Packers Deep Dive - Second Round Pick Josh Myers

A deeper dive into second-round pick Josh Myers. 

There’s something about the Green Bay Packers and drafting versatile offensive linemen. In the past two drafts, the Packers have taken six offensive linemen, most of whom are currently and projected to compete at a variety of positions. However, Josh Myers may have the center position waiting upon arrival.

Assuming Green Bay asks Myers to remain at his natural position, the team will have used a second-round pick to draft Corey Linsley’s replacement. Both Myers and Linsley attended Ohio State, and while playing for the Buckeyes, both started multiple seasons for some of the top offensives in the nation.

“Really versatile guy that can play anywhere inside,” General Manager Brian Gutekunst said of Myers. “Two-year starter at center. (Team) Captain…Josh is a 6-5, 310-pound center. He’s very, very smart. Very very strong. He played at a high level at Ohio State for a couple years there.”

Myers started his final two years in college and was named to the second-team All-Big Ten in 2019 and then earned first-team honors last season. For the past two years, Myers has snapped the ball the quarterback Justin Fields, the 11th overall pick from this year’s draft.

In two years as the Buckeyes’ starter, Fields accumulated 5,373 passing yards and tossed 63 touchdowns. Meanwhile, Myers was the one running the show by calling protections.

“He was one of the centers that kind of ran the show there,” said Gutekunst. “He’s a little bit bigger than some of the centers we’ve had here, which I like.”

Standing at 6-5, Myers comes in two inches taller than Linsley, height didn’t stop Linsley from becoming one of the best run-blocking centers in the league. He consistently opened holes and climbed to the second level to engage with linebackers. His athleticism set him apart from most of his counterparts.

Myers is also very athletic. He showcased nimble feet, good bend, and a strong ability to transition between blocks to spring open holes at Ohio State. This helped JK Dobbins become the first-ever 2,000-yard running back in school history.

Obviously, Myers has a long way to go to reach the All-Pro level Linsley played at in 2020. Linsley had immeasurable chemistry with Aaron Rodgers, but the two had to begin working together immediately after Linsley was forced to start as a rookie in 2014. Linsley maintained that role for the next six seasons, starting 99 games as the nucleus for one of the best offensive lines in the league.

Unfortunately, the Packers couldn’t afford to keep Linsley. Luckily, they have replacement options in Elgton Jenkins, Lucas Patrick, and now Myers. The way things are shaping up, Myers could find himself following a similar path to Linsley.

Ideally, he wouldn’t start right away, but if left tackle David Bakhtiari misses the start of the regular season, some positions will need to be shuffled. Jenkins could find himself at tackle, and either Patrick or Myers could be the starting center. If Myers is the guy, don’t fret, Green Bay has a ton of confidence in him.

“His size, his athleticism, his power, how smart he is, what they asked him to do at Ohio State, understanding he could handle that stuff here, that was intriguing to us. He just fit what we’re all about.”

 

 

Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.

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NickPerry's picture

May 04, 2021 at 06:32 am

Nice pick by Gute. I know some wanted Creed Humpfrey but maybe Humpfrey wasn't as versitile as Meyers, at least in Gutes eyes. Every write up I've read they mention Meyers strengh and ability to get to the second level. He has experience in zone blocking schemes and at OSU was asked to hold a lot of blocks, at least compared to so many other offenses in pass pro because OSU ran so many deep routes.

O-Linemen are NEVER sexy picks or picks who get people ramped up. BUT with whoever the Packers QB is you want him protected. Rodgers doesn't move quite as well as he used to, and you sure as hell don't want Love gettting mashed to hell before he even has started his career.

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NoNonsense's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:20 pm

Humphrey may or may not be as versatile but what I read is he snaps the ball left handed and has issues with erratic shotgun snaps. In this offense that's an issue that cant be ignored.

I personally liked the belly aka Meinerz but hes only played guard in college. His projection to center is just that, a projection If they wanted a plug and play guy then Myers or Humphrey were probably the choices.

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Razer's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:18 am

It is kind of like replacing your furnace. Few know that you got a new one as long as it is doing a good job. Not sexy but needed. I always thought that centers were a later round thing (Linsley 5th) but the good ones must cost more.

Welcome Josh - sorry for the noise.

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murf7777's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:02 am

“I always thought that centers were a later round thing (Linsley 5th) but the good ones must cost more.“

Times they are a changing.... at least for this year.

Pick 37 Dickerson
62 Myers
63 Humphrey
98 Meinerz

That does seem like a lot in the top 100.

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murf7777's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:53 am

Athleticism, big, leadership and a good head on his shoulders, sounds great to me.

Packers continue to seek out not just athletic players, but ones who are captains and leaders, that doesn’t always show up on the mock draft boards. Their formula has worked for decades now. There is normally “The Who?” factor in their picks but in the end they are one of the best teams drafting players year in and year out.

In the last decade, they have the 3rd most players who have made the pro bowl and that is with a couple of tough years with TT’s illness.

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stockholder's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:01 am

I like that you pointed to the Packers options. Because thats why this pick was a reach in rd 2. We did have Options. I Believe he can be a good center. But it's the options the packers had, that makes this draft poor. Again Gute wasn't building a winner. He was only concerned with his own ego and making sure he cemented his place in packers history. Meyers is a productive player. But the center position is not as solid as it use to be. There will be growing pains. And if you don't get two guys on either side of him that can balance out his play. This line won't keep a QB safe. If Meyers gets hurt. We will be drafting another center next year. So if you want him to succeed. Pray he doesn't get hurt.

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ckoski's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:46 am

How exactly does Gutekunst build his ego by building a loser?

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Turophile's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:31 am

exactly, ckoski.
Remember how we heard for years how 'arrogant' TT was, when he was about as humble as anyone you could meet. Some people just don't seem to know what arrogant really means.

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packer132's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:20 am

Another negative post by Stockholder. Poor draft? Drafts can't be really graded until 2-3 years or more. Rodgers sat for 3 years, so he was a poor draft pick? Pray he doesn't get hurt? C'mon man!

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stockholder's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:53 am

Yes lets grade everything in three years, and the year after, and after, and after,- You haven't been watching the packers for the last ten years. Kicking the can down the road only leaves it more dented. Everyone looks at Rodgers sitting the bench. But he dropped in the draft. And the reason he was taken was because ; #4 hand , an operation to his thumb. Very delicate at the time!! TT didn't trade up for him. And Give him the back-up job without earning it. Gute plays the shell game to perfection. And has gotten rich off it.

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packer132's picture

May 04, 2021 at 11:48 am

I've been watching the Packers longer than you (1960's). Jaire was not good until his 3rd year, so we should have graded him "poor" after his draft? Do you ever have a positive thing to say about your team? Maybe the Packers are not your team.

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stockholder's picture

May 04, 2021 at 02:56 pm

I've been a fan since 1960. Your examples don't fit the comment. if you don't like what I have to say. Don't respond to it. Try Acme impress them.

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murf7777's picture

May 04, 2021 at 03:24 pm

So, over the past 10 years they are 3rd in drafting players who got to the pro bowl, how is that bad drafting? In addition, that is with two years where TT was ill and hardly at his best. You make no sense in most of your posts.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 10:43 am

I always hope that anyone we draft doesn’t get hurt, naturally. In terms of ego, this type of functional draft would seem the opposite of an ego trip.

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NickPerry's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:33 am

"If Meyers gets hurt. We will be drafting another center next year. So if you want him to succeed. Pray he doesn't get hurt."

Sorry SH but wouldn't this apply to EVERY and ANY draft choice by Gute and the Packers?

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May 04, 2021 at 08:08 am

Regardless of who the QB is, a line that can give him time to do his job and open holes in the run game is the best possible elixir for the offense.

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Bearmeat's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:49 am

Gute went heavier at OL than I expected. Obviously they're hedging in case Jenkins needs to play half the year at LT/RT, with Turner manning the other spot. Probably smart. Either way, we're in great shape across the OL. Actually, the whole damn offense looks lit.

Except at QB... :(

ARod, you suck.

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greengold's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:40 am

You might be surprised at Jordan Love. I have 100% confidence he can get the job done with LaFleur's guidance, a power rushing attack and a stronger D.

People around here are acting like Love's arm fell off or something. Negatives are based on his 2019 season where he lost 4 starting OL and 3 WRs, with a new HC and a new system, and his numbers were still pretty good, when you consider he finish THAT year with a 129.1 passer rating. ( the guy plays through adversity pretty well, considering...)

2018??? HO-LY CRAP!
267 Comp, 417 Att, 64%, 3,567 yds, 9.4 AY/A, 32 TDS, 6 INT and a 158.3 passer rating.

Love's 158.3 Passer Rating from 2018 is still better than anything Aaron Rodgers had. EVER. It is highly possible we are perfectly fine at QB, with Jordan Love as our 2021 starter.

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As for Josh Myers, I really, really like this pick. Bigger dude who can maul. With Aaron Rodgers out, I suspect Jordan Love will be hearing a lot of run plays in his helmet from LaFleur, and we'll see him actually run them. I find this selection to be super smart, as a good C may be more NFL ready in general than OT, which require more specialization at the NFL level. Jones, Dillon and Hill should provide one hell of a punch, and I can't wait to see it, along with the blocking up front from Myers.

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 04, 2021 at 10:06 am

Why draft a QB with the One pick to have him hand off? Myers is a plug and play guy. Jenkins will not be playing center. They had their pick btw him and Humphrey and chose a guy who can move in space. If anyone was over-drafted it was the center from "Bama.

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greengold's picture

May 04, 2021 at 01:07 pm

I'm not saying they picked him to hand off. Hardly. I mean, I went to the work of looking up his passing numbers and sharing them FFS.

I didn't communicate my thoughts well on this, sorry, Jannes. With all the stuff going on, I question how much of LaFleur's intended play calls were actually run. Just thinking a younger QB guided by LaFleur will be more focused on doing what the HC wants done in any given situation. That's all I was pointing to, really, along with the fact that the RBs we have, and now the OL we have, can be one hell of a weapon to put to good use more frequently. I'm a very firm believer in running the rock.

No more back and forth on this QB stuff for me. I'm done.

This is my last comment on our QBs - until Rodgers is traded...

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May 04, 2021 at 02:07 pm

I compared Rodgers and Love's last two years in college (Sophomore & Junior).

Very, very similar in production. While Rodgers threw for fewer INTS and had a slightly higher QBR, Love had more yards and TDs.

And unlike Love who had so much turnover his Jr year...Rodgers was blessed with stability.

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RCPackerFan's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:53 am

Linsley is one of the best OC's in the league and was paid like it. He earned that. Replacing him will not be easy.

What the Packers did was set themselves up really well in allowing them to have options to replace Linsley. They have Patrick and Jenkins who they could slide into OC. But by doing that, it could make the OG positions weaker.

Drafting Myers was a really good move. Hopefully he will be a plug and play OC. Coming from Ohio State he has done many of the the things that GB will be asking him to do. And he has done it against big time competition. It looks like he has the quickness to do a lot of the things that Linsley was able to do. There hopefully won't be a huge drop off from Linsley.

This will hopefully be like the Jenkins pick.

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greengold's picture

May 04, 2021 at 12:03 pm

I keep thinking, did Gutekunst strike R2 gold twice in two years with Elgton Jenkins and Josh Myers??? Both Centers who can play multiple positions. Both team leaders, smart, capable.

That would be pretty cool.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

May 04, 2021 at 08:53 am

Excited to see him and so many others in camp including Love, and maybe even Jerry Jeudy. :)

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Turophile's picture

May 04, 2021 at 11:48 am

Fair or not, Myers will always be compared to Creed Humphrey who went with the next pick, and to a lesser extent, Quinn Meinerz, who was available with the Packers third round pick (at #92).

If either or both do better than Myers, Gute will get as much grief over time, as was given when Kevin King was taken over T,J.Watt in 2017, the last year TT was the GM.

If Myers outperforms them because he was a better fit in Green Bay, Gute gets all the credit for having the courage of his convictions.

Personally, I'd rather have taken OT Brady Christensen at #62 (he went at pick #70), let's hope Gute knows more than me on this.

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Packerpasty's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:36 am

Gutes locks on to a guy and reaches for them. Hopefully this guy works out. If you don't think gates reaches for people looks back a year at the first three picks...which is where all this drama started. Gutes is mediocre as a GM...my take..

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jannes bjornson's picture

May 04, 2021 at 04:17 pm

He and Humphrey were rated for the second round, no reach. All-Big Ten.

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PeteK's picture

May 04, 2021 at 05:42 pm

Beating ourselves in the last game should be the only drama discussed. The previous drama was cancelled once our offense starting running like a well oiled machine to the tune of second best in football.

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May 04, 2021 at 09:39 am

I think that I read that Myers was selected over the other centers mentioned because the team valued his size and smarts. The size issue was because in the NFC there are a lot of big NT’s that we face and unlike a lot of tall centers Myers doesn’t have a problem with bend and quick movements. He was also a team captain, graduated with two degrees and played in a good system. And he is tough and loyal. He played through a nasty turf toe injury to the point where he needed surgery because he made it worse. He did so knowing that it would hurt his draft stock yet did so out of loyalty to his teammates.

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Coldworld's picture

May 04, 2021 at 10:49 am

I don’t know if Creed Humphrey is better. I do know both are much more ready than a guy from a division III offense. This year I applaud that being a factor. What I do like is the rationale given for picking him. All of those points are valid reasons to like a C. Now we have to see if they were correct in their evaluation.

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May 04, 2021 at 01:12 pm

Those are some awesome intangibles. If he can play at the next level he sounds like a team captain, locker room leader kind of guy.

I also like the size and athleticism. I think if Dillon is our early down, downhill runner we could see a lot of 4-5 man fronts, so having big strong dudes on the line that can still get some push and leverage will be important. Combine that with the fact that we are carrying 5 TEs and could conceivably see up to 3 on the field (1 inline, one wide, Deguara or Daffney in the backfield) on called runs it seems like GB is setting up well for more of a power football offense.

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May 04, 2021 at 11:31 am

I like Humphrey too, being an outstanding HS wrestler...and I am partial to great wrestlers playing in the trenches...balance, leverage, hand fighting stuff.

But I do not think Myers will always be compared to Humphrey. If fact, I will venture the comparisons ended on Friday.

Myers checked a lot of boxes for how ML likes his OL....versatile, smart, strong and adept at both pass pro and run blocking...especially the feet and speed to get to the second level in the wide zone...like Jenks. Myers brings all of this playing at a very high level for a top college program. And at OSU...same as the Badgers...being Team Captain is no small thing.

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croatpackfan's picture

May 05, 2021 at 02:39 am

"... let's hope Gute knows more than me on this."

I bet he knows more than you, and I bet he is better evaluator than you. If for no other reason than because that is his job. Also, he has team of people in personnel department and scouting network who are helping him.

I also believe that they were scouting Myers through his whole 3 seasons in college. He saw his upsides and downsides, how he develop and what is his work ethic. At least if I am at the GM position, I would doing like that. It is not that they sits down week before draft and watching tapes of every players eligible for draft and based on that making decisions.

I can imagine that they have more than 2000 new players under scouting every season, across US. And they follow them. Some of those players fell out scouting quickly, if they show no or small amount of talent, Others remains in scouting program and that is how you build your data base. Not by reading NFL "experts" publication or other "scouting" sources, as base to the decision. That is how fans make their crushes for players, not professionals.

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NickPerry's picture

May 05, 2021 at 05:37 am

I think the reason Chrsitenson lasted as long as he did was he's a older dude. Isn't he already 25 or close to it? That's a BIG difference.

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nostradanus's picture

May 04, 2021 at 09:27 am

Got to protect the franchise..........Jordan Love

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May 04, 2021 at 09:57 am

Murphy and Gute aren't perfect. They've made mistakes. But they've generally done well. I'm still on the fence about Murphy's organizational structure, but it hasn't blown up the dam. Yet.

But ARod? I'm (admittedly) irrationally angry at him. His passive aggressive BS. The intentional leaks. The non-denial-denials. The hypocritical "my life is a beautiful mystery " BS? The hypocrisy of doing the EXACT same thing to your teammates and fans and your replacement that you SWORE you'd never do after your predecessor did it to you? Bastard.

Shut up, tool. You need to have your head examined. Everyone (and I mean everyone) needs to have several people in their lives who have a license to tell you that you're full of crap. ARod, you've systematically shut down or alienated every single person who has had the ability to hold you accountable.

You are a sick man. Get help. In the meantime, SHUT UP. Do your damn job and stop blaming others for your problems.

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May 04, 2021 at 12:09 pm

gold star. gold star. gold star. gold star. gold star. gold star. gold star.

Did anybody hear that Innis Gaines is SUPER PISSED at Brian Gutekunst for not calling him before he signed Christian Uphoff?

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May 04, 2021 at 12:44 pm

Thanks. LOL!

That was an epic, cathartic, AM sportstalk radio worthy rant. I feel better. :)

I'll probably check out a bit from now until training camp or until the unlikely event that the douchenozzle is traded. I can't handle another Summer-of-Favre. I have a family now and better things to do than get pizzed at a little baby QB.

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packer132's picture

May 04, 2021 at 07:20 pm

Bearmeat: Probably the best post on all of this Rodgers crap. I was an Aaron fan for years, but so tired of his premeditated revenge and petty behavior, and ready for him to go to a new team. Time for a fresh start with Jordan Love at the lead.

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May 04, 2021 at 11:57 am

LOL! However I do want Rodgers under center in 2021. But if not, I will be disappointed. Not as shocked and sad as I was when Favre has his news conference saying good bye (only to begin the drama a few weeks later!).

There are so many similarities between the Packers two future HOF QBs. Both talented college QBs who dropped in the draft. Both were second fiddle with their first teams (Favre was even 3rd fiddle in Atlanta!). Both had to deal with #1 picks drafted to eventually replace them, both engineered controversy and seemed vindictive and angry with ultimatums.

If it is Love this year, he will inherit a better Team than either Favre or Rodgers did. Of course it has been said Love can't use the ground game all year to run to the playoffs. That is true...although I think ML and Hackett will develop play strategy to help him be successful.

However, I must add the Niners did indeed "run" to the SB vs the Pack in 2019.

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May 04, 2021 at 10:02 am

I think there’s plenty of blame to go around here with regards to Rodgers and management. When Murphy let Ted Thompson go he said there were all these silos that were built up and he was going to eliminate those silos. Well it looks to me like he is not eliminated those silos and maybe even increased the dysfunction between management and players. But the door swings both ways Rogers probably needs to communicate better too. Of course he has an incredibly large ego and always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. I think when all is said and done the Packers will stand firm will not trade Rogers and will force him to make a choice. You can’t have the lunatics running the asylum that’s what’s happening in the NBA and that’s why the NBA is crap.
Even though I think management is partially at fault here I have to side with them on this one, just like when the Brett Favre thing happened I’m a Packer fan first and always will be. Go Pack!

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May 04, 2021 at 10:10 am

The Players are their own corporations. Blame the culture.

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May 04, 2021 at 10:30 am

Well said Nostrdanus. Life is life and things are not perfect. People could have communicated better - no doubt. This works on all fronts and in both directions. Hijacking the draft to leak your damning and threats is not the way to behave. What Rodgers did to his team, teammates, the community and the draft was disrespectful, unprofessional and egotistical. The Packers are in a tough spot because they haven't got time to wait for Rodgers to grown up. Very sad.

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May 04, 2021 at 11:53 am

Damn right Razer, Rodgers draft day hissy fit was strategically timed and in poor taste.

It ruined the draft weekend experience for me and thousands of fans I’m sure.

I love Rodgers as a player but.....he’s a major asshole.

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May 04, 2021 at 11:46 am

There is a great article written by Andrew Brandt about the current QB saga. He was VP in the front office during the Favre soap opera.

He says after the Packers picked Rodgers, Favre too, was bitter and angry. The Favre Camp was routinely complaining "How would you like to come to work everyday with your replacement in the room?"

And the Rodgers Camp were also kind of prickly and whiny telling management "Come on! When is Aaron going to get to play. Are you going to trade him?"

Relationship between Favre and Rodgers, according to Brandt was not at all good but they kept the situation hidden from the public. And to Favre's credit, he mostly complained to team management, not the press except to speak up once about a question about mentoring Rodgers..."why do I have to coach him...not my job."

Brandt still thinks this will be resolved and that Rodgers is using his MVP leverage to get traded to a bigger market with his current huge contract in tow, or more guarantees in salary or a year added on. But he also says Rodgers knows the Packers are not going over pamper him and place the team's financials in long term "Jeopardy!".

But even Rodgers knows his best place to play, at least for the next two years is in Green Bay. He has a supporting cast that can make him look very good.

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May 04, 2021 at 12:04 pm

Murphy and Gute are in charge, not Aaron. Hope management doesn’t give in. As good as Rodgers is, it’s a team game. GPG.

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May 04, 2021 at 03:51 pm

Bring the 2 people in the packer organization with the largest egos Aaron and Gute and bring in Dr Phil to sort it all out.

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May 04, 2021 at 01:21 pm

I don't know if it's Gute's draft style or the Packer scouting staff but the Packers generally seem to draft players far ahead of where draft expert consensus has them pegged. Creed and Meyers is an example but there are many. A.J. Dillon, DeGuere... Love.

I realize that draft "experts" is a loose term, but before the draft, an awful lot of sites and forecasters do a lot of diligent work trying to peg player slots. Of course, they miss a ton, but that's their job, so I imagine they see an awful lot of player tape. Generally, in the first two or three rounds, there is remarkable consistency. It's only by the 4th round where it becomes a crapshoot.

I like our first three picks, but... nowhere did I see Stokes in the 1st round and many cases, not even the 2nd. Yes, he's fast, but there were major issues pointed out of his stumbling, poor tackling... in fact as I looked at CB rankings I never imagined we'd draft him in the first because he generally was ranked around the 7th or 8th top corner, although in some cases as high as 5. He just sounded an awful lot like Keven King.

I never saw Meyers go as early as the 2nd round, and never ahead of Creed. The gap was almost always large. Yet Gute took Meyers. After the pick, I checked all the write-ups of Meyers and Creed. Boy, Gute sure must have seen something none of the others did, because no one, not a single person I read had Meyers first. Here's an example: "Myers was the fourth OC on our Big Board, with Humphrey and Meinerz still available. With 6 sacks and 27 pressures credited to him the last two years, Myers feels like a bit of a reach here." Creed went the next pick. Here's his write-up: ... has been as solid as a rock. The 3-time All American has not allowed a sack in his college career. That is 2,327 snaps over 37 career games!

Amari Rodgers went about where the consensus was and I think he was a great pick and was even ranked higher than where he was picked which is why Gute wisely traded up to get him.

But Gute does seem to lock on a player. Taking your 1st and 2nd round picks way too early means you're forecasting that a player with lesser credentials will ultimately outperform those almost universally recognized as being superior.

It's how you get King over T.J. Watt

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May 04, 2021 at 01:48 pm

Johnny, I see this differently. Studied all kinds of different mocks, and saw Stokes listed anywhere from R1 to R3. The funny thing is, mocks adjusted over time too, and there were a TON of copycats.

I do this deep dive stuff every year, and see the exact same things. There are lazy writers out there, and there are good ones. There are great scouts who are accurate, and others who don't know what the hell they are talking about. Real scouts employed by teams don't share a ton, save for limited stuff with the best writers in the biz. There are many former scouts in the DIC, and some of them are good, and hear stuff in their networks. Have to take much with a grain of salt.

You can see mock draft adjustments after the first ones come out, about 2 or 3 weeks in from that date. R6 players jump up into Day 2 or Day 1 territory. Always a lot of flux after Pro Days and Combines. Then another shuffle or two.

Regardless, teams have so much resource $$$ poured into this, that what we are able to access as fans is the tail of the dog, wagging away all over the place.

Yeah, there are undeniable qualities in players that help place them in desired or undesirable slots. Videos of highlights are shared, but few actually watch whole game tapes to see what these players really do.

To me, we are just about to see how good Brian Gutekunst is at drafting, and how good his scouting staff is. We are also about to get our first looks at how Matt LaFleur is doing with player development being his year 3.

No GM is without fail in drafts/FA. I'd say Gutekunst did pretty well landing Jaire Alexander in his first draft, along with the latter round WRs in 2018. The rest of it was loaded with duds.

2019, his 2nd draft as GM brought Gary, Savage, and Elgton Jenkins. The other 5 players are still on the team,

Last year's draft? WAY too early to tell what we have gotten in terms of quality or grade.

I like what he did this year and have very little to gripe about, myself, even though it did not go as I had wished, as a fan, with limited DIC info. Looking at the picks, and the focus on certain areas of our team, I like it. We'll see. Gutekunst got some exceptional talents, steals as far back as R7!!! That appears to be the case, and how can you argue, fixation or not?

Watt and King were Ted. Imagine if he had taken Eric Kendricks instead of Damarius Randall... I'll have no complaints until they are warranted, and we're just starting to see what he's done to transform this Packer team into a more competitive group of players 1-53.

They scour FA, etc, tirelessly to improve the bottom of their roster. Not without mistakes. They are human. To me, they have my full support, unless they prove otherwise. Go Pack!

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May 04, 2021 at 02:08 pm

Good take G&G, When you are drafting at the end of every round you get the scraps and sometimes you get lucky. The guys I love that they drafted are Myers, he’s is a good Midwestern kid that will fit in perfectly in Green Bay. Absolutely love the AmariRogers pick, Stokes I think will be good in time you cant teach speed. Hill is another Jamaal Williams in my opinion and Jean Charles could be a real sleeper pick. I wasn’t crazy about the Royce Newman pic because Nixon the defensive tackle fell right into their laps and they didn’t take him, but I’m sure they had their reasons. All in all it was a very packer draft not very exciting but solid.

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May 04, 2021 at 02:59 pm

I agree with you to a large extent Greenie. I like Gutes draft and as for last year, I’m glad we’ve got Dillon and DeGuere. Love too. As I said on draft day last year this is a team that will not get a top five QB unless one drops and Love did. I wasn’t necessarily criticizing.

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May 04, 2021 at 02:21 pm

TT dd the KK over TJ thing and it still sticks in my craw.

As far as reaching...based on what, some TV analyst guy? I would like to see how the talking heads performed on the draft 2-3 years later.

I recall expert board builders saying Alexander was a bit of reach too. Gary as well.

I have no issues with Myers. Feels like the Jenkins pick.

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May 05, 2021 at 02:49 am

I bet Gute knows more than you, and I bet Gute is better evaluator than you and all of those journalist "experts" on players. If for no other reason than because that is his job. Also, he has team of people in personnel department and scouting network who are helping him.

I also believe that they were scouting all drafted players through his whole seasons in college. They saw their upsides and downsides, how they develop and what is they work ethic. At least if I am at the GM position, I would doing like that. It is not that they sits down week before draft and watching tapes of every players eligible for draft and based on that making decisions.

I can imagine that they have more than 2000 new players under scouting every season, across US. And they follow them. Some of those players fell out scouting quickly, if they show no or small amount of talent, Others remains in scouting program and that is how you build your data base. Not by reading NFL "experts" publication or other "scouting" sources, as base to the decision. That is how fans make their crushes for players, not professionals.

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May 04, 2021 at 05:06 pm

The CB room was empty. 1 good CB - that's it. Not going to win too many NFL games with that. I wanted CB in Rounds 1 & 2. QB's just picked on them and it was super easy - especially in the NFC title game. Hollman & Jackson never played. Undrafted slot DB Sullivan. Not good.
King is a bust. GB still needs a few more guys at CB.

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May 04, 2021 at 08:12 pm

It's a start, and team should be better. Also got Charles in the 5th and Uphoff could help the secondary. Maybe Russell or Samuels take a step up. I wanted DL help, which was addressed even less. I trust that management knows more than me.

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