Gut Reactions: Week 12 vs Chicago

Aaron's Gut Reactions to the Packers loss to the Bears. 

  • What a colossal embarrassment
  • This entire game was about stubborness. Mike and Dom are both way too stubborn to adjust. To anything. 
  • With the game on the line and four shots at the endzone, the Packers didn't run a single play that didn't basically boil down to "Everyone get open" and praying Rodgers could make a play. 
  • Davante Adams needs to stop begging for flags and start making plays. 
  • There's a stagnation hanging over this team that was drawn into sharp focus with Favre in the house. Mike McCarthy has been around a long time and his inability to make any kind of meaningful adjustment to his offensive system could suggest that his message has grown stale. 
  • The constant sending of wide receivers on deep vertical routes, knowing they can''t beat man coverage, is the height of hubris. 
  • Rodgers' interception was fitting as it was the kind of INT we saw Favre throw many times. A quarterback expects the WR to break hard into that window. Rodgers threw to a spot. Adams has to fight through whatever trash is in his way and get to that spot. 
  • That said, Rodgers was less than stellar again tonight. 
  • Capers had Cutler and the Bears on the ropes early, but the offense's inability to put up points ruined them. Once Gase adjusted to what was going on, Capers had few answers. 
  • Is Julius Peppers still on this team?
  • Don Barclay held up well in relief of Bulaga against a very good pass rusher. 
  • Tretter had another strong game, despite the bad snap. 
  • Why the Packers didn't run the ball 35 times tonight is beyond me. 
  • Seriously, Eddie Lacy averaged 6.2 yards per carry. Starks averaged 5.6. Rodgers threw the ball 43 times. This is straight up asinine. 
  • On the positive side of things, seeing Bart Starr at halftime was amazing. His hug with Favre brought tears to my eyes. 
  • Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. 
  • Go Pack. 
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cuphound's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:10 pm

I keep trying to remember that McCarthy is the man who won us the 2010 NFC Championship, proving the Bears Still Suck Forever. It's getting harder and harder.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:16 pm

Superbowl, but I know what you mean. Have same feeling on MM

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cuphound's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:01 pm

The Super Bowl victory was nice, but the last time we had met the Bears in the playoffs was circa 1941. The odds of us meeting the Bears again in the playoffs in my lifetime is pretty close to zero. Hence, the Bears Still Suck Forever. That is deeply meaningful to me. Too bad we didn't live up to that fact last night.

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Wenis's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:23 pm

Didn't get to watch the post game presser but I bet McCarthy started and finished with "We have to work on fundamentals".

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JerseyAl's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:33 pm

MM said there wasn't "one big thing wrong here." Didn't use fundamentals.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:48 pm

He did say changes needed to be made... So there is a slim but if hope that the light bulb is getting turned on...

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badaxed's picture

November 27, 2015 at 06:42 pm

A "5 watt bulb" is pretty dim.

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badaxed's picture

November 27, 2015 at 06:40 pm

Don't forget "pad level"

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joepacker's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:02 am

superbowl was 5 years ago.

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Michael David's picture

November 27, 2015 at 04:08 am

McCarthy isn't the main problem IMO. He's not doing a great job this year, but neither is Rodgers or the offense as a whole. I still think McCarthy is a great coach, and that Super Bowl run, even though five years ago, proved that he can have ultimate success in this league, especially with the adversity that they faced.

I really think we need to look at the players on this team and cast more blame towards them rather than always blaming the coach for the loss. McCarthy deserves criticism for lack of adjusting, but the reason we lost this game was because receivers just weren't making plays. I viewed this game much like the NFCCG loss--too much blame was put on McCarthy for conservative playcalling, when in actuality the players on the team totally blew it, because for as conservative as that gameplan was, it had a 97% chance of beating the Seahawks with five minutes to play. But the players didn't finish.

In this game, the gameplan got us in position to score several times, but receivers were dropping passes and had no chemistry with Rodgers. If Adams or Cobb hold onto the ball a few more times, or if Tretter doesn't screw up the snap, we win the game.

Coaching and McCarthy need to do better, but I more upset at the players after this game, and I felt the same way after the Seattle loss. To me, its 75% execution, and the players need to make plays.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 04:24 am

Agree completely with you. And I want to add one more detail. Aaron Rodgers has to stop behaving like spoiled child when he lose his favorite toy... His behaviour produced loss in self confidence towards his WRs. And that is why they are trying to do more than is needed. And fails...

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Marco's picture

November 27, 2015 at 07:54 am

If I'm Ted T. I put Lacy on the trading block in offseason. He's tough to tackle when hit high, but he leaves so many yards on the field when he trips over his own feet. He doesn't lift his knees when running and to get him down all the defense needs to do is blow on his shoestrings and down he goes! He's good enough and young enough to get at least a couple of good draft picks out of him. Plus, it won't be long when he'll have a weight and speed problem. Get something for him now, before he loses his value.

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NickPerry's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:28 am

Het Marco I respectfully disagree. He's been the ONLY bright spot on offense the last 2 weeks. He looks healthy, a little slimmer than a month ago, and had MM and TC kept running the ball they would have won the game.

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:10 pm

jeff janis made the play of the game!

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cheddarhead's picture

November 27, 2015 at 05:18 am

The refs also played good D with what would of been the go ahead TD. On a defense off side penalty. They shouldn't of blown it dead.

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jbromusic's picture

November 28, 2015 at 12:29 am

yes, that was TOTAL BS. it would have been a sure TD by cobb

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zoellner25's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:11 pm

We. Suck. Adams sucks. Bulaga sucks. Richard Rodgers sucks. MM and tom Clements sucks

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tm_inter's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:52 am

Adams was crap the last two games, and Rodgers kept throwing the ball to him. Rodgers had too much trust in Adams who is overrated IMO.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:21 am

We have Edgar as offensive coordinator, Clements as play caller, MM as overseer and ARod who can change the call any time he wants.

Too many cooks?

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

November 27, 2015 at 05:56 am

Weak leadership

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:52 am

Bulaga is hurt. He should't even be playing. But you are right in that the Packers are putting some bad football players on the field instead of benching them.

Adams, R Rodgers, Goodson, and Palmer have no business on the football field. Yet, they keep rolling them out there.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:48 am

Sadly true.

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Oppy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:12 pm

The best thing about tonight's game was hearing Brett Favre say the word "Crocs" on live television, not once, but twice

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Queenlizzie13's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:14 pm

Horrible. I don't even know who to pin this on. Whole team. Again.

That is all.

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:17 pm

i'll say this: it's NOT on capers and our defense!

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packerfan9507's picture

February 13, 2019 at 07:44 pm

Go Pack

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Queenlizzie13's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:42 pm

I don't blame them as much as the offense. But they gave up 3rd and long a lot when they could have gotten off the field.

Team effort was flat once again - just like the lions game.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:50 am

That's true, our D is awful on third and long. The only thing worse is our offense on third and short.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:50 am

That's for sure. Great post

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NickPerry's picture

November 27, 2015 at 07:54 am

He still can't adjust or stop 3rd and long. Why aren't our Safeties ever more of a factor in the Passing Game? Darren Perry?

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Tundraboy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:14 pm

I'm just sick over this loss. No adjustments is right.

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ray nichkee's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:15 pm

Not what I expected to see.

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KenEllis's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:15 pm

Well TT drafted Adams in the 2nd round and Rodgers in the 3rd round last year, so by God they must be good and keep feeding them.

By the way, what round was Zach Miller (the TE who caught another TD tonight) DRAFTED in by the Bears this past offseason?

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Oppy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:22 pm

Who else should they feed the ball to?

And who do you think is making the decision to throw to them?

Hint: There isn't much else to throw to, and the guy with the ball in his hands decides where the ball goes.

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KenEllis's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:23 pm

Agreed there is NOT MUCH TO THROW TO.

But let's pretend that our beloved GM is not responsible for stocking the team with a bunch of players who CANNOT be thrown to.

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Oppy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:32 pm

Yeah, because Jordy/Cobb/Adams/Montgomery/Jones is such a stable of WRs devoid of talent?

Fire Ted Thompson, that inept fool who gave us Jordy/Cobb/Adams/Montgomery/Jones.

Riiight.

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Packer_Pete's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:35 pm

Oh you can throw it to them. They just won't catch it...

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:37 pm

The Miller td looked like completely blown coverage by Palmer. Why is he on the field.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:39 pm

I thought it was on Matthews (if they were playing zone)

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Oppy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:49 pm

It looked like pre-snap Matthews was trying to tell Palmer something about the coverage before the snap of the ball, and it looked frantic.

I assumed it was Matthews being concerned about Palmer not knowing which of the bunched WRs would be his responsibility.

It looks like Matthews was right to be concerned.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:02 am

I could be wrong.

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Rossonero's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:11 am

Absolutely! Saw that too. Palmer blew it.

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NickPerry's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:32 am

Yup, he ran right in frnt and past Palmer and it was like he was stuck in cement, Palmer didn't move.

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DukeDivine's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:28 am

Stubborn loyalty thatsbthe only reason. The same reason Slowcum coached for so many years. The same reason Desmond Bishop needed 2 injuries before he saw the field. It took 1 half for all of us to see Jake Ryan was night and day better than Palmer but you know...."stay the course"

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Chris Pattee's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:56 am

Because he's "supposed" to be the MORE experienced player...

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:33 am

Palmer didn't move even though Miller flashed right in front of him. There was some kind of disconnect on that play.

But in the end it wasn't the D's fault. Overall they played well enough to win. The train wreck that is becoming this season is on the offense.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:05 am

It was zone coverage. Palmer passed Miller off to Matthews. Looked like Matthews was spying Cutler for QB draw or scramble. If that was the case, Palmer should have carried Miller. If not, Matthews was responsible for carrying Miller through the zone. Tough to say but my guess is Palmer should have run with Miller based on Matthews's posture.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:57 am

Given the routes ran just about the only useful thing for Palmer to do would be cover Miller. What he did was like playing with 10 defenders.

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Daniel Lawson's picture

November 28, 2015 at 05:37 pm

Zack Miller was a free agent who kept getting hurt in preseason and training camp

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 29, 2015 at 07:53 pm

Watched that play again:

It was a zone and it happened on the left side of the field where HHCD (wasn't manned up on Forte) & Matthews (if he wasn't spying on Cutler) were responsible for.

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:16 pm

thanks for bringing up the fact that they didn't run the ball enough. THEY COULDN'T STOP THE RUN ALL GAME!!! this kind of thing has consistently happened since mccarthy has been the head coach. one aspect of the game will work (like the run did tonight) but we will try to force something else that isn't working. it's infuriating actually! i'm curious to know just which plays clements is calling and how many plays are being changed at the line

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Chris Pattee's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:58 am

Totally totally TOTALLY!! agree.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:17 pm

WRs jogged thru their routes all game long.

Once again, too many dropped (easy) passes.

The checkdowns I seen some of you wish for are there, Rodgers just hit them at the last second and the RB or TE gets lit up the second he touches the ball.

I'm done getting caught up in the late game hype. If we're up or down by less than a field goal I'm leaving the room or changing the channel. So serious.

What else does Janis have to do (or the other WRs NOT be able to do) to get passes thrown his way?

DaVante Adams...smh...I apologize to anyone I've ever went back and forth with cosigning Adams. I seen nothing but attempted body catches and lazy routes from him.

I'm done...

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:05 am

Noticed that too about the WR's. Seems like they run right into the coverage and at times just literally stand there.

Can't count on Adams to make a big play.

DickRod is a slug.

ARod holds the ball too long.

Offense is offensive.

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tm_inter's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:07 am

Cobb, Adams, Jones are overrated: they can't get open, can't catch, drop too many balls. Cobb is overpaid!

Packers' coaches starting from MM are incompetent - they never had plan B.

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Marco's picture

November 27, 2015 at 08:04 am

Right about WR jogging through routes. Troy Aikman even commented on air a couple weeks ago in the broadcast, watching R Rogers shuffle downfield. He said, "You have to RUN!" It's hard to imagine a so called professional team performing this way.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:13 am

At our home several of us commented on the rounded cuts and slow running of the receivers.

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Nerd's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:18 pm

If this was a bad team I wouldn't mind these losses. But they're just embarrassing.

I thought the new play caller was gonna get rid of the "lulls." Like we had in the last 5:00 of last season. But now that's ALL we have.

Aaron hasn't been right since those fluke INTs v San Diego. The wheels are off, my friends.

This is what it looks like when coaches get fired.

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

November 27, 2015 at 06:04 am

MM has been a good coach. However, things are stale. Receivers halfhearted. Young players more interested in video games than game film. Time to get fresh leadership.

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Nerd's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:41 am

These WR didn't all start playing like shit suddenly in week 8. The common denominator is their QB.

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WilsonMaywick's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:41 pm

Every head coach has a "shelf life." Have to wonder if the stagnation Nagler mentions is MM reaching his expiration date? MM is a good coach but his message / vision may not resonate anymore. Something to consider.

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Packatron's picture

November 28, 2015 at 09:13 am

I agree somewhat. But if you get rid of McCarthy and you still have these subpar receivers and TEs. Is another coach going to get more than drops and slow routes out of them?

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:19 pm

Pathetic... Absolutely Pathetic.

What a freaking horrible way to end a special night.

First off they have to start making changes. WRs are not getting open. Time to make changes schematically. This has been going on for way to long.
Time to make changes with Personnel to. Adams is hurting this team.
The WR drops are absolutely killing this team.

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:24 pm

add our TE's to that list too

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Packer_Pete's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:37 pm

Perillo catches. He just is not allowed to play more than 3 snaps a game....

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:52 pm

i don't think perillo is anything special, but i do think that he's capable of making more plays than richard rodgers

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:00 am

Perillo is at least athletic enough to run the square out route he got 5-6 yards on. Richard Rodgers can barely change directions.

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Packatron's picture

November 28, 2015 at 09:16 am

That says to me that the Rodgers pick was a complete reach by TT. And it's turning into a bust. Same could be said about Adams.

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DukeDivine's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:23 am

Like Jake Ryan tackling this year and Slocum coaching 3 years too long. "Stay the course" Why change a thing?

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tm_inter's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:09 am

I agree. Bench Adams. Put Janis in his place.

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Wenis's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:21 pm

You should have been in the live chat tonight. The battle cry of "There is still plenty of clock left" was sounding the entire game right down to the bitter end.

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PackerAaron's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:29 pm

Well, there was. They were poised to win it right until the last play.

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Packer_Pete's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:39 pm

James Jones has to catch that ball. The lack of effort for most of the game from most offensive players was shocking though. One would think this is a 2-9 team without a shot at playoffs. But they are in the middle with a shot at a playoff home game....

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DoURant's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:09 am

they aren't 2-9, but they are 1-4 in there last 5, 2 losses at home to teams we have dominated. there is real concern here.

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November 27, 2015 at 12:43 pm

It is a disturbing trend line.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:36 am

Right the JJ play in the endzone has to be made. He had two hands on the ball. The receivers need to go get the ball too. Screen out the defender and come back just a little. Sloppy.

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Bearmeat's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:30 pm

It's official: the Green Bay Packers are not a Super Bowl contender this year.

For the first time in 20 years, the passing game is below average. Both ARod and the WRs have been borderline awful all year. But as bad as that is, this is principally a coaching problem. The coaches have not been able to adjust to the loss of Jordy and use the skills that the WRs on the team DO have. You CAN'T run an isolation deep-ball attack without a WR or two that can stretch the field. Cobb, Adams, and James Jones are possession WRs. And the coaching staff won't adjust the scheme accordingly or alternatively use their one WR that IS fast (Janis). Boo on all involved.

I'll still be watching the games. But what a disappointment. I guess it'll be an-anyone-but-the-pats-and-vikes type of playoffs this year

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:28 pm

Why put yourself through it Bear? The whole world can see the elephant in the room but MM can't. POC was dead on, and I don't see any changes.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:30 pm

What is sad is when they were undefeated I said I was excited because they were undefeated and we hadn't seen their best. Now I believe that was their best, and now it's going to be a long year.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:12 pm

All true. Have to face reality. Lower our expectations and hope that they play with some brains and heart the rest of the way. Playoffs at this point is our new goal. Maybe even the division. Still love this team and will hold out hope no matter what. Who knows maybe they will make the adjustments that they must.

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ray nichkee's picture

November 27, 2015 at 02:24 pm

Cow is not a queens fan right now because they got best. Now he is a bears fan.

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packerfan9507's picture

February 13, 2019 at 07:45 pm

Go Pack

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Wenis's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:27 pm

Have you heard Axl sing lately ?

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packerfan9507's picture

February 13, 2019 at 07:46 pm

Go Pack

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:53 pm

axl was never good

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Nerd's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:28 pm

Now we look to our leaders.

Then again, I've been doing that for 10 years now.

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pooch's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:36 pm

My Elvis reply was to you

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:22 pm

Oh yea!

The wasted timeout didn't hurt us this game, but why is this sh-t still happening!????!

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:32 pm

First half it did hurt us. We'll sort of. They made the FG but they could have made it easier with an extra timeout.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:43 pm

With the way the WR group were playing -- I was happy they were forced into taking the field goal.

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:23 pm

What i'm seeing is AR not being able to preform miracles and MM not being able to adjust. I'll not waste anymore time watching this shit show. To lay an egg like this on nat. tv is putrid. The only silver lining is I didn't go. I guess Janis will have to stop getting tackled after only 60 or 70 yard kick off returns. This is the slowest brick handed receiving corp I've ever witnessed. The Lions are going to kick the shit outa them next thurs. FUCK!!!!!!

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some_guy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 02:18 am

Hey remember last week when you gave me a bunch of grief because I didn't think beating the Vikes had magically cured all our problems? Yeah, how 'bout that. You go ahead and give up and stop watching. I'll be here every week with my middling expectations, endless frustration at the spread-iso, and, oh yeah, unwavering loyalty in spite of my doubts about the current on-field product.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:33 am

Beautiful post, some guy. Count me in.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:08 am

Count me in as well, but unless they show up like in Minn., the Lions will kill us.

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real some guy's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:25 pm

the receivers don't even look like they are running routes. they;re just going through motions and none of their movement seems with purpose or coordinated.

Again, its play calling and route design. Watch the patriots, then watch the packers. its night and day.

Dom has been running the same blitz the last 3 weeks. I knew it was coming on the last Bears drive and the only thing that saved them was the dropped snap by Cutler. Its so easy to predict what these coaches are going to do.

the 1 yard outs to cobb and rodgers are maddening.

Its almosts as if the coaches aren't prepared and the other team knows where to be over and over.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:30 pm

"the receivers don't even look like they are running routes. they;re just going through motions and none of their movement seems with purpose or coordinated. "

You're right.

"Again, its play calling and route design."

You're wrong. Look at what you said before that.

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WKUPackFan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 05:15 am

He had a disconnect in logic moment.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:41 am

The two sentiments are not mutually exclusive, WKU. It could be that the routes are predictable or the wrong type AND the WRs are not doing a good job running the routes that are called.

Or actually catching the ball when: the scheme gets them open; they run a nice crisp route; AR throws the ball into an incredibly tight window to overcome crappy route running and/or crappy and predictable schemes.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:27 pm

Just wondering if I'm allowed to comment or will I be put in my place by Dan Stodola as a know nothing?

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barutanseijin's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:29 pm

So what if he disagrees?

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PackerAaron's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:30 pm

Lol.

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:31 pm

POC, get your ass outa the press box and fix this shit show. You were spot on.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:40 pm

I'm dying laughing at @4thand1's comment

I get it...

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Packer_Pete's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:31 pm

Please comment Paul and don't worry what he says. All of us will be interested what you'll have to say...

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JerseyAl's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:34 pm

waiting for your comments...

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:44 pm

What is funny Paul, is so many of us fans see what the problems are. You see it, I see it, others see it. So why don't the coaches see it?

You can't repeatedly run the same sets, and same personnel groupings, and basically the same plays over and over again and expect things to change.
WRs are not getting the job done. Its time the coaches put them in better positions to succeed.

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GRB1531's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:02 pm

What happened to all the plays we used to use before Jordy went down? The offense is so predictable the defense knows where our wide outs are going. There is no deception with no play action, crossing patterns over the middle. Should the blame be on the MM ,Clements or maybe the offensive coordinator. Just a few thoughts, keep a LB that led the team in tackles on the bench, keep a wide receiver on the bench after the best offensive three plays in the past two weeks?? And by the way what was that trick play on our first possession 3rd and 2 on the 48??

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jbromusic's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:54 pm

lay it on us POC! always love reading your posts

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:39 am

We need the POC manifesto. Not that it will do any good. I don't think the Packers coaching staff comes to this site.

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Mags's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:37 am

POC I trust your opinion a hell of a lot more than some of these no nothing want to be coaches on here.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:27 pm

WRs are not playing well, but part of the problem is 12. Cutler placed the ball more accurately, carried himself with more confidence and got the job done. The other team's qb is consistently out playing

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Bearmeat's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:33 pm

Yep. And that is the most frustrating thing of all.

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cpabandit's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:39 pm

I keep seeing blame put on the receivers and coaches, but where's the blame on Aaron Rodgers? All year he's been making the opposing QB's look better than they are and better than him! How many passes have been thrown to the intended receivers ankles, or over their heads. And what's with the 1 yard dump passes? Yes, Aaron must take blame.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:54 am

Yup, ARod started out the season great. Now he looks like a bottom third of the league QB. He still makes a few amazing throws a game, but he used to do that all game long. Now I don't know what to expect.

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Packer_Pete's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:27 pm

The D was alright. They held the Bears to 17, even though giving up those constant WR screens was maddening. But the O is downright pathetic. This is a bad Bears run D. It really felt like they got 6 yards every run. So then the ball is constantly thrown in Adams direction. How anybody could think this is a NFL caliber WR, or even probowl level as Rodgers suggest, is absolutely beyond me. And once again no routes other then sending everybody downfield with vertical routes. Beyond bad play calling... the NFC is weird this year with all the many teams having 6 losses already, but to me it would now be a miracle if the Packers got into playoffs. Next week Lions will win, as they found their groove. Then the team is 7-5 and will win maybe 2 more. 9-7 is the best anyone can hope for at this point....

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:32 pm

They threw a crossing route to Cobb with a minute left. FUCK!

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GRB1531's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm

Amen! The only other crossing route was dropped by Adams

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:05 am

You know what did work. The pistol formation with Kuhn and 3 WRs. Ran about 5 plays with that look and was really productive. Then they never used it again.... Shocking.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:58 am

Like the running game the Packers abandon things that are successful too early. Now the Bears got big yards on screens and kept going to them. And they won the game.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:51 am

I agree RC and Mojo. It is almost like the coaches think that now we have shown the other team that look, and even though the look was successful lets go back to the type of plays we WANT to work rather than doing what does work. [Not sure I should have used the word almost - it does seem to be that way.]

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Idiot Fan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:28 pm

- I can't express how colossally disappointed I am in Adams this year. Not only has he not taken the leap that I expected, but when he's out there, he's like a vortex of ineffectiveness. Half the time it seems like he's mentally checked out and doesn't even turn to see the ball whiz by him. I honestly think that without just his suckage tonight, we would have won. I'm not giving up on him forever, but he needs to step it up. Coaches should start Janis over him and make him earn his playing time. That INT at the end of the game was the type of play that they probably think Janis might cause. Well, if Adams is actually causing them, let's see what Janis can do.

- I know lots of people like him, but I think Hochuli is one rung up from Jeff Tripplette. Just terrible.

- I've been slow to admit it, but this is one decidedly mediocre football team. Not terrible, not good, just very mediocre.

- I'm officially fed up with drops.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 27, 2015 at 03:35 pm

I'm not really disappointed in 17 because this year is more or less an extension of last year. He's slow and not really good at working himself open. That hasn't changed.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 27, 2015 at 03:40 pm

I'm not really disappointed in 17 because this year is more or less an extension of last year. He's slow and not really good at working himself open. That hasn't changed.

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Since'61's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:33 pm

This is the second game in the last 3 games that our offense cost us the game. Playing at home we have lost 2 games while giving up 18 or 17 points. This offense is seriously flawed. I can't understand why we didn't keep running the ball, the Bears were unable to stop Lacy or Starks. I don't know if it's Clements play calls or Rodgers checking out of the plays but there is no excuse for losing this game. I think our receiving corps is killing us. I do agree with kudos to our backups, Tretter and Barclay, who both played well filling in. Ruined an otherwise great evening seeing Brett and Bart at Lambeau again. Either Starr's Packers or Favre's Packers would have won tonight's game easily, sorry Aaron. Since '61

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ray nichkee's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:40 pm

When the defense keeps the score under 20 we are supposed to win.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 04:41 am

Since, when Aaron stops to be spoiled child and stop to cry about loss of his favorite toy, he might do something good to all WRs and TEs Packers have... And yes, I agree with you, it kills me why Packers did not try run at least once at the end of the game. They left 22 seconds on the clock!

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ollie418's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:34 pm

Zero points in 2nd half says it all, doesn't it?

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:48 pm

Funny he didn't kick the fg and try an onsides kick.

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 03:46 pm

Why would he do that? It was a one score game. In prior situations, the Packers have needed two scores to tie or win.

I don't understand this comment.
Not being snarky, I just really don't get it.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 10:19 pm

I am not sure. Maybe he feels that since we have trouble in the red zone scoring TDs, our chances of kicking a field goal, recovering an onside kick, moving the ball far enough to give Crosby another shot at making a long FG was the better option?

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pooch's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:35 pm

I dont remember Elvis singing that

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DukeDivine's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:41 pm

Nagler nails it. Inabilty to adjust is the difference between 1 ring and 3 when you have the talent for 3 at least. Fox and Zimmer are if the verge of owning the north. Time will pass Mashed Potato Mike by due to his stubborn lack of adjustments. Lacy and Starks are averaging 5 plus per carry but they still have to "stay the course" and put cobb in the back field after opening the previous drive with 3 straight passes in an empty set leaving Starks and Lacy on the bench for 2 drives. Talent is there, an inability to maximize that talent has never really been there aside from riding #12 on a magical run to a ring. I think the loyal stubbornness may screw Rodgers prime of his career. How long did it take to get rid of slocum? A microcosm of that is taking 5 weeks of brutal offense to realize screen passes may be productive... I'm thankful for Zimmer not playing press man coverage all game last week. Gary Ellerson, "Zimmer was just stupid."

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Dilahk Sivad's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:39 pm

This team is fucking lost offensively.. Can't catch, can't run routes, Aaron is WAY off and the coaching staff is lost.. Lacy and Starks killin on the ground (5+yds average) no need for Aaron to throw 40+ times in the rain.. I love this team but they have their heads up their ass #GoPackGo

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TommyG's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:40 pm

We are a pass first team whose current QB is afraid to throw, receivers don't run their routes, and the line can't block.

Lose the turnover battle lose the game. Most of the time.

The coaching staff has not adjusted to the players they have. Thisbis when guys need to get fired.

The running backs averaged more yards per play than the QB. Run the ball packers!!

Defense held on. Yes, they gave up 17 points. Wait a minute... They only gave up 17 points. That's a good game!

This is who we are. We do not have the personnel to run the scheme the coaches have implemented on offense. Either the players or the coaches need to change. Either way this season is in the bag. Any changes will have to wait until the off season.

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DukeDivine's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:44 pm

New England is way more dinged up believe it or not, but guess what happens? Adjustments!

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:56 pm

Teams are allowed to make adjustments? I thought that the offense that they installed in the offseason is what they had to run the whole season...
Hell the offense the Packers ran 3 years ago hasn't changed much. What has changed is the personnel.

The coaches need to wake up and realize they are not as good as they were then. They have to adjust their offense to its current players. Until they do that expect the same mess.

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:45 pm

The Vikings must have gotta drunk the night before the game last Sun. Either that or their film study sucks. Even mediocre defenses have figured out GB.

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DukeDivine's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:09 am

I'm thankful for lots of things today and one of them is Mike Zimmer refusing to play press man coverage on every snapnlast Sunday... They must have thought that the Packers are so bad on offense they could just show up and win. Glad the defense stepped up

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:43 pm

Lacy should have carried the ball 25 to 30 times tonight. But MM showed him, take him out after a 18 yard rumble and fumble. At least he looked like he was giving an all out effort on offense. Starks wasn't bad either. The whole league is getting bigger and faster, we get smaller and slower.

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packersbrewers's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:01 am

My gut reaction is basically this:

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/56391601.jpg

This offense is so lost, so out of sync, so flat, so uninspired, so out of touch....it's just so BAD. There is really no other way to say it.

I am beginning to wonder if Mike McCarthy has lost this team because this offense has flat out laid down on the home field and threw up the white flag. He's all whizzed up in the press conference, but dude this is your team. They are a product of you. So right, wrong, or indifferent it begins and ends with you. And right now whatever you and this "coaching" staff are doing isn't working. All your "damn drills" have produced what we saw tonight. And that is pretty much a huge giant toxic waste dump.

I don't think it's an easy fix, but MM needs to do something because this team is circling the drain.

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November 26, 2015 at 11:48 pm

Honest to God, I support my team to the end, but this game was PATHETIC. I was so depressed with their performance all night.
You know, I was holding out for the win. Less than three minutes left, and we have the ball. We make beautiful plays....then we throw the ball 4 TIMES.....FOUR! FIRST AND FREAKING GOAL...AND WE THROW THE BALL.
Lacy has a 6.2 average and Starks has a 5.6 and was damn near unstoppable all game...yeah lets throw the ball...makes complete sense.
I miss Jordy too, but we have a strong team, apparently the coaches refuse to adapt to not having him.
All in all...awful performance Packers... shake my head.

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:03 am

The reason they threw the ball 4 times on first and freaking goal, was because the Packers were 8 yards out, had only 51 seconds on the clock left, and zero timeouts.

You could argue they could have tried a run, but you are really gambling with valuable clock when you consider the time it takes to execute the play, get your guys up off the field and back to the line of scrimmage, all with the clock running.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:10 am

51 seconds would have allowed plenty of time for a least one running play. If you fool em and pick up lets say only 5 yards, it makes it much more likely ARod could scramble in later on a broken pass play. But who knows what would have happened anyway. Still I think they would have had time to mix a run in there.

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Tundraboy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:23 am

Absolutely. As it was Rodgers had a chance to run it in or get close.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 04:47 am

Packer left 22 second on the clock when 4th pass was made... I think 1 run would be enough to score... And, they had penalty and clock stopped, so they could change the personal.. No excuse for that!

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

November 27, 2015 at 03:13 pm

Oppy, I happen to agree with you on this one. Nothing wrong with the 4 pass plays. If you run and fumble then what? Did any of you guy's ever play football in that kind of weather. Any team could have looked like shit. Do you think the Bears looked Great?

Like I told you a week ago. I got up this morning, walked outside, & looked up. The Nevada sky is just as Blue as ever. It's still up there. It hasn't fallen. Last I looked GB was 1 game behind Minnesota & possibly tied for the division lead. I told you to wait 3 weeks, for now put the fork back in the drawer.

I'm not happy with a number of players performances, but you cannot judge anyone's performance in weather like that. It's always been, and always will be an equalizer.

Things look fine to me. So Vegas made a few bucks again, So What? GB is still WELL in this thing. We are still the same team that was 6 - 0. If you want to blame someone for last nights loss, blame the Weatherman. We were running pretty well, but Lacy's fumble killed us. The passing game has a bigger advantage in the slop, we just didn't put it together.

Settle down, & wait a few more weeks. The season is a long way from being over. For what it's worth?, It's going the way I want it to go. It's going to hurt along the way, but if we make the playoffs without being a Division Champ, we'll have a much better chance at making a run.LVT

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 03:49 pm

LVT, we'll never agree on gambling and how it affects (or doesn't affect) football outcomes, but that doesn't mean we can't talk football.

In general, I guess successful gamblers- and investors, or CEOs, or NFL Coaches- don't knee jerk on the blips, they look at the larger picture.. and they also all realize that you win some, you lose some, you take your lumps and move on.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

November 27, 2015 at 04:41 pm

Oppy, That's fine. I wouldn't expect to convince you. Haven't you wondered why GB loses to Detroit at Lambeau, then goes to Minn & wins, & comes back to Lambeau & loses to Chicago? In each case the $$$ was on the loser. That peaked my interest a long time ago. It amazes me that more people can't see it.

I hope I'm right on how I see this season going. It's a Longshot, but in the NFL everyweek it's Longshots, & I've hit a lot of them. If I turn out to be right, you'll be the 1st person I post to.

In the mean time I'm more than capable of talking football without the influence of gambling. I try to get along with everyone here, whether they agree with me or not. LVT

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Pack204's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:49 pm

Everyone on offensive unit and staff is to blame for this.

Since Jordy went down there has been no threat of a back shoulder throw or almost no timing patterns. I think they relied on that throw a lot in key situations. I am disappointed they have done nothing creative with the formations or route combinations to free up plays over the middle.

I used to give the benefit of the doubt with regards to keeping the same coaching staff but this team will never return to an elite level like in 2010-2011 with this coaching staff in place.

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4thand1's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:55 pm

Needed to vent, now I'm going to kick the dog and go to bed. Glad I ate at 1 today cause the shitter would have been full of turkey and stuffing. Fundamentals my aching fucking ass. Sleep well all.............later.
P.S. I apologize for the salty language.

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packersbrewers's picture

November 26, 2015 at 11:58 pm

Don't kick the dog. Go kick the offense or even just Mike instead. We'll take up collections to bail you out.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 04:48 am

Dog is not guilty. You are bad....

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:06 am

I would issue a pardon for 4ths dog too, because the dog is not guilty.

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4thand1's picture

November 28, 2015 at 03:08 pm

My dog is friggin nuts.

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Djschuett's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:00 am

Good points all around Aaron! Crappy performance all around.
Would be nice if Peppers would either start showing up or give back his paycheck so we can resign Daniels.
I think McCarthy needs to take back the playacting, but I'm just an idiot drinking beer on my couch.

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November 27, 2015 at 12:08 am

A few more comments before I go try to sleep.

This team doesn't go from top 5 with Jordy to bottom 5 without Jordy. There is more wrong with this team then simply not having Jordy Nelson. (Not having him hurts for sure. It just shouldn't be this mind blowing.)

Rodgers and his receivers aren't even in the same book let alone on the same page and there is very little reason why this should be still happening. It's week 12. There shouldn't be this much disarray at this point of the season. There is something fundamentally wrong with this team.

I'm starting to wonder exactly where this team is fundamentally broken and deficient-talent or coaching or a toxic combo of both.

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November 27, 2015 at 12:16 am

the communication has gotten worse as the season has gone on. WORSE. there is no reason that this should be happening.

The receivers and 12 are not on the same page, let alone the same galaxy.

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jh9's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:08 am

And the worst part is; Jay Cutler beat us.

I feel like I've been kicked in the nuts by a guy with two broken legs!

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:14 am

Lol, it was disgusting to see Cutler in front of the post-game turkey buffet.

Worse yet I was looking forward to the Pack taking the all-time series lead next year. Now it will take at least two more years.

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:10 am

Man, i just hope that you guys don't get what you want and run MM out of town over a rough season.

He's one of the top coaches in the league.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:17 am

Don't worry Oppy, the Packers brass don't care what we think. MM is safe.

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:20 am

That's true, Mojo, and it's hilarious when fans make statements like yours, as if it's a horrible thing.

They shouldn't make decisions based on what fans think. We wouldn't have Aaron Rodgers right now if they did. We probably wouldn't have Clay Matthews, Jordy Nelson.... We almost certainly wouldn't have that 2010 superbowl trophy, either.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:18 am

No way he's going anywhere while Rodgers is a Packer.

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cuphound's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:20 pm

Dunno, Oppy. Dunno. I used to assail McCarthy weekly. After 2010, I shut up. But he keeps showing the same problems. The level of frustration can be unreal.

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Brewcity's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:18 am

When are we going to question MM for combining the coaching positions of QB coach and WR coach and giving them both to Alex Van Pelt?

Maybe he isn't doing a very good job with these WR? Do they look like a group that knows what they're doing?

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:21 am

I've never been in on any of the meetings, but I'm confident they don't teach the WRs to half-ass run their routes or jog right into the defender, turn around and just to watch the QB.

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Brewcity's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:36 am

Maybe but Edgar Bennett did a good job with the WR from 2011-2015. The Van Pelt WR corps has not been good.

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barutanseijin's picture

November 27, 2015 at 07:14 am

Rodgers looks terrible, too. Who's coaching him?

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Brewcity's picture

November 27, 2015 at 08:32 am

Alex Van Pelt is officially both the QB and WR coach. Where it gets confusing is that it seems as though Clements is play calling and functionally acting as the QB coach. Then you have Edgar Bennett, recent WR coach now the offensive coordinator.

It's at best an ambiguous structure. If I'm being cynical, I think Rodgers and MM had enough of each other in the play calling over the past years, culminating in the frustration of the NFC Championship loss last year.

MM suddenly turning over play calling to Clements, Rodgers "guy", I wonder if that was his way of saying, in part, "hey 12 you think you're so smart, you run the offense."

MM has to allow them to admit their failure before he can step back in and help. I think he knows he lost Rodgers respect and this is part of the process to get Rodgers to believe/buy-in to MM as a coach again. Both those guys have huge egos and this is their feud playing out.

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:36 am

I've wondered the same thing about the Rodgers-MM dynamic.

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J0hn Denver's Gavel's picture

November 29, 2015 at 12:48 am

That's one helluva conspiracy theory. It really could be true. You'd think MM would end this little experiment sooner though if true?? Wasn't this switch a TT move?

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Oppy's picture

November 27, 2015 at 11:24 am

Brewcity, this is a great question, and one I'm surprised hasn't come up before.

After all, it IS the two positions that are struggling, and aren't on the same page.

Funny thing is, the move was based on partially on an Aaron Rodgers suggestion. It makes sense on paper- why have QBs and WRs meet separately, then meet again together and try to get on the same page? Put them in one room, and make sure everything meshes from the get go.

This is a really interesting angle, and it makes a lot of sense. Maybe there's too much information being exchanged between the two positions, and it's leading to overload.

However, you'd think that would show up in practice every week, and it doesn't sound like it is.

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Rossonero's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:20 am

Before this game on the "5 reasons the Packers will win and one reason they may not" article, I said the Packers needed to run the football. They did -- but not enough.

Why does Rodgers have to chuck it 43 times in a downpour when Lacy and Starks are each averaging over 5 yards per carry? We were not getting blown out, yet we didn't keep pounding the ball down the Bears' 25th ranked rushing defense.

I don't know the answer, but what I do know, is we've lost 4 out of our last 5. Whatever we are doing is not working.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:11 am

Removed this comment myself because it was in poor taste. Sorry about that.

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Rossonero's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:23 am

About a year ago, the Packers dropped 42 on the Bears by halftime. Now all they can muster is a measly 13 pts, with nothing in the second half? Jordy Nelson's absence hurts, but it goes deeper than that. Cris collinsworth made an interesting comment about Aaron Rodgers questioning some of his teammates' preparation (namely the WRs). What's up with that?

From the o-line to the running game, this team has underachieved no matter how times the defense puts the ball in their hands. Packers will be lucky if they get a wild card spot. They face the lions, cowboys, Raiders, cardinals and vikings while the Bears have the niners, redskins, vikings, bucs and lions. Advantage: Bears.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:30 am

"Cris collinsworth made an interesting comment about Aaron Rodgers questioning some of his teammates' preparation (namely the WRs). What's up with that? "

If that is accurate -- it REALLY shows! I wish we all could look at the game film. The routes the WRs ran were lackadaisical.

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Queenlizzie13's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:31 am

WRs prep has been crap. They aren't running good routes, which means they likely aren't studying the film enough to run better routes. The times they do get open, they seem almost surprised and drop the ball.

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Mojo's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:25 am

Can't give Bear fans an satisfaction.

Way to go Bears - winning and all and screwing up your draft position for next year.

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Rossonero's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:32 am

As much as I despise the Bears, they have some good young talent that was on display tonight. The DB Callahan was flying around, the linebacker Anderson was involved in a lot of plays and jeremy Langford looks like a perfect replacement for Forte.

I'm wondering if they'll resign Shea McClellan. The Packers were supposedly interested in drafting him back in 2012. He'd be an upgrade over Palmer.

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FITZCORE1252's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:32 am

Love my Pack, but Fuck this team. They don't care, why should i (even though i do). Fuck Adams, Fuck Masthay., Fuck the stubborn coaches.. Fuck this team... its like they are indifferent.

I'll be watching next week, and the week after that... but Fuck this team. How are you so lackadaisical on such an important night? Fuck em all. Fucking piss poor effort, i thought we had some professionals on the squad.

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Rossonero's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:33 am

Agreed tonight was an embarrassment.

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Brewcity's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:37 am

Notably absent from Naglers comments was "I love this team" remark.

For obvious reason.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:41 am

I'd have to disagree with Aaron on the lack of adjustments by Capers. They were more effective in pressure looks. Cutler are them up on soft zone looks with short dig routes to the middle of the field on crucial 3rd downs. Yet the defense did its job. Yards mean nothing in the aggregate. If they did, the Packers should have won.

Bears played a nice mix of coverage and pressure. Played some coverage looks against the 2 back looks. Made it difficult to run the Dragon concept (slant/flat). It was also made tough seeing as how that has become the go to quick concept 2 weeks in a row. Was pretty easy to diagnose from the 2 back looks out of 12 personnel. Most sets were static. Checkdowns were available from time to time and Rodgers hit a few. The offense doesn't layer the defense though and this has been a problem for the Packet offense. Play-action should have been a larger part off the passing scheme and it wasn't. Probably because of the early mishaps. The glaring weakness of the PA pass game for Green Bay is that it was boom or bust. It's always been this way. Instead of the deep shot plays some Fox2/3 so Aaron could keep his eyes downfield instead of booting out with his back turned looking for the deep post or deep dig. Also, middle of the field was open again. No TE shallows or Hanks to the middle of the field. Very few bunch sets.

The one element the Packers are missing is a 3rd down back. Not sure if this is Thompson's doing or done at the behest of McCarthy's vision. McCarthy mentioned in his presser that adjustments would be made but the media wouldn't be able to tell. Guessing the adjustments will come in the form of personnel. They should come from both approach and personnel but I won't hold my breath for the former. Riddle me this: how can McCarthy have such a quick hook with Lacy, who at the very least, was the most productive offensive player despite the fumble and yet continue with Adams who hasn't produced? I'm not in the Janis for HOF fan club but doesn't he at least deserve a legitimate shot? Can he drop the ball just as easy as Adams?

Aaron makes an interesting point about McCarthy in relation to the 10 year mark and stale message. Coach Walsh believed 10 years was the most any coach could stay before the message became stale. Now, coach Walsh left for other reasons and Belichick seems to reinvent himself each season but those seem to be the exceptions. Not calling for his ouster as changes can still happen but time is running out fast. What I do know is that outside of 2 games this season the defense has played well enough for this team to win and compete for a championship. It's going to be hard to call for Dom's head at the end of this season should the defense keep games close for the offense lead by the reigning MVP and by some who consider him one of the best head coaches in the NFL.

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RCPackerFan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 01:05 am

The more I look at it, this offense that they are currently running was built for veteran players. Players that have been in the offense for a long time and know how to adjust their routes per what the defense is doing. The biggest problem right now is our WRs are not experienced enough to handle that. They don't see the game the same way Rodgers sees it. They have the talent but to me it looks like they are thinking to much versus just playing.

My simplest solution is the coaches have to adjust what they are doing to the players they have. Go to a less read and react. They need to have the WRs run routes and not base it on what the DB is doing. I think if they know what they are supposed to be doing then they will better. They will play faster and will make more plays.
It seems like there is a major disconnect between Rodgers and his WRs. Perhaps if they lessen the load on the WRs they will play faster, and even get on the same page with Rodgers.

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Spiderpack's picture

November 27, 2015 at 08:56 am

Nailed it.

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November 27, 2015 at 11:16 am

RC, you are on fire in these comments. Nailed it indeed! I agreed with every part of POC´s comment that I was able to translate, as well.

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croatpackfan's picture

November 27, 2015 at 05:00 am

That was really excellent insight. I'm not on Janis train, but, yes, Adams looks terrible. Why he is not replaced I do not know. I suggested to replace Aaron Rodgers for game or two with Scott. We lost those 2 games anyhow, with Aaron playing the worst games of his career... I think Adams is on the field because Aaron Rodgers is trying to make from him another Jordy. He acts like spoiled chiled when that child lose his favorite toy. Scott offense would be simpler, easier for most of the WRs corps to play. And Janis will be included in the rotation. And I bet any of you, Scott can score more points with this offense than Aaron at the moment!

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LeagueObsrvr's picture

November 27, 2015 at 09:31 pm

When you mentioned the Packers need for a third down back, it brought me back to the Packers interesting decision to cut Rajion Neal in the final cuts of pre-season. I was quite surprised they let him go, as he consistently showed reliable hands as a receiver and would've been ideal as a third-down back.

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denniseckersley's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:45 am

Shame on this team for ruining this night. Unforgivable what they have done the last two home games.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:46 am

I'm calling it now:

Once Ty gets back this Offense will look totally different. Things will click and the Offense will look more like the Pack we are used to.

I also believe a healthy Quarless will cause Richard Rodger's snaps to fall quite a bit.

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FITZCORE1252's picture

November 27, 2015 at 12:52 am

Ty isn't the answer. Nice young player, who will help, but hes not the fix-all.

This offense is broken.

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November 27, 2015 at 01:42 am

I'm not saying Ty will be the go-to guy but what he brings to the offense is significant and Rodgers seemed to be really comfortable with him.

Ty has made splash plays from inside,outside and the backfield. No other player on this team has done that this season.

With Quarless, his speed alone should force defenses to adjust when split out wide. With Rodgers, defenses can put ANYBODY on him and be certain no big play will happen. We know Quarless is faster,more athletic and is a better blocker. All of that equals more options in play calling.

Again, this is not saying these guys are elite players, but every team needs role players (X Factors) and these guys can be different makers.

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November 27, 2015 at 12:53 am

And Q is JAG. Epitome of JAG.

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