totally agree Aaron, The play calling needs some serious attention!!!

What's your source on Finley?

Can't wait till next year.

I don't even think I will be able to enjoy my vacation for the next two weeks after watching this game...When I get back, the Packers NEED to be 5-2...COME THE FUCK ON MCCARTHY!! (I am a little drunk...)

I am leading the charge to have Mike McCarthy FIRED....!!

Can McCarthy do the work?

Totally agree.

Also. Chad Clifton is done.
Time for Charles to move to Safety IMO.

werent we all pissy like this after Tampa? The secondary will improve with Bigby and harris james starks should help the running game...if theres one thing that kills this offense it is the loss of finley but aaron rodgers will not let this season go to waste

we need to run the ball... NEED.. to run the ball.. need need need to run the ball...
rodgers wanted the ball in his hands.. makes crucial mistakes..

we control every game and lose because of a lack of running game and cant throw 46 times adn win..

WRs drop passes cause they get tired... hte more times u throw the more drops you will see.. dont give the WRs a break with a running game adn u will see drops and bad route running...

defense.. played great when the offense was controlling the game.. if the defense is on the field the whole 2nd half oviously they are going to start to fall apart with the limited number of players on the bench...

injuries may hurt us... clay matthews is a dagger... but we have so much talent on offense there is no excuse for not scoring.. we need to get jennings the ball adn see if he can do something.. whenever he gets open rodgers doesnt give him a look.. and when jennings is in tight coverage rodgers throws a bad pass... (that last pick.. u put that on the outside shoulder of jennings its a catch not a pick)

our defense played so well in teh first hald despite the injuries..
i get it. injuries can kill you.. but we dominated that game in every way but cant finish because we have penalties and no runninggame its just a crying shame... a crying shame
we should be undefeated right now.. but we shoot ourselves in the foot..

at this point i do not think we are a playoff team... is it early? yes... but it looks terrible for us right now..

we have no drive.. we have no leaders... if you looked at a post i made on this site earlier in the year before the season i stated this as well.. team covered in talent.. but we dont have a ray lewis.. we dont have THAT GUY.. rodgers does not seem to be that guy.. we need someone who comes up big in close games.. we dont seem to have anyone like that

im not saying its over for us... but at this point i dont really know what direction this team is going to go.. i dont know if MM is going to get his head out of his arse and start callin better plays i really just dont know whether they even care... they show no heart out there.. you dont see crunchin hits u dont see them fighting.. u see mental mistakes..

things dont look good in green bay.
injuries may be an excuse.. but we still need to find ways to win regardless

Rodgers has to get the job done in the 4th & OT.. All these big drives end of regulation or in overtime aren't ending in scores like they should. It will only get tougher for him without Finley, but they have the receivers to make up for his loss. It's on McCarthy to use them correctly.

Aaron, do you have a source for the Jermichael injury prediction? Or is that just guessing based on his presence on the sideline with crutches. He did miss a big chunk of games last year with knee troubles. And the play when he went down didn't look bad.

The offense just has no rhythm. Everyone looks like they're pressing. It's the same whole "look for the big play" mentality with Rodgers. There were at least three third downs he could have converted with his legs where he kept looking downfield and threw incomplete. Argh.

Who to blame for the ammount of injuries? Luck? Are we that unlucky since 08? Don't think so.

Nags,
You're right on with your commentary.

* Jermichael Finley is most likely out for the season. UPDATE: Greg Bedard reports Finley will miss only one or two weeks. We'll see.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something weird about the look (no one touched him/those are the WORST) -- would not be surprised to see him gone

* Aaron Rodgers went to bat publicly for his receivers last week - they sure let him down today with all those drops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even so, you don't want your QB coaching your club -- great recipe for being out-of-balance

* I've said all along that McCarthy is a pass-first coach and always will be. That said, he simply has to do a better job of realizing when his passing game is out of sync and leaning on the running game. Brandon Jackson had a good thing going and McCarthy just refused to acknowledge it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just pure, stupid, hard-headedness on McCarthy -- the kind that should get him FIRED. (c'mon ! how many times, how many damned times has this happened in the past???)

* The defense did about as well as could be expected with so many guys out with injuries.
* That said - Dom Capers is KILLING me with the three man rushes on 3rd and long.
>>>>>>>>>>> the true definition of INSANITY -- doing the same thing over-and-over-again, but expecting different results. THIS HAS HAPPENED MANY TIMES PREVIOUSLY -- for the love of God, review your own tape, you jerk

* Bryan Bulaga did a good, not great, job in his first NFL start.
>>>>>>>>>> yeah, he had some "whiffs", for sure

* Woodson can bitch all he wants - he needs to stop grabbing guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he shouldn't bitch, cuz he and his buddies mugged people all day long.

* The Packers need to get healthy in the worst way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WILL. NOT. MATTER.

* Mike McCarthy has a lot of work to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prepare a resume, Careerbuilder, etc...

This is not an over-reaction on my part.
This was an offense against all things Packer, today -- pure and simple.

Aaron,

You are straight and on point this week. There isn't much you can say this week. They held up admirably, but it was just too much.

Live to play another week.

Next weeks menu....deep fried 'Phins.

Given all the injuries and with Washington being at home, what did you think of Packers going for it on 4th and 1 (in the first half) rather than kicking a field goal?

Bulaga has never played right tackle in a game at any level. Considering that, I think he did a "very good" job.

McCarthy kills me more than capers. Incredibly predicable calls, never comes back to plays that were successful early, poor game management. Can we win a Super Bowl with McCarthy as coach? I'm having my doubts...

Can't get into a rhythm when your receivers drop balls. Killed this team last year, doin it again. For all the complaints of the packers being too young It's the veterans killing this club......

They said on CBS rodgers got a concussion on that last play. True?

"I don’t even think I will be able to enjoy my vacation for the next two weeks after watching this game"

Enjoy it anyway.
4 quarters of shite, yet 2, count 'em, chances to drag it out in overtime.

Don't get me started on the 3rd down defensive play calling! How many freakin' times have we watched opponents convert 3rd & long...over the last X years?!? The Packers must rank #32 in 3rd down & long defensive stats! I almost hurled my beer through the TV screen today! Doesn't matter what players the team has, or who the defensive coordinator is. It's one of the few true constants about the team, and I'm fed up with it!

Her, Capers - next time you have the opponent in 3rd & long, SEND THE HOUSE, DAMMIT!

The receivers were a god damn joke today. Woodson's penalty was a god damn joke. Poppinga got hosed, not a penalty.

All in all, a bullshit game from a 9-7 team. There, I said it. They're as mediocre as it gets.

3rd&1 & 3rd&2, we spread it out 5 wide, not one runningback or fullback in there. I'm not saying we HAVE to run it there, but don't let the other team tee off. WTF

No one deserved to win that game. The Skins looked like a train wreck. The Packers D did well holding them to 13 in regulation. Where is this elite passing game?

im just disgusted we threw away a game in chicago, barely won at home against the lions, & now lost in washington. i dont know if its bone head play calling, injuries, no running game or maybe a combination of all 3. but this is gettin ridiculous we should be the class of the nfc north. lets get this shit together. we can avoid injuries, but we can mix up the play calling a bit. & kick the fckin field goal ! damnit what did we lose by ? a fckin field goal huh not scoring in the red zone comes back to haunt ya

what about the QB sneak ?

can you say:

WEAK.
TEAT ?

c'mon, SAY IT.
cuz that's what is was.

good back-rub, Colledge...

Let's try and look at the positives:

-Bishop looked very good.

-I think the D as a whole played very well.

-We had at least four or five opportunities to win. Just have to close it out better, remember this is a road game against a decent team. These are never gimmees.

Defense did not lose this game.

Failure of offense to execute when it counts the most did.

Packers put up gaudy numbers in the first half and came away with 10 points. Ridiculous. IMO, McCarthy's play calling is suspect, if only for the fact when it is clear his OLine is having troubles giving his QB adequate time in the pocket, that he simply refuses to call passing plays that have WR's, TE's, or RB's running short underneath routes or leaks as a release valve if things get hairy. He Refuses to run the ball, using screens or draws to keep opposing D-lines honest. He instead seems to fall into (what looks like to me) mad bravado, this mindset that he's going to prove the Packers can and will break off 30-40 yards of real estate through the air at a time.

I'd love to fault Rodgers for looking for the deep play too much, but guess what? It seems like he doesn't have a choice when all of his WR's are running 4 second routes and he only has 2.5 seconds before his protection dissolves. Give the kid some quick outlet options or running plays and start using your head instead of your balls to playcall, McCarthy.

Lastly, Jordy Nelson's non-TD should have been challenged. Looked like a TD to me. Feet in, ball hits inside of pylon before knees go down, TD. Lost 6 points right there.

What's the deal with PI calls now adays? I seem to remember not to long ago, if a defender is looking for the ball while it's in the air, and stays on his current course, if his legs get tangled with the receiver's, it was considered incidental contact, no flag... Poppinga was CLEARLY playing the ball, he was looking at the LOS, the WR never even LOOKED for the ball, Pop stays on his original course, legs get tangled, and it's PI??!! WTF? Adding to the grief, it was within 5 yards of the LOS, where he could have legally jacked the WR up with his hands if he really wanted to. Ugly, game changing call late in the game on a 3rd and short.

DDs drop on 3rd before crosby fieldgoal miss was the game to me.

3 games in a row, Bears game was just odd, against the Lions the Pack was overconfident, and the Pack had multiple injuries against the Redskins.

What ever the reasons the Pack has not played a game well in 3 weeks.

A good coach gets the most out of the players he has, like N. Carolina beating Alabama, Alabama has the better athletes, Alabama just got out coached that game.

Will MM wake up by mid season again, who knows?

Even with all the excuses or reasons, the last 3 games we had the better athletes, yet we are 1-3.

A good note, we found an ILB who can play with some big play abilities in Bishop, he should in the good this week.

PACKERS ARE A BUST.

Okay, I've calmed down. Ya know, as bummed as I was about today's loss and the violently disgusting injury report, I think the Packers will be fine. The defense is playing well overall, and the offense WILL find a rhythm. They might start peaking at just the right time. The only thing that could stop them (and this is obviously my biggest concern) is an extended injury report.

I have been ripped for almost everything I've said and yet it all comes to be proven after every game.The funniest shit is what comes from others.

We'll just OUT SCORE everyone.
Who needs a running game.
Did you see how we held the lead?
Who plans for back-ups like Vick?
We had the #2 defense LAST YEAR.
We only got toasted by ELITE QB's.
Our OL played much better in the second half of season.
We'll be fine.
Super Bowl or Die!!!

The shit goes on forever,and all I said in a few different ways is a very basic,easy concept which engulfed the whole situation in yours and my beloved Green Bay Packer world,well in mine at least as I'm more looked on as an imposter in yours, is simply TALENT.

We have a couple of marquis players(Rodgers,Matthews,Woodson) for sure and a few, more than or just good players.The problem is we don't have enough players that would be considered to play as starters elsewhere.Let's take a looksy;
Bush,Hawk,Poppy,Peprah,Underwood,Zombo,Chillar,B Jones,both Lee's,Jackson,Colledge and yes Clifton and Tauscher. Really,teams we need to beat will start these guys.

There is an upside(for those with sand hiding their heads)we can expect Harris and the"one hit wonder"Bigby himself to get the job done,right!!!Let's not forget Collins who should like what,IDK 40 freaking INT's but doesn't,and the man himself Barnett who has taken a sabatical and will decide on surgery what in April.Any chance they fix his big mouth and the wrist at the same time.

I believe that MM and TT are clueless at times by the things they do and don't do.No trades,not drafting to fill deep needs,play calling, and the incessant habit of calling the other coach and holding the next plays up for all to see.But the worst is the "status quo" mentality roster choices.

My personal favorite is the one that is ranted by an esteemed member of CHTV,
"We have Rodgers,we'll just OUT SCORE everybody"yeah,that's the ticket I'm buying FOR SURE!!!

Mia,Minn,Jets,Dal and then comes one we can't lose.
Have a nice Day!!!

The NFC is wide open, can't afford to lose any more games we should win!

Aaron, I wonder if you get more hits when the Packers lose. Sure seems like everyone is here to piss on the team and give up the season.

I said from the beginning on this very website that this is a 9-7 or 10-6 team. We're not an elite team that can overcome the mistakes we make. Especially when there's this many injuries but the backups really did a TREMENDOUS JOB except for whoever spelled Matthews...

I'd argue that there's no elite team in the league at all this year, and especially not in the NFC...and even more specifically certainly not in the NFC North. Every team thus far has major weaknesses.

I have been a staunch MM defender the last 2 yrs, but I'm beginning to question that. This loss squarely falls on his shoulders. He did nothing to adjust today. When you have a severely hobbled D, shouldn't you make an effort to keep them off the field--ie eat clock with a running game? When you lose youre top 2 TE's and your WR's are dropping balls like crazy, shouldn't you adjust and try to run the ball? Especially when the running game is working? especially with a 10 point lead?? I'm not saying we should play NOT to lose or play scared. Just make some damn adjustments to the reality. I think he stunk it up today and would hope he'll take some responsibility for this loss.

as does every fan site, call in show etc etc...common knowledge. avenues like this one are great for letting the average rube vent. maybe we should all just sing a happy tune and be on our way. but i thought expressing opinions was the point of a fan blog like this.

Heres a hint to the poor production of the Green Bay Packers....Missing from all the hype we received this pre-season was any for Thompson and McCarthy.

Scoring just 13 points? Really? Something must be wrong, because everyone who was reporting on the Packers expected some high scoring offense, where the defense would give up too many points and they would get into shootouts. So: What's wrong? Is it just the injuries? I don't think so (on the offensie side it was "just" Grant until yesterday). The offense seems "out of rhythm". No real gameflow, lots of quick 3 and outs.
And now the schedule gets a lot tougher. And the injuries pile up. This looks more and mor like a 8-8 season (if the Pack doesn't lose more players to the injury bug).
P.S. What is wrong with referees and obvious shots to the head of Aaron Rodgers? It never gets caled. Other QBs get little touching to the helmet and get 15 yard penalties, he gets hammered with helmet to helmet hits and nothing happens. *off to puke*

rule one of football discussion:

if it's not the QB it's the coach.

Forget that the running game is weaksauce and the WRs are dropping balls... the injury rate... couple fumbles here and there.

It's a good team, not a great one, and an unlucky one.

I'd say expectations are more realistic now. They should have always been "win a playoff game."

"P.S. What is wrong with referees and obvious shots to the head of Aaron Rodgers? It never gets caled. Other QBs get little touching to the helmet and get 15 yard penalties, he gets hammered with helmet to helmet hits and nothing happens."

Or even called :-). I totally agree, dude put his hands in the air (smart move) but still had helmet-to-helmet contact with #12 (enough to give him a concussion), 15 and a 1st. It is getting old not getting those calls, but what's even worse is continually getting into a position where we let 1 non-call possibly affect the outcome of the game. We should have had them put away in the 1st half. PERIOD. And yeah, injuries hurt (I really think I lost my mind for a minute and started laughing at the frequency of key players dropping), but we still should have FINISHED that game.

I don't want to be "THAT GUY" but I'm really starting to wonder if Coach can get his team to a Title/over the hump. Every year, Discipline issues/unreal# of penalties, Pad level, Special teams roller coaster. I like the guy, but this shits turning into Groundhog day. And Ted, the more I hear Mortensen and Schefter ridicule you for the NON-Lynch acquisition, the more I think they're right. I generally like/approve of the way you handle your business, but that one's just a pure fucking head scratcher, hope you're right.

GBP 4 LIFE

Add:

Where is Greg Jennings? Is he hurt? Double covered? Loafing? Do we have any reporters to ask questions?