Malcolm Jenkins: Forgotten Man
By PackerAaron
Pete Dougherty has a great write up about Ohio State cornerback/safety Malcolm Jenkins over at the Green Bay Press Gazette. I find it interesting that a little over a month ago, a lot of draftniks had the Packers taking Jenkins and there was all sorts of back and forth in Packer fandom on whether this was a good idea or not. Now? Nothing. His name is hardly ever mentioned when talk of the ninth overall pick comes up. Curious.
I will only say this - the following passage from Dougherty's piece, quoting an AFC personnel director, makes me think that Jenkins could still very well be the Packers' first round pick:
With the way he runs, (No. 9) might be a little bit of a reach...But he’s kind of got the (Wake Forest linebacker) Aaron Curry safeness, solidness about him. The guy’s going to be a good player that you’ll get enough value out of the pick. Even if you have to reach two, three, four spots I think it’s worth doing. It Seems like Green Bay is always drafting big corners. He’s a good, well rounded player. He’d fit pretty well with what they do. He’s kind of a poorer version of Charles Woodson back in his day, a guy that could play the corner and eventually move inside (to safety), or start as a safety if you really wanted him to.
Let's see. Solid, if unspectacular, football player? Yep, that's Ted Thompson's guy. And I wouldn't be surpised if the Justin Harrell selection, the one time Thompson took a real chance in the first round, makes him all the more determined to play it safe with this selection. For my part, again, I would be thrilled if the Packers got Jenkins. (I'd be ecstatic if they traded back to get him).
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Comments (26)
April 20, 2009 at 10:34 am
We don't need a corner who is too slow to probably stay at Corner, won't be a returner, and will turn out to be our 5th safety after struggling at corner for 3 years. I don't care, I don't want him...Period.
He would be a second rounder (late) in the last three drafts.
PackerAaron
April 20, 2009 at 10:36 am
"We don’t need a corner who is too slow to probably stay at Corner, won’t be a returner"...you just described Al Harris.
;)
April 20, 2009 at 11:20 am
Aaron, you forget Al Harris has history on his side. The officials tend to give him and Woodson a little leeway at the LOS. A rookie doing that would would have the flags a flying!
PackerAaron
April 20, 2009 at 11:27 am
Ron - are you serious? Harris gets an 'illegal hands to the face' penalty almost every game!
April 20, 2009 at 12:10 pm
I don't like the pick at #9. It's too high for Jenkins. I think Buck is right - he's a 2nd rounder in most years
PackerAaron
April 20, 2009 at 12:20 pm
No way is he a second round pick - in any year. You guys are way too dependent on the media. Have you watched him play? The guy is a very, very good football player. Is he Deion Sanders? No. But he's better than a second round corner...
April 20, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Maybe better than a second, but he is definitely a late 1st, not early. Plus, he could easily fall to the second if the cards fall right.
I'm not sure about him. Is he that good? Or is he the product of an outstanding college football program?
April 20, 2009 at 12:56 pm
And - gets away with five more!
April 20, 2009 at 01:00 pm
I wanted nothing to do with this guy..... then I watched some hilights.
He's VERY physical and LOVES to tackle. You can see him come up and play the run because he wants to hit someone - not just because he's supposed to.
Physical football player - nothing wrong with that.
April 20, 2009 at 01:01 pm
Aaron, there's a very good reason Jenkins was projected as a top-ten pick before the combine: His projection was based on 4 years of game tape, instead of one workout at the combine. Ridiculous. No media type has him rated as a 2nd-round prospect. He's a great talent, and I'd have no problem with that pick. Reminds me a lot of Troy Vincent in physical stature, football smarts, and two little things called leadership and character.
April 20, 2009 at 01:12 pm
I have a funny feeling we're talking about the Pack's #9 pick here.
Solid. Locker room guy. Physical. No character risks. Plays the run well (important in the division).
Yup - like it or not - this is probably the guy.
April 20, 2009 at 03:11 pm
i have a feeling that this pick will make me a tiny bit upset. My father and I will probally talk all offseason and most of the beigning of teh season how nice BJ Raji would have looked. But then Malcom will be so steady and such a good player, that I will forget all about my displeasure with the pick. i will also probally ignore my displeasure and pretend that I wanted him all along. (Kinda like I was with Aarron Rodgers and Nick Collins)
April 20, 2009 at 03:30 pm
Jenkins is a good player. He kind of had a off year at Ohio State this past season but who cares? He will still go in the first round in the draft for sure. Just not to the Packers.
I still say grab Oher if he is there and then trade with Cleveland. If not they have to be going with Maybin.
Anyone seen the rags to riches story on Oher? I can`t wait to see him succeed in the NFL.
April 20, 2009 at 04:25 pm
I do not love Jenkins at #9 but I do believe he's less of a gamble than anyone else that has been mentioned. He just has the instincts that make coaches salivate. He is a top 20 player in any draft, if you say otherwise you haven't watched him play.
April 20, 2009 at 04:57 pm
I don't want to have to look at Jenkins's gross arm scars every week. But I agree that he is among their likely targets.
April 20, 2009 at 05:17 pm
selfishly i want us to make a bigger splash with a big name D lineman... but just watching a couple highlight videos demonstrates how hard and vicious he tackles. Hes a football player for sure.
and if you need more evidence that we will be picking Jenkins... watch this video and try to tell me that Ted Thompson didnt script his answers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7kz099vHEs&feature=related
April 20, 2009 at 05:22 pm
That's a tad insulting Aaron. Yes, I have seen him play (which was the basis of my comment). He can't cover. I have no idea what he'll be like in the locker room or anything else that people are speculating about. I only know what I saw in 3 games last year. BTW, if I'm influenced by a media source I will cite it (like I often do with the NFL Network). Otherwise, I can watch football just as well as anyone else
PackerAaron
April 20, 2009 at 06:54 pm
Come on Andrew - insulting? Saying he can't cover is as much a stretch as saying he'd be a 2nd round pick any other year. I categorically disagree with both those statements and I find it hard to believe that you've been looking at the same player I have...
April 20, 2009 at 08:24 pm
Interesting that the draft guy at NFPost recently bumped Jenkins to #2 behind Sean Smith. Talk about a "big corner" - Smith is listed at 6-3, 214. Of course, Smith is writing a daily diary blog for the site, so maybe that helps his ranking. I'd love to see them take a corner - agree it would be even better if they could somehow trade down and still get one.
April 20, 2009 at 08:43 pm
I think Ohio St players, in general, are vastly over rated....This guy may fit in a Tampa 2 defense somewhere, but those guys are never #1 round pix. Reasonable people can disagree. I don't want a safe pick, i want a difference maker. One that allows our defense to take a step forward from day one, not protect in case of injury or fall off. We don't need corners or safeties or Offensive tackles. We need talented DEs, NTs, and Rush Linebackers....that's pretty much it.
Lets move it people!!!!!
April 20, 2009 at 09:29 pm
You find it hard to believe? So I'm a liar too? I guess you're the only one who can watch players on TV and formulate an opinion. Silly me. The guy is aggressive for sure, but I didn't see anything in cover skills that made me jump up and down. Maybe he's a better safety at some point, but I don't see impact from him in year one at #9. And I think we recently had the conversation about #9 being an impact player in 2009.
Bottom line - if you think I'm nuts that's fine. You wouldn't be the first to say that. Just don't tell me I'm getting my opinion from somewhere else when I can think perfectly fine on my own. Like I said, if I'm impressed by a media source then I'll cite it
April 21, 2009 at 10:41 am
What's the major difference between Jenkins and Macho Harris from VT?....other than, of course, Harris can be had at least a round later.
PackerAaron
April 21, 2009 at 11:02 am
Andrew - why so hot under the collar? I'm re-reading my comments and I'm not quite sure what I've done to set you off. Apologies if I've crossed a line that I was unaware of...
April 21, 2009 at 11:22 am
You said my opinion was coming from the media. Disagreeing is fine. Suggesting I can't come to my own conclusions is not.
Then when I told you I saw 3 games you said it was "hard to believe we were looking at the same player." I took that to mean you didn't believe I saw 3 games.
Case in point - I've been railing against Knowshon Moreno. That doesn't come from the media. They love him. I've seen him play for 2 years and I have major concerns about his durability. Same with Jenkins. One of my good friends is an OSU homer so I saw a few games at his house. Maybe he'll be good in zone coverage but I have serious concerns at the next level in man to man. Plus, I think his aggressiveness gets him in trouble sometimes. Colt McCoy took off late in the bowl game and Jenkins had him stone dead, but McCoy spun and left Jenkins without a jockstrap. That's Colt McCoy mind you.
It's all good tho. It's not like I'm losing sleep over it or anything
PackerAaron
April 21, 2009 at 11:40 am
I didn't say your opinion was 'coming from' the media. I said it was too dependent on it. You say differently. Fine. I apologize unreservedly.
As for Jenkins - yes, his aggressiveness gets him in trouble. That's why you have coaches. How he plays in college is not how he'll play in the pros - the whole thing is about projection, not plugging in their college highlights into an NFL game. I expect, as do NFL teams, for these prospects to grow and improve. I think Jenkins will be a keeper. You don't. Cool.
April 21, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Peace brother. Like I said, I'm not losing sleep over it. And I do think Jenkins "could" be very good, just not worth the #9 pick. I would like a big contributor this year and I just don't think he is it. It's a fair point tho on the coaching aspect. If we take him and he contributes in a big way, I'll be the first one to pay homage and offer multiple mea culpas. :)