Packers Question of the Day: Expectations for Sunday

It'll be the 114th meeting between the Packers and Vikings this Sunday at U.S. Bank Stadium -- a venue in which the Packers have yet to emerge victorious in after just one game

The Packers are riding the hot hand of Aaron Rodgers, an improved pass defense and a three-game win streak whereas the Vikings have yet to figure out their quarterback conundrum. Whether it's Sam Bradford or Case Keenum under center, Matt Barkley demonstrated last season that even some of the league's less than impressive quarterbacks have their day against a porous defense.

The Packers defense, however, is no longer "porous." 

What are your expectations for Sunday?

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Zachary Jacobson is a staff writer/reporter for Cheesehead TV. He's the voice of The Leap on iTunes and can be heard on The Scoop KLGR 1490 AM every Saturday morning. He's also a contributor on the Pack-A-Day Podcast. He can be found on Twitter via @ZachAJacobson or contacted through email at [email protected].

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:06 am

Victory is my expectation. I expect to see Aaron Jones make an impact in this game and I expect the Packers to get both Kendricks and Bennett more involved against the ViQueens with a quick passing offense.

I expect the Packers defense to continue to play well against a Minnesota offense with questionable QB play whether it's Keenum or Bradford and without their starting RB and hopefully missing Stephan Diggs as well.

This is not the time for our defense to turn Bradford or Keenum into Johnny U. It will help if King and/or Burnett can go. If Diggs plays for the Vikes we should cover him with Hawkins and definitely not Randall.

I also expect our LS issues to be gone!
Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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EdsLaces's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:16 am

I mean you know how GB operates right? Randall Or Rollins will be on Diggs guaranteed.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:20 am

Might not have a choice...

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Otto's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:23 am

According to Twin Cities radio, Diggs may be out for the game.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:34 am

...then I have much more confidence in Rollins's and Randall's ability to limit his impact on the game.

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EdsLaces's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:56 am

I still bet he makes a play.

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rdent's picture

October 13, 2017 at 10:06 am

I was glad to see Randalls pick 6 even if it was a a deflected ball but I wasn't happy to see that unsportsman like penalty a sign he still needs to mature emotionally good thing Dallas had that penalty on the kickoff and it didn't cost the defense poor field position.

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A Pickled Packer's picture

October 13, 2017 at 06:55 pm

Troy Aikman made me laugh when he basically said what you did about Randall's maturity, then called it a good play after the kick off and they got a holding call and the ball was placed on the 21, four yards less.

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rdent's picture

October 14, 2017 at 10:35 am

Donny, what would have happened if Dallas hadn't gotten that penalty on the kick off? Great field position. Can't have blunders like the one Randall had it could have cost GB the game.

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Spock's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:50 pm

Burnett is ruled out for the game. Sounds like Ha-ha will be wearing the headset. King still in concussion protocol. Still like our chances.

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EdsLaces's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:21 am

Vikings have such a stout defense even missing a few players. Smith is such a great safety. I'd like to see 12 get the best of him a few times. I'd also like to watch us develop Jones in the backfield I love what he's bringing to our offense. Umm...id like to see Geronimo get involved. Id also like to see some more out of 50 and 27 if possible. Jones should be used more with Burnett banged up. Oh and a GBP win ..duh.

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Turophile's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:36 pm

I'm expecting a bit of a comedown for A.Jones in Minny. He looked great vs Dallas, but Minny has the 7th ranked run D. Their pass D is quite a bit worse, so that is where I expect the Packers to have most success.

The defensive backfield makes me nervous this week, with King and Burnett both probably out.

Hope the Packers are packing earplugs - it's going to be LOUD until (if) the Pack can go 10 points or so in front. Hope the Packers have some gold to cash in, at the U.S.Bank.........

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Johnblood27's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:26 am

My prediction: PAIN!

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Johnblood27's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:29 am

My expectations...

Lets see Mays. Take some of the burden off Jones, lets not run him into the IR with overuse.

AR should stay hot, Adams is flying, Cobb has been dependable, Jordy will score 2.

TE and RB with a lot of receptions.

Martinez with 10+ tackles.

Josh Jones sighting with a pick.

Clay will have a couple sacks, but mostly due to daniels and Perry running Keenum into him.

A solid road win in the new humpty dump.

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CheesyTex's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:40 pm

Spot on! It is time to use Mays and let the injured heal.

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Otto's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:38 am

The Viking's struggled with the Bears.
The Viking's D never makes it easy.
The Packers are 11-3-1 in the last 14 games against the Vikings. I don't think they will route the Vikings, but they will win. 27-21

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rdent's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:39 am

I was expecting Baktiari to be back but according to news this morning he may miss a fifth straight game. It is beginning to become quite apparent that hamstring injury is worse than we are being told. If he misses next week...?

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:24 pm

5 straight missed games with a damn hamstring for an offensive lineman. It isn't like this guy is running deep slants and trap plays. For the Christ sakes, get out there and fight thru it you pony-tailed wearing wimpster. I wonder if he's giving back his game checks for those five games since he sure isn't doing anything to earn them. What a source of frustration. How are you so out of shape in the lower body to strain a hamstring after going through training camp and preseason? Oh wait....training camp only - he only played 20 snaps in preseason so forget that one. But I guess he wasn't straining and stressing himself to hard in training camp either, huh? Does this kind of sound like a guy going through the motions in practice? Sure does to me.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:34 pm

Strains and tears happen for even the best-conditioned athletes. I don't think anyone has ever challenged Bakhtiari's commitment to the game. Why do you assert he was a guy "going through the motions"? I don't see any evidence of that nor have I heard anything to that effect.

Sure he could be a "tuff-guy" and try to grit it out, but if he aggravates it (or he makes it worse) and isn't able to play for 6 more games (or is lost for the season), what have you gained? Are you asking for checks back from anyone else who isn't playing?

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:03 pm

I'll answer that question for you, if I may....if he tough's it out at 80%, at least you get a player that's as good as, if not better than your left guard that's forced to play left tackle, and screw up the continuity of the entire offensive line. Then maybe he fights through it and gets better over two months and then at least you got some use out of his roster spot. OR - worst case scenario, you find out the guy is seriously injured enough you put him on IR and just change it all up with a long term plan for 2017, and at least gain some continuity, if nothing else. It's a joke how they coddle these high dollar players.

To use an analogy....there's days when I have a headache, or don't sleep very well, and I'd be better off at home, rather than costing components for a 25 million dollar business. But guess what, I'm still better off here at 75%, than I am at home where they get NOTHING for my salary. Screw these guys - they're just people, like you and me. Yet they get treated like prima-donna's because they make "the big bucks".

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 04:01 pm

The counterpoint is that if the guy can't play, he can't play.

What does it mean for a LT to be 80% or 90%? If he knows the Packers are better off with someone else at LT as opposed to a Bakhtiari who can't move--noting that a LT has to be able to play in space--and is likely to get hurt even worse, or end up getting #12 killed, then that's a good call on his part...and it opens up a weekly roster spot for someone else to be active.

It's up to the Packers and their doctors to make the 53-man/IR roster moves. Not the player. If the front office feels its better off waiting on his progress, then that's a call they make. They don't get treated like prima donnas based on their salaries. As you say, they're just commodities like you and me. But when the long-term solution is a massive step down to a guy like Ulrick John (who names their kid Ulrick, anyway?), maybe you're better off playing Taylor out of position, putting what you perceive to be your 5 best linemen on the field, and hoping Bakhtiari makes it back. The long-term return on that commodity wins over getting maybe a half of football out of him.

Are we forgetting what happened to Eddie Lacy last fall? This is no different.

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Johnblood27's picture

October 14, 2017 at 12:03 pm

a guy like Ulrick John (who names their kid Ulrick, anyway?),

LOL!

answers:
a) someone with a simple last name like John
b) someone with a family history with the name Ulrick
c) someone who does'nt really want children and has one anyway

His parents could have been very mean and named him John...
John John?

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A Pickled Packer's picture

October 13, 2017 at 07:57 pm

In the rticle I posted regarding Donny Anderson he was saying that back in the day they would deal with hamstring injuries by taping the hammy up to your ass and securing it their, also for rib injuries to tape it high. He also mentioned using fiberglass around the ribs. Man in those days your weren't allowed to be hurt, get hurt or stay hurt. Why don't they do that anymore? Fin's got a point, but when these guys cost millions I guess you need to protect that investment.

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 08:45 pm

They don't do it anymore because of the NFLPA and the CBA.
Thanks, Since '61

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:04 pm

Dup again.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:28 pm

I suspect at this stage that it was probably a pretty significant tear, but not one that required surgery. Remember that Linsley had a pretty significant hammy issue last year, too.

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rdent's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:40 pm

That is what I was getting at. Hamstrings can be a lingering injury but if it was that bad perhaps he could have been put on 6 week IR. Hopefully they can hold up at that position.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:40 pm

Packers had to wait for the swelling to go down before their doctors could take a look. Based on personal experience, it can sometimes take up to a week. Way the Packers are acting, this was a major tear, IR might have been for the best, but when both Spriggs and then Murphy went down that option went out of the window. No choice now, but to wait and hope.

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4thand1's picture

October 14, 2017 at 07:36 am

I said from he start MM would not risk DB for the season. Looks like he may sit him until after the buy. If he's not ready then WTF.

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rdent's picture

October 14, 2017 at 10:43 am

Flack, what sense does that make? "After Spriggs and Murphy went down that option went out the window" if Bak's injury is that bad it doesn't matter who also went down they aren't going to make Bak go out there regardless.

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RCPackerFan's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:58 am

Like the previous games I expect it to be a tough game. The Vikings have a really good defense. Rhodes is one of the best CB's in the league. Smith one of the best Safety's. Griffen is one of the top pass rushers and Hunter is really good opposite of him. They also have a really good ILB with Kendricks.

That being said, even with a wounded OL the Packers offense I think will be to much for them.
Jones I think picks up where he left off. Though I don't think he will put up huge rushing numbers, I think he will have a good amount of all purpose yards.

I think Bennett has a big game as well. He has been slowly getting better and better and more involved in the offense. Don't be surprised if he has a big game. Also Kendricks has made a big play in each game. Expect that to continue.

One defense with Burnett most likely out, I think we will see Josh Jones a lot.

I think it will be tougher but I think the Packers win by 7-10 points.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:59 am

Due to Rodger's heroics at the end of the game we completely dismiss the ease with which Dallas marched down the field for an apparent game winning TD. This defense is still porous, not necessarily because of injury or lack of talent but because of the defensive philosophy of the person most responsible for its implementation. We have CB's playing so far off receivers that I honestly think a high school team would be able to complete short passes and march down the field. Ha Ha plays the whole field so all he's really doing in coverage is acting as a last resort tackler. Watch Smith Sunday and watch Ha Ha and ask see who is closer to the action. Our pass rush is still pathetic, notably at crunch time when we go to prevent D as opposed to the semi-prevent we practice most of the rest of the game. I predict whoever QB's the Vikings will also set personal records. It's what Capers is famous for. In fact I'll go as far as say Capers had hurt this country because his pathetic game planning made Colin Kaepernick a household name and we know where that led. Capers is a national disgrace. Have I gone too far yet? No. Not even close. There are nuclear submarines being readied because of his poor game planning. Ice caps are melting and and the Hunger Games are coming. Can you tell I hate Capers? I felt the same about Hawk. So many years of hate. But the Packers will win easily Sunday. Go Pack.

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 10:42 am

Think about taking a step back from the ledge. From there you might realize that none of this is actually important. Thanks, Since '61

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

October 13, 2017 at 11:11 am

Since'61, You be 1 guy that remembers Donny Anderson. Do you Remember the TV Commercials he did??
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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:23 pm

I remember Donny and his commercials very well. Donny was a good player but not a great player. It didn't help that the Packers collapsed around him after 1967 either. He also went through a number of injuries which ended his career prematurely. He did make some big plays on the game winning TD drive in the "Ice Bowl" which is rapidly approaching it's 50th anniversary this New Year's Eve. Thanks, Since '61

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snowdog's picture

October 14, 2017 at 11:14 am

Speaking of Donny Anderson and Jim Grabowski and playing tough.Both set and signed a contract for an unheard of $400,000 a year ! ! A league record !
Were they treated like prima-donna's because they had big salaries ? No .

Just rub some dirt on it .

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JohnnyLogan's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:50 pm

Of course it's important. North Korea, ISIS, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Harvey Weinstein, the price of grape tomatoes in China... just background noise. Since '61, I enjoy reading your posts but you need to get your priorities straight. Family, G-d, Packers... all the rest. I think if Capers falls asleep again Sunday (was I the only one who saw that gaping yawn?) you'll finally come around. Final aside about Hawk... did he ever look as good as Martinez does now?

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:01 pm

Thanks but I have my priorities straight. Family, Family, Family, then friends, my business partner and the 80 associates that I work with who depend on me and then our customers in 21 countries around the world who depend on our services. Then comes my volunteer work with our Veterans and Animal Welfare. After all that comes the Packers, sports and other trivialities. So, while I am no fan of Capers I have my perspective on where the Packers fit in my life. Capers could sleep through the entire game if that enables the Packers to shut out the Vikings. He certainly hasn't helped by staying awake if I understand your posts about him.
Thanks, Since '61

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

October 13, 2017 at 11:04 am

JohnnyLogan, Where were you when I needed you?? By the way, my parents were Personal Friends with Johnny Logan.
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NitschkeFan's picture

October 13, 2017 at 11:04 am

Hard to disagree that the secondary will get gashed no matter who the opponents QB is. Rollins and Randell can make Elmer Fudd look like Jonny U.

A. Rodg will be running for his life on at least 10 - 12 plays again. But, with a little luck he will survive being the second most sacked QB in the NFL. And if he survives then I expect the Packers to win.

It is fortunate that the Vikes have more significant injuries than the Packers.

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:00 pm

Excellent post Johnny Logan. My sentiments exactly. I literally believe the University of Alabama could move the ball on this defense, and I'm not joking at all. Capers, Capers, Capers. I really don't believe this guy still has a job. Back in the day, for you youngsters out there, the Packers used to play a group of college All-stars for several years, as an exhibition game. It was really, really interesting. Packers would shut them down, but if GB showed any weakness and gave up scores and easy points, Lombardi would be "all over them" in practice next week. I shudder to think what would happen to this Packer team if they played Alabama with Lombardi as coach. I seriously think there would be embarrassment .

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:37 pm

Fin - I don't know if you remember, but Lombardi's Packers did lose to the College All-Stars in August of 1963. It was the first exhibition game of the season and the final score was All-Stars 20 - Packers 17. Many Packers starters did not play in the game but Lombardi was not happy with the Packers losing the game.

The Packers went on to an 11-2-1 record in the 1963 regular season but they did not qualify for the post - season because the Bears won the NFL Western Conference title with an 11-1-2 record. No wild card back then. Plus Paul Hornung was suspended for gambling for the entire 1963 season. Now of course we let players continue to play even after they beat their 4 year old children.

In any case the Packers never lost to the College All- Stars again. The game was canceled in 1976 when the league went from 6 to 4 preseason games. Thanks, Since '61

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 04:01 pm

Right - I actually thought they DID lose to the college all-stars, I just didn't want to say it if I wasn't sure. Too lazy to research and look it up.
1963 was about the beginning of my consciousness with the Packers, so those memories are foggy. I do remember Lombardi was really upset with his teams not performing well against the college teams. It's really interesting they allowed that type of thing to happen, imagine that today!
I would pay to see a game like that. I wonder why they quit doing that? Do you remember anything about it?
I didn't recall them playing the college teams as late as '76 - I thought it ended in the 60's.
I do remember Hornung being suspended for gambling because that was huge conversation in our family.
Wasn't it the year before that he had the 176 points? That was a huge loss for the team.

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 09:06 pm

Sorry Fin, Paul was suspended for the 1963 season. He achieved his record 176 points scoring record in 1960 during a 12 game season. His suspension was a huge loss for the 1963 Packers. Maybe they defeat the Bears and win the Western conference that year. In which case they would have played the NFL championship against the NY Giants for the 3rd year in a row and probably would have won their third straight NFL title in 61 - 63.
Then again which they did in 65 - 67. Amazing. Thanks, Since '61

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

October 13, 2017 at 04:56 pm

Since'61, I remember the game. Can't believe it was 63. I thought the game was later, & GB backed out of the game because of the loss. You have a Great Memory. I don't remember much about the game. I was 16. What I wouldn't give to go back there again. I had Classic Cars all my life. I had 3 1956 Chev Ragtops. That was my 1st car.The Plate on my last one was
STIL-16. You've brought Tears to my eyes.
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October 13, 2017 at 09:19 pm

LVT - we were lucky that we had the chance to see those great Packer teams and all of the great sports and games during the '60s. It was a bit of a Golden Age for sports. Thanks, Since '61

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:02 pm

Oh...and Hawk was a far better linebacker, than Capers is a defensive coordinator. Not even close. That's a total insult to AJ Hawk.! LOL

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:04 pm

Dup

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dschwalm's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:20 pm

Finally, a voice of both reason and reality

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flackcatcher's picture

October 13, 2017 at 02:21 pm

What! After all these years I've been fighting the wrong Great Satan....

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Johnblood27's picture

October 13, 2017 at 10:15 am

Capers = famine, death, anarchy

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

October 13, 2017 at 10:22 am

Bradford, I doubt will play at all based on what I saw last week. I watched the Minn - Chi game. Bradford is really hurt. If he plays at all, he could go out for the year. That's how Bad he is hurt. I almost feel sorry for the guy. He's a Good QB, who's been hurt his whole career. He's listed as probable, but unless they can shoot him up, I don't see him playing at all. Their back-up is pretty good. I don't see any Let Down at Minn, but after last week, GB has to be careful of one. GB should win, but they will have to come to play.
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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 11:54 am

I was surprised Bradford was out there last week. He literally fell down on one play when his linemen just backed into him and brushed him. I hope he plays, but I doubt he will. Packers will make Keenum look like an all-pro this Sunday, guaranteed. Vikings will think their QB problems are all solved and they have their future QB after Sunday.

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LAS VEGAS-TOM's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:18 pm

Finwiz, If GB makes Minn back-up QB look like an All Pro come Sunday, Capers & TT both ought to be looking for New Jobs come Monday.
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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 02:58 pm

We both know Capers won't be anywhere but back in the office on Monday morning either way. They are committed to him until he retires because, Dom Capers is "an outstanding football coach" - to quote our illustrious leader.

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:08 pm

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:21 pm

There is no "probable" injury designation anymore. He's listed as "DNP" (Did Not Participate) for W and Th, though, which makes him a long shot to play on Sunday. Same is true of Diggs, Sendejo, and Easton (starting G).

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 04:06 pm

I am really glad Diggs isn't playing, that's one guy we can't cover with ANYBODY on our team.
I don't see who they have as playmakers now. Thielen doesn't scare me, but he will be a nuisance.
I like our chances with all their guys out. Usually it's just us with all the injuries.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 04:15 pm

Thielen went off for ~200 yards in the game at Lambeau last season...with Bradford throwing to him.

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Finwiz's picture

October 13, 2017 at 04:21 pm

I know, which is why I said he would be a nuisance. Not likely to score from 70 yards out, but will wreak havoc with our very substandard, Capers zone defense. He will carve us up, and make a few 3rd down conversions, not allowing us to get off the field. It will be rocky, but we should win. Emphasis on should.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:01 pm

I felt bad for Bradford even after he came to Minn, but that was through no fault of his own. Sounds like he has a degenerative knee condition of some sort, now. He might be done.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:18 pm

I could not believe Zimmer played him last week. They had to know he could not set in the pocket. Unless that was the only way to prove it to Bradford. "Old school" what a load. God, what a price to pay.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:38 pm

If he was limited in practice, maybe they couldn't tell for sure.

In the end, the player has to tell you whether or not he feels he can be effective. I can't believe they were forcing him to be out there.

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flackcatcher's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:51 pm

Yes your right, it is a trust issue. But I have a tough time believing their team doctors did not warn Zimmer about Bradford's knee. Sometimes, you have to protect these players from themselves. It's stuff like this which separates the Packers from most of the other teams in the NFL.

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Since'61's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:41 pm

Bradford is seriously hurt. In addition to his knee problems he has a serious bone bruise on his heel. He basically cannot walk on his foot. I just heard this on the Mike Francesca show (WFAN in NY) as he was reviewing this week's major injuries in the NFL. Bradford will not be playing this week. Thanks, Since '61

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:46 pm

Maybe he's paying checks back to the Vikings...

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flackcatcher's picture

October 13, 2017 at 03:54 pm

HA. Well with the Vikings situation at QB, that I can believe.

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The TKstinator's picture

October 13, 2017 at 05:51 pm

Overpaid, coddled crybaby.

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dobber's picture

October 13, 2017 at 10:23 pm

My wife calls me that, too.

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TXCHEESE's picture

October 13, 2017 at 11:15 am

I think GB will be able to at least manage a functional rushing attack this game, which will take the pass rush down a notch. If they can accomplish that, I expect the offense to put up a good number, and I don't think the Vikings are going to do much offensively. As long as they stay away from the turnovers, I think the Packers win by multiple scores.

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Qoojo's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:01 pm

I expect a close game. Rodgers has trouble with the Zimmer defenses. Two good edge rushers, against a team with issues at OT all season. Could be an issue if MM doesn't account for it. I don't expect Jones to be near as good in this game. I expect under 4 yds/carry average.

Defense is a box of chocolates. Either the defense is good enough to stop a pedestrian offense, or they can't stop a thing. Either way, just fire Capers already. With the potential for missing two starting DBs, the defense might make yet another below average QB look like the GOAT.

If Rodgers gets protection, then Packers win.

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Lphill's picture

October 13, 2017 at 12:31 pm

the Vikings defense did not really look great against the Bears , if not for the 2 Turbisky turnovers the Bears win, I think Rodgers has good numbers against the Vikings I guess he knows them pretty well, I expect a win but by no more than one score.

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lou's picture

October 13, 2017 at 01:05 pm

I would like to see a solid win start to finish, those have been hard to come by in MN, just ask Holmgren, the T J Rubley and Terrell Buckley last minute losses and almost another when he had Billy Schroeder with both hands by the neck after a stupid special teams penalty. The Mn, Seattle, and SanFran defenses over Rodgers career have given him the most trouble consistently. Time for the "D" to step up early, that will make a big difference in the out come.

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October 13, 2017 at 01:06 pm

I hate the Vikes!

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October 13, 2017 at 01:05 pm

Theilin goes off, again vs GB. Rudolf goes off with no Burnett , Griffin and hunter wreak havoc with the crowd noise and makeshift oline amd vikes cover the 3.5 spread. Pack 20-vikes 17

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October 13, 2017 at 01:34 pm

Duke Divine, The game has gone down to GB-3. Wouldn't surprise me to see GB-2 1/2 by Sunday.
LVT

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October 13, 2017 at 02:49 pm

Some Capers hate. I believe he is a great coach for 5year vets of his system. On defense a player must read and react instantly on the field. If they have to think about their responsibility they will be to slow to the play. 1/2 second in time to think translates to over 3 yards in pursuit distance. since the 2011 labor agreement practice time has been diminished. Simplifying the defense would allow players in his system to react more rapidly and results would improve. This is not Capers. He wants to confuse teams with different looks and coverages. This generates mistakes on defense and slow pursuit to the ball under current collective bargaining agreement. It was time to get rid of Capers years ago he is a dinosaur now. He has not adapted to the new rules.
Green Bay is a draft and develop team, Capers system needs experienced vets in the system. One must change to be successful on the defensive side of the ball.

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October 13, 2017 at 06:36 pm

2020 - I'm not a big fan of Capers either. However to be fair the Packers defense has allowed 98 points over the first 5 games of this season. That is an average of 19.6 points per game. In this era of the NFL that is a good job by our defense. If the Packers continue to hold opponents to under 20 points per game we're going to win plenty of games with Aaron Rodgers as our QB.

I've also called for Capers to be gone in the past but he should not be blamed for players like Randall, Rollins, Gunther, AJ Hawk (at the end), and numerous others over the years who just could not play in the NFL. If we do that then we need to give him credit for Daniels, CM3, King, Jones, Dix, Burnett, Shields, Clark, etc. It's players not plays. Thanks, Since '61

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October 13, 2017 at 03:09 pm

C'mon folks, do you really believe that Capers is running concepts, plays and schemes that other teams aren't running? The Nitro isn't all that innovative. It's being run in part by several teams out there.

At some point its gotta come down to one (or more) of three things:
Game planning
In-game adjustments
Personnel

Which is it?

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October 13, 2017 at 03:12 pm

Final injury report, here:

http://www.packers.com/team/injury-report.html

No Burnett or Thomas.
King and Brooks are doubtful.
Bakhtiari, Bulaga, House and Monty are questionable.

Minny will be missing Diggs, Bradford and Easton. Sendejo is questionable.

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October 13, 2017 at 03:36 pm

Not good, key personal for both the big okie and nitro are down. Believe this is a choice by MM to get an extra week of rest in response to a weak and disjointed Vikings offense. Look for more Claymaker in the middle taking on both Thomas and Burnett's role. Maybe this is the week Williams settles down and begins to see his blocks, in any case Jones is the starter and Taylor is the LT. (At this rate, the man deserves a pay raise. Not what he signed up for :)

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October 13, 2017 at 03:45 pm

Gotta think that if Brooks is down that CMIII's going to be playing a lot on the edge, given Fackrell's been doing his best Datone impression. Maybe Chris Odom gets some real snaps this week and allows them to move CMIII around.

On the plus side, it looks like Nelson's OK to go. Hopefully they play it smart and move the pocket around, do some designed rollouts, maybe run a few screens to keep #12 upright. I think the Vikes tee off on Taylor if he's at LT. It's a bad matchup for the Packers.

I expect Thielen to go off on Sunday, but as long as it's just him, they should be good.

Sendejo is the Chancellor to Harrison Smith's Thomas. If Sendejo doesn't play, they don't miss him all that much.

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October 13, 2017 at 04:19 pm

Dix is making the defensive calls, but CMIII did it in the past couple of years. I expect he have to drop into coverage more. It either him or Ryan, but the Vikings have so many injuries at skill positions the Packers might be able to gamble more on their defensive personal. For once, if the Packers offensive scores early, the Viking will be at a significant disadvantage. This may one of the few times when MM commits to the run game to keep that pass rush off Rodgers. It would be nice to see the Packers eat up clock, and win going away.

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October 13, 2017 at 03:46 pm

Thanks for the update Dobber. Diggs out is good news for an undermanned Packer secondary. Losing Burnett hurts but now the Vikings only weapon is their TE.
Maybe Bak returns which would be a big lift for the Pack's OL. If the Packers can slow down the Viking edge rushers Rodgers will pick them apart. They should run Jones right at the Vikings edge rushers.
Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

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October 13, 2017 at 04:56 pm

I expect same old stories here after the game, no matter Packers win or lose. 70% of fans here knows that this is another season of "wasting Aarons best years" and 30% of us just enjoy the season and believe everything is possible (well, it is possible, wtf Bears and Jags win over Steelers!)...

So, my expectations are to see nothing new...

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October 13, 2017 at 06:38 pm

49ers released Bowman today. Not a bad idea to pick him up for more depth at linebacker. Make the move TT. Thanks, Since '61

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October 13, 2017 at 10:31 pm

"An offensive coach who faced Bowman earlier this year tells Albert Breer of TheMMQB.com (Twitter link) that while Bowman can no longer run like he used to, he’s still a solid tackler. Although Bowman remains a capable run defender, he’s a liability in the passing game. Hypothetically, that could be a problem for Bowman in a league where defenses play nickel on two-thirds of snaps."

profootballrumors.com/2017/10/reaction-to-49ers-release-of-lb-navorro-bowman

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October 14, 2017 at 07:46 am

Almost every post is about the defense. The elephant in the room that holds this team back once again. AR will have to get paid and extended leaving less money to shore up a defense already full of holes. We could be 7-1 at the break unless Drew Brees throws for 500 yards and 6 td's next week.

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