Packers Linebacker Barrington Reportedly Out For The Season

September 15, 2015 at 10:38 pm

Let's hope Jake Ryan plugs that hole quick and with power !!

Idiot Fan

September 15, 2015 at 03:44 pm

He's not necessarily a powerhouse talent that we're losing, but depth is certainly a concern.

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September 15, 2015 at 10:40 pm

Yes he was ok at stopping the run but coverage he sucked i think Jake Ryan will be better after he get's his feet wet just hope it in this next game not 2 or 3 games down the road .

Bearmeat

September 15, 2015 at 03:45 pm

Bohj

September 15, 2015 at 03:52 pm

Before everyone freaks out about the situation this puts us in please remember:

1. We will be no worse off than last year with BradHawkJolina.
2. This year's draft had zero inside linebackers where we were drafting in the first round, and I think we got one of the better ones in Jake Ryan. I'm a Mich fan, and this guy was always around the ball.
3. There are no free agents that were available that we could have had over the offseason. And if you think there were, then name them and then tell us what signing them would have done to our cap.
4. Palmer will be serviceable. Especially once he has another hand.
5. Mathews playing inside for most of the year is okay with me. Why restrict that dude to one side of the field.
6. More jumbo packages?
7. Hope this Barrington thing is absolutely a rumor.

Idiot Fan

September 15, 2015 at 03:59 pm

Yep. I'm generally a stick-with-our-guys kind of person, but the one rumor that was out there that intrigued me was that Mychal Kendricks was available for a second-round pick. If that was true, I would have been up for that.

Green Machine

September 15, 2015 at 05:10 pm

"2. This year's draft had zero inside linebackers where we were drafting in the first round"

Stephone.
Anthony.

A cb in the first 2 rounds was sensible.
2 cb's in the first 2 rounds was overkill.

Anthony/Rollins would have been just fine.

Drafting Randall was a mistake.

Flow49

September 15, 2015 at 06:47 pm

I wouldn't have minded a flyer on Bruce Carter for the right price. Emphasis on right price, not sure what he signed for though.

September 15, 2015 at 10:45 pm

Yes Jake seems to be around the ball and i hope he explodes at ILB i think they don't no how good this kid is but we will find out sunday night bet .

September 16, 2015 at 12:58 am

Dawson was available in the 3rd, fwiw. I might guess that TT didn't like something about Dawson (character or field, whatever); perhaps he felt he had enough in Barrington and Palmer, + Ryan, and hoped Bradford, etc. would show something, and that Montgomery was too intriguing to pass on. If TT passed on Dawson due to character, I have to support that decision since I am not there to interview/investigate Dawson.

September 16, 2015 at 11:04 am

Just what we need - another "serviceable linebacker" trying to stop the run or cover. Does Hawk still want to return to GB?

September 15, 2015 at 03:56 pm

Fawk!

Y'all think the middle was soft...I think it's going to get worse.

UNLESS the D-Line gets better and better. It's not impossible, but man, that might be asking for too much with this group. We shall see.

I know 1 thing, the 2-4-5 (mostly for passing) HAS to get more out of the 2 DL whoever is playing.

Raji + Daniels
Raji + Pennel
Daniels + Boyd
Daniels + Pennel
(just thinking about this is nerveracking)

September 16, 2015 at 01:01 am

Raji should not play in the nickel. I'd suggest Daniels and Datone/Peppers, maybe Pennel or Gaston at this point. The 2 DLs in nickel need to have non-stop motors as well.

September 16, 2015 at 11:06 am

(and extremely discouraging)

marpag1

September 15, 2015 at 03:57 pm

Barrington, Schmarrington. It's a cold thing to say, but he's not much of a loss... ordinary against the run and a disaster in coverage. There are plenty of Barringtons out there looking for a job.

It's time to see what Jake Ryan can do.

HankScorpio

September 15, 2015 at 04:34 pm

Alex Marvez tweeted that the Barrington news was a "big blow". Uh yeah, not so much.

Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer to have the guy the Packers thought was their best ILB outside Matthews. But I just can't say anything but "Next man up" over this news. Maybe throw in some well wishes for Barrington on the road to recovery.

September 16, 2015 at 11:09 am

Based on his pre-season work and his practices, I am not looking forward to Jake Ryan inside. At lease Hawk had the smarts. Ryan is too green and unproven to put him in the line of fire in the next two weeks. He would be cannon fodder

Uthy

September 15, 2015 at 07:25 pm

Mason Foster where you at?

701Packer

September 15, 2015 at 04:11 pm

IR for Barrington to make room for datone for now. Cut whoever was scheduled to be cut for datone, and bring in Bradford or Vaughters from PS for depth. Also, Mason Foster is out there and wouldnt cost much more than vet minimum if at all more. Gotta have more than Ryan, Palmer, and Matthews at ILB, right?

AZPack

September 15, 2015 at 05:43 pm

When would Foster be able to help. Sign him now and maybe 8 wks from now w/ a crash course. No thanks. I'll take my chances w Palmer! Have to ask if foster is so good why the H isn't he on a team NOW?!

Green Machine

September 15, 2015 at 06:24 pm

They don't need a good player.
They just need a player who's better than Palmer.

Oppy

September 15, 2015 at 06:44 pm

Palmer has played exactly one game as a ILB. Just how good IS Nate Palmer, Green Machine?

I seem to remember an awful lot of people were sure the Packers were going down the shitter when Brett Favre's train left the station, because the only guy we had to play QB was the inexperienced Aaron Rodgers.

Let's see what we've got in Palmer. He was turning heads in training camp before fracturing his hand. You never know, he just might be pretty good.

September 16, 2015 at 12:21 pm

.....and those fall off the NFL trees. What a shame. TT may be respected because of his D&D philosophy but I don't know any GM who sticks to that philosophy religiously like TT. Now, I may be dumping on the wrong guy. Maybe McFatty and his hand picked coaches have told TT what we have at ILB in house will be enough to stop the bleeding.
Look at what Denver has on defence in spite of their explosive offence, Defence won the game for them when Peyton had a bad day last Sunday..

701Packer

September 15, 2015 at 07:38 pm

Not asking Foster to be Ray Lewis. Neither would Bradford, Vaughters, or even D Bishop. Its called DEPTH. GB is one more ILB injury from having a real big problem.

September 16, 2015 at 01:07 am

The depth (Vaughters and Bradford) can stay on the PS for now. If someone tries to sign either off the PS, I'd guess they'd let TT know and he can then decide whether to promote them.

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September 15, 2015 at 07:12 pm

No one knows what TT will do, but at this point Palmer hasn't yet proven he can be an effective run-stopping ILB and it's too early to push Ryan on to the front line. The only option I see is to sign Mason Foster and coach-up Ryan.

Mason Foster has the physicalness and versatility we need. He can be a run-stopper and play in coverage. Right now the only LB we have that can do both is Matthews.

HankScorpio

September 15, 2015 at 05:13 pm

Packers just announced they activated Datone Jones and put Barrington on IR. So if they want another ILB, they'll have to make a cut now.

Their in-house PS call up option is Carl Bradford, so I'm hoping they take a good look at who is on the street, if they decide to go that route.

AZPack

September 15, 2015 at 05:48 pm

If Foster is soo good wht the H isn't he on someone's, anyone's roster?! Usually means he's Not very good.

Let's see what Palmer can do w this opportunity!

September 15, 2015 at 06:02 pm

Let's see... James Jones was cut by both the Raiders and Giants before the Packers signed him. How is that working out?

For those who have an open mind, here is an article by Fox Sports on Mason Foster and his stats: http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tampa-bay-buccaneers-free-agency-maso...

September 15, 2015 at 07:34 pm

Before I start, let me say that I don't know ANYTHING about this Foster guy.

I agree with both sides here.

Read this one though:
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6601/mason-foster

To be clear, the agree part is the side of me not wanting to see any of our LBs on the practice team play any Regular Season snaps. Maybe we do need to look outside for ILB help.Maybe we don't. But I do know the help isn't on the Practice Squad.

September 15, 2015 at 07:57 pm

It's always good to have more information. But in this Rotoworld article they say Foster is "...a two-down banger..." Yet is 2013 he had 3 interceptions and 7 passes defensed. Those are great coverage stats for a LB and I would be thrilled if we could get a similar production out of any one of our LBs.

September 15, 2015 at 08:06 pm

I'd like to see some film on him. It's hard to judge a guy off stats when you've (I'm not talking about you) never watched him play.

I'm sure TT will do whatever he feels helps the team this year though. Whatever that might be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJRosROAfJ8

September 15, 2015 at 08:14 pm

:35

1:57

2:39

His 3 INTs

I can't front. He looks nice. I know all "highlight reels" are supposed to, but he's showing he can move and big play ability.

This one is older - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrco1GG1Chk

What did he do last season???

September 15, 2015 at 08:33 pm

Thanks for posting those videos. You're right, highlight videos are hard to judge by but three things do jump out:
1) The dude has ball skills.
2) He has some speed.
3) He has some pop.

Other than Clay Matthews, show me another ILB on the Packers who has an NFL highlight video as good as Foster. He's only 26 and should be in his prime now.

And you're right about another thing. TT and his staff will do their due diligence. If they don't sign Foster, I'm sure they will have a good reason.

AZPack

September 15, 2015 at 11:11 pm

Difference is Jones KNOWS the Packers offense and can step in immediately and contribute. Was Foster in anyone's training camp? Pre season? That story was dated in march. By the time he learns enough to contribute it'll be wk 8 or so. Its not like he can step in and play immediately.

From the article Dra linked "struggled mightily for the Bucs last season. He's a two-down banger, and not a particularly good one."

Doesn't sound like he's worth it to me. A 2 down ILB and not a particularly good one? I'll pass thanks!

September 16, 2015 at 01:21 am

Rotoworld suggested that James Jones was washed up. I don't know enough about Mason Foster to have an opinion.

September 16, 2015 at 12:24 pm

TT will never admit that he has to go to the street to secure help. He is an excellent Drafter~~~

September 15, 2015 at 11:27 pm

Can he cover a player like sproles in space no from what i hurd so give Jake Ryan a shot first see what we have .

September 15, 2015 at 05:10 pm

Wow. Oh well, we did OK second half of last year. Just another year with ILB issues so what's new? Sure is a struggle all the time somewhere.

FITZCORE1252

September 15, 2015 at 05:23 pm

Possible blessing in disguise, Sam was JAG, and an absolute liability in space. Throw Ryan In there, get him some OTJ training.

EdsLaces

September 15, 2015 at 05:55 pm

I am with ya ...pretty decent speed kinda physical...smart. Could be a little soon,but screw it what else we got to lose?

Amanofthenorth

September 15, 2015 at 05:30 pm

This is more a DL challenge thing. If they don't eat OL's not even Butkus himself will help

Amanofthenorth

September 16, 2015 at 04:56 am

This

Amanofthenorth

September 15, 2015 at 05:31 pm

This is more a DL challenge thing. If they don't eat OL's not even Butkus himself will help

EdsLaces

September 15, 2015 at 05:35 pm

Clay has such a hybrid role hard to call him a "mlb". So palmer and Jake the snake are what's left. Not to say they both can't end up being good,but it's sooooo risky. That's 2 players that = 2 question marks....

MarkinMadison

September 15, 2015 at 06:55 pm

First off, the article about Foster is worth a read and definitely complimentary towards Foster. I don't care if he is not all that, the Packers need to take a hard look at the guy and give him a "prove it" contract if he looks better than any of the ILBs currently on the roster.

Why not next man up? Because that only works so much. Any philosophy taken to its extreme becomes crazy, and right now, the ILB position is thin, thin, thin. Isn't the whole point of the 3-4 to set your LBs up to make the plays? Well what do you do with a 3-4 D that has not much at the LB position? And we all know that this team is THAT close to winning a Super Bowl, and this team was in the top 3 for cap space available last I heard.

Is losing Barrington the end of the world? No. Is he JAG? Probably. Problem is, the Packers are running out of JAGs and digging into developmental players. Maybe one of them will be ready for prime time, but with one more injury even that slim hope could be snuffed out. Time to make a move if a move is available.

Green Machine

September 15, 2015 at 07:22 pm

"Time to make a move if a move is available."
They won't.

September 16, 2015 at 12:34 pm

I second that because TT will not admit that he left the team vulnerable because of his D&D philosophy.

September 15, 2015 at 08:16 pm

Going to get very interesting. Thin is being kind.

Uthy

September 15, 2015 at 07:31 pm

One thing with Barrington that will be missed is the piss and vinegar running through his veins. Beside Daniels, he was really becoming a vocal leader on this D. Much better than ' Ah heck' Nick Perry and 'Aw Schucks' Datone Jones. We need the tude dude.

MITM

September 15, 2015 at 07:35 pm

Brandon. Spikes. I dont care how many times hes been arrested, the guy can flatout stop the run. The only thing to factor in is if he is facing a suspension if he signs. We need a thug who brings the wood and has a rap sheet. Desperately.

September 15, 2015 at 07:48 pm

I was reading along just fine until the last sentence (not taking you serious). I burst out laughing. The "...has a rap sheet" part killed me.

Lphill

September 15, 2015 at 07:44 pm

Maybe Julious Peppers still has Lance Briggs cell phone number . You never know . One more chance at a ring .

September 15, 2015 at 08:10 pm

Good one.