Packer Transplants 269: A big test for Love

Corey and Aaron break down the win over the Panthers, asses the fallout from Jaire's suspension and ready themselves for Jordan Love's biggest test yet when the Packers take on the Minnesota Vikings on New Year's Eve.

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Bear's picture

December 27, 2023 at 05:51 pm

Jaire, has learned he must take responsibility for his actions. His lack of maturity & diva attitude cost him this time. Hopefully he learns from it…

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canadapacker's picture

December 27, 2023 at 07:00 pm

Here's done.

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Fubared's picture

December 27, 2023 at 08:11 pm

Excuse me but he is an adult not 15.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 28, 2023 at 08:32 am

It costs the whole team if nobody can cover Justin Jefferson. Ja took him out of the last game last season.

It will be interesting to see how that goes ...

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lpirlot's picture

December 27, 2023 at 06:01 pm

Aaron Jones took himself out for those two Taylor runs due to the big hit he took.

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Wilment's picture

December 27, 2023 at 06:19 pm

I think Love is ready, problem will be on the other side of the ball. for everyone who thought there wasnt an issue with JA before this, those games where he was fine to practice but not to play should say something. When Douglas piped up and had something to say, Gunty suddenly had a Godfather moment when the Bills Mafia "made him an offer he couldn't. refuse. This was done while the team was still in playoff contention......how are those pics gonna help us make the playoffs this year?? If the response is "Well, Douglas was an UFA, so we got something for him", fyi, we would have likely gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder as a compensation pick, plus had a guy that could actually play the slot for this year. Ive been a Packer fan for almost sixty years, and this has been a very confusing year. By all means suspend JA because his mistake could have cost us the game, but dont fire Barry whose inept game planning HAS cost us several games. Pray someone swaps the vikings wide outs Stick-um can with super glue....that way they stick together after the first high five GOPACKGO!

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Since'75's picture

December 27, 2023 at 07:01 pm

I agree, i think Love is ready also, you never know, but i will say this, he's looked better this season then i ever envisioned.

All of Jaire's injury report the last 2 months were limited practice's which isn't a sign that a player will play on game day.
Limited practices usually consist of stretching, light walk throughs, and maybe light jogging.

I'm not sure i'd lose much sleep over the Vikings who will start either Dobbs, or Mullens.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 27, 2023 at 08:32 pm

They'll always have that loser Viking DNA. Honestly though, this is the Viking super bowl, beating Green Bay is the pinnacle for them and their fans.

Must be nice having ambitions that are oh so close...

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 28, 2023 at 08:41 am

Don't take the Viqueens for granted. This team has managed to lose against bad teams.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 29, 2023 at 06:15 am

Viqueens aren't starting either of your guesses, but their fifth round rookie.

GB gotta feast!

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Untylu1968's picture

December 28, 2023 at 06:23 am

Weren't our biggest wins and best positioning to make the playoffs after Douglas left? We don't need old disgruntled veterans around poisoning a young locker room.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 28, 2023 at 10:04 am

Yes, our big playoff move happened after the Douglas trade. The win streak was an unexpected benefit of the trade.

Some people have a narrative they won't let go of. The other thing they fail to understand was the cap benefit of letting Douglas and his salary go.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 29, 2023 at 06:26 am

Not a single person here fails to understand the cap.

Giving Rasul Douglas away for nothing in no way helped win games.

The drama is all about facing Brian Flores on the Viqueens sideline instead of having him in GB with THIS defense performing above their talent level like he's doing in MN. Douglas Campbell and Ja would be thrilled to play in a situation like that, and need to be speaking up about what's wrong and how to fix it; at the end of last season JB promised his players they would play more aggressively. He LIED.

That's the drama.

I won't pretend to know everybody's motives or what the future holds, but IF keeping JB loses the locker room and chases all the best defensive players away? D was supposed to be the strength of this team, carrying the O through their "youth movement" / reload which is synonymous with a rebuild even though that was a four letter word. Instead you'd have to rebuild the D if JB lost the locker room. That wasn't the plan and Kenny Clarke is a year older.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 28, 2023 at 08:38 am

Wilment,

yes and more, the third round pick in exchange for Rasul Douglas AND a fifth round pick won't contribute what Rasul could next year, either. Gutey gave him away for nothing just because he was desperate to make a trade, any trade. The market wouldn't bear more? Fine, don't trade.

As bad as that was, the way Gutey handled Rasul was WORSE. It went a long way towards losing the locker room. It told everybody that no matter how well they play, they're worthless to this organization.

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Since'75's picture

December 27, 2023 at 06:43 pm

When De'vondre Campbell made his comments against the Packers on twitter, i responded with.....

It seems like a lot of the Packers star players have had problems at some point or another with the Packers.
I also mentioned there was some drama with Jaire and the Packers based mostly on reading between the lines of what i was hearing on sports talk.
No one was positive what happened, like (he was cleared by Packers medical, but said he wasn't well enough to play, and some other things tossed around).
I believed it was substantial enough to bring it up when speaking about Campbell, then boom, one game suspension.

In MLF's presser, a reporter asked him if it was one incident, or a compilation.
MLF stated that all he could tell us is it wasn't just one incident.

He then tried to talk it off as he stated, he and Jaire had a good talk and that's that...lol
Bill Huber i think it was, wasn't letting it go, which irked MLF.

I don't think this would have happened with McCarthy, because in my view, the reporters were far more afraid of him.
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Just for grins.....I read something interesting about Davante Adams.
Back when he was becoming a free agent, i never believed that Adams was going to resign, Rodgers or not.
I had the impression his relationship with the Packers was at a crossroads with him and he wasn't resigning. No matter what Gute, Rodgers, or MLF might have said.
I think some (most?) of us knew he was leaving.

Anyway, i read this article about Adam's home he bought in Nevada.
Apparently, he bought this house two weeks before he was officially traded to the Raiders. 🤷‍♂️

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Wilment's picture

December 27, 2023 at 08:18 pm

I agree, but the Adams thing is simple, his family still lives in Cali , only a few hours by car from lost wages, but buying a house in vegas was a financial thng> California is the tax me. state, Nevada has no state incine tax, and on 150 mil, thats a huge amount of money saved

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Since'75's picture

December 28, 2023 at 01:29 am

The Adams thing, is highly coincidental with it's timing.

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canadapacker's picture

December 27, 2023 at 07:27 pm

To me this is not Love's biggest moment - this is more like Lafleur's career changing moment. If he does what he did near the mid point of the season - ie call vanilla offensive plays - and Love gets sacked sitting in the pocket - then at the end of the year - not only will Barry will be gone - but Lafleur also. I favour keeping Lafleur and letting Barry go. I think that it is in the teams ( and Love's) best interest to keep Love's progression going. We have all seen what happens when teams change HC ( especially those as OC as well) New York Giants, Buffalo, Carolina, etc etc. First rounders especially high first rounders need to develop with a consistant philosophy and switching things around can be career limiting for these draft picks. Final note - as we see this year - perhaps the Green Bay approach ( also what KC did with Mahommes) But some consistency is required for at least 1 more year. And we would have been in a lot better place with a better defense this year and if Lafleur wouldnt have dummied down the offense with the lack of movement early in the season.

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 27, 2023 at 08:35 pm

How do you explain Demeco Ryans success in Houston - new head coach, rookie QB?

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canadapacker's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:31 pm

So you picked one - and the team is 8-7 and it is quite flukey - given all the other first rounders and especially high first rounders over ( and just pick the last 5 years) who have had first round flops - even in Cinci the first year was a no go. It on average doesnt work - that is my point. My point is success is not as good as with consistency - look at Daniel jones and this year Bryce Young and Chicagos great success - so what do you want a good chance or a one in a million chance?

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 28, 2023 at 08:47 am

MLF as OC could keep JL10 on track, with a HC that is good at that job description. Which MLF is very decidedly not.

I'm not saying that will happen, but the whole team would be a lot better.

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Fubared's picture

December 27, 2023 at 08:27 pm

Sounds familiar. Det Lions had a disgruntled corner or safety that got benched for stupid plays and had words with coaches, bingo he was traded. Not to much later another d hack same thing, your outa here. Ya one guy sees what it takes to get out of dodge on a losing team and another one does the same thing.
Wonder if Campbell and Jairre see how Douglas went to a contender and are stirring the pot for there own exit. These agents tell there people who want to move to act up and become a problem. They can't afford to just bench you it's too costly

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Bitternotsour's picture

December 27, 2023 at 08:38 pm

i=It's a totally different situation for the Vikings. They tend to draft people who are fine with losing and never tasting a championship.

For Minnesota, it's a culture, it's in the DNA. Maybe it's in the water?

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LLCHESTY's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:03 pm

Fubared has drank plenty of that water.

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Untylu1968's picture

December 28, 2023 at 07:27 am

How'd that work out for Detroit? You have some overpriced, unproductive veterans, stirring the shit pot, while making a great wage. Get rid of them, replace them with young and hungry guys, and boom, you're division champs.

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BruceC1960's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:09 pm

Congratulations to Behnke for joining the Mt Rushmore of holiday negativity.
Behnke- Scrooge- Grinch-Mr Potter

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GVPacker's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:12 pm

All roads lead to Matt LeFleur. If MLF had dealt with the Joe Barry problem during the offseason and went out and made an honest attempt
to bring In a reasonably competent DC maybe some of the Packers who are now malcontents would have been motivated to play to their expected level!
Mo Drayton was just another example of how foolish and bizarre MLF's thought process Is. Maybe this nightmare ends when Mark Murphy retires and
a new regime Is brought In to fix this mess....one can only hope!

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Pac1919's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:24 pm

The bottom line here is that Joe Barry lost his locker room. The players are done with him and so are the fans, he needs to be let go now.

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SinceLombardi's picture

December 27, 2023 at 11:02 pm

Hasn’t MLF lost it too? Throwing players under the bus for Barry. SMH.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

December 28, 2023 at 08:50 am

Don't discount how much Gutey contributed to losing the locker room.

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Pac1919's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:29 pm

Joe Barry has lost the locker room the player attitudes show It he needs to be fired before this shit spreads to the rest of the team

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exbody's picture

December 27, 2023 at 09:56 pm

What would Lombardi do?

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butchroy's picture

December 28, 2023 at 09:06 am

There are no player leaders on the defensive side or they would stop these actions. can not always blame coaches for locker room. yes Barry must go.

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