OMG...Get a Kicker... NOW!!

That's just a GUT punch watching that dude!

Arrrrrrgggghhhhhhh! Well, all the issues that have been out there returned to roost today....pourous defense, kicking game, linebackers exposed once again in coverage. Back end is very different without Alexander. No pass rush in the first half, shoot, no stops on Minnesota drives until half time, Sone new wrinkles, four turnovers by two guys generally careful with the ball. There aren't enough swear words here for losing a game that by all rights, we should have won. On to the next one, GOPACKGO! -One more thing......why did we give up so early on the run game?

Well, it was the Vikings superbowl… cause thats a close as they will get to seeing it. They played a 49er team with No McCafrey and no Kittle. They let the packers come back from 28-0 for a final of 31-29 so I dont know how they can feel good about that win. It was evident Love had rust to knock off the entire first half. And GB basically didnt have a kicker and down 2 CBs.

But as a packer fan, this was the worst game to watch in 30+ yrs. At one point I turned it off and went outside and mowed the lawn. I dont want to see Nixon in the secondary for the rest of the year.

Missed kicks, a fumble, two tipped INTs, terrible drops by Wicks, a chuck it to Jesus ball when it wasn't needed = losing. Oh and it was VERY clear we missed Ja and CV today. Oh well. Onto next week.

Good thing it's September. I'm still excited about this team long term. Hope Watson is ok and they find a new kicker.

Do any of you agree with me on J.L? I think he is overrated and over paid, the packers office threw money at him too soon, he throws into coverage repeatedly. I don't believe he will be as good as B.F. or A.R. Love threw 3 picks today, I was disappointed with his judgment. Also I thing Malik is better. And the Bears will beat us for the first time in 5 years.

Well, the Vikings scored 4 TDs in the first half. We certainly helped them with some penalties on their 2nd drive. Still, a poor showing. Darnold had the time he needed and he got to play the entire game with a lead.

Those four turnovers of ours.....you lose 90% of the time that you turn it over 4 times. The FG unit missed two, but the punt coverage team scored 7 so that balances out.

We have scored 29, and lost, in both of Love's starts. I mean, it's odd that a team scored 29 points and loses, and when it happens twice in four games? That's enough to make me go "Hmmmm".

Riley Patterson is veteran who's available. So is Brandon McManus...

I know, I know, not exactly names who scream promise but one this is certain, Narvey ain't cutting it.

Meanwhile Greg Joseph went 5 of 5 in his first game as a Giant. Hey, I love Gute as much as most but he has totally dropped the ball getting a kicker for this team.

Someone PLEASE tell me WTF Rich Bisaccia has done for this team?

I felt Jordan was playing a little skeptical in the first half.. Then he said "Screw it". And then he started to make plays as long as there were no drops. Too many of those...

My bullet point Gut reactions are:

-Out prepared
-Out coACHED
-OUT PLAYED
- VERY SLOPPILY PLAYED GAME
-TOO MAY PENALTIES
- CAN'T WIN WITH 4 TURNOVERS
- DEFENSE COULD NOT GET A STOP AFTER THE PACKERS MADE IT 28-22
- LOVE WAS RUSTY FOR THE first 2 1/2 quarters
- First half was a disaster
- MLF did not have team prepared to play from the opening kickoff in an important game again.
- If we had an NFL kicker our valiant 4th quarter comeback would have delivered a win with the 6 points left on the field due to missed FGs early.

Sign an NFL kicker and bring on the Rams. Go Pack Go! Thanks, Since '61

One missed INT, 2 missed FG, 2 lost fumbles, 3 INT, 8 penalties, several dropped passes including a TD that hit Wicks in the numbers, poor OL and DL play in the first half, Love trying to get his timing back and inaccurate in the meantime. Other than that….

Greg Joseph kicking pretty good for the Giants .

4th game and still way too many penalties. And by some veterans. I believe this is reflection of poor discipline which is a reflection of poor coaching that doesn't take a harder stance against them.

Well that was easy for Sam the Sham and the Vikings opening drive.
Drive stalls and the kicking issue rears its ugly head.
Some were worried about the wrong Defense.
UH-OH Penalties help make it 14-0
Forced ball by Love is INT'ed and Watson gets hurt.
End 1st quarter, Lucky for GB.
This is getting ugly quick...yikes!!! 21-0
OK Love, earn some of that money.
And 'SPLATT' and another FG miss.
I thought they might have a chance, but another Love INT ends that. 28-0
Where's Malik?
Love throwing low balls to keep away from blanket coverage.
Min with another chance for points....denied, Victory
Boy oh Boy is Love favorind that left leg.
I said I don't mind a loss with Willis as Love needed another week.
A break for GB...but another bad challenge by MLF and gets an Unsporstmanlike on top of it, but Reed pulls in the TD.
Would like to see a Tale of Two Halfs.

2nd half
1st possession a dud.
Hafly defense playing halfly.until McKinney shows up, again.
Another dud possession.
Late 3rd quarter life, but it needs to end in a TD.
Penalty and bad 3rd down conversions.
Don't let the ball hit your chest, especially a TD pass geez, Wicks.
Hate on this, but I'm going with Malik in the 4th.
Love heard me and gets the TD.
Those two missed FG's are looming larger.
AND THE DEFENSE ARRIVES WITH THE SACK,FUMBLE & RECOVERY!!!
TD, and now it's a new game. WOW!!!
And a MIN FG makes it a 9 pt lead and that hurts the comeback.
And the door is closed with the 3rd INT by Love, oowwiee.
And now it's welded shut with a fumble.
Too many damm mistakes not counting the 5 turnovers.
A moral victory by keeping Aaron Jones out of the Endzone, it ain't much, but still.

Anyone have Chester Marcol's cell phone #?

-Love was not really ready. The whole team didn't seem really ready. Another MLF prep letdown.
-How does he prep the team for Willis but not Love - and a home game yet!
-In hindsight, I would have liked Willis to have played.
-What's with those long hero balls? Didn't we get rid of AR?
-Can we buy a kicker now please?
-Comeback made it some fun but that wasn't real.
-What kind of onside kick was that?
-I thought the second one was was a catch. They didn't show exactly where the ball hit the ground.
-I hope Watson is ok. Wyatt did not look good walking away.
-Willis 2-0; Love 0-2. I hope Love takes that to heart.

A very apt title. Just a slopfest generated by the Packers with self-inflicted wounds aplenty. Let thee count the ways:

--No defensive pressure on the QB in the first half. It took Hafley too long to find alternative sources like Quay and Nixon in the second half.

-- Drops by Packer receivers in the first half.

--Holey zone coverage in the first half that didn't work.

--Reckless throws by Love in double coverage, and a ridiculous deep shot in the fourth quarter to a wide open Vikings #7. Absolutely no need for it.

--The Kraft fumble.

--A kicker who can't make a 37-yard field goal. With one who can, we might be in a much better mood now.

--The good: Offensive line was pretty solid, and Reed had his usual impactful game.

I am pissed by this poor showing by our team. And the head coach, as frustrated as he may have been, cannot be getting unsportsmanlike penalties.

Today just confirmed what I beleived:
1. Our kicker would costs us a game and the coaching staff is doing nothing to find a new one. Today it costs us big time.
2. Pass d is the achiles heel of this team and the Vikes know it and took advantage of it all day against Nixon and Stokes. Two guys who I dont like; one doesnt like to tackle and avoids contact the other is slower then molasis.
3. LeFluer gets too caught up in play calling and not managing the game. He lost it. You cannot run onto the field ever and challenge the refs. Should have been penalized twice for 30.
He should spend time this week coaching this team up - tooooo many penalties, too many mental mistakes.
4. Running teams get in trouble when they fall behind. It forces you to do something you didnt practice a lot. It causes confusion versus a balanced run pass attack everyone is involved in.
5. Teams that are smart will go to pass pass pass playing the packers. There were Vikes so wide open they could have opened a lemonade stand. Pack are lucky it wasnt 42 to 0.
6. I cant blame the d coach for having guys who cant cover and 4 pass rushers who cant show up against good teams. Hope he realized he is in trouble. Reality should have set in today. Change is needed.

This is perhaps the best that I've ever felt after a loss........ weird!!!!

3 Int (2 tipped and 1 that should never have been thrown)
1 Forced Fumble - Tucker, you aren't playing Rugby, don't hold the ball like there's no consequences to it being punched out.
2 Missed Field Goals (47 & 51 Yards)..... the first one didn't even look close.

Game Tweet - Minnesota owned the first quarter, then it was all GB, but costly turnovers with 6 & 4 mins to go gifted the game.

GB Defense got going from the 2nd qtr and owned the Vikings after that.

GB Offense able to move the ball at will and looked better and better as the game went on (as Love worked the rust off).

Josh Jacobs' ability to stay on his feet after contact is a difference making ability - why he was used so sparingly was a head scratcher.

I thought that the Punter was prepping for a drop-kick with hang time (a la Rugby) and thought " here we go, this might be interesting"....... then he flubbed it and made it an anti-climax.... oh, well, there's ground here to work on.

Can we puuleeazee find a competent officiating crew.
Jordan Love is the real deal—some of his INT’s are head-scratchers.
Watson cannot remain healthy, but we have the talent to overcome.
I think we should blitz more.
Our team is gonna be really good. We played the hottest team in football, with two missed FG’s, and an officiating crew determined to make the Vikings 4-0; and nearly overcame. I’m not worried.
Go Packers!!!

With a two point difference at the end it is pretty awfully convenient to lay this at the foot of Narveson. Yeah, he doesn't inspire confidence and that 37 yarder especially should have been a gimme. Make even one of those two misses and who knows. But as we all witnessed, it wasn't just Narveson.

This doesn't mean I'm preaching forgiveness for the man because, they have to find someone better. Journeyman kickers seem to be everywhere but where are the really good ones because other teams suffer misses as well.

It sure did seem, primarily in the first half, that Love was not completely ready for his return. Too many balls thrown at the shoelaces and that hospital ball to Watson was a WTF moment.

Folks will delve into stats, yards, first downs, TOP and think this wasn't as bad as it seemed. No, it was as bad as it seemed even though they kinda got back in it. The drops, the turnovers, and enough of the damn penalties already. This was a team loss in all phases of the game. I refuse to believe that just by missing Alexander from the line-up that it could cause this much of a mess.

Early enough in the season to make corrections, learn from it, get some players to step up, and quit being hanky magnets. Give Minnesota their due. They are playing very well at the moment and they are a very well coached team.

Bye bye Narveson. I had high hopes for the kid, but enough already.
Making just one of those 2 FG attempts, and the Packers win.

Narveson sucked but so did everybody on both sides of the ball in the first half...and why not go first first downs instead of too many hero type throws..is that MLF calling those? First downs were there to be had more than a few times with a nice short pass over the middle..once again MLF did not have this team ready to play...

Same old shit defense! Middle linebacker play is embarrassing! You can't fix stupid!

I cannot believe that after that horrible first half that we could have won this game?! Both a sloppy, and penalty filled mess! Critical turnovers, missed kicks, penalties... you name it. So much potential, but so so many mistakes!!!

Tom M
"I feel better about Narveson than I ever did about Anders Carlson."

^ Yet, another 'classic' learning moment from the know it all down the hall at the website at barely still alive totalpackers.^

Jordan Love wasn't just 'rusty' as some say.
IMO...he clearly wasn't quite ready yet. Alot of his passes were at the shoelaces/shin.
He clearly favored his left leg.
To his credit, he did throw a fair amount of dimes, BUT.....he didn't have anything close to his quick feet and mobility. But he had some nice throws, to be sure.
Not sure why they played him, but i imagine they wanted this game bad.
Win.....and they are tied with the Vikings.
Lose....and they are in the cellar with the Bears.

Thank God Rashan Gary showed up. his name was called twice and he's listed as having 4 solo tackles.
Which...is better than the one tackle he had against the Titans.
Who knows, maybe next week he can help the team with a sack.
Dare to dream.

Anyone notice if Preston Smith played today?

Bring on the Rams....Like Nag says, there's a lot of football left.

This had the look of a gosh-awful football weekend from Friday through Sunday with a few minutes to go in the first half. Now there's some hope the Packers can beat a short-handed Rams team next week (who almost beat the Bears in Chicago) in LA. Still, this was a pretty important game if the Packers want to win the division--which they still could--but now it's a harder climb.

First off, I'm not naive enough to think that if the Packers hit those two kicks in the first half, they win. Everything changes after that point. They would have just as likely been blown out worse as they would've won by 4. That said: Brayden Narveson should've found a pink slip in his locker after the game. Gute is smart enough to not cut him until he's tried out a couple kickers and got a contract ready to be signed, but there's no way you can bring this guy back next week. He's below replacement level and is a poison pill for fans...and there are replacement level guys to be had.

Second, for those who lived through the Brett Favre years, we've seen these kinds of QB performances. Am I saying Love is Favre? No, but the flow of this game was reminiscent of that (or even Don Majkowski). Let's not kid ourselves: the Vikes took their foot off the gas for awhile and the Packers benefitted. That said, the plays still needed to be made and the Packers made enough to put themselves in position to try to win.

The Packers couldn't contend with the Vikings pass-catchers. They were mostly running free when they needed to, especially in the first half--and then later on their FG drive. TOP was mostly even, and number of plays was pretty close. The defense got to rest more in the second half, but they just got had without Jaire and Valentine.

Sloppy game for the most part for the Packers. It's clear now that Jordan Love has a ways to go before he fits the bill of a take-command passer. He's prone to lofting balls off his back foot and asking his receivers to make plays for him...he's been lucky that they often do. Two of his picks were tipped balls and there were still way too many catchable dropped balls. People are bitching about the corner route/INT, but we've seen 4 and 12 throw that same ball so many times--often resulting in INTs--and we've bitched about them, too. I think Willis might've made some plays with his legs, but I don't kid myself into thinking he would've done better. I think that Vikes D would've cooked him, especially down 3-4 scores.

I think if you said the Packers would be 2-2 after 4 games having played 2 with Willis as their starter, you'd feel pretty fortunate...you also wouldn't expect they'd be 2-0 in the Willis games and 0-2 in the Love games. Hopefully this young team comes out with fire in their bellies next week--and every week--going forward.

Yeah, it was a hot mess. They're 2 and 2 after four games so it's not time to panic or despair. It shouldn't be a surprise that Love was rusty and it's a safe bet that he won't stay that way. Better days are coming. But finding a new kicker sure does seem like it needs to be on the menu for the coming few days.

Two bad teams.. two wins.
Two good teams .. two close losses. Seems like a sloppy unfocused team right now.
They gave out a lot of money to Nixon and Gary and the returns are just not there.
Love has also lost 3 in a row to good teams, and has multiple turnovers in each game. But he felt the need to not participate in practice until he was paid $220 million.

So many things went wrong today. Defense stunk. Too many turnovers. Too many penalties. Shitty kicking. A completely unacceptable performance by just about everyone. After watching this horrific film the team needs to bury this one and get ready for next week. They have to be better than this.

Wait... after the Philly game, I was told that "real doctors on the internet" said that Love would be out for two months or more.

Who can you trust these days?

So if the numbnuts kicker makes both field goals the Packers win 35-31. Monday I would bring in a dozen kickers for tryouts.
If the Packers win, all the Negative Nancy's here would be cheering one of the teams greatest comebacks.

100% on Gute. Horrible crap with kickers the last 2 yrs. On him. Poor drafting on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks. On him. Sitting on $25 mil in cap room On him. Seriously how many 1st round picks can u miss on before u get fired

10 drops
Love should've never started looked injured and rusty. He never practiced one time clearly out of sync rusty and just chucking shit up for grabs like Favre. Malik easily gets the dub in this game.
-Love has been the worst QB in the NFL since the second half of that SF game.
-10 costly penalties
-5 TO's mainly due to Love not taking what the defense gives him.
-Defense can't stop screen passes or pick plays not one time did qe stop it.
-Defense should never have man to man coverage with a S on a receiver ever again as it cost them a TD.
-Refs seem to always favor our opponent for every single game this year so far. It's kind of hilarious at this point.
- 2 missed easy FG's

I'm pretty certain penalties and TO's gifted Min 21 points and Penalties/TO's, missed FG's and drops cost GB from scoring another 20 points

The best and quickest answer is to sign Crosby using the Veteran Salary Benefit in the CBA. The minimum for a player with 7+ seasons is approx. 1.2M and you can reduce how much of that goes against the Salary Cap using that benefit. Even at $1.2M and Crosby not in a training camp this year you should be able to convert 85-90% on kicks from 40 yards or less, 80% from 50 yards or less and possibly 50-60% from 50 plus yards. Based on the current offense they win most times and then rotate kickers on the practice squad hoping to find someone with a future. The idea of finding the ANSWER NOW is like flipping a coin, use this as an interim solution.

Hey, at least Jones 33 didn't get his Lambeau Leap!

Mason Crosby is on line 1.

Even that old man can still kick from 37 yards.

Greg Joseph went 5 for 5 on field goals with the giants on thursday. figures

So….the consensus from a majority seems to be fire MLF because he can’t get the team prepared and he’s outcoached (yet had a consensus brilliant game plan the previous two weeks). Many want to trade Love because he tosses too many picks (unlike a prior HOFer) and start Malik (who executed the incompetent MLF game plans on two good legs but is 2-0 against bad teams and cheap salary wise). Some(one) wants Gutey gone because he can’t find a kicker and apparently can’t draft talent to save his life. Oh, and the D continues to stink (down essentially the two starting CBs who went up against the NFLs best receiver and a very good WR2&3. Side note from enemy territory…The Vikings are very high on both Addison and Nailor, the latter who was hurt much of last year). Oh, and the Vikings are in near mid season form having three games in a row with all the vital components. Have I gotten the gist of the comments? Maybe the GM should have gotten Bo Nix (6/12/60/1TD) starting because nobody can Beas bad as love…

Where is the love for McKinney? How about a defense that has more turnovers in four weeks than in 17 last year. R.E.L.A.X. It’s a long season. The QB1 will heal and probably establish some rhythm with his WRs. The CBs will get healthy.

Loses to the Minnesota NFL franchise usually gut me. This one, not so much. They're not that good and neither are we. Right now.

What if we make that INT on the first possession of the game?

LaFleur really lost his sh*t before he was flagged. It was a huge contrast to Mike Sherman's scowl and mighty fist-through-the-air-aw-shucks punch. Big street cred move by The Brow.

Oh, Brayden. I like everything about you except your ability to kick a football between the uprights. All of Prescott weeps for you and your wife.

It's September. Lotta season left and there's nothing like a dose of the Rams to set ya right.

One person may be lovingly set free.

There is no dumpster fire at 1265.

I may be the lone optimist here today. I mean if we had made the almost gimme 37 yard field goal we would have won and surpassed the all time Packer comeback which has been 23 twice! Almost every kicker in the NFL would have made one under 40 including Carlson and Joseph as people have pointed out.
There are tons of issues to address. The fact that Love missed 2 weeks and was rusty and Farve-like at times. I am nkt worried. Hell he almost won it for us. The defense was late out of the gates with 2 starting db's out. Maybe we could/ should have rushed more numbers blitzing.
Still , the Vikings are undefeated so far and have a good team . I reflect on how we could have tied the Eagles with the missed field goal and the failed 2 point conversion . Now coupled with a more painful loss at home against a division rival , I still like our chances. Basically 3 missed field goals and 1 missed 2 point conversion from a possible 4 and 0 record.
A new decent kicker and we look good. We will be better even when healthy and without rust. Gpg since the Neanderthals roamed the earth

Thoughts:
1.) Y does nobody ask JL or MLF y tf he's forcing things or just chucking shit up for grabs? Malik just took qhat the defense gave him and dominated. Y can a backup figure this out but not Love. If Love does that I don't think GB ever loses a single game this year.
From the second half of the SF game until today Love qent from one of the best QB's if not the best to a bottom 10 QB. Y the sudden change? Just take qhat the defense gives u and nobody is even close to beating us.
2.) Find a damn kicker. This is going to be 2 straight years a kicker costs us a playoff game if they don't do something quick. Missing a 37 yd FG and another after that is a joke. The conditions qere nearly perfect. At this point I don't care if they spend a 4th round pick as long as it gives us a reliable kicker I'm cool.
3.) Kenny Clark and Gary seem cooked. They do little to nothing in the run or pass game at this point.
4.) Nixon was toasted more than any other DB in the NFL today. I'd put Bullard or anybody at the slot over him at this point.
5.) Packers had no answer in the first half for the screen passes or pick crossers at all.
6.) 5 TO's
7.) 10 penalties (yes the refs have favored our opponent in every game but 65% of the calls are legit.
8.) Blitz Quay on 50% of plays. The dude is good at nothing really so just blitz him if u r not going to bench him.
9.) Putting ur best DB on JJ and best S basically allowed everybody else to school GB. They finally played zone in the second half but too little too late.
10.) No pressure at all on Pumpkin Darnold. Dude is the worst QB in the NFL vs pressure (comp% and QBR). Y T F didn't they pressure him at all until the 4th Q? TF r u waiting for? This is y he carved u up in the first half. Haffley takes too damn long to make proper adjustments. They nearly dropped 30 on your heads before you made the correct adjustments.
11.) 10 drops (4 Dontay, 3 Doubs, 1 BO, 1 Reed, 1 Muscgrave).
12.) Penalties/nocalls/bs calls/etc, drops, 2 missed FG's and TO's alone gifted the Vikes with 24 pts and took at least 20 pts off the board for GB. Should've been 49-7 Packers. Vikes aren't much better than the Titans talent wise. The main difference is on defense they disguise the blitzes and coverages on every single play and on offense they know how to scheme guys open even with inferior talent.
13.) Stokes, LVN, Quay, Devonte, etc have yet to live up to their first round draft status.

Nice defense, where is Capers when you need him? Please rehire him. This new guys is fucking brutal.

Are you done writing your gut reactions? If so…time to delete the app.

R-E-L-A-X !!!!!

Alexander and Valentine out, I don't know that it mattered much. I'm not buying into the Darnold sale, but he could've went from the shotgun sitting in a lawn chair and still did what he did with the time he had. "Packers Defense dripping with talent." Yeah, right. Third and 14, wide open completion for the first down, then a 30 yard TD strike, I wasn't surprised...at all. That's the shame of it.

The score doesn't tell the story. Vikes took their foot off the gas (standard operating procedure in the NFL) or they could've put up 70. They were playing soft D in the second half. He didn't have to, but Trent Green even pointed it out.

Apparently Jordan Love corrodes easily. Maybe there is a uniform made with rustproofing to help out. He needs to stop throwing the ball up for grabs. That has nothing to do with being "rusty" it has everything to do with stupid play. He did that a lot last year but managed to get away with it...except vs. SF in the playoffs. WR's may have dropped some balls yesterday, but they made several catches on poorly thrown passes. If Love ever throws a pass to Musgrave where he doesn't have to fully extend to make the catch, I'm going to take a screen shot of it and frame it.

I don't know how they address the kicker situation, or if they will, but they need to. It was kind of fitting that they showed extra coverage of the Falcon's Koo hitting a 58 yard FG for the game winner when Narveson can't make a 37 yard FG. I'm sure the organization will state they're still confident in him.

On a high note, Jayden Reed. The guy is the WR version of Aaron Jones.

Packers can beat the Rams next Sunday. That will wipe this one from memory until December. Unless you see "Not prepared" repeatedly next Monday. "Not prepared" is becoming their identity.