Gut Reactions: Week 1 vs Chicago

Aaron's gut reactions from the Packers win over the Bears.

  • Clay Matthews. What a play. 
  • I'm really looking forward to seeing how deep and talented the Giants wide receiving corps is that they let James Jones go. 
  • I mean, it's like he never left. 
  • Randall Cobb had a bit of a quiet day, but loved how they used him on those plays in the flat vs pressure. And of course, his boss touchdown catch. 
  • This game played out about how I thought it would, Close in the first half, with a Jay Cutler turnover letting the Packers pull away in the second half. 
  • Clinton Dix's nasty habit of ducking his head when he tackles was on full display. 
  • The Bears took advantage of the Packers 2 man line in nickel and Nate Palmer playing for an injured Barrington. 
  • Cutler kept taking the play clock down to the last possible second and the Green Bay defense remained static most of the time. I thought Dom needed to adjust by having the defense hold and then switch at the last possible second. But to his credit, Capers made a great call on the Matthews interception. That play completely snowed Cutler. 
  • Sam Shields. What the hell was that? All of it. 
  • The penalties. My god, the penalties. 
  • I love watching Packers fans freak out on Twitter after one half of football. A tradition unlike any other. 
  • Eddie Lacy was patient and got his yards despite not having a great deal to work with by way of holes to run through. 
  • How about Ty Montgomery? And if I'm going to talk junk about Ron Zook in preseason, I have to give him props - he had some creative blocking schemes that helped the rookie returner. 
  • Always good to beat the Bears. 
  • 1-0 feels so good. Time to get ready for the 0-1 Seahawks. 
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Beep's picture

September 13, 2015 at 03:59 pm

Defense needs to find a way to get off the field. That's not going to cut it against Seattle. Lots of no shows on D today.

Pleased with ST. Let's hope Zook set this game as the standard for ST.

JJ made his league min salary this week alone.

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Nerd's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:55 pm

This team plays to the level of its opponents.

But this many mental errors is not gonna get us anywhere.

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HankScorpio's picture

September 13, 2015 at 07:10 pm

There certainly was a lot of sloppy play. The penalties have not been an ongoing issue. The missed tackles have been. I hope McCarthy's new role on gameday leads to a greater emphasis on defensive fundamentals.

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EdsLaces's picture

September 13, 2015 at 03:53 pm

Welcome back JJ!!!! Peppers gets better with age ....wow Shields you are an idiot.

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:13 pm

Peppers was awesome, but he seemed gassed at the end of the game.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:17 pm

Too many snaps of Peppers. Hand his hand in the dirt too much as well.

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vj_ostrowski's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:44 am

I agree on too many snaps.

FWIW, Peppers started getting doubled after the drive where he power-bombed Forte and then sacked Cutler and almost stripped him. Not that he shouldn't have had an impact when he WASN'T being doubled, but it's worth pointing out that they gave him extra attention immediately after that.

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Bearmeat's picture

September 13, 2015 at 03:54 pm

Capers got owned by Gase. Except one play. The deciding play. That said, if that crap Bears OL can play keep away and rush for 150, I expect Lynch to own next Sunday. It was like the offense was barely on the field. Oh wait, that's because they were barely on the field.

Run defense has to get better or it's going to be a long season.

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Portland Mark's picture

September 13, 2015 at 09:32 pm

Question for Gase: "With they way your team was running the ball, why did you pass three times from the Packer two yard line?" Gase: Because it worked so well for Seattle in the Super Bowl." Thank you Gase, Thank you Cutler.

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packerfan9507's picture

September 13, 2015 at 03:58 pm

Very reminiscent of the 2010 opener vs. the Eagles where they just did enough to eek out a win.

The defense has a lot to "clean up" but it wasn't an awful performance considering that their starting S and two DL were inactive/suspended/members of the lollipop guild. Okay it was awful but you know what I mean.

It shouldn't have been as close as it was and it wouldn't have been if Sean Richardson doesn't leave a gap unfilled in the 1Q and the refs don't botch that phantom holding call on the glorious Rodgers touchdown.

A win is a win.

1-0 #GoPack

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:04 pm

I'm telling myself that a healthy Burnett makes a big difference on D.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 13, 2015 at 07:13 pm

Me too.

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CH Pack Fan's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:13 pm

There is some precedent for that assertion. See Saints game last year that Burnett missed. That said, the problems stopping run seemed deeper than that today.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:18 pm

Guion will help the run Defense. Datone probably wouldn't. I did not see Pennel at DE - did I miss that?

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Bohj's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:24 pm

Give Datone a break man. The guy had a bum ankle for an entire season. Year three for DEs is the breakout season. Just like Daniels. Have some optimism for the young dude. We need him.

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Oppy's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:49 pm

I saw Pennel in on about 5-6 snaps early, he racked up two tackles around the LOS in his first 3 snaps, but also jetted straight for Cutler on one of those snaps not realizing Forte had the ball and gave up a big bears gain.

Looked like his first snap (and tackle) came at NT, but then he was playing end.

I did not notice him playing after the first series, I don't know if he blew another assignment and they benched him, if he got injured, or if the coaches felt someone else was outplaying him.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:00 pm

Pennel had NO stats. No tackles no assisted tackles. Nothing! Don't think you were watching the same game I was.

Daniels no tackles. One assisted tackle. No other stats.

Raji 2 tackles, 2 assisted tackles. .5 sacks.

Like I mentioned ealier, Pennel was terribe, Daniels was a no show. Raji played very well.

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Oppy's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:46 pm

I saw Pennel was credited with zero tackles, and I can tell youI'm fairly certain that is not correct. If anyone has the game on DVR, and feels like watching it again..I believe it is the first series Pennel makes two tackles in the first three or so snaps, and then (from the end postion), b-lines for cutler not realizing Forte had taken the ball to the inside, where he then bounces it out to the right end (where Pennel no longer is..)

Mike Pennel is our only defensive lineman wearing a number in the 60's, correct? I'm almost 100% 64 came up with two tackles at the LOS within 3 snaps.

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WKUPackFan's picture

September 13, 2015 at 11:43 pm

Pennel is indeed the only DL in the 60s and, at the risk of being responded to as rudely as you were, I saw the same things you did.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 14, 2015 at 12:06 am

Thanks for the update. I got home late and missed most of Chicago's opening drive. I looked for Pennel in vain.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 14, 2015 at 11:33 am

vj_ostrowski says:
September 14, 2015 at 08:01 am
"No. No. Just no. That's just factually incorrect, and leads me to believe that you did not watch the game more than once. I watched it three times and I can tell you that Raji not only outperformed the other defensive linemen, he did so by leaps and bounds."

I just went off what I saw and the stats. No stats for Pennel of any kind. Had a nice preseason, but apparently he wasn't doing something right and got benched.

Ask VJ for what he saw in particular of Pennel.

BTW I remember one early run by Forte up the middle. Raji at NT and Pennel at DE. Raji stoned the OL blocking him and Forte but didn't have him on the ground yet. But stopped. Pennel came from his DE and helped pull Forte to the ground. That apparently was credited only to Raji, correctly IMO, since he had it stopped and bringing Forte down when Pennel arrived.

Maybe your trying to give Pennel credit for that, but it wasn't he who made the stop.

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EdsLaces's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:23 pm

I was at that game ...woodson threw my wife his gloves afterwards. Bada$$....

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Bohj's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:07 pm

- It was difficult to watch the game because of all of the fan duel and draft king commercials. Cut it out......good lord. There is a such thing as overkill.
- All of our short yardage plays are on point.
- When we're not killing them with penalties.
- I thought our D would play a little better today. With that being said....the Bears had a good plan coming in. I predicted dink and dunk to reign in Cutler. They sure did. Forte is still Forte. I'm okay with the yards there. They'll gel a bit better as time goes on.
- Hope we don't lose Barrington for too long. Maybe not so much for production as for his role on defensive playcall and adjustments.
- Will never be disappointed with a road win against a division team, no matter how many people bitch about run defense.
- How awesome is it that we have the chance to send the Seahawks to 0-2?

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Fridge's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:42 pm

Funny thing is, a group I watch the game with made a game out of the draft kings/Fan duel commercials. There were exactly 7 during the first half and 2 in the second. My bet was 22 total, darn it!
-Bring on the Seahawks at Lambeau!

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Chad Lundberg's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:07 pm

This team was rusty. RUSTY RUSTY RUSTY!!! But despite that, for once, we walked away with a win instead of a loss. This team will work the kinks out like it does every year, and by game 5 should be in full swing.

The second best thing to happen today was the Seahacks losing! Their tears gives me strength!!!

Was I right or was I right about James Jones!!!???

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Chad Lundberg's picture

September 13, 2015 at 11:58 pm

How the hell do I have 9 dislikes??? Did I say something wrong?

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Bohj's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:25 pm

You don't.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:59 pm

You can never say you were right about something. Surest way to get a bunch of dislikes. I know... I get it all the time.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:34 pm

It wasn't about tootin my own horn, just saying that James Jones had a really good day and that signing him was a brilliant move. He keeps this up then we'll miss Jordy just a little less.

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Flow49's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:18 pm

With you on James Jones!! Threw in a like to help you out.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:34 pm

Thanks bro!

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:30 pm

You're right. But disliking it is a funny novelty for us now! You're alright by me Chad!

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NickPerry's picture

September 13, 2015 at 10:06 pm

Personally I think you hit it on the head. The starters didn't play much the entire preseason and it showed, especially on defense. Hell at least I HOPE it's rust!!

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KenEllis's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:08 pm

ARod remains the best in the business.

James Jones was a great addition.

Lacy and the OLine were very good (against a bad D).

Montgomery was excellent on returns.

The D has a long, long way to go. Hope Guion, D. Jones & Burnett make a big difference.

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Idiot Fan's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:11 pm

[MM, being able to watch the game for the first time]: "Holy crap, my defense is not good..."

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HankScorpio's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:55 pm

"And why are we such a poor tackling team?"

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:03 pm

Amazing what you see when your face isn't buried in the clipboard...Or a pile of Mashed Potatoes! #mashedpotatomike

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:33 pm

It's a joke,,,I don't serious bite the hand that feeds consistent success. Lighten up...Besides the alliteration of Tinkering Ted and Mashed Potato Mike is priceless. I love you all! 1-0!

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vj_ostrowski's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:46 am

He does kind of look like a pile of mashed potatoes with his shaved face. Preferred Grizzly Adams McCarthy.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:15 pm

Pretty annoying the HaHa did nothing to imrove on his galring weakness during the offseason. Even more so that Daren Perry allows it to happen.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:25 pm

I've been on Perry for a couple of years but I always had to admit that TT arguably didn't give him much to work with other than a talented Burnett. His best results are probably Banjo, and up and down Burnett who finally turned the corner in year 5. Now he has a talent in Dix. Time will tell. Can't physically force Dix to wrap up.

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Farts_After_Wins's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:22 pm

*poot*

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BubbaOne's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:19 pm

"I can tackle, HaHa" Clinton Dix

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Justin Ritzel's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:21 pm

You cant be too pleased with the defense's performance, but it is important to remember they were missing a few critical bodies. Having Guion, D. Jones, and Burnett will help matters.

Yes, Chicago moved the ball and it was frustrating to see Rodgers on the sideline so much, but the important thing is that the red zone defense was good.

Boy did I miss seeing Rodgers at 100%. Still makes you wonder what could've been if not for that damn calf.

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HankScorpio's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:57 pm

Red zone defense was indeed a bright spot in an otherwise poor showing on defense.

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johngalt's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:21 pm

Back half can't tackle. Shields should not be on the field unless it's 3rd down. That said-Aaron stayed clean- That'll be a tall task next week. Offense will need to stay on the gas. If they do-Seattle will go 0-2.

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Clay the 1st's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:26 pm

1) Mike Daniels wants 10 million dollars per year. Did he play today? (I jest)

2) Bring on the Raji > Knighton advocates. He is what he is...not good. As Raji said, "We will know if we can stop the run very soon." Yes we will B.J. Yes we will.

3) Ha Ha got his jock handed to him by Cutler?

4) I think the secondary has good potential and they will need every bit of it.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:02 pm

I strongly favored signing Knighton. I am surprised though that you and Aaron (who knows a thing or two) would point to Raji. All the damage came from the edges. I thought Raji looked okay. I thought Palmer was up and down, but showed why he beat out Ryan, Bradford, etc. Dix lost to Cutler, Bennett in run defense, missed another tackle, as did Shields a few times.

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Clay the 1st's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:19 pm

Reynoldo you are right I am scapegoating Raji a bit. The case on him isn't closed yet. I do see Raji had two tackles and two tackle assists plus a half sack. At that pace he will better than he has been.

I will continue to pray I am wrong about him and that he makes an impact.

The runs to the edge were atrocious. I still have to think that the core D line is part of that.

What a mess.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:05 pm

Raji actually played NT quite well today. Shared a sack and held the point of attack. Its not the NT fault that LB didn't hold the edge and continuously allowed Forte to get outside. Pennel blew a couple run plays that allowed Forte about 30-35 yds.

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Clay the 1st's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:21 pm

Point taken. I hope he continues to make an impact.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:02 pm

Raji was the only DL that showed up today.

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marpag1's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:30 pm

Pennel was terrible today. I've never been a big Pennel fan, but I was somewhat encouraged during camp that maybe he had taken a jump during the off season. My optimism might be a bit premature, it seems.

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NewNikeShoes's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:08 pm

he's playing DE tho.
He's like Raji, he sucks bullocks at DE
their bodies are made for NT or DT

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:10 pm

Pennel at 6'4 and longer arms is MUCH better suited at DE than Raji ever was. But both are NT and pretty much NT only.

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marpag1's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:16 pm

That could very well be. But for whatever the reason, it seemed pretty clear that the edge was anchored by little more than a steaming pile of crap.

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JerseyAl's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:49 pm

Agree - when Forte did his damage it was when there was nothing in the middle so he angled to the outside. There was nothing in the middle because Raji was holding his ground.

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real some guy's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:27 pm

Good Post Aaron

Dome Capers getting outcoached all game: what a shock. Kudos to Gase for a very solid game plan.

a couple of the penalties were classic "keep the game close". What a crap holding call on Bahk.

We were fortunate today. Some really tough catches to keep drives alive. The Bears caught a few breaks as well and could easily have stolen this one.

the packers drafted Rollins and Randall because they know they have to get rid of shields. He's soft and unreliable.

now draft a few more linebackers. IT would also be a really good idea to deep into FA for a linebacker. what a mess

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dobber's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:34 pm

When they handed Shields that big contract, I posted that I was worried that he might become a bit of a fat cat. Hasn't been the same player since.

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SpudRapids's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:07 pm

This had nothing to do with Capers calls, how many missed tackles resulted in gains. I though Dom called a good game guys just have to execute. Also, keep in the Bears offense was an unscouted look as you can't trust preseason.

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WKUPackFan's picture

September 13, 2015 at 11:54 pm

Aikman said the same thing.

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Since'61's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:32 pm

A win is a win, so I'll take it. But the defense needs a lot of work.
1. Defense still can't tackle.
2. Pennel was invisible after the first series.
3. Is Sam Shields becoming the new Brad Jones with the penalties and missed tackles?
4. Leave Dix alone with the tackling dummies until he gets it right.
5. Barrington is not an answer at ILB.

I know it's just the first game but we can't win with a defense like we saw today. The Bears had one player on offense today, Forte, and we had trouble stopping him all day. The Bears offense wasn't one dimensional it was one person. What happens when we play an offense with 2 good players?

Special Teams did well. Montgomery looking good on the KO returns.
Rodgers and the offense are going to be fine without Jordy. On to the Seachickens. Thanks, Since '61

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Justin Ritzel's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:51 pm

To be fair, it was a defense that was basically missing three starters + a solid d-lineman off the bench. Barrington got hurt, so saying he "isnt the answer" is probably a little off-base today.

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Since'61's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:56 pm

To be even more fair it was a Chicago OL playing without 2 starters and a guard moved over to play tackle and a backup playing guard for the guy who moved to tackle. Plus neither Giuon or Jones are legitmate NFL starters. Before Barrington was hurt he looked awful. No excuses. If this defense doesn't improve against the run better teams will be able to keep Rodgers off the field and outscore us. Thanks, Since '61

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Justin Ritzel's picture

September 15, 2015 at 11:34 pm

The run defense was terrible last year....were the Packers outscored very often in 2014?

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PaulRosik's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:06 pm

Without Nelson there may be less 60 yard explosion plays and they will have to drive the ball for scores. But this is still an offense you expect to do that.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:14 pm

Pennel invisible after the 1st series, probably had a lot to do w/ the fact he blew 2 plays (I assume you call that visible) very early in the game that allowed Forte to gain 30+ yds.

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:39 pm

Barrington had one series before his ankle injury... Where were you? Disqualified comment! Palmer played OK, didn't win it or lose it in the middle. As far as Palmer is concerned, why in the hell is a LB coming off a broke hand on the hands team?? Yet Zook's crew executed all day!!

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BubbaOne's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:32 pm

To rub it in to Bear fans I wish Clay at the end of the interception play would have done "the Raji".

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marpag1's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:53 pm

Cobb had a nice TD grab, but he's definitely not right. 38 yards total, nothing longer than 10 yards and not a bit of splash. The Packers need him healthy.

I do think that the return of Guion, Burnett and Jones will help, but their absence doesn't nearly excuse as many sins as the Packers committed against the run. (And don't blame Barrington's absence too much. I don't think he's good enough to make that much of a difference).

The Packers offensive output was poor in terms of total yards, and they were badly outgained by a fairly pedestrian team. That needs to improve.

It's nice to think that a Packers kick off return might occasionally venture outside of their own 20. I could get used to that.

Offsides on a chip-shot field goal is inexcusable.

Are we still saying that Packers/Bears is not "a rivalry?"

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:40 pm

When Cobb gets healthy its going to be awesome! Def not right. His 70% was quietly productive

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lucky953's picture

September 13, 2015 at 10:34 pm

I think they deliberately protected him. Cobb ran no routes across the middle that I recall. Good game plan to use him mostly as a decoy, then use his quickness to the outside when they really needed to pick up crucial yards.

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Oppy's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:46 pm

It looked to me like the Bears took advantage of Sam Barrington until Nate Palmer replaced him.

Barrington is JAG to me, one who gets completely lost if he has to cover.

I thought Palmer actually looked better than Barrignton, for whatever that's worth.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:17 pm

I thought and have believed Palmer would acquit himself nicely. He sure seemed to do just that today. Barrington is decent, but its not a stretch to think Palmer and Ryan surpass him next offseason.

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JerseyAl's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:51 pm

Palmer is eons better in coverage than Barrington, against the run, the one thing holding Palmer back is the ability to get off of blocks. He gets swallowed up at times. Barrington is better there. I've been calling for Palmer to replace SB in obvious passing situations.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:09 pm

Hard to judge Palmer getting off block in the preseason w/ a club cast on one hand. Palmer should be better getting off blocks now that he has his hands. He's got long arms too so that should help w/ some teaching.

It wouldn't surprise me if Palmer and Ryan take over at ILB next season.

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:43 pm

If the full onslot of big boys eat up blocks after the suspensions the speed of Palms and Ryan in the middle could be huge.

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jh9's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:30 pm

I agree JA. But here's the rub... Although Palmer is better in coverage, he lacks the instincts of an effective run-stopping ILB. In fact, the only LB who played the run worth a damn today was Matthews. The Packers are making a huge mistake if they think they can keep converting OLBers to ILBers.

Today was a perfect example of how that will work out. Perry, Elliott, and Palmer all failed in setting the edge and stopping the run. All those guys were at times out of position or got hung up on blocks. All I can say is that today we got awful linebacking play and we better find a way to fix the problem.

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:46 pm

Palmer flashed a few times which is rare for a packer ILB. I like him.

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WKUPackFan's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:25 am

About had a heart attack the first time Palmer went out wide to cover Forte, but Palmer stayed with him every time. Played well.

By the way, contrary to the story above, Palmer did not replace Barrington after his injury. They both started.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:47 pm

The offense was fine. After the Nelson injury the Packers gave up on the preseason and never had a dress rehearsal game. So 31 points on the road is pretty good for the first time most of these guys have had any extended playing time this year.

I was not a James Jones guy, but he can keep proving me wrong all year if he likes. He isn't fast, he doesn't get separation, he just catches the ball anyway.

The defense - sigh. Well on the good side other than garbage time with 30 seconds left they shouldn't have given up a touchdown if not for the bonehead offside on the field goal. But on the bad side, when you man up on the outside, load up in the box to stop the run - and then can't stop the run at all - you're in for a long day on the field. Palmer flashed some plays, Peppers was disruptive, and Matthews had the big play, but overall it was like a trip to the dentist watching the long drives and the defense's inability to stop the Bears on third down.

Clinton Dix got faked out by - Cutler! he can have a contest with Shields to see who had the worse game.

Dare I say the special teams looked good? Or am I just tempting fate?

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:52 pm

The only play makers on GB defense are Clay and Pep. The rest is held together by duct tape and used chewing gum! Mental mistakes should be taken care of now that Mashed Potato Mike can 'manage the game" and not get engulfed by the clipboard calling plays. They were not. Shields had some nice passes defended but is tackling was as bad...well, not as bad as Ha Ha's, but it was terrible. Speaking of HA Ha, worse tackling starting safety in the history of the league. His nickname should be Ole' not Ha Ha. The PAckers O line is sooooooo over rated, especially in run blocking. Above average at pass pro but how many times does Lacy turn nothing into something after a big wiff by the o-line? In the end a W is a W but damn how can you make the make shift Bears Oline look like a cohesive bunch of 7 year vets that have played together forever?!?!?!?!?!!? Middle of the defense remains a huge weakness. At least Zook's units held their own! 1-0 feels good! As does this Sunday afternoon drunk!

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:56 pm

Forget to mention #89 "Mittens!" How awesome is it to have him back!!! I'll never forget his rookie training camp when coaches and QBs said Jones's hands were so soft it sounded like he was wearing mittens when the ball hit his hands! Good to have you back, Mittens!

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Zac Larson's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:03 pm

My dude. Shields was an embarrassment, agreed with that. But there is more than Clay and Pep.. Daniels, Raji, Pennel, the rookie cb's that played, hell even Palmer. They all made plays. It's only week one.. chill. Not arguiing with Haha either. Tackling is something that'll have to come since they obviously don't work on it in practice for injury concern. But we can't wait much longer. But what was wrong with the o-line? Besides a couple of debatable calls.

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:50 pm

Zac, the voice of reason. I think my dig on the oline was unwarrented. I think that emotional unfair statement was based off Forte running wild behind their makeshift garbage fire of a line while Lacy had to fight for everything. Pack oline kept Rodgers clean all day. Pushed when they had to and got dicked by some calls that Nick Perry would love to have had the benefit of. I stand more sober and corrected.

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Zac Larson's picture

September 13, 2015 at 04:54 pm

Missing two key players on the D-Line showed. However, Peppers played his ass off. Yeah he started to slow down a little. But what do you expect being shorthanded, he had to play extended snaps.

My favorite part about the Pack D was watching Peppers celebrate his ass off after every big play he made(which was a lot). If you're a young kid on this team and you see a first ballot HOF veteran like him having that much fun, you are bound to join and feel the need to get better to make an impact.

This D is nowhere near championship ready. But with the leadership on the D side of the ball, it will get there.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:03 pm

That is a good point, this D line will not look anywhere close to the same in a couple weeks.

Peppers did a lot of celebrating. He's normally so quiet I wondered if he was giving it to the Chicago fans who said he was done.

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Zac Larson's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:11 pm

I'm glad other people noticed it. As much as I despise the Seahawks, they go nuts after big hits, TFL, sacks, etc.. and it gets everyone on that D going. Peppers naturally went into that leadership spot last year, whether he wanted it or not, now it seems like he is relishing in it. Hopefully that type of energy is the missing part to this D

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SpudRapids's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:01 pm

I think we all forget how good Morgan Burnett is against the run. If you ask me the D-Line did their job because in a 3-4 they need to eat up blockers which I thought they did. It's the linebackers and safeties that need to come up and make the tackles.

Offense looks fine…

It's week 1 the penalties will be cleaned up and the defense needs to find its identity. Wins a win.

P.S. the defense held up in the redzone well

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:06 pm

The voice of reason...

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:38 pm

Raji played the run well and played a very solid game at NT. Pennel was awful allowing Forte to get 2 good size runs early, after that it seemed Boyd was the DE in run D. Daniels wasn't noticeable today at all, run or pass rush.

Burnett is damn good Safety in the box. He showed that last year. He was definitely missed. As was Guion. It seemed to me Pennel was terrible and got yanked, The OLB didn't do very good holding the edge and Burnett out were among the problems against the run.

Gotta get it cleaned up w/ Seattle and Beastmode coming to Lambeau.

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Gianich's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:53 pm

Looking forward to Raji, Giuon and Boyd on run downs and Daniels, Jones and Pennel on passing downs.

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paxbak's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:05 pm

It didn't look like anybody was open today - all passes just about were contested - Aaron also held the ball quite a bit looking for someone to get open - that's one thing that concerns me

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HarlanHuckleby's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:20 pm

Sorry if this has been covered already...anybody else getting kicked off to app ads every time they try to read a CHTV article today?

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The TKstinator's picture

September 13, 2015 at 09:33 pm

Yes! Quite often!

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Iain's picture

September 14, 2015 at 05:02 am

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NashvilleCheesehead's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:28 pm

As I said before the game. Teams make rivalries. The Bears and the Packers -- best rivalry in football. Great win. GO PACK GO!!!

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Archie's picture

September 13, 2015 at 05:59 pm

Can't add much to what has been said. Defense was a hot mess and all the likely suspects were guilty. Worse tackling team in NFL. Cutler embarrassed our pass rush. Shields, Richardson and Dix embarrassed themselves. Nobody not named CMIII can play ILB on this team. Thank you Winston Moss/TT/MM/DC et. al.

Packers offense struggled to score against weak Bears defense. W/o JJ we probably lose that game. Cobb's catch in end zone was A+. I don't think Lacy fared well on that grass/turf(?). Starks would have fared much better. AROD was the difference-maker despite mediocre stats.

SEA's defense didn't look so good against RAMS today. But they scored 31 points on the Rams defense. Means they should score 48 or more against GB defense. SEA's defense has to be way better than Bears. Could be long day next Sunday for Pack. Best bet will be SEA is spread less than 7 and over if number is 50 ish.

Hate to say it after one week but watching these imposters play defense makes me believe SB is a pipe dream.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:13 pm

Palmer actually played ILB pretty well. Matthews had 6 tackles, no assisted tackles. Palmer had 6 tackles and one assisted tackle. The problem was the OLB losing the edge today.

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:51 pm

Other than an offsides penalty, did Perry even pkay? He is not playing even close to a first round pick. BIG miss on him.

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:59 pm

I agree, Palmer was ok. How many plays dud Neal or Perry make? D line wretched.

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:59 pm

I agree, Palmer was ok. How many plays dud Neal or Perry make? D line wretched.

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:59 pm

I agree, Palmer was ok. How many plays dud Neal or Perry make? D line wretched.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:12 pm

Forte was able to make his yardage primarily off-Tackle via stretch run and pin and pull blocking schemes. The OLBs did get pinned inside at times but they also held the edge too. In situations when the edge was held three errors kept appearing. 1) ILB fill was deplorable, 2) safety B to A gap cutback fill was horrible and 3) DL didn't flatten on run away. Raji wasn't as great as you think he was in this department. Raji plays better at the shade but when you face 11 or 12 personnel the Packers play almost exclusive nickel. Raji has played it before (2009 & 10) with success. He's just not the same player and that has nothing to do with scheme. I'll take him because he's not terrible but he's not worth the money he thinks he's worth. That was proven in free agency 2 years ago. He's no Wilfork and even Vince could play the 2 or 2i well. If Raji can only show production at the shade then he's a one trick pony and will always come on the cheap. That's a good thing for Ted.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:25 pm

I never said Raji was great in any comment. I said good to very good. I'll stand by that. He played a much better game than any other DL today. I also never said he was Wilfork. He showed up today. If they get that kinda play from him all year the Packers will probably resign him to a 3 yr contract IMO.

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Oppy's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:51 pm

I hope not. Raji needs to be set free.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

September 13, 2015 at 09:03 pm

If they get the kind of play from him he'll be gone. He isn't worth big money. He played just as good as the others today. He was nothing special. He's the AJ Hawk of the DL. There are quite a few guys I'd be willing to shell out for over Raji. Harrison, Poe, Williams, Hankins, Knighton, Logan, Mebane are just a handful of guys that are more productive than Raji. Not to mention Dareus and Lotulelei. All of these guys are better at what they do than Raji. Harrison doesn't give you much in terms of interior push on pass but he is dominant against the run. Most of these guys play over both the guard and center. Watch Linval Joseph tomorrow. Much better than Raji. Raji is what he is....a cheap option with one trick pony ability, only able to show value when playing the 1 or 0. When Guion comes back Raji's snaps will decline. That's good for the Packer defense and bad for Raji's free agent value. Good to very good? Hardly. Average at best.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 10:07 pm

Packers aren't going to go out and get someone else, I think we both argee on that. I also didn't make any comparisons to other NT. I think he played a good solid football game, maybe very good is too generous for you.

Fact is, its either Raji or Pennel (unless they draft a NT high and I'm not against that) and right now I'll take my chances w/ Raji. When Guion comes back he'll be playing the vast majority of his snaps at DE (5 tech). Guion will probably be used in some nickel 2 DL along w/ any of the others on the DL (including Raji) depending on D and D. I don't see Guion being a better NT option than Raji.

As far as I'm concerned Raji is the only DL to show up today. Daniels was invisible and he's in more of a playmaking position than Raji.

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Paul Ott Carruth's picture

September 13, 2015 at 10:13 pm

Again, you're hung up on the idea that Raji should only play in the shade. If that's the case then Raji won't be seeing the field very much since Green Bay spends most of its time in Nickel. Raji is a DT in Nickel and is expected to play over the Guard. In Base he moves to the 0 or 1 shade (NT). He's average at NT and sub-par when over the Guard. Guion and Daniels will see the most snaps in Nickel.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 10:26 pm

We were only talking about Raji as a NT. Before now, DT wasn't even mentioned. In nickel the Packers would mostly use Guion and Daniels. But depending on D and D, they might also go w/ Datone and Daniels or possibly Guion and Raji, sometimes Daniels and Raji. It seems to me that all bring different elements that can be helpful depending on the situation.

Clearly you don't think Raji is worth a pile of shyt. To each his own.

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vj_ostrowski's picture

September 14, 2015 at 10:01 am

"Played just as good as the others"

No. No. Just no. That's just factually incorrect, and leads me to believe that you did not watch the game more than once. I watched it three times and I can tell you that Raji not only outperformed the other defensive linemen, he did so by leaps and bounds.

Not "great" - not the Raji of 2010. But a useful Raji that holds his own at NT. He consistently drew 2 OL players. Now if only someone ELSE on the DL could have taken advantage of that fact, we'd be golden.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

September 13, 2015 at 08:56 pm

Dan Stodola , I agree with you, Palmer played pretty well. I liked what I saw. I'd say there is potential there. I won't argue about the OLB play, but there was at least 1 time that I can remember, when it was HA HA's tackle, & he wanted NO PART of it. IMO they missed Burnette on a few of those contain plays. You are Correct. It is the job of an OLB to turn the play in, or make the tackle. We lost containment a number of times on the edge, but there was no help there from the Safety or DB's. The tackling beyond the line of scrimmage is IMO Poor at best, & has been so for the last number of years, since the day's of Bishop & Barnette. Do you Agree? LVT

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 13, 2015 at 10:21 pm

LVT pretty much agree. Sometimes the OLB can be just as helpful by extending the edge and forcing the RB wider and wider. I didn't see too much of that today either. Saying that Collins was a better tackler than Clinton-Dix, which seems to be what your basically saying, is fairly obvious. Early in his career I don't think Collins was appreciably better tackling than HHCD, tho I could be wrong. We all remember the Collins from his All Pro years, but don't really accept that his 1st 3 yrs in the NFL were rather underwhelming. Burnett is an underrated key to the run D IMO.

I didn't care much for Barnett, but was a fan of Bishop. His loss set the ILB back, same w/ Collins, Jenkins and then Woodson's decline.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

September 13, 2015 at 11:04 pm

Dan Stodola, I agree with most of what you say. I forgot to mention Shields. He leaves a lot to be desired. About the only place I disagree is with Barnett. I thought he was a Hell of a Good ILB, Even though he didn't fit off the field.. I can't believe it, Cullen Jenkins is still playing, & Starting. LVT.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 14, 2015 at 03:19 pm

Cullen Jenkins didn't do much as a player last night but hes got a sweet beard.

And Marshall Newhouse the starting right tackle for the Giants. And maybe played the most steady for them in their loss to the Boys.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 13, 2015 at 09:31 pm

The offense scored 31 points on the road in their first real action together for the year. I think people are being too stat conscious if they think this was a bad performance.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 14, 2015 at 12:53 am

31 points is a lot of points. But the Bears were supposed to be just awful defensively. I am not sure how to express this thought, but we scored a tough 31 points, including at least 2 short fields. We were the better team but it was almost incremental. We ran the ball well without being exactly dominant - lots of consistent 2, 3, 4, 5 yard runs and a solid 4.4 yd/carry average (which is roughly what we averaged for the year last year but this came against a defensive line missing its best run defender and LBs who are square pegs in round holes). We were able to pass effectively without racking up big yards, and without the receivers getting wide open much. Jones and Cobb created some separation at times, but I'd say that Aaron Rodgers was just superbly accurate today. it seemed like the ball came out pretty slow, presumably because the WRs took time to get open. The TD to Cobb was perfect. The first TD to Jones hit Jones in the shoulder - he didn't pluck that one out of the air with his hands because the DB had tight coverage.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:43 pm

Last season the Packers were average to bad on the road, and awesome at home. So I guess last year after every home game everyone was giddy and talking Superbowl and after every away game they were bummed and talking about how this team wasn't going anywhere. Based on how they played on the road last year, an 8 point win is an awesome start.

Seattle scored a special teams td and a defensive td. Make their offense have to do it and they are still going to only score about 20 points and try to let their defense win it.

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Dan Stodola's picture

September 14, 2015 at 10:43 pm

The general rule of thumb is to go .500 on the road and win out at home. Basically guarantees a division title and playoff trip. By those standards the Packers hit the mark last year. Can't really complain about a .500 road record.

Packers beat Chi opening day w/ a new HC offensive and defensive schemes. That equals a lot of unscouted looks on both sides of the ball and ST. Packers took care of business.

Do they have some things to clean up on D? Absolutely. Packers face a stiff test next Sun Nite against Seattle. Lets hope they make enough progress and get the W at home!

Go Pack Go!

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4thand1's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:45 pm

The kicking chicago's ass comment almost backfired. That's all they were talking about in barely town. No more bulletin board material MM. A win on the road is big, the Pack covered the spread. TY Cutler, you came through. Dumb penalties, clean it up. Rodgers IS the best.

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Charvid's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:47 pm

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe we ran a single screen. I want to see Lacy get the ball in space and get a full head of steam up and watch people flail at him.

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Bohj's picture

September 13, 2015 at 07:29 pm

We ran at least three screens. Two bubble screens on the edge to Cobb. And one to Richard Rodgers. One yielded a much needed first down. The other was just shy of a first down by a yard. And then one was disrupted ending in a one yard gain.

I think what you meant was: there were no screens to running backs today.

Speaking of which. Kinda wished we had Starks getting a few more series there (trying to save Lacy like last year?), but I suppose when the game is tight, you throw big Eddie at em.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

September 15, 2015 at 07:00 am

We ran 1 screen and that was to Lacy deep inside the Red Zone.

It was a Quick Screen in the middle. (Led by Linsley)

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 06:57 pm

Now we know - Packers can't stop the run. ILB wasn't too bad - Palmer was solid. Daniels, Perry, Pennel played like they were INVISIBLE. You can't TALK yourself into being a good defense in the NFL, you actually have to make plays. Peppers and Matthews did, and it was just enough to win.

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mrj007's picture

September 13, 2015 at 07:00 pm

Who is ready for another penalty?

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Green Machine's picture

September 13, 2015 at 09:30 pm

7-9

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4thand1's picture

September 14, 2015 at 09:05 am

what ever cow.

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Green Machine's picture

September 14, 2015 at 02:04 pm

That's the worst team they'll play all season... and they should have lost.
If they play like that again, they'll lose their next 9.

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SpudRapids's picture

September 14, 2015 at 04:53 pm

and the legendary pessimist is back under a new name… Cow how are you doing these days?

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Green Machine's picture

September 14, 2015 at 07:08 pm

No.
Just someone who sees a defense with no heart and an offense with wr's who can't get deep and can't get separation.

Crazy how one injury can take the wr group from top 5 in the entire league to quite possibly the worst in the division.

Question - who gets dumped for D. Jones?
Richardson?
HaHa? I know this won't happen but it sure would send a message.
Shields? (see HaHa)
Jake Ryan? Hell if you can't take snaps from Palmer - yikes.
Perry or Neal? If they can't hold the edge then what CAN they do?

This is one horrendous defense.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 13, 2015 at 09:36 pm

The Packers were bad on the road last year. They went 4 - 4 and three of those wins were a last second win over the Fish, a 3 point win over the Vikings and a lackluster win over the Bucs. Losses included the thumping by the Seahawks and bad losses to the Saints and Bills. They also had not won a season opener in a few years.

So I will take a week 1, road, division win anytime.

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Amanofthenorth's picture

September 13, 2015 at 11:17 pm

First time ever I fast forwarded a play thinking it was going to be a Bear TD. But somehow Matthews tackled forte. Amazing player.

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porupack's picture

September 14, 2015 at 12:58 am

That is the same pansy defense we've had to endure the past 5 years, and the weaknesses just aren't fixed. That defense needs another off-season, because they haven't been coached this one. If TT hasn't valued the ILB position, this is proof for idiots that the ILB is critical to controlling time of possession and the ground game. Belichick would never roll out such garbage. I had to flip over to the Rams-Seahawks game to actually watch a team respect defensive football. Wow, what cru in st. lu.

Showed up: Matthews, Peppers
JJ, Cobb, Rodgers and Rogers

Welcome back James Jones. You must feel absolutely vindicated today! What a great turn of career in past offseason; Raiders to Giants and cut. Looked like it was about over, and now....whoa, you turned heads on Sunday.

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LASVEGAS-TOM's picture

September 14, 2015 at 01:22 am

porupack, I couldn't have said it better. Actually I've been saying it for the last 3 years. Way to go JJ. You're Great Receiver. You showed a lot of doubters today. Stay Healthy, & keep it going, all the way to the SB. Great Game!! LVT

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vj_ostrowski's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:55 am

Belichick rolled out a defense and LBs that looked infinitely WORSE than this in the first 4 weeks of 2014.

They got touched up by Miami in week 1 to the tune of 33 points, and The Chiefs in week 4 for 41.

You would be LIVID with our coaches, if that same thing happened.

The grass is always greener though, isn't it? It's time for some Packer fans to realize that it's actually not.

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PaulRosik's picture

September 14, 2015 at 02:56 pm

They don't like Capers and never will. When the defense does well in a game you can be sure they will think it is in spite of Capers and not because of him.

Eight point win on the road and you'd think they got trounced. They only had one win on the road of 8 points or more all season last year. Dear Lord please give me some more of this "bad play".

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MarkinMadison's picture

September 14, 2015 at 07:10 am

Seahawks suck. They haven't even won a game this season.

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MarkinMadison's picture

September 14, 2015 at 07:10 am

Seahawks suck. They haven't even won a game this season.

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Imma Fubared's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:26 pm

My issue for the past three years with the D, is it Capers? Or is it the lack of quality he has to work with?

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Imma Fubared's picture

September 14, 2015 at 08:33 pm

Sorry posted too soon there! I think it's both! First Chicago ran the same play over and over because it worked. That's coaching! Not adapting to the situation. Second the outside linebackers are fixated on shoring up the end rather than attack the running back! Lot of standing around at the outside. My other bitch is now in year two you would think our oneick, dix could tackle and make plays and he is trying like hell to avoid contact.datone will be back and like last year I expect Nada from him! He and perry are still the busts brothers until they prove otherwise! I agree this team is going nowhere with the D play they showed yesterday

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