. There was really no reason to scheme against him out of the backfield. We'll see how he does this week with over a full game of tape on him for Atlanta to dissect and scheme.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:52 am

I get that. If they having him running simple go patterns all day that would be easy to defend. I'm just saying they should be able to find ways to get him the ball a couple of times a game. Jet sweep even... Last year he caught a 5 yard crossing route and gained 35 yards or whatever on it.

I agree that a big reason why Montgomery was successful is because no teams have had to defend that before with the Packers offense. But what that also will do is free up players downfield because it will not make the Safety's or LB's have to pay attention to him coming out of the backfield. Which that will create an opening downfield for a WR.

I hope McCarthy schemes for that. If Atlanta schemes to take Montgomery away, that he uses that to his advantage.

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fastmoving's picture

October 27, 2016 at 09:11 am

Mostly I agree, while I believe Janis has a chance to be a good wideout (good size, even better speed and the knack for making plays). But it seems to me he has to play against mm and ar sometimes.
Compared to Adams who has a lot of limitations by himself, I can not see why he ist getting not more chances. Same thing with Abby, while am fear his carrer could be in serious danger.
At least Allison looked like a guy with good hands and decent size, we could use him in the redzone pretty good.

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October 27, 2016 at 06:49 pm

Generally agree. Jordy has excellent body control, too, though.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 27, 2016 at 08:36 pm

Exactly,RC. I think back to that short pass /long run he had in his first presesaon game. Like we get at times from Cobb, and now Monty.

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guzzi2000's picture

October 27, 2016 at 11:40 am

They brought Allison so up so give him a fair chance and use him. He appears to have strengths, size, ability to catch. The knock on him appears to be his lack of speed. Every time I hear the speed thing mentioned it reminds me of some of the great receivers of the past. The one I think of the most is Steve Largent who was not big, not overly fast 4.5 - 4.6, but ran precise routes and caught everything thrown to him. Scored 101 td's in his 13 year career. I'm not saying Allison will ever be a great receiver, just trying to point out that speed isn't everything. Coach the hell out of him on precision pass routes and see what happens.

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PETER MAIZ's picture

October 29, 2016 at 07:10 am

Geronimo may be a work in progress but may prove to be part of the equation.

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