I have never have been a big fan of Gutey. Packers need to draft better, especially defensive play makers. The Lions are what hey are because their GM made some great drafts and trades. Stafford to the Rams for a boat load of draft picks and Goff is what started the Lions on there way to better days. The Lions beat the Packers last night with 2nd and 3rd string players... The Lions are deep with talent and I expect them to win a super bowl this season.

The game plan against the Packers is simple, run or throw the ball over the middle of the field. LB's and CB's have trouble covering the middle of the field. Its been that way since week 1. The Lions were playing with a number of back up players last night. Again when the Packers play a physical aggressive team they lose.

It's been said that football is a game of inches. Last night was a measurement game for the Packers. They came up short but now every player, coach and member of the front office can see just how short and what more they need to do for the rest of this year and, looking even beyond, for next season to get that lacking distance between them and a Super Bowl covered.

The season isn't over and everything is still in front of this young team. For all practical intents nd purposes they were taken out of division title probabilities earlier in the season with the home losses to the Lions and Vikings. They're still a virtual lead pipe cinch for the Wild Card.

If Detroit and Philadelphia are the top two in the NFC the Pack has played them tough and lost to one by 5 down in Brazil and the other by 3 at their den. The Packers are probably the team neither the Lions or Eagles would prefer to face in the playoffs. It's not always the team that has the great, dominating regular season that wins or even reaches the Super Bowl. If that was true the Baltimore Ravens should've been last year's Super Bowl Champion.

The focus now is which of the 3 Wild Card berths the Packers would most benefit with as far as getting another first round win and at least a crack at the divisional. Last year's 7th "seed" will probably not be as profitable this time around. There's no fraud like Dallas to be exposed this year. The position would mean likely going to Philly or Detroit off the bat.

But win the first or second of the 3 Wild Cards and they'd get the winners of the West or South. And there's no match up there that they couldn't win. The final month of the season has a lot of strategic significance for the Packers and a lot of figuring the measures they'll need to make it in "the tournament."

The Lions game showed Packer fans, coaches and the Front Office what the truth is.
The analysis has already been explained.
There have been a number of poor 1st/2nd round Draft picks which should have been providing a good foundation from which to build but none of them work out- Darnell Savage, AJ Dillon,
Rashan Gary, Jaire Alexander, LVN, Walker, Wyatt. This is causing a need to continually build up the Defense and is equivalent to wasting millions of dollars. Player regression after big contracts is a problem too.
I would most of the responsibility on Gute, not MLF/Hafley.

Hafley doesn't have adequate players. Maybe Aaron Glenn/Ben Johnson could squeeze out some better play from
the Quays, LVN, MacDuffie, Slaton,Myers, Rhyan, Stokes, Nixon et al but I doubt it.Hafley really has no CB's, weak LB's, weak pass rush

I watched last nights game, and refs determined that GreenBay would not be able to over come the Lions, lions fans and shitty officiating. If the game had been reffed fairly.. The pack would have won.. Here you have a fan owned team. decades after decades out performing billionaire teams..Is there another NFL team that is fan owned?
Sheila Ford Hamp (née Sheila Firestone Ford; born October 31, 1951) [1] is an American businesswoman and football executive. A descendant of both the Ford and Firestone families, she is the principal owner and chairwoman of the Detroit Lions of the National Football League (NFL). Imagine billionaire decending from both Ford and Firestone families. Who owns the Lions.....I have feeling that all the billionaires grit their teeth when they see.... Green bay, Wi home of the Packers proclaim TITLETOWN....

It's evident the Packers aren't a finished product yet. That shouldn't surprise anyone who's been paying any attention. They're not on top of the mountain at this point. Do I think they can play with anybody? Yeah, I do. Do I think there's a lot of work for improvements that can be put in? Yeah, I do.

My biggest takeaway from this loss is that an awful lot of Packers fans haven't been paying attention to the fact that Detroit is the strongest team in the NFL. Everyone wants to discount them- they've peaked, their time is up, they shit the bed in 2023 and now they're in decline, The Bears (and a number of other teams) had a chance to beat them, yadda yadda yadda.

It's all nothing more than denial. That team is the most dominant team in football. Point differential doesn't lie. If this Packers team played any other team with the talent and record of the Lions last night- the exact same team with a different name- anyone but the -Detroit Lions-... Packers fans would be looking at going the distance down to the wire as a sign they can play against anybody. But, it's the Lions, the mo-town kittens, the long-time disgraces of the NFC North. So everybody is freaking the f*ck out about this loss.

There's PLENTY of legitimate critiques to go around for this Packers loss, and the general state of the Packers. They aren't a finished product. They do have a lot of room for improvement. There are holes in the roster.
But this loss has revealed a lot more about the head space of Packers fans than it has revealed to me about the Packers or the Lions.

Suck it up, buttercups. Horribly disappointing loss. I felt it on the Packers drive to take the lead at about 6-7 minutes left on the clock. Just felt like we were going to score but leave only enough time on the clock for Detroit to get back into the game and leave nothing for the Packers. Lost opportunity. The bottom line is yes, Detroit is a better team than the Packers. I don't understand how anybody could be surprised by that heading into this game. And yet, the Packers, after a horribly slow start, still managed to make Detroit play from wire to wire to get their win.

People around herw just going crazy, talking about benching and firing this guy and that. You people are out of your god damned minds.

Lick the wounds. Watch the tape. Take the loss personal and get better. Like it or not, this is your 2024 Green Bay Packers, and they just had a chance to win vs. the most dominant team in the league after playing a flawed game.

Go Pack Go.

Here's one big problemo with the packs org that hurts the team. And ultimately the fans too.
We struggled with a crap kicker. When Gutt or whomever finally made the decisions it was what 4 weeks coming.
Our nemesis, who still may take the division, the Vikes, kicker got hurt and they immediately found and brought a replacement in and he is very good.
The Packers are slow to make decisions and I think it has to do with money. The Vikes fill holes quickly and plan for what ifs. They now have a very experienced backup QB so if the current guy gets hurt they don't lose a beat. All it took was a willingness to spend the money. They are always in a win now mode never development mode. Thus our magmt has a lot to do with the depth or lack of on this team..

They’re not there yet. Every team they have lost to this year has a better defense, and often a more consistent offense. The Packers don’t scare anyone.
They need corners and linebackers and a pass rush. Mosby, and Cox may develop but we’re stuck with the underperforming Gary, fading Kenny Clark and slow developing Van Ness.
Hopefully we will be rid of Alexander and Stokes in 25. How different would this team look with Rasul Douglass? Buffalo is laughing all the way to the playoffs.
With some good moves, and a little luck they could be a top 4 team next year. Right now they are near the top 8 in football. They can’t even stop Minnesota and Detroit from winning at Lambeau for two years now.

Is not the packers the youngest team? I keep remembering the refs and how they ignored Detroit conduct through much of the game. Lafleur was pissed... I was really wondering why i bother watching pro sports. Which has become more and like roman collesium times...

Ben Johnson, the much sought-after Detroit OC said he looks for 2 things in a team:

1. Organizational alignment-particularly betw GM and HC
2. Commitment to recognizing problems and fixing immediately.

Green Bay drags their collective feet when it comes to recognizing and fixing problems. Their first inclination is to deny and they deny for a very long time (underperforming players, coaches), until fans are screaming for a change
Then, there is a glimmer of acknowledgement but no change --'We believe in this player...' Narveson is the latest example...LVN and Walker are recent examples as well.
Examples of denial and foot-dragging-Barry, Butkus, Savage, LVN, Walker, Wyatt, Gary, Alexander, Stokes--and others, DeGuara, Lowry, Campbell, Royce Newman; remember how long it took to deal w/A. Carlson, Amari Rodgers & Narveson? Fans had to get loud and call it to the attention of the Packer 'brain trust' that the aforementioned players were dragging the team.

Winning teams don't carry dead-wood. They recognize it and fix it or remove it and learn not to make the same mistakes.

Alexander is Bakhtiari 2.0