Hello Wisconsin: Extended Break Offers Time to Reflect
Taking stock of where the Packers are after two weeks.
By TimBackes

The Packers enjoyed the first of their two mini byes this week. The time offers some extra opportunity for rest and recuperation, but also some reflection, especially in the wake of everything else that transpired over week two in the NFL.
After two weeks, there is no other team in the NFL that has been as impressive as the Green Bay Packers. Yes, the Philadelphia Eagles remain the defending champs and thus the team to beat in the NFC–but they had close calls against a mediocre Dallas team and against a Chiefs team that many expect to no longer be the class of the AFC.
The Packers physically dominated a previously physically dominant Lions team, and then did it to a Commanders team that was in the NFC Championship a season ago and was a trendy Super Bowl pick in the preseason.
Watching the Lions rack up 52 against the Bears was hilarious, of course, but it was also a reminder of the significance of what the Packers did in week one. Either the Packers are so good that they fully shut down a dominant Lions offense, or the Lions were so tilted by their first game against the Packers that they took all their anger out on the Bears.
Either way, the Packers are now in their heads rather than the other way around, as it’s been for the last several years.
And consider this: not since 1995 have the Packers opened their season by holding consecutive opponents to fewer than 250 yards of total offense.
It’s been a very long time since we’ve seen a Packer team open with this degree of dominance. While the 2011 season saw the team reel off a ton of consecutive victories, that defense was entirely hapless and was shredded weekly by opposing offenses. This is the most well-rounded team the Packers have had to start a season since the mid-90s.
So the question becomes, of course, will they be able to maintain? There are several factors that go into this. Health, obviously. Every team’s fate is determined in part by luck, and that includes luck with injuries. But it’s also coaching. You have to make sure the players are still pushed and driven to achieve the same level of excellence every single week. And that can be easier said than done, even when working with professionals.
But if that’s already this team’s biggest (or one of its biggest) problem or question mark after two weeks (can they keep being this great?!) then I’d say they’re in a good spot.
Wisconsin Beer of the Week

Young Blood Brewing Company has made its name throughout Wisconsin in recent years for a lot of its sours and IPAs, but it has some pretty solid “traditional” beers as well. The Madison-based brewery is well worth a visit, by the way, if you ever find yourself in the capital. It’s just off of the capitol square!
This particular beer is R and J’s Rowdy Raccoon, a rye ale. Here’s how they describe what they refer to as a red rye lager:
“The Raccoon… the cutest little mischievous bandit that nature has to offer. These little guys are incredibly smart, playful, affectionate, and more food-motivated than a slightly overweight beagle. Now imagine having one or two as pets, launching sneak attacks on you as you enter the room, and helping themselves to a little snack whenever they feel like. That would be WILD!’
Okay, so… that doesn’t tell you much about the beer. But it’s basically what you’d expect from a red rye ale; the maltiness of an amber with just a slight bit of bitterness to make the flavor profile a little more complex. At 5.2 percent ABV, this one’s an easy drinker and one that is quite versatile for all situations and weathers. I paired it with a burger and fries and felt very satisfied with my decision.
This is one that should be available at most places in Wisconsin, but especially around Madison or Milwaukee. Young Blood’s distribution is starting to branch out a bit, so even in farther north areas of the state it is likely you’ll find their stuff.
What exactly ARE the weaknesses?
We’ve spent a lot of time praising the Packers for their performances in their first two weeks, and rightly so. But of course, this is a team with flaws like any other. So what are those flaws (or potential flaws) after two weeks?
- Special teams… still: It still doesn’t appear that things have gotten any smoother on special teams outside of punting. The coverage has been kind of all over the place, and there have already been several penalties. We need a bit more data to make any claims about the field goal kicking, but Brandon McManus did miss a 48-yard kick that has become almost a routine chip shot for many kickers around the league. The Packers extended Rich Bisaccia, who continues to be the league’s highest paid special teams coordinator, but it still doesn’t appear that much of his unit is to the caliber of the league’s average.
- Run blocking: Now, this could simply be a virtue of who the Packers have played the first couple weeks, but it hasn’t been particularly smooth going for Josh Jacobs. The Packers’ offensive line could get better at giving the man some room to run.
- Defending the middle: We’re really picking nits here, because the Packers have, again, allowed fewer than 500 total yards over the first two weeks of the season. But the few times they’ve shown any vulnerability in pass defense, it’s been over the middle of the field to tight ends. Of course, this has tended to come after the Packers have already had the game well under control. But if we’re seeing any kind of weakness on the defensive side, this is the closest thing to it.
Players benefiting from Micah Parsons
There have already been so many noticeable ways in which the Micah Parsons trade has changed the game completely for the Packers. There are multiple players on the defensive side of the ball who have particularly benefited from his addition.
These include:
- Keisean Nixon: Perhaps the player benefiting the most, honestly. Nixon registered five pass breakups on Thursday night after registering seven in all of 2024. That’s… insane, frankly. Nixon has never looked more confident playing in the secondary even after being forced into something of a #1 role. Amazing what a pass rush can do for a secondary that has seen some historical struggles. No pass rush last year, tougher job for the corners. This year, they’re able to sit on routes and play a little riskier, and it’s paying off.
- Lukas Van Ness: Van Ness has the look of a player who is really figuring it out in his third year. He’s been regularly affecting the quarterback and has demonstrated an ability to keep contain and force the passer back up into the pocket. It’s been huge for him.
- Quay Walker: Edgerrin Cooper has benefited as well, but he was already showing signs of stardom. Walker, though, was a former first round pick who was looking as though he might not get another contract. Already, he looks like a different player. He’s playing much faster and more downhill, and with Parsons’ addition and Cooper’s rise, he’s not being asked to shoulder as much of the responsibility on the defense.
On the Walker note, it’s also worth noting just how much a lot of the defensive improvement is clearly a result of Jeff Hafley as well. This was a defense loaded with former first-round picks, but Joe Barry could never put it together; in fact, the defense looked completely lost for most of his tenure. Hafley is finding ways to put all of these talented players with high draft stocks in position to succeed. All of Walker, Van Ness, and Devonte Wyatt are playing the best football of their careers to start this season. Rashan Gary has also been playing better as part of the rotation, and Parsons, of course, is a former first round pick himself.
Amazing how much of a difference coaching makes in getting players to meet their potential. It’s another one of those times where you have to wonder how some famous busts might have turned out if they’d ended up in better situations with better coaches.
Around the NFC North
As always, it’s time to go around the NFC North.
- The CHICAGO BEARS keep winning that offseason championship, and yet they keep getting farther and farther away from actually having completed a rebuild. A full dismantling at the hands of the Detroit Lions revealed that this team has way more holes than an offensive guru like Ben Johnson can fix in a single season, and also sheds significantly more doubt on Ryan Poles as general manager (why did they re-sign him, again?). This might get worse before it gets better.
- The DETROIT LIONS were certainly feeling a bit of the sting from being embarrassed in Green Bay on opening weekend. Either that, or the Bears are just really, really bad (which, to be fair, is always a possibility). They were absolutely merciless in their assault, and so now the question becomes: has the team rebounded after a rough week one, or did the Packers truly expose something deeper in this team that will haunt them throughout much of the year? Maybe even a little of both?
- The MINNESOTA VIKINGS are going to have to protect the quarterback a whole lot better if they’re going to have any hope of going anywhere with a de facto rookie quarterback this season. JJ McCarthy was sacked five times in the first half alone, and you just cannot win games that way. A young quarterback needs to be able to build up a sense of rhythm. McCarthy has had moments where he’s looked like the real deal, but more often than not he’s looked every bit the young, first-year starter he is. And unfortunately for the Vikings, there was more bad than good on Sunday night.
Mr. Backes’s “This or That”
Every day I put a different “this or that” poll up on my whiteboard and have students leave tallies throughout the day. I then compile this information and post it here for laughs.
Here’s what we’ve seen over the last week:
- Mild salsa defeated hot salsa
- Music while studying defeated quiet while studying
- Homecoming bonfire defeated homecoming football game
- Coffee defeated tea
Week 3 NFL Picks
The Browns do have some pieces that could give the Packers some problems, including the outstanding Myles Garrett on the edge. But this is a team that has struggled mightily against much lesser competition so far this season. The Packers may be playing on the road, but they are a far better football team coming off a little extra rest. If they’re the team we think they are, they shouldn’t struggle too much.
Packers 30, Browns 13
And the rest of the week…
BILLS over Dolphins
VIKINGS over Bengals
TEXANS over Jaguars
COLTS over Titans
COMMANDERS over Raiders
EAGLES over Rams
FALCONS over Panthers
PATRIOTS over Steelers
PACKERS over Browns
BUCS over Jets
CHARGERS over Broncos
SEAHAWKS over Saints
COWBOYS over Bears
CARDINALS over 49ers
CHIEFS over Giants
RAVENS over Lions
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Tim Backes is a lifelong Packer fan and a contributor to CheeseheadTV. Follow him on Twitter @timbackes for his Packer takes, random musings and Untappd beer check-ins.
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Comments (63)
NickPerry
September 18, 2025 at 06:33 am
"Amazing how much of a difference coaching makes in getting players to meet their potential. It’s another one of those times where you have to wonder how some famous busts might have turned out if they’d ended up in better situations with better coaches."
Hafley has been a grand slam homerun hire by MLF. Obviously bringing in Parsons has made EVERYBODY better, but lets not forget the hiring of DeMarcus Covington. I think he's been other homerun hire. Rebrovich was never a good hire. Hell, IIRC he was out of coaching the season before the Packers hired him. But Covington deserves some praise too.
Weaknesses....I don't see no stinking weaknesses...I love this team!
GO PACK GO!
Cheezehead72
September 18, 2025 at 06:37 am
I agree with most of this Nick. The defense is better because Hafley has had a year to get his defense right and that they brought in Covington. Yes Parsons is good and yes he does make the defense better when he is on the field but he is not worth what we paid and gave up.
It would be interesting to see what how good the defense would be without Parsons but its too late for that.
Guam
September 18, 2025 at 07:34 am
The defense was #6 in the league in points allowed last year so we already knew they were good. Parsons made the defense better. Covington made the DL better. How much better remains to be seen but early returns look very good.
The deal was made and Parsons is a Packer. Just enjoy the ride.
Cheezehead72
September 18, 2025 at 07:47 am
I will enjoy the ride because it was done but do not complain after this year about how we cannot keep good players and we have to replace good players with subpar players because we have little cap space and do not have first round picks.
Lets see how good this defense is next year.
Houndog
September 18, 2025 at 08:40 am
Cheezehead,
The last two weeks might make this sound stupid, but before 'Now' it could have been argued that Gutey would have been better off with more 2nd round picks and no first's.
jurp
September 18, 2025 at 09:19 am
Covington just might be Hafley's replacement after he's (presumably) hired as a head coach this off-season. Not a bad idea, IMO.
davekenya
September 18, 2025 at 11:04 am
Given the hit or miss nature of late first round picks in general to make a significant difference, I'm not that concerned about the 2 #1s for Parsons -- knowing they were getting a proven 'game changer' and not 2 first round 'maybe' guys. And it looks like the cap is able to be managed. So, I would take a Parsons and his almost certainty to make the defense better vs not doing the trade and wondering/hoping about a possible future impact that may never come.
T7Steve
September 18, 2025 at 11:11 am
What's worse is if they hadn't done the trade and we had to play against him in the division.
dobber
September 18, 2025 at 07:29 am
Turn back the clock about 18 months when Hafley was hired and the sentiment in most Packers fan and media circles largely was a combination of ...
"who is this guy?"
"he has almost no coordinator experience"
"he has almost no NFL coaching experience"
"is this the best LaF could do?"
Starrbrite
September 18, 2025 at 08:26 am
Right Dobby—I was one of those doubters you’re referring to.
If I recall correctly, Hafley’s stated his defensive approach was/is an attacking/turnover-creating/gang tackling style. …and that’s what we have…the turnovers are forthcoming.
Houndog
September 18, 2025 at 08:54 am
dobber,
As a Packer fan in 49er territory I knew that his players loved him and spoke very highly of him in SF, Richard Sherman in particular, for what that's worth. But, like many, that's about all I knew.
Now it's like ringing your hands in hope that he doesn't get a HC job somewhere next year! He could be hard to hang on to!
T7Steve
September 18, 2025 at 07:03 am
"Nixon has never looked more confident playing in the secondary."
He started out as a special teamer and backup slot defender. Every season, heck every game, he's been improving and given more responsibility, and liking it. We've all commented here that a good pass rush is a CBs rout to the pro-bowl, and look what's happening before our eyes.
As long as all these guys stay hungry and trying to improve, they won't be able to catch Alexanderitice.
Edit...
I neglected to add that a tick better coverage helps the pass rush too. Complimentary football.
LambeauPlain
September 18, 2025 at 03:51 pm
Solid wins going 2-0, Packers! Well done...please accept our complimentary words!
BTW Packers, you are playing excellent complementary football too! ;-)
Leatherhead
September 19, 2025 at 11:47 am
This has been the first time in his career where he spent the offseason as the probable starter at CB. Previously, he was returner/backup CB (although he led all CBs in snaps.) He seems like a smart guy and I'm sure he's mentally prepared for this season and has a plan and knows what he's trying to do and what the coach wants done. He's a vet. He was a really good acquisition for this franchise.
GregC
September 18, 2025 at 07:05 am
The defensive players that are named here were all on a strong upward trajectory even before Micah Parsons arrived. The addition of Parsons was huge, no doubt, but this defense was going to be very good even without him. So let's give the other players some credit. Keisan Nixon actually broke up those passes, you know. I saw it with my own eyes. He had excellent coverage and made plays on the ball. This has not always been the case with Packer CBs over the years. Quay Walker is playing the same way he did toward the end of last season. And Lukas Van Ness is continuing the strong showing he had in training camp.
The defense is benefitting from improved coaching AND improved personnel. Hafley is a better coach than Barry, plus he has Xavier McKinney, Edgerrin Cooper, and now Micah Parsons, as well as players like Evan Williams, Javon Bullard, and a Lukas Van Ness who has had a couple years to develop some NFL moves--which was the career trajectory that was expected when he was drafted. Think about who all those players replaced--if you can even remember their names. Hafley has been excellent and Parsons is great, but defense is a team effort. Weak links get exposed, and we don't have any obvious weak links right now.
dobber
September 18, 2025 at 07:40 am
"The addition of Parsons was huge, no doubt, but this defense was going to be very good even without him."
This is a great statement, Greg, and I think it's very true. It's possible that this defense might not have played as well as last year without the beef in the middle, but the trajectory arrow was definitely pointing up through last year, and Covington (like Anthony Campanile a year ago) was a great get.
"The defense is benefitting from improved coaching AND improved personnel."
This is an important statement as well, and it seems that just about every great defense has great players on each level. I'd argue that if your safety play in particular is poor, the whole defense suffers...remember how bad it was until HHCD was drafted? Even HE made things look so much better, and we all know how he turned out. There are a lot of pieces married together in what we've seen over the last 20 games or so. Improved coaching...improved personnel...much improved defense.
davekenya
September 18, 2025 at 11:08 am
The Parsons' effect is also that GB can spread out the pass rush reps among a larger group. This allows GB to consistently pressure the QB and not have the same 3 guys out there getting tired and wore out by Q4 as we saw a lot last year.
LambeauPlain
September 18, 2025 at 03:57 pm
Not having 4 guys out there getting tired, you mean.
A top priority for Hafley and his Defense was to get consistent pressure from the front 4 on passing downs. They are now. Parsons unlocked more opportunities for Gary, Van Ness, Wyatt, Enagbare, and Wooden. I look forward to Sorrell's speed as he gets going too. Wish Cox Jr. was in the mix but the front 4 rotation is really good.
Guam
September 18, 2025 at 07:42 am
Excellent post GregC.
The DL looks improved even when Parsons isn't in there and minus Clark as well so I give significant credit to Covington. LVN, Wyatt, Wooden and Brooks all look better and while some of that is natural maturation of young players, I don't believe all of it is. Covington is getting more from each one of these players and I think he is a great addition to the Packer coaching staff.
dobber
September 18, 2025 at 07:45 am
"The DL looks improved even when Parsons isn't in there"
There's an energy on defense that we just didn't see from Joe Barry's groups. Barry's defenses had stretches when they were pretty decent, and stretches where they were not...they were woefully inconsistent and had some brutal lapses in fundamentals (like lining up or just getting on the field).
Whether it's because of Campanile or Covington or Hafley himself, seeing defenses play hard--and play well--is so much more enjoyable.
T7Steve
September 18, 2025 at 08:08 am
Don't forget how nice it is to see gang tackling making sure the guy is down.
GregC
September 18, 2025 at 08:23 am
Yes, the defense has improved all across the board, even without Parsons, who has been on the field only about half the time so far. Last year the Packers were 6th in scoring defense, while the Cowboys with Parsons (though he missed four games) were 31st.
I think it's impossible to tell how much Marcus Covington is helping as a DL coach. Probably some. He has a much better reputation than the previous DL coach. He may also be making an impact as run defense coordinator. But these things are hard to judge without being able to observe meetings and practice sessions.
T7Steve
September 18, 2025 at 08:51 am
Just be happy to observe the results. Just joking. I know and can tell you are.
Bearmeat
September 18, 2025 at 08:02 am
Tim,
I’ve moved to Germany and let me tell you, the beer here is AMAZING! We are going to Oktoberfest (the real one in München) next weekend.
As for football:
1. The Lions are douche canoes. They ran up the score on the hapless Bears because they could. Not because they should. I generally don’t root for injury, but I will absolutely REJOICE when one of their starters gets very badly hurt running the score up sooner or later. I was hopeful that ARSB was hurt last week, but alas, he was faking.
Also, the Packers are clearly better at almost every starting position than the Lions. Eff their coach. Eff their team. Eff their fans.
2. The Vikings are in hell. They have an old and expensive team, and their rookie QB isn’t ready. DON”T START ROOKIE QBs morons. Good. They deserve it.
3. Oh the Bears. If they weren’t always a joke, it’d be funny…. Wait. It is funny. Always funny. HAHAHAHAH.
4. We are going to roll Cleveland. Then Dallas. Then going forward, I think we will (rightly) be favored in every game until PHI comes to town. That doesn’t mean we will win every game, but it does mean we are a true juggernaut. I am so thankful for Gute and MLF and Love. We truly are spoiled.
dobber
September 18, 2025 at 08:26 am
The Lions already have a pretty heavily laden IR, just like a year ago. When you play like Campbell incites them to--recklessly rather than controlled aggression--guys get hurt at a higher rate.
HawkPacker
September 18, 2025 at 08:39 am
Yes, watching the games thus far this year, I don't get that feeling that we need to get a bit lucky on defense to win the game.
There is so much pursuit by the defense and gang tackling. I really enjoy watching our defensive front each and every snap.
I really hope this continues and that there are no major injuries this year.
LambeauPlain
September 18, 2025 at 04:06 pm
Gotta tell you Hawk...this could be the best Packers Defense since Fritz Schumer, the front 4 of Reggie, Dotson, Jones and Gravedigger, attacking, hard hitting LBs like Simmons, and a DB group led by LeRoy.
Just like Fritz's men, Hafley's Defense has solid talent at all three levels. That's a D that can carry a Team during an off day for the O...or STs debacles (we have had too many of those).
I love excellent Defense. It was elusive for a good share of Favre and Rodgers tenures.
Starrbrite
September 18, 2025 at 08:42 am
Campbell running-up the score on his on his former O-coordinator is shameful. I’m not a fan of Benny J. but I’m even less of a fan of “Big Dufus” Campbell. I hope there’s some revenge brewing for Campbell/Lions in future Bear/Lion contests.
jurp
September 18, 2025 at 09:25 am
Perhaps we're starting to see shades of the Forrest Gregg/Mike Ditka rivalry of the mid-80s.
dobber
September 18, 2025 at 11:05 am
There was no way that Campbell was going to let the Bears walk into Ford Field and play anywhere close to even with them.
crayzpackfan
September 18, 2025 at 08:46 am
"but I will absolutely "REJOICE" when one of their starters gets "very badly hurt" running the score up sooner or later"
I agree with your entire post, but can't get behind this. Why would anyone REJOICE when another human being gets "very badly hurt"?
That sends some really bad karma right back at a person.
Packers0808
September 18, 2025 at 09:07 am
Agree 100% with your last 2 concerns!
Bearmeat
September 19, 2025 at 11:47 am
For the same reason that Campbell is such a douche canoe. I hated it when the Pats routinely scored 50 on people when they didn’t have to. And then there was the year Wes Welker got hurt running up the score in a meaningless week 17 game. It ruined their 2013 postseason.
If football karma is real. That seemed fair. May that happen to the Lions until Campbell learns to call off the dogs. Win the game. And move on.
I will not apologize for hoping this happens to a dbag team.
Leatherhead
September 19, 2025 at 11:53 am
I went to the 1979 Oktoberfest. Bavaria is beer heaven, and if you like to drink beer, you're in the right place. I was stationed nearby, defending Western Civilization from the Godless Commies, and it was a quick 45 min train ride/taxi for me. Everyday, I'd finish work at 4:00 and I'd be in Munich drinking beer by 5:45, and then I'd party for a couple of hours, take the train back, and be safe in my bunk by 10:00 .
Great time. If you're a fan of Oompa-pa music, roasted chicken, and beer, you're in for a treat.
TXCHEESE
September 18, 2025 at 08:32 am
I don't know if it's Covington, or if it's Parsons. Probably some of both, the entire DL is rushing with more ferocity and violence than in past years. A fire has been lit, and let's hope it becomes a raging inferno all season.
MLF mentions it time and again, regarding the style of play on defense. Multiple hats on the ball carrier, and much surer tackling than I've witnessed from the defense in a long time. Only two games, but very encouraging.
As for the offense. They're getting there. Still need the run game to improve (gotta protect those leads!) Kraft is a beast!
With Jacobs, McKinney, Gary and now Parsons, I don't think this team will get complacent.
LeotisHarris
September 18, 2025 at 08:37 am
Speaking of the Bears, if you haven't read Ty Dunne's three-part series on that organizational clusterf*ck it's worth your time. You can find free links on Reddit, or it's behind a paywall on his Go Long site. It was good of Ben the Wizard to talk smack at his hiring presser. Makes the schadenfreude all that more delicious.
HawkPacker
September 18, 2025 at 08:42 am
I remember Ben talking packer smack but not about any other teams. I do get the feeling that he did talk smack about the Lions just based on how Detroit ran up the score and when I watched both coaches shake hands at the end of the game. That took a nano second so there apparently is no love lost there.
LeotisHarris
September 18, 2025 at 10:19 am
That was the quickest of bro-hugs, wasn't it? Not exactly Bill Parcells telling Jimmy Johnson to keep his chin up.
LambeauPlain
September 18, 2025 at 04:19 pm
Johnson smirked "I look forward to playing Matt LaFleur twice a year as HC" to laughter and claps at his opening HC presser.
Instead he has been smacked by LaFleur...and Campbell. And 0-2. Hehe, hehehe, hehehehe!
Houndog
September 18, 2025 at 09:06 am
Leotis,
I said the same on a different site an hour ago!
Johnson came out of the gate talking shit at his introductory press conference, Bears fans loved it.
MLF brushed it off, Campbell didn't!
Is that Crow I see stuck in Johnson's teeth?
Packers0808
September 18, 2025 at 09:10 am
Chicago's head "GURU" Johnson had his pick of head jobs and Picks Da Bears, what the hell kind of GURU is he really!
Bitternotsour
September 18, 2025 at 09:39 am
did he though? maybe this was his only legit offer.
Packers0808
September 18, 2025 at 09:50 am
From what I read he had opportunities with Pats, Raiders and Jags but chose the Bears.
T7Steve
September 18, 2025 at 11:14 am
Chicago churns out coaches and QBs. Too bad for them it's in the wrong direction.
jurp
September 18, 2025 at 09:17 am
"You have to wonder how some famous busts might have turned out if they’d ended up in better situations with better coaches."
Good point, with at least one historic example: Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers before signing as a street free agent with the Colts. Better coaching (and team) led to a HoF career. Now he wouldn't have been a bust because he was only a 9th round draft pick, but his career (and to some extent, Starr's) shows the impact a good coach can have on a player's career.
Like Unitas, Favre's career was resurrected by moving to a different team. I'm convinced that he'd've washed out of the league if he had remained with the Falcons or been traded to/picked up by any other team than the Packers and any other coach than Holmgren. Holmgren (and Mariucci) made him a superstar.
BuckyBadger
September 18, 2025 at 09:22 am
Some players like Favre need a change in scenery just so they can get a kick in the butt they needed. Many times it was the player that needed a reset and refocus rather than the team they where on.
jurp
September 18, 2025 at 09:30 am
Good point and true in Favre's case, but the trade to GB only worked because Wolf and Holmgren MADE it work. Favre needed taming, and Holmgren (and apparently Deanna) did indeed tame him. I think the success the team finally started to see in 92 and 93 helped a lot too. It was the perfect marriage between player, coach and team.
Leatherhead
September 18, 2025 at 09:21 am
Since Hafley was hired, we've acquired McKinney, Hobbs, Cooper, Williams, Bullard, and Parsons. That's quite a bit of defensive talent.
BuckyBadger
September 18, 2025 at 09:42 am
For the last several years the team has put a lot into the defense. The draft in the early rounds have been mostly D. In 2018 the 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks where defense, in 2019 they spend 2 1st rounders on D, 2020 was offense, 2021 1st rounder was CB Stokes, 2022 they spent 2 1st rounders on the GA boys and 2023 was LVN in the 1st. With all those picks and additions of they have made in the last 2 years this D better be a bully.
Leatherhead
September 18, 2025 at 10:18 am
Anybody we took over four years ago doesn't matter if we didn't retain them.
BuckyBadger
September 18, 2025 at 09:21 am
Not at a break yet, we have a Brown spot to clean up first.
TarynsEyes
September 18, 2025 at 09:36 am
2-0 is a great start, but there's something missing, I can't put a finger on it, but it feels like they've been a tad lucky that both DET and Wash seemed to be auditioning for a Walking Dead episode.
The Defense looks great against the lost, and the Offense still leaves a lot on the field. The totals look wonderful, but how hard of a game was either of these opponents.
It seems Jaylen Daniels, like Stroud has, looks to be losing some of that rookie magic both showed.
Two wins is two wins, but the opposition play has not offered a work of sweat. Are they that bad or is GB that good? I still need to see more against anyone that plays like they're alive.
BuckyBadger
September 18, 2025 at 09:45 am
Both opponents made the playoffs last year. Detroit was the NFC North champ and the team we are chasing not to mention looked very good blowing out the Bears the following week. Not only have the Pack won the games but won in domination fashion.
Do you only what shutouts? Lets not get too picky.
TarynsEyes
September 18, 2025 at 10:27 am
Last year is last year, and now matchups and wins are based on that reputation. There is no way one can deem DET or Was looked like the teams last year. The Packers haven't looked like last year, so it has to go both ways. Teams are ready or are they rusty still from the lack of preseason, personnel changes etc. All I'm saying is, a couple of more weeks will define who's what. If they lose to CLE, will GB still be deemed the best, or what they were these last two games, no. It's still a tad to fluid.
crayzpackfan
September 18, 2025 at 11:01 am
I agree. While I am enjoying the absolute poop outa what we are seeing so far, we won't know the truth about any team this year for another 2-4 weeks. There will be injuries across the league, momentum shifts, teams will be getting back key players, players we have never really heard of will suddenly stand out while some stars will fade into obscurity. All of this will sort of settle over the next several weeks painting a picture of what teams, going into the second half of the season are most likely losers, pretenders, unlucky, really good and great. GB is no exception to this. The Packers, so far, have had a great start. They have played inspiring, fast and seemingly complete football. This is a great habit they're falling into because we will need this foundation going further into our schedule. So far, A+ for GB and it feels really good. One game at a time.
BuckyBadger
September 19, 2025 at 09:04 am
You can't over react to each week but you aren't being reasonable. Detroit is the back to back champion of the division and many had them pick to do it again before the Parsons trade. They are the measuring stick of the division and the Packers dominated the game.
They beat two teams with good if not great QBs and are expected to make the playoffs this year. That is a as good of a start as any reasonable fan can ask for.
Leatherhead
September 19, 2025 at 11:37 am
''''...a couple of more weeks will define who's what."""
The middle of the season, as in "midseason form" is probably games #5-#12, followed by the stretch run. This is early season, and things can change directions in a hurry. Two games is just too small of a sample. But by the time you've played four or 5 games, that's a big enough sample to be representative.
As you know, I'm a points guy. We're scoring 27 points a game, and we haven't given up 20 yet. IF that trend continues, we'll win every game we play.
T7Steve
September 18, 2025 at 10:27 am
This Browns team will be a stout test for the offense if the last two weren't. Maybe they'll show you what they have.
My main goal this week is to get through it unscathed health wise. I hate games that don't mean much if you win but you better not lose. I guess that's the definition of a trap game if there is such a thing at the NFL level.
HawkPacker
September 18, 2025 at 11:05 am
'2-0 is a great start, but there's something missing, I can't put a finger on it'
Taryn, I know what is missing, you being positive!
Just joking of course. I am pretty impressed by the start and the way they won those games. Lot's of gang tackling and pressure by the defense.
The offense is fine. We need to take what the opponent's defense gives us. They are stacking the box to shut down our running game. That will ease with more wins.
davekenya
September 18, 2025 at 11:16 am
Regarding the comment that the run (blocking) is not that great. Through the first 2 games, I read that teams were averaging a stacked (8 in the box) on a staggering 63% of the snaps -- Detroit was over 70% and WA at just under 50%. Naturally, Jacobs did not have the normal holes he may get as time goes on and the O-line gels more, but the stacked boxes make the run blocking not look as great when it's likely about the same. I'd expect defenses to continue to stack the box and challenge Love to beat them through the air -- esp. now with Reed out for a few months. And I expect MLF to adjust knowing this. More TE opportunities to shine.
Since'61
September 18, 2025 at 11:25 am
The Packers are in a great spot at this point in the season. However, there is a long way to go. With the next 2 games on the road we’ll see if the Packers can maintain their level of intensity and their sense of urgency. If they can do that over the next 2 games and go 4-0 into their bye week we have a great chance to win the division and go into the playoffs on a high note. They need to stay healthy and stay focused. GPG!
Thanks, Since ‘61
ricky
September 18, 2025 at 11:53 am
As far as special teams go, perhaps it's time to bring in a new coach from the college ranks to coach this group. Why? Because this is the youngest team in the league. When Hafley came in to coach the defense, he was a former college head coach. He knew how to communicate and motivate the younger players because he was used to working with younger players. Maybe the same thing would work for special teams, which are at least not a liability, but still far from good. Because right now the only thing keeping this group from being ranked lower is the kicking game has improved with McManus and Whelan. But there are still too many penalties and blown coverage after three years of Bisaccia. And what happened instead? They extended his contract in January of this year. Go figure.
As far as LVN goes, a change in coaches has done wonders not only for him, but seems to have supercharged the entire D line. How bad was the previous coach? On this site, there were reports that LVN was being taught a spin move for the first time in his THIRD YEAR. This is simply mind boggling. Having several moves is essential to the success of a D lineman. Why did it take a coaching change to begin teaching these basic techniques? Inquiring minds want to know!
LambeauPlain
September 18, 2025 at 04:28 pm
Packers Defense should have a very good day, and if the T/0s are created...a win, even if the Offense struggles against one of the best Defenses in the NFL.
Big game for LaFleur, who can dial up a great game plan.
STs? Just kick the ball through the uprights and boom & pin them deep. Returns? Meh, just make sound decisions and take care of the ball.