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Packers Question of the Day: Expectations for Sunday

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Packers Question of the Day: Expectations for Sunday

The Green Bay Packers will travel to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers for just the second time since 2009 -- this time, on Sunday Night Football.

The group is led by quarterback Brett Hundley, who also looks to get back into the same groove he left Chicago with two weeks ago. The defense, meanwhile, faces their toughest test of the season against running back Le'Veon Bell and receiver Antonio Brown -- both of which who are arguably the best at their respective positions.

What are your expectations for Sunday?

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Bearmeat's picture

I expect them to lose and lose big. I expect to see wide open receivers running through our secondary. I expect to see Jamaal Williams running for 3 yards and a cloud of dust. I expect Hundley to sack himself at least 5 times, and to throw at least 3 picks.

I expect to be rolling my eyes at the TV by 7:30 left in the 1st quarter. And I expect to see TT/MM/DC gone on 1/2/18.

We good? Ok. See you all Sunday.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

"And I expect to see TT/MM/DC gone on 1/2/18."

Do you really expect it? I don't mean hope or expect the undeniable circumstances to exist. I mean actually expect someone at 1265 to be accountable?

Bearmeat's picture

No. But the title of the post was "Expectations," so I stuck with the vibe. lol.

Frankly, I don't expect to see any change. And that ticks me off.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Sadly I expect the same. The Packers are a Real Estate company now, football is just the advertising.

4zone's picture

Sadly, probably accurate on every point except the MM,TT,DC gone in 2018.

nigrivasilayesrej's picture

You said it perfectly. Except for the TT/MM/DC part; the Packers have lacked the appropriate accountability for years, & unless people stop going to games/watching, nothing will change. DC should have been gone 5 years ago...

4zone's picture

It goes with not having an owner who can get fed up. We have a board and President who's top purpose is revenue.

4zone's picture

It goes with not having an owner who can get fed up. We have a board and President who's top purpose is revenue.

Point Packer's picture

Any one see what Keenum did yesterday? Amazing what happens when you have a legitimate back-up plan. Ted Thompson and Mashed Potato Mike? "I've invested three years in Brett Hundley".......so, therefore I know he's a borderline arena league QB?

Just awful player management and coaching.

Tincada's picture

"And I expect to see TT/MM/DC gone on 1/2/18." We can only hope. Especially Terrible TED, the cheapskate bottom feeding undrafted rookie king of the NFL.

OrganLeroy's picture

I expect that your 1st paragragh and 2nd to last sentence will all be true, but your last sentence will not come true!

4thand1's picture

The team is owned by the city of GB and the fans, right? The next home game will be sold out and shit will continue to roll downhill. If the fan base stayed away in droves, it would send a message. My expectation is another embarrassment.

Donster's picture

"And I expect to see TT/MM/DC gone on 1/2/18."

It's the first thing I have wanted for Christmas since I was just a kid, some 50+ years ago.

As for Sunday Night, am hoping the Squeelers are overlooking the Pack and thinking about the Bungholes the following week. Not going to happen. Squeelers by 20. The big question is: Will the Packer's offense score?

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Where is Clubber Lang when you need him?

NMPF's picture

Quote A Few Good Men " We're going to lose and we're going to lose huge"

egbertsouse's picture

Steelers 35, Pack 10. At post game presser MM talks about pad level and how they have to clean up a few things.

TommyG's picture

“Need to watch the film” because apparently he didn’t watch the game from the sideline.

Qoojo's picture

MM says, "That wasn't packers football. Packers football is when #12 is out there to hide the fact that we are the Browns with less defense."

Tarynfor12's picture

To quote Dalton from Roadhouse..." Expect the unexpected "......however, there is nothing the Packers can bring to this game that would be unexpected. I'm therefore totally expecting nothing expectation wise.

The TKstinator's picture

To quote Geddy Lee: “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”
If you expect nothing, you still have an expectation, because nothing is something. Or is it? When I look into the abyss, does the abyss look back at me?
Now my head hurts.

Tarynfor12's picture

" When I look into the abyss, does the abyss look back at me?"

Yes it does via the TV set when the Packers are on Sunday night.

The TKstinator's picture

LOL

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Haha!

mrtundra's picture

If Hundley is having a rough day, I see MM putting Dirty Harry in at QB before things get out of hand. Dirty Harry moves the chains making everyone wonder why he wasn't our QB choice over Hundley before this. MM still believes in Hundley, but....

Since '61's picture

I haven't felt so hopeless before a Packers game since the Lynn Dickey era in Green Bay. It's distressing how quickly we have returned to the early/mid-70s.

With Dickey, Majik Man, and obviously Favre and Rodgers we have had a chance in nearly every game since 1976 when Lynn Dickey came to Green Bay.

Even with a healthy Rodgers this would be a difficult challenge. I don't see how our defense will hold the Steelers to under 30 points and there is no way that I see the Packers scoring more than 14 - 17 points if even that with the Hundley led offense.

I will watch and cheer for the Packers but I don't see a way to victory. I detest feeling like a game is lost before it is even played.

Thanks TT for returning us to a feeling of hopelessness.
Thanks, Since '61

pacman's picture

A few of us old timers here to agree.

Can anyone recall any GB qb looking this bad and the head coach staying with him? There have been bad loses and bad years. But this is the sadest looking team I can recall.

Somedumbname's picture

Randy Wright was hard to watch.

Tundraboy's picture

The worst I think!.

The TKstinator's picture

“Sadest” or “Sadist”?

Somedumbname's picture

I must be a masochist for watching them :)

lou's picture

The worst stretch was Hadl & Del Gazo, Hadl was damaged goods, his arm was badly injured, that is why the Ram's traded him after he was the league MVP the year before and of course could not turn down the "Lawrence Welk Deal", A 1 and a 2 and a 2 and a 3 so they had to play him injured. Devine traded him without approval from the 7 man exec committee which was in his contract and did it with no consultation. If the 7 man exec committee would have been brighter they could have had Dr. Nellen fail him on his physical and send him back to Hollywood. Same with Del Gazo in reference that he had to play because of the 2 number 2's he cost the idiots. And now people think trading a 2nd (moving up), 4th, and 7th for Sprigg's was insane, imagine the talent they could have had without the Hadl & Del Gazo deals, maybe even Scooter McClean could have been 500 with that talent.

Nick Perry's picture

OMG....Hadl was awful and we gave up the rest of the 70's for him. People talk about the Hershel Walker trade being the worst trade in NFL history, well that Hadl trade is 1B if the Walker trade is 1A. UGH!!

Since '61's picture

Big mistake was hiring Dan Devine as head coach in the first place. Devine didn't know the professional game and I don't think he ever really cared about the Packers because he knew he could get back to the college game.

Then he created a nightmare with the Hadl trade which the Packers never recovered from until the late '80s with the Majik Man followed in '92 by the arrivals of Wolf, Holmgren, and Favre. Thankfully Devine left when he did or who knows he might have completely destroyed the franchise in Green Bay.

Thanks, Since '61

Free agent's picture

I enjoyed watching Dickey play, he couldn’t move well or avoid the rush but he should could sure throw the ball. Their record wasn’t great during that era, mostly around .500. But they fun to watch with Lofton and Jefferson putting on a show. This current team is as exciting as watching the microwave rotate around & around for 3 hours

Donster's picture

I agree with you 100% Since '61, having been a Packer fan since '63 or so.

fthisJack's picture

yup, Dickey is still one of my fav QB of all time. too bad he had 2 bum knees. they used to signal in the plays from the sideline. remember what unzipping your zipper meant? lol.

cheesehead1's picture

No big expectations here. Hope we don’t see WR’s running wide open for PIT and that this D can step up, but just can’t see it. The D has been a big disappointment IMO. Thought Casey Hayward had a nice game yesterday for the Chargers. You saw tight coverage from their DB’S, something we haven’t seen with GB. Regardless, will still cheer for the Pack, win or lose.

Boulderbrewer's picture

I see vast patches of sod between our linebackers and safeties, with Steelers making easy uncontested catches. No Pressure on their QB. On offense we will continue to see the second coming of Rich Campbell at QB. The game will be out of reach by halftime.

Archie's picture

Yeah, despite the 14 point spread, I'll be placing me sheckles on the Steelers. Can't see it any closer than 31-14 and I can see it a lot wider than that. Leveon Bell may not even play in the 2nd half.

As to accountability and Mr. Real Estate Developer Packers President, Mark Murphy - it all lands on him at this point. he has said things in the recent past to make you think he would reveres TT?MM so much he would never dram of upsetting the applecart and not inviting them to continue on forever but another side of me suspects even he gets it now. Maybe he will finally do what is needed and what he was primarily hired for, make sure we have a good GM in place and let that GM pick his HC. This must be TT's last draft in GB. No other team would hire this guy in a million years. Hiring MM over Sean Payton was idiotic. Trying as hard as he could to trade the AR pick once he knew he was "stuck" with AR, was just as idiotic as MM passing on hoim at #1 and taking Alex Smith instead. From there it has been all downhill. The fact AR has led GB to many victories and a SB title is a miracle itself given TT/MM. People loved the draft & develop mantra but TTcouldn't draft and MM couldn't develop. I really look forward to the broom on 1/2/18 sweeping the house clean.

rdent's picture

I always believed Sean Payton would have been a better hire than Mike McCarthy.

lou's picture

Payton believe the same thing, he said he was in tears when he did not get the Packers job. I would have preferred Marty Schottenheimer, he went 14-2 with San Diego and was canned because of a power struggle with the GM who was fired 2 years later.

OrganLeroy's picture

Get your facts straight, people shouldn't comment without facts, not alternative facts. MM didn't draft Alex Smith, the 49er's drafted him, the GM's decision. Every team in the league had Smith #1 overall, his college numbers, his athleticism all made him an easiers choice over an arrogant QB with a flawed throwing motion, average #'s in college, and playing for a head coach, Jeff Tedford who sent 3 or 4 QB's to the NFL that FAILED MISERABLY. This hindsight talent evaluation is Bull sh*t!

TXCHEESE's picture

Too bad this is a prime time game. Seems like the Steelers play down to the level of their competition when they're out of the spot light. I expect they will be up for this game, and will put a whipping on the Packers. Hope I'm wrong, but I fully expect that I will be heading to bed at halftime assured of the end result. I too hope that TT goes away at the end of this season, and the new GM forces MM to make a change at DC. Sean Payton has had his problems in NO. I read earlier that Brees has only missed two games in the last 10 years, yet NO has had 3 straight 7-9 seasons prior to this year, and some really, really crappy defenses in years past. While the grass seems greener, it is not always so. If the Packers can field a reliable defense, they will still be a very formidable opponent once QB1 is back.

Razer's picture

I have never quite understood the slam against the Packers being a "real estate company" or "as long as they are making money" or "satisfied with a full stadium". I want my Packers successful and the money's well managed. They are making very good business decisions. Bravo.

Ted Thompson and Mike Murphy played the pro game and are players as much as they are executives. I doubt that either of them want to field or witness a poor team. I doubt that either of them are making choices for profit at the expense of fielding their best team. To claim the profit choice motivation is unfair and wrong.

To question TT on the FA and drafts is fair. Is he doing a good job? Maybe average or slightly above considering that we are not a cash-strapped, old and talentless mess. So if you want to complain, cite the failures or weaknesses but stop confusing good business decisions with people not caring.

J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

Mark Murphy, Mark Murphy

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

The best comment in the thread gets 8 dislikes. Interesting comment section here at Cheesehead.

Turophile's picture

When the fans are angry they want criticism and venting. Razer makes an accurate, to-the-point argument. You and Reynoldo, have a like on me !

Since '61's picture

Reynoldo - Razer does make good points. The frustration for the fans is not about the business decisions it is about the lack of accountability for the on field results. Why is Capers still the DC for example? When will TT be made accountable for fielding a team that can't even play offense or defense when they lose the starting QB?

The team is financially sound and that is a good thing but the team also has a sold out stadium for 25+ years and the NFL TV revenue and other revenue streams before they even started building "Packersville" or whatever it's called. Meanwhile the on field product is declining.

So the question from the fans is where is the focus on the team or on the money? Maybe everyone keeps their jobs because the on field results don't matter anymore given all the "other" revenue streams.

This will only get worse during the upcoming off season if the management and coaching staffs remain intact. Especially if Capers is retained as DC.

As fans we want the team to win and win NOW. Murphy needs to keep the big picture in mind that's true but not at the apparent expense of the team's results.
Remember winning solves everything for all parties. Thanks, Since '61

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Murphy and the BOD are running a business that more or less can't lose money. So, accountability for the quality of the on-field product is largely divorced from financial viability. Sound point.

Harlan gave us the template: no more good ole boys running the football operations. Put in a sound football person as GM and leave it the hell alone, resisting temptation to meddle "unduly." Wolf and TT qualified for a long time as sound football guys.

These two paragraphs are in opposition to one another. Unduly is the key word.

It is up to Murphy and the BOD to decide if TT still qualifies as a sound football executive. I am on board with firing TT, and letting the new GM decide on the HC and staff (which usually means firing the HC and most of the staff). I suspect that Murphy, as a former player, wants more than winning seasons, and will do the right thing.

We are just putting the definition of 'unduly' in different places. Zook never should have been hired, and should have been fired almost immediately. My opinion or DC is higher than my opinion of MM, but both should go. When MM hired and worse, didn't fire, Zook, TT should have been concerned. When MM didn't fire DC, that should have been it. TT's drafts have been middlin' to poor for several seasons.

I think we can do better than TT/MM/DC/Zook.

4zone's picture

This one is tough to come up with anything positive to predict. Maybe Fackrell or VB supplants CM3 with an outstanding game or something bizzar like that.

Jamie Freier's picture

Key, unfortunate and inexplicable injuries, several. Oh and turnovers, lots and lots, that will be the only thing keeping Vogel’s leg from flying off at the hip from overuse. Steelers 56 Pack 0.

cheesehead1's picture

Really surprised this game wasn’t flexed out of this time slot. You’d think [email protected] would have been a much better matchup.

Tincada's picture

Might be yet if the line goes to Pitt +21 which it should.

4thand1's picture

I don't think they can flex a prime time slated game.

Since '61's picture

They can flex a prime time after week 10, which this is, but they need to make the decision 2 weeks prior to the game due to logistics required to prepare the stadium that has become the new prime time location. Thanks, Since '61

HalbDeutsch's picture

Watching the Packers is like watching the Illini try to play football--pretty pathetic. All Packers fans need to band together and stop going to games, buying merch, visiting attractions, etc. Hitting the team in the wallet is the only way to affect change. Otherwise expect a few more years of bad drafts and bad coaching.

nigrivasilayesrej's picture

My expectation is that Ben, Bell, AB, & the Steelers DEF all contribute greatly to fantasy lineups this weekend.

Point Packer's picture

The only redeeming element of this whole disaster is that Mike McCarthy has finally been exposed as the fraud that he is. Mike McCarthy is not a good coach and the zombie like defense if him over the years from the sports media has been absolutely ridiculous.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

45_10 packers get blown out of the park! !!

Pack12's picture

For the first time in my life I have bet against the Packers. I'm giving 14 points to the Packers. I do not see GB being able to score more than 10 points in this game and the Steelers should easily score more than 24 points. It hurts for me to do it but I have to call it the way I see it. Packers have been playing prevent offense with Hundley and I do not see it getting any better.

4zone's picture

Lack of offense will wear down the defense. Pitt will score at least 24 by half and probably over 40 before it's over. I think we score 17, but most during garbage time.

OrganLeroy's picture

T.J. Watt will sack Hundley 15 times!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Oh. That would be funny

Ustabeayooper's picture

I only expect the packers to be competitive in this game. As far as the criticism of the management of the draft is concerned, realize that the packers have drafted in the 20 to 30 range almost every year of TT/MM tenure. The draft is designed this way to keep competitive balance. Every NFC division leader currently, didn't even make the playoffs last year. Anyone want to bet on who wins the divisions next year? I give NE credit for being consistently good but everyone must realize that they get 6 wins almost every year because of the crappy division they are in. By the way,the last time we drafted in the top 10 we got BJ Raji and Clay Mathews in the 1st round. With 4 extra picks in this draft,the packers have plenty of options this year.

fthisJack's picture

4 more opportunities for bad draft picks.

Lphill's picture

Back to back shut outs should put an end to Hundley . Let's hope

Donster's picture

Should, but I highly doubt it. Hundley is MM's boy. He has trained him personally into a well oiled, play making machine. The only way Callahan gets to play will be because of Hundley getting injured just enough so he has to come off the field for a play. MM is a great coach and he knows QB talent. Would MM lie?

freddisch's picture

MM " I am a successful NFL coach ", no you are a lucky NFL coach(Favre & Rogers). Steelers 38- Packers 9

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Omg. . They are trying to make it sound like there is going to be a grudge match...just for rating ls. 45_10 Steelers win . Easily

Doug Niemczynski's picture

Do the packers actually have to come to the game...i mean play All the 2nd and 3rd stringers si we can maybe use that as an excuse for getting a can of whoop A from the steelers

Portland Mark's picture

It seems the Hundley has the tools but is making bad decisions, as opposed to Flynn who didn't have great tools but made better decisions. If Hundley runs on third and short, steps up in the pocket and doesn't hold the ball for 4 seconds we may be pleasantly surprised. That's what I'm hoping for. In any event, I thought they were done at 4-6 last year so I'll never count this team out until mathematically eliminated. Also, it could be worse. Dak Prescott has looked terrible, Eli Manning is imploding, etc so it's not like the Packers are alone in this type of mess.

4thand1's picture

How the hell did we beat the Bears? We may get surprised Sunday night, but most likely not. Would be nice to see a competitive game.

Tundraboy's picture

Who the hell knows what to expect. But if pressed I expect the team will play their hearts out, If not I'll be watching Shameless instead.

Nick Perry's picture

Shameless...Now THAT'S an awesome show. I'm recording the Packers AND Shameless on Sunday. I haven't missed an episode of Shameless yet nor have I missed a Packers game since I've been a Direct TV customer since about 1998 I believe.

The thing that pisses me off is I'm actually paying to watch the Packers play the most uninspired football I've seen them play in 25 years.

Nobody has said it so I'm going to... Is anyone else worried the Packers will be the lone Browns victory this season??

Tundraboy's picture

NP. Highly recommend the UK version. Even funnier if you can believe it. Takes a few episodes to get the slang but well worth it. As for our beloved Pack, I can see losing to the Browns and maybe beating the Vikings. Best decision I made was holding off on the NFL package this year. Most were on network or free on my Verizon mobile.

Jonathan Spader's picture

I expect the Packers to get blown out by the Steelers and Packer fans to continue to compare the Steelers 3-4 defense to the Packers defense. TJ Watt to King and Biegel. Lots of tears during the game and for the next few days afterwards. For 2018 I expect Aaron Rodgers back covering up the season that was 2017 with no changes to management. Maybe he wouldn't have broken both collarbones if he wasn't carrying the team on his shoulders.

Samson's picture

The Pack may be competitive for a half or so but then the more talented, better coached team will dominate and win going away.

Only way GB stays in this game is turnovers by Pittsburgh. --- Even a +2 or +3 in TO's by GB (sadly) won't be enough. --- Plan on a 2nd 6-pack for this game.

Tundraboy's picture

Tomlin won't pour it on, but the players still may.

Free agent's picture

I expect them to get their asses kick in. A couple of more players to get injured, many passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage, 3 or 4 turnovers, and a boring presser from MM to follow. Al Michaels and Collinsworth will be promoting the next Sunday night game the entire 2nd half.

TommyG's picture

Running game is gone, passing attack is gone, the OL is decimated. I think our packers will have 10 points at the end of the game with 7 of those coming during garbage time. I expect the Steelers d to put on an absolute clinic of what the 3-4 is supposed to look like. I expect Hundley to throw multiple interceptions. Our defense will be gassed at halftime from chasing Steelers wideouts all over the place. I expect this game to get ugly and to do so rather quickly.

Malland56's picture

The Packers will get massacred

DD's picture

Most all the comments are very accurate. The Pack stands NO chance to win this one. Hell, look at the games lost already at home and you'd expect them to win at steelers? No way,, no form, no how. Tomlin will have them ready! It's pathetic to even watch them now, but I'll gut the whole game out because, like all of you, we care and love our Packers as loyal fans. We're just speaking our truths via our eyes. TT, MM, DC, and all scouting team must be fired after season. Pipe dteam??? Probably. Come on Pack.

croatpackfan's picture

After I read comments here, only I can say many of you do not deserve to call yourself Packers fans...

When things went wrong on many fields, you just start to spit on "beloved" team. Shame on most of you!

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I care more about the franchise than individual coaches or players. I no longer believe in TT and MM. I will root for them and the players while advocating that most of the coaches, GM, and a handful of players be let go.

cheesycowboy's picture

Give me the Packers and the points. How's that for optimism?

balding_pastor's picture

If we cant beat an offensively challenged team at home...Hard to believe they'd look worse than last week, but this could get truly ugly.

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