Hello Wisconsin: Questions to Ponder During This Early Bye Week
How does one assess this team after the last two weeks?
By TimBackes

Crazy what a difference two weeks make.
Coming out of the Washington game, I was certain the Packers were on a Super Bowl trajectory. They played outstanding defense and thoroughly dominated a pair of would-be contenders. They looked like the league’s best team.
Two weeks later, and the team is heading into the bye week with a lot of questions.
Here are some of the ones that are sticking in my brain at the moment:
How good is this defense, really?
It’s important not to overreact after a single game, of course, but it’s hard not to wonder whether the Packers’ abysmal defensive performance against Dallas was a one-week blip or a sign that perhaps there are far more issues than we had seen or expected in the Packers’ first three games.
The pass rush simply did not get home, for starters. This was especially troubling when you consider the state of the Cowboys’ offensive line. The pass rush had caused havoc over the course of the first three weeks, and the moment it disappeared, the defense got shredded. The depth in the secondary was exposed; Keisean Nixon and Nate Hobbs had difficult games, and Xavier McKinney looked nothing like his all pro self. Meanwhile, Edgerrin Cooper had his worst game as a professional at linebacker.
I refuse to believe that a single player (Devonte Wyatt) can make that big of a difference in the unit’s ability to execute. But can the defense really be that awful when the pass rush doesn’t show up?
More data is necessary. At this point, I’m inclined to believe (or at least am hoping) that this was an aberration. It’s important to remember that Dallas gave Philly all it could handle. But it’s hard not to be a little concerned.
What is going on with Matt LaFleur?
I am far from calling for LaFleur’s job; doing so before a team has even played October football is generally a mark of foolishness. That being said, this is year seven for LaFleur, and many of the same issues in losses or disappointing performances continue to pop up over and over again.
The biggest issue is that LaFleur seems to completely lack a killer instinct. We saw it against the Browns a week and a half ago, and it was even more on display against Dallas.
LaFleur opted to punt the ball in plus territory TWICE; an absolutely cowardly move when your offense is playing as well as it was and when the defense was still not in second-half collapse form. During overtime, it felt as though LaFleur was playing for a tie rather than for a win, and it very nearly resulted in a loss (though Jordan Love does, of course, share some blame for the end-of-game time management).
I wrote in the preseason that it has been very rare that a coach takes more than seven years to win a Super Bowl with a team, if they are to ever win a Super Bowl with that team. I still believe Matt LaFleur can coach this Packer team to a championship. But I also do not really think it’s outrageous for a person to believe he’s not the guy, either.
I’ll wait until later in the season before I make any grand statements one way or the other.
At what point do you put the game in Jordan Love’s hands?
I know the Packers had a ton of success running the football last year. But it just hasn’t been there so far this year, in large part due to the struggles of the team’s offensive line with all the injuries that have occurred. I understand wanting to establish the run, but you can’t keep doing so at the expense of offensive momentum.
Jordan Love played one of the finest games of his career on Sunday. He was sharp all evening long, was unflappable in the face of pressure, and made clutch play after clutch play. Yes, as I already stated, he played a part in bungling the final 20 seconds of the game, but it was clear that the offense was at its best when it was flowing through him on Sunday evening.
Instead of trying to use Josh Jacobs as a battering ram behind a bad offensive line, take the lid off this passing offense and let’s see what they can really do.
Wisconsin Beer of the Week

Every now and then, I will purchase a beer simply for the design of the can. I know, I know, you can’t judge a book by its cover… and yet I absolutely do that with beer. And sometimes with books, too.
Anyway, I was at Woodman’s the other day grabbing some fall beers (give me all the Marzens, Oktoberfests, pumpkin beers, and schwarzbiers) and came across this one from Gathering Place, the same brewery that makes the CheeseheadTV Carry the G beer. This was one that was brewed specially for Doors Open Milwaukee, an event that happens every fall where some of the historically significant buildings around town (or maybe just some prominent businesses) open their doors to the public, even ones that might not normally be open. It’s always a fun event and a great way to get inside some Milwaukee institutions you might not typically have the opportunity to experience.
The beer is Doors Open Milwaukee Cream Ale, and as you can see, the can design is a nice image of Milwaukee’s downtown. Being a lover of all things Milwaukee, I couldn’t help but snag it.
The beer is what you expect out of a cream ale–mild and crushable–and was a refreshing addition to my Survivor watching experience (yes, I’m one of the people who still watches Survivor, all 49 seasons).
Like I said, I picked it up at Woodman’s, and I’m sure you could find it at the Gathering Place brewery itself. I’m unsure what their distribution is like outside of Milwaukee beyond the popular Carry the G beer, but it’s worth a look at your own local liquor store to see if they’ve got it. Otherwise, be sure to grab a pack of Carry the G whenever you see it next!
Positive signs in the passing game
I previously alluded to some good things that we’re seeing out of the Packers’ passing game. A lot of this is due to Jordan Love playing some very high-quality football, but it’s also worth pointing out some pass catchers who are showing some really good things in the first month of the season.
Of course, we’ve talked a lot about Tucker Kraft. It’s been a very, very long time since the Packers had a player at the tight end position who was as well-rounded and talented as him. This is a guy the team is going to want to keep around for a long time.
But there’s a lot of good stuff happening at wide receiver as well.
Romeo Doubs has had a strong start to the season, highlighted by his three-touchdown performance in Dallas. Right now he is the team’s best and most reliable wide receiver, and seems to be the guy Jordan Love looks to in the clutch. He has sure hands and gets open. He’s in a contract year and has seemed to get better each year of his career. The Packers should try to bring him back–though I understand it’s going to be tough to keep this entire corps intact.
Matthew Golden is coming on nicely and is capitalizing on the opportunities he’s been given. Despite running a wrong route, he came down a with a big-time deep reception on Sunday night, and showed some sure hands in a crucial fourth down conversion late in the game. He’s getting some nice looks in the running game as well on some gadget plays.
I also want to point out what we’re seeing from Dontayvion Wicks. While he doesn’t have a super impressive stat sheet, he looks to have resolved his drop issues from a year ago while holding on to his biggest strength: his route running and ability to get open. He’s been rated very highly by PFF this season for that reason specifically. He caught a lot of flak last year for his hands, but he’s gotten back to showing the kind of value that he displayed as a rookie. I hope he keeps getting opportunities.
Overall, this feels like a unit that has seen some clear improvement from a year ago, and it’s back to feeling like an area of strength for this team. And that was much, much needed.
A quick word on the Badgers
Unfortunately, since having children I have not been able to follow my Wisconsin Badgers (I’m a member of the class of 2010) nearly as much as I used to. These days, though, that might not be such a bad thing.
It’s looking bad in Madison. If you’re not a college football person you might not realize just how bad it is. The Badgers have been one of the more consistent programs in college football for nearly 30 years, until now.
The NIL revolution in college football changed everything, and not for the better. While I’ve always been in favor of athletes being able to capitalize off their image, there’s no denying that the current system has absolutely demolished programs, and that schools like Wisconsin simply have no hope of keeping pace.
Paul Chryst couldn’t attract big names to the school in recruiting, so athletic director Chris Macintosh took a swing on the up-and-coming Luke Fickell from Cincinnati. But now the Badgers are worse than they’ve been since before I had any football consciousness, and this is looking like a program that’s back to what it was for most of the 70s and 80s… which was simply not a good time for any sort of football in Wisconsin.
Student sections are chanting for Fickell to be fired, and attendance is increasingly sparse. Alumni are openly blasting Fickell and bemoaning the state of the program. Fans aren’t having any of it, either.
The question then becomes whether Macintosh is really willing to admit he made a mistake and move on. There are plenty of people who believe that Macintosh himself may also be on the hot seat, and if the collapse of this once-respectable football program continues without him taking any action, he may well be.
Even though I can’t watch as closely as I once did, it’s still hard to see. I knew a lot of success at UW in my time as a student and shortly after, and it’s looking like this team could be a bottom feeder for a while.
They need a reset badly, but also, who knows how much they’re capable of doing under the current NIL rules. A bad situation all around.
Around the NFC North
As always, it’s time to go around the NFC North.
- The CHICAGO BEARS have won a couple games in a row and suddenly the fanbase swagger is back. Maybe these Bears ARE different? After all, can you imagine a Matt Eberflus-coached team coming back from the kind of thrashing they took at the hands of the Lions a few weeks ago? Now, they still have a lot to prove, but they could end up being a thorn in the side of some of the other NFC North teams if they continue along this trajectory.
- The DETROIT LIONS have to be feeling good about where they’re at right now. That week one humiliation at the hands of the Packers is getting farther and farther in the rearview mirror, which lends credence once again to the idea that you can never really place too much emphasis on what happens in the first week of the regular season. The passing game in particular seems to be coming alive, and my fantasy team thanks Amon-Ra St. Brown for his contributions.
- The MINNESOTA VIKINGS got a blast from the past on Sunday when they were defeated by Aaron Rodgers, just in a different uniform. Once again the primary issues with this team seem to be quarterback play, and that’s tough to overcome with a backup and with a second-year question mark who always felt overdrafted. The Vikings did make a valiant comeback effort, but ultimately came up short in Ireland, and will continue to oscillate this year between looking like a contender and looking like a nobody due to that vacuum at quarterback.
Mr. Backes’s “This or That”
Every day I put a different “this or that” poll up on my whiteboard and have students leave tallies throughout the day. I then compile this information and post it here for laughs.
Here’s what we’ve seen over the last week:
- Apples defeated bananas
- Fall defeated spring
- October defeated September
- Pepperoni defeated sausage
- Strawberry flavor defeated grape flavor
Week 5 NFL Picks
No Packer game this week, but I’ll still be trying to get in some good football viewing! Here are my picks for the upcoming slate of NFL games.
RAMS over 49ers
BROWNS over Vikings
COWBOYS over Jets
GIANTS over Saints
RAIDERS over Colts
PANTHERS over Dolphins
EAGLES over Broncos
RAVENS over Texans
CARDINALS over Titans
BUCS over Seahawks
LIONS over Bengals
CHARGERS over Commanders
BILLS over Patriots
CHIEFS over Jaguars
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Tim Backes is a lifelong Packer fan and a contributor to CheeseheadTV. Follow him on Twitter @timbackes for his Packer takes, random musings and Untappd beer check-ins.
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Comments (34)
T7Steve
October 02, 2025 at 06:48 am
"Important to remember that Dallas gave Philly all it could handle. But it’s hard not to be a little concerned."
The real difference is a 3-point swing on special teams. The offense and defense are going to have their ups and downs but when you can never get a play, or worse, get torched on special teams consistently it hard to become a contender.
Bearmeat
October 02, 2025 at 07:13 am
Tim,
I’ve been a OG supporter of Gute, MLF and Love from day one. I knew that 12 was too selfish by 2015 to ever finish the job in January, and it was in our best interest to move on asap. (We should have done it after 2021. Fight me. lol).
That said, I have the same concerns you do about MLF. It’s year 7. Year 3 with Love starting. These rookie moments CANT be happening now and between them, and the chronically bad special teams, we’ve spoiled what should have been a 4-0 start.
I am with you. They’ve shown dominance. And incompetence. This is the season for MLF to show it. If these issues are around in January. He’s got to go.
jvole
October 02, 2025 at 07:40 am
I differ from many among the commenters in that I think La Fleur is a very good OC and I think that has gotten him many winning seasons. I think he is a fair (rather than good) head coach because he repeats mistakes and has tendencies, as pointed out in this article, that cost him big games against good teams. IDK, there are some massive coaching mistakes across the league but also some real stars. I'm not sure I would want to roll the dice and get a coach who really stinks. But if La Fleur wants to make the next step, he needs to do some serious self reflection.
LambeauPlain
October 02, 2025 at 07:49 am
4 games in and the "won/loss" of the 3 units:
Defense: 3-1
Offense: 3-1
Special teams: 2-2
In the last two games: When the O faltered, the D was there. When the D faltered, the O was there. Winnable games to be had, where EVERY POINT was needed...and the consistently poor STs took points off the board with poor execution.
LaFleur had two opportunities to go to a Super Bowl in his first two seasons as OC/HC. In 2019, the defense got shredded as the Niners ground pounded Pettine's season long pathetic run D. No complementary football, no Lombardi.
The next year, Menninga's season long pathetic STs were key in losing the NFCCG game with execution failures...a constant in Green Bay under both McCarthy and LaFleur. No complementary football, no Lombardi.
LaFleur is, and will be far, far more invested in the O while being hired leader of the entire team. While he is ultimately "kind of" held accountable for the other two units, in his own mind, it really is not his concern.
4 games in: No complementary football, 2-1-1.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 08:02 am
Dallas game no pass rush which cost us the game.
No blitz all night I don’t think.
We put up 37. Should have won by 20
Then put up 3 more
Defense had a bad game
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 08:05 am
What I don’t understand is with 1:06 left how many plays we got off.
You S a coach need to know with 1:00 left I can get these amount of plays off and what plays I’m using
Go to stuff..
NFLfan
October 02, 2025 at 08:17 am
Unfortunately or fortunately, we have a 7 year sample size. As several other posters have mentioned, if I were Ed Policy I would be spending all of my time, seeking out candidates for a new GM. Let him hire his own people. Green Bay needs to return to what other successful teams do. Start with a successful outside GM candidate who comes highly recommended, a history of good relationships and holding players and coaches accountable.
Most new 'Presidents' /GMs are expected to make big moves.
Coldworld
October 02, 2025 at 09:29 am
We don’t have a true GM. Gute’s never hired his own people. He doesn’t have responsibility for major elements of a traditional GM (that’s Russ Ball), he’s essentially a chief of scouting and roster builder.
This group was assembled by Mark Murphy. He chose LaFleur, he promoted Gute and split the GM role between Gute, Russ Ball and himself by having the HC and each of those report to him not the GM as it had been during TTs time as GM.
So I agree to the extent that it’s time to restore football accountability in a football guy and with clarity as to who makes the call. Whether Gute should be replaced or not I’m less clear. Certainly not for reasons of poor coaching choices or performance by LaFleur as he’s had no control of them.
If the roster looks fundamentally flawed looking back in January, then that is on him. At this point I’m not seeing that as the reason we failed to win the last two games. Are you?
NFLfan
October 02, 2025 at 09:46 am
I don't trust Gute enough with these big decisions. My hope is Ed Policy taps into the Policy lineage and has some really deep conversations with 4-5 well-respected NFL execs/coaches.
crayzpackfan
October 02, 2025 at 10:45 am
Landing a quality GM will be hard with them knowing they have to sit out during round one for the next two years. Sort of like coaches turning down jobs with teams who currently are fielding a bad QB. Then again, they may see it as challenge they can't refuse.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 08:51 am
I think they should look at Mason Miller lions practice squad. He’s from NDSU and they have good linemen playing in the NFL.
Coldworld
October 02, 2025 at 09:34 am
An older version of Brant Banks, whom we just let escape via waivers? He may add some utility as a G I suppose, but he’s a developmental T. Whom would you cut to put him on the roster?
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:02 am
He’s better than Banks we let go
I’m thinking
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:29 am
Who Aaron banks. Cut him and right the check out.
Bring someone in who’s hungry.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 09:45 am
Team OLi Grade: 53.2
C Elgton Jenkins: 77.3 (77th overall, 21st position)
G Sean Rhyan: 71.8 (114th overall, 46th position)
T Rasheed Walker: 69.3 (125th overall, 42nd position)
T Darian Kinnard: 67.3 (138th overall, 53rd position)
G Jordan Morgan: 66.1 (142nd overall, 55th position)
O line ranks 31st
Bitternotsour
October 02, 2025 at 09:58 am
They just put up 40 on the Cowboys, they stomped the Lions asses, their only loss because of a blocked field goal, with apparently the worst O-line ever. How does that work exactly? Perhaps PFF ratings are full of shit.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:17 am
When we need to run the ball to end Agamemnon would be nice vs punting with 90 seconds left to turn it over to special teams ..
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:33 am
Goes to show you how good Mr. Tom is.
What ever you do don’t look at Josh Meyers PFf Ranking 16th overall grade.
His Dad passed away last year that’s tuff to deal with …should have kept him.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:38 am
And save banks money to pay some guys already here vs a guy who shows up not even in the program for years. At over 1 million plus a game Banks should be blowing holes open for Jacob’s.the rest of the year.
I’m glad last week Kenny was playing against him would have taken him to school again.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 09:49 am
The Green Bay Packers currently have a Team OLi grade of 53.2 (F), which is only slightly better than Cincinnati’s league-worst unit (52.9). Green Bay is allowing pressure on 41.0% of dropbacks, which is seventh-worst in the NFL. Green Bay’s true dropback percentage is even worse, as if you remove play action and screens from the equation, they allow pressure on 46.4% of these plays (third-worst in the NFL).
Also, Green Bay is averaging just 3.7 yards per rush, which is tied for the eighth-worst mark in the NFL, despite having a talented running back in Josh Jacobs. The line isn’t giving Jacobs much to work with, as the Packers average .46 yards before contact (second-worst in the NFL).
Lphill
October 02, 2025 at 10:01 am
would any other teams in this position have already made a change in special teams coach? probably
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:21 am
Rich is good …just need right people on the o line to block for 1.5 seconds
Can we find some one that can do that in the next 10 days
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:23 am
Actually I think he would be a good head coach.
He would get offensive coordinator to call plays .
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:19 am
We didn’t ring in Jacob’s to play ring around the rosey We brought him in to get a seal here and a seal here and run the ball in the alley.
J-Rome
October 02, 2025 at 10:23 am
For the pass rush, Dallas was getting the ball out quick. When they didn't there was some pressure. However, on at least 3 occasions Dak was getting hit as he threw and completed the pass anyway. He was playing out of his gourd. I thought Hafley was going to have a press man defense which would help throw the timing off the quick game, but, I think he knows our corners don't have the recovery speed if they lose at the line. Either that, or this is more Matt LaFleur influence and playing not to lose. I think thats a bigger concern. If you have confidence in your offense, you let them win in OT and don't worry about running the clock. The whole team seemed to not really believe in itself in this game and the coach called it like he didn't believe in them either.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:26 am
Matt wanted to win with offensive vs defense.
The bears ran gadget plays and we wasted plays on that.
Teams don’t fall for that back to back weeks.
We ran 4 or 5 gadget plays. A waste of time and yards.
J-Rome
October 02, 2025 at 01:41 pm
Thats my point. If you want to win with offense, your defense, specifically Parsons, gave you a chance to win the game in OT with your offense. If you believe in your guys let them go out and win the dang thing.
LeotisHarris
October 02, 2025 at 10:24 am
Oh, the Wisconsin Badgers. Take a look at the remaining schedule. Do you see a win in any of those athletic contests? Maybe, if you squint, they can sneak past Iowa. I think they run the table with Ls, and TEAM down vests will be on clearance in Madison. College football is toast. Soon there will be two conferences (ESPN and the SEC), meaningful regional rivalries will be no more, and we'll mark the time between betting scandals. Burn it all down.
I don't see any kneejerk reactions on LaFleur. It would be foolish if we were seeing his consternation and befuddlement for the first time and calling for change in October. This is all too familiar. Matt's hitting himself in the head in the same spot with the same hammer. We need to help him stop.
LambeauPlain
October 02, 2025 at 10:58 am
Badger HC Luke is a "fickle" man.
I had concerns during Fickel's first season and his communication skills. I put it down to being a poor public speaker but believed he was far more effective selling mission, goals, expectations, strategies to his coaches and players.
McIntosh surely did his due diligence on his communication skills before hiring him for $millions and a contract to 2032, right? Nope. McIntosh was sold on the sizzle, not the steak.
Fickell is a very poor communicator. He's a scattershot communicator. A mind pop up word salad maker. After the Maryland debacle he opined on Leadership:
“When you’ve got a group of leadership, it can be a good thing, but when you don’t have a leader or the leader, it can be a little bit more difficult. I know that’s what I am and I’m supposed to be, and I need to be, but from within, it makes it difficult."
What?
LeotisHarris
October 02, 2025 at 02:53 pm
Oof, "a group of leadership"? That's a grim quote.
stockholder
October 02, 2025 at 10:34 am
Stop the panic.
The team's overall inconsistencies,
have more to do with injuries,
then MLF's clock management.
Point- #1
The Packers lead the league with 10 false start penalties
and have nine offensive holding calls through four weeks.
Point-
The special teams are a mixed bag.
Nixon made all pro, returning kicks.
Reed is out and we have Golden learning.
Add 2 crucial no blocks.
New rules or old coach thinking?
Point- Defense
Missing TJ Slayton and Kenny Clark.
Would hurt any team in the middle.
But when the defense was designed
for more takeaways.
Forget the passive thinking!
Hatley’s physical play in the secondary; turned
conservative, and was more of a fundamental-based
Philosophy. The QB no longer was confused.
Snap the ball
October 02, 2025 at 10:41 am
Stop the panic
We just played two teams should have blown out
When I’m buying a ticket for a playoff game on the road vs home game for once I will be thinking of these two games.
No more room for error
Need home playoff games.
Packerpasty
October 02, 2025 at 10:40 am
Ahhh, finally more and more saying what I've been saying about MLF for a few years now...now im not the only "fool".....welcome aboard the train....soon everyone will see he's not the guy to lead...he's had some amazing talent, hasn't done enough with it...
Since'61
October 02, 2025 at 10:53 am
My assessment of this team after 4 weeks is that the offense has good/excellent skill players but the OL is the primary issue holding the offense back with penalties, injuries and poor execution.
The defense has played excellently overall except for the secondary being exposed by the Cowboys. Upcoming opponents will take the same approach as Dallas by double teaming Parsons and getting quick passes out to their receivers unless the Packers can generate a pass rush while Parsons is being double teamed.
STs have been bad except for Mc Manus sadly there remains plenty of work needed to improve the Packers STs.
Coaching needs to improve their in game decision making and preparation for situational footballl. Thanks, Since '61