Gut Reactions: Packers forget to show up for second half against Colts

Aaron's gut reactions to the Packers loss to the Colts. 

  • Packers showed us something today
  • Hope Linsley is ok. 
  • Rodgers is way too laid back when it comes to the clock but I know it will never change. 
  • Low crossers killed the Packers today. 
  • It's the worst when it's 3rd and 13 and you know in your soul that the Packers defense will play 15 yards off and give up a first down. 
  • How many horrible coverage breakdowns can LaFleur continue to justify?
  • Packers have a decent off-season to do list and one of those things is finding a new punter. 
  • That 3rd quarter was hard to watch. 
  • Kenny Clark played a good game but he can't do it all. 
  • Colts took advatange of Preston in coverage. 
  • Thought Gary and Z did a decent job against the run in the first half. 
  • Hell of a play from EQ on that WR screen. 
  • Loved the tight ends getting involved. 
  • Jace Sternberger's block in the open field was sick. 
  • The Packers special teams has been a disaster zone.
  • I don't want to talk about Tonyan being wide open in the end zone
  • Why on Earth does this team have so much trouble regaining momentum? Once the avalanche starts, it has no ability to regain its footing. 
  • That 4th and 1 call was bewildering. 
  • Yes, MVS's fumble was brutal but they don't make it to overtime without him. 
  • This team is turning the ball over way too much. 
  • Love this team regardless. 
  • Go Pack Go. 
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Bearmeat's picture

November 23, 2020 at 11:02 am

You can't turn the ball over 4x against a good team on the road and expect to win. That we were in it at the end at all speaks more to the Colts spitting the bit than anything we happened to do.

You could tell Davante wasn't right. You could tell that Lazard wasn't back 100% yet.

We were due for some fumbles. We were way below historic averages coming in. I have faith that will clean up.

BUT: this team will never stop any running attack.

MVS can't fumble like that. But we wouldn't have been there without him. So... ugh.

And then:

Fire Pettine
Fire Shepherd
Fire Preston
Fire Mennenga
Fire Kirksey
Fire Lowry

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GBPDAN1's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:05 pm

I might have to agree with you on the fire Pettine comment. I've been giving him a pass as much as I can, but that defensive scheme is troubling a lot of times.

It's also troubling watching our team struggle on 3rd and short, but then watching the other team have no problem on 3rd and short, or third and what ever

At least we didn't get blown out to a good team on the road

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Bearmeat's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:22 pm

Difference is that other teams have more than one player on the DL, and don't INSIST on playing bloody dime with CBs 10 yards off the LOS...

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:32 pm

Is that a scheme? Playing off coverage behind the Line to Gain and it repeatedly failing and you just keep at it. That's what a scheme is?

PS not an attack on you GBDAN

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Big_Mel_75's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:58 pm

I'm tired of hearing how we need to pay Aaron Jones. 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, we throw the football. If your RB can't get a yd he isn't worth getting paid. Pettine needs to go. Funny these refs seen every holding in the game to call but our RB almost does a backflip with the facemask and nothing...

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Gman1976's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:21 pm

After that Colt’s touchdown where Preston Smith was attempting to cover the TE, I was asking myself, “Why is he covering a receiver?” Preston is too big and slow to cover such a player! I think the coach is not using him properly.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:28 am

Preston was covering TE Trey Burton on that TD pass. Burton is more of a receiver than a blocking TE. It is common for ILBs to cover TEs, and lots of off-the-ball OLBs cover TEs as well.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:12 pm

"MVS ... we wouldn't have been there without him."

That assumes the player replacing MVS cannot beat a LBer up the seam or get deep enough to get his arm held for a massive PI gain. It also assumes that said replacement player would not be able to make contributions to keep other drives alives.

I'm not so sure I agree with those assumptions.

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Bearmeat's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:13 pm

Did you see MVS just run right by the LB? And before the end of the half too vs. Ya-Sin? He played really really well. Until... crap...

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HankScorpio's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:43 pm

It just strikes me as a stretch to think MVS is the only guy that could have possibly made those plays.

A WR should be able to beat a LB. And DBs try to get away with stuff routinely.

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davidedwards637's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:24 pm

Just remember how well Pettine did in Cleveland? Why would we or any one expect more? The NFL is the only organization that takes a loosing coach and will make him a coach somewhere else and expect different results. In the real world, we would all be unemployed.

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Ds300916's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:32 pm

To be fair what Mike Pettine did in Cleveland was actually very impressive. 7-9 was a top 3 season for them since coming back into the league.

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4thandinches's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:46 pm

So, it's safe to say you don't believe in ever giving a coach a second chance? Not sure I agree with you there...

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:29 pm

Might include firing MM & BG too.

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Cheesey51's picture

November 24, 2020 at 09:41 am

MVS was 1 of 4 turnovers. No excuse but it is a team sport
I am/was a big fan of Shepperd. Please MLF replace him with any of the many WR's on the team. He is that nervous? He is a non-nfl player
Is Preston Smith the new Martinez? Could be. Not his fault.
Special Teams "WOW" are they playing terrible.
What's that: Wade Phillips is at the door. Come on in, Wade. See you Pettine

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packerbackerjim's picture

November 22, 2020 at 06:59 pm

Once again, the loss of Ervin is felt. If the D can’t produce turnovers, they’re a sieve. Too many mistakes both sides of the ball.

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cpabandit's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:24 pm

FY Dbacks giving away two picks
FY LaFleur on some lousy calls. I don't care how much you're up at the half. MAKEADJUSTMENTS at halftime!
FY Pettine you should have been fired games ago.
FY defense with your soft coverage and making any RB look like Walter Peyton
FY #12 for 28 2nd half minutes of nothing and a lousy pass on your last pass attempt
FY MVS, just FU again and again
FY Preston for jumping off sides again and again and again
Changed FU to FY, how's that?

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:17 pm

Is F.U. accredited??

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johngalt's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:18 pm

What does FU mean?

Kinda sounds like a tantrum

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:01 pm

Hear ye, Hear ye!

This bedding has doth been verily shat.

Move on to the next one.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:12 pm

So, early returns are in: At least two people must not want to move on to the next one?

I guess some people like shitting the bed. No accounting for taste, I guess.

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WilsonMaywick's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:17 pm

I shared your shat the bed insight with my sons. Thank you for the laugh. Thumbs up good sir!

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WilsonMaywick's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:17 pm

I shared your shat the bed insight with my sons. Thank you for the laugh. Thumbs up good sir!

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WilsonMaywick's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:18 pm

Double post

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:10 am

Well stated, Olde English one!

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:01 pm

This one hurts. I was having such a good time in the first half. Two 3-and-outs later the 3rd quarter is over. Shepherd’s fumble specifically and special teams in general were huge disappointments.

Turnovers suck. Turnovers suck. Turnovers suck.

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dobber's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:02 pm

I'll take, "what happens when you don't take care of the football?" for $1000, Alex.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:50 pm

Good one. Footballoutsiders.com did an analysis several years back and it went something like this:

0 turnovers = 61% win probabilty.
1 turnover. 51%
2= 42%
3=28%
4=10%

I knew when we already had two by the end of the first quarter that we were already in the hole, on the road. We beat ourselves.

Here’s the positive: This Packer team is good enough to go on the road, against a quality team, and have a chance even when it plays poorly. And we did play sloppy today. We get a chance to beat the Bears next week and go 8-3. We’re in position to win our division and get at least the #3 seed.

I would again point to my long standing opposition to returning kicks and punts. Catch the ball and put Rodgers on the field. You don’t pay him to watch bottom of the roster guys turn it over.

If you are looking at a positive from this

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flackcatcher's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:10 pm

Notice that the Colts forced the Packers to return kickoffs. Other teams read the metrics too...

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:18 pm

I did notice that. If you have to return it, just take a couple of steps and dive for the ground before contact.

That kick that landed on the goal line....barely.....and bounced backwards was a thing of beauty.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:18 pm

I did notice that. If you have to return it, just take a couple of steps and dive for the ground before contact.

That kick that landed on the goal line....barely.....and bounced backwards was a thing of beauty.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:19 pm

I did notice that. If you have to return it, just take a couple of steps and dive for the ground before contact.

That kick that landed on the goal line....barely.....and bounced backwards was a thing of beauty.

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:34 pm

But, “good” teams win those games!!

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:11 am

Nailed it.

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Ollie1960's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:02 pm

Gut reactions Cory and Aaron know dick about football. Blaming the offense.

Colts punted once and only because of 5 holding penalties.

Bad play calling in second half and in the red zone at end of regulation.

Hard to win with 4 turnovers.

Defense is so bad it is sickening.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:06 pm

The offense failed just as hard as the defense in the second half.
They didn't do anything until the final drive of regulation.

I will give you that Rodgers struggled against one of the league's better defenses in the second half. But make no mistake, the offense struggled.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:10 pm

Yeah, but AR had an incredibly clean jersey at the end of this game. Neither team put much pressure on the opposing QB. Good QBs carve up most defenses when that happens.

Neither team really got their running game humming but both got enough to provide some balance and put up a lot of points.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:14 pm

It won't be long before some fans are blaming the OL regardless.

It's just what some fans like to do.

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dobber's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:37 pm

We got to see the likely 2021 OL for most of the game tonight: Bakhtiari--Runyan--Jenkins--Patrick--Turner.

In all, they didn't play badly against a pretty good Colts front 7.

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flackcatcher's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:14 pm

Depends on what the Packers decide to do with Taylor. Taylor is a road grader, Patrick is not.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 23, 2020 at 10:44 am

They will get an OT or Guard with a #2 pick. Not sold on Turner.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:27 pm

The three turnovers by the offense were huge factors in this game.

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4thandinches's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:50 pm

I think your points 1 and 4 are connected

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 23, 2020 at 04:44 am

Gut reaction: Ollie1960 bothers me with his vulgar statement regarding Cory and Aaron. Once again, the juvenile use of slang for human body parts evidences a small mind.

Additional gut reaction: Using the combination of my favorite great aunt's name and my birth year as a screen name is also bothersome, especially when the user is a filthy deplorable.

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Wenis's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:04 pm

Frauds

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Ollie1960's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:05 pm

FIRE PETTINE.

Needed to score a TD and end of regulation.

Wasted time.

Out coached in second half AGAIN.

Cory and Aaron don't know dick.

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calabasa's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:09 pm

Cory and Aaron are awesome. Fuck you.

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 23, 2020 at 04:47 am

See above O19 - I refuse to desecrate my great aunt's name by using it in association with a scumbag like you.

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tm_inter's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:05 pm

Darrius Shepherd should be ditched - he's too fumble-prone when handling the kick-off returns. Find somebody else to handle return duties.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:07 pm

Packers had a return man. Fans couldn't wait to get rid of him. So they did. Now we have Sheppard.

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Bearmeat's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:13 pm

The return man is Ervin. Shepherd is the backup. And frankly, I just don't think he's anything more than practice squad material.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:21 pm

Shepherd had a cut-worthy performance today with the fumble and needing to get bailed out by a few inches on replay. Two big mistakes.

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Alberta_Packer's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:40 pm

This one is on the Packers management. Shepherd is not fast, always runs straight line into coverage, has no moves and will occasionally fumble at crucial times. We knew this last season - so why is he still on the team?

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trailmarker6's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:38 pm

Well said.

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Ollie1960's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:07 pm

Gut reaction, Aaron and Cory STILL don't know dick.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:08 pm

Is it Cory or Aaron who is sleeping with your momma?

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edp1959's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:09 pm

I think they are both tag teaming yours.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:24 pm

Aaron Rodgers might have made it a three way with my mom, but he was predisposed, what with his balls being planted permanently deep down your throat.

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edp1959's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:09 pm

.

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Ollie1960's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:12 pm

My mom is dead and I am only teasing them.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:17 pm

Lots of moms are dead, if I stopped teasing every person who had a dead mom, I'd probably miss out on teasing a good number of jerks.

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davidedwards637's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:32 pm

If that is the case Ollie, why are you here? Go elsewhere and leave the discussion with the adults.

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SnowMan's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:24 pm

Always found the term "you don't know dick" rather odd... so, Ollie, it sounds like you might know dick very, very well then, and significantly better than these guys?

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 23, 2020 at 04:51 am

O19 can't know what he doesn't have.

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marpag1's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:09 pm

I don't care if MVS is good for one big play per game (he isn't, but even if he were). How many drives stall because MVS has only got one play in him, and is useless otherwise? And then if you're going to throw in a game losing fumble on top of that.....

Not that he was the only fumbler, of course.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:23 pm

A Receiver has to have solid hands--he does not.

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:03 pm

It seems that almost every catch MVS makes the ball bounces around in his hands. Hardly ever a stick to the hands catch.

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Renllaw's picture

November 23, 2020 at 06:51 am

He is indeed the king of the bobble. Unless its dropped right into his cradled arms, and even then sometimes, he is double catching it. Not only does that increase his drop rate, it gives NFL CB's that extra second to knock it loose. The guy is a great athlete, but he is not an NFL wide out.

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baldski's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:41 pm

Did the Packers scouts not know this when they drafted him?

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TarynsEyes's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:11 pm

GB appeared at half-time to be driving into the sunset with a victory. The half-time talk must have included hiding the keys to the car.

Ind tried hard to give the game away late fourth quarter and then decided to take it back in OT.

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:13 am

You SO effen nailed it.

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Denver's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:12 pm

Brutal 2nd half. Nice guys, but Shepherd and Scott need to go...and soon.

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Minniman's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:13 pm

I’m conflicted. Part of me was saddened on that play in the first when Rashan Gary isolated Rivers on the edge. Rivers allowed himself to be that vulnerable, he deserved to be flattened.

Linsley didn’t look good. The stiff, robotic way that he was walking to the locker room, I’d say that he has a vertebral disc injury.

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Oppy's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:19 pm

I believe it was TGR that as recently as yesterday mentioned he'd be weary of re-signing Linsley due to his back issues.

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dobber's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:39 pm

I thought he might've had a concussion at first...he looked dazed.

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gkarl's picture

November 23, 2020 at 07:55 am

The whole team looked concussed after halftime.

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Nate-1980's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:13 pm

I was upset at the end of this game for about ten seconds, then I realized this is what this team does.. They’re up 28-14 at halftime, and piss away an easy win.. It would be more heartbreaking, if it wasn’t so pathetic and ordinary.. I haven’t seen a team that’s beat themselves more often in the history of sports than the packers.. I could mention all the horrible glaring problems with management/coaching we all see except for the homers, but it really doesn’t matter..This team will do NOTHING in the playoffs except eggszackery what happened tonight.. Call me a bad fan, not long enough of one (35 for me), whatever you must.. But you don’t let a two touchdown lead slip away only scoring 3 points in the second half against a good team like this and expect to win anything.. Down vote me homeriouses ..In gute we trust right, I think Mikey P should get an extension..;)

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Ollie1960's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:15 pm

I agree. I said if they scored 10 points in the second half Indy would need 28 to win.

Horrible Defense.

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dobber's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:42 pm

On the other hand...they gave Indy good field position on several occasions in the second half and Indy kept kicking 3s. They only scored one TD in the second half.

This game should've never been this close...

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Packers1985's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:18 pm

Yes half of the blame is on special teams...Scott hardly punted anything over 40 yards..
easy field possessions for the receiving team

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Oppy's picture

November 23, 2020 at 08:41 am

You know how we can improve the play of our punt unit?

Field an offense that puts points on the board.
Best punter is the one who you never have to put on the field.

Honestly, I don't understand how so many Packers fans steadfastly refuse to acknowledge the offensive struggles in the 2nd half of the game.

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Malland56's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:13 pm

2 stupid an I mean STUPID calls in the second half besides the other crap. 1st one was the 3rd and less than 1 yard to go right at the end of the 3rd quarter. Less than a yard. WE PASS!!! Your kidding me. Run it! 2nd one was even worse. I think it was with only 4 minutes left and we have a 3rd down and 1 foot. One SOBing foot and 12 passes it. On top of that, he over throws the open receiver. RUN THE DAMN BALL.

DC must go. I can't take his shit calls during the game anymore. I saw one blitz the whole game. They probably had a couple more but not enough, thats for sure.

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mrj007's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:23 pm

Why was Dillon out? This would be a situation made for him... or a sneak... anything other than the call. But still need to execute

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dobber's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:43 pm

Dillon tested positive for Covid.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:23 pm

Again? Isn’t this like 3 weeks in a row? Is he on a ventilator or something, or has he just been asymptomatic for three weeks?

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:23 pm

Again? Isn’t this like 3 weeks in a row? Is he on a ventilator or something, or has he just been asymptomatic for three weeks?

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Since'61's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:14 pm

Very difficult watching the second half. This team inexplicably stops playing for long periods of games on both sides of the ball. The defense doesn’t pick up the offense and vice-versa. Then the STs chip in with their share of mistakes.

It’s like a different team came out to play the second half. Coaching needs to figure this out. #1 seed goes to the Saints for now. Bring on DA Bears. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Crazedcamel's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:33 pm

Lowry is worthless in the 2 man front . It is mystifying why he gets those snaps rendering Clark useless, yet that is what Pettine opted. Winn should be getting those early snaps. The philosophy of salary is greater than performance has to end if this team is more than one and done. The coaches have to override the front office.

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4thandinches's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:52 pm

Totally agree! Wynn tips a pass and then is never seen again. Not sure why Lowry is deemed so much better.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:52 am

Brees has 11 broken ribs and a collapsed lung. Just went on IR. Incredibly, at least to me, the pundits suggest he might miss only a few games. Anyway, Brees is on IR.

NO will have to win games with Tysom Hill or Jameis Winston at QB. Of course, NO won with Hill at QB. He was efficient and threw for 238 yards and ran for 51 more. NO had 11 QB hits and 8 sacks on Matt Ryan, so the Saints easily beat a bad Falcons team.

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Lphill's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:15 pm

Need a punter now , this is a one and done team in the playoffs , the defense continues to play so far off the ball and again ,2 D lineman in against the run? Great contribution from our draft picks again.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:27 pm

If they want to have a chance down the road, they should pink slip Pettine ,now, and set the tone or continue going through the motions.

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HankScorpio's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:25 pm

The Packers are soft on defense. To me that falls on the coaching staff, first and foremost.

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Gman1976's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:28 pm

Is our punter injured? For some reason he is no longer hammering the ball.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:58 pm

He was on injury report this week. He missed a game earlier .

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Swisch's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:30 pm

It's a good loss if we fire Pettine for demoralizing the whole team!
To be so passive and predictable on defense -- by rarely, if ever, blitzing -- saps our guys of their aggressiveness and sucks the fun out of the game, as well as being a gift to the opposing offense.
Oh for the days of Charles Woodson coming off the corner to harass a quarterback.
We need to mix it up blitzing and not blitzing -- and when we do blitz, we need to vary where it's coming from.
By the way, when we don't blitz on third-and-short, let's have tighter coverage.
It seems we have some good players on defense that are being hindered by their defensive coordinator.
This is my best impression of the situation, and I could be way wrong. Other comments welcome.
Doing the same thing over and over and over again in the NFL is madness.
Now it's our team management that has to be aggressive by making a gutsy change on defense.

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Gman1976's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:30 pm

Did we blitz at all during the game?

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:20 am

Spot ON!

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Lphill's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:18 pm

Oh and the Packers still can't buy a yard.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:29 pm

No Fullback and Dillon out, so it gets down to play calling.

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PackfanNY's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:47 pm

They hadn’t really used Dillon or a fullback, any fullback for that matter. Kind of like a hood ornament for the team.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 23, 2020 at 10:34 am

Why would they want a lead blocker that can displace a LB or safety off the edge and open the door for the RB??

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Lphill's picture

November 25, 2020 at 08:54 am

A tight end can be used in the backfield as a blocker.

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NickPerry's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:19 pm

I'm so tired of watching this team play well enough to win but lose BECAUSE of the defense. I know, I know, they can't turn over the ball like that and usually don't. But that unshakeable feeling of DOOM whenever the defense is on the field just sucks!

PLEASE leave Pettine in Indy...

Chase Claypool whom I was BEGGING Gute to take at the end of the first just scored his 10th TD...AS A ROOKIE!!

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trailmarker6's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:44 pm

Yeah but does Claypool look as good in a ball cap standing on the sidelines as Love?

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:44 pm

But I’ll bet Chase doesn’t look as good as Jordan Love on the sideline. Just think in 3 years when he takes over for the departed Rodgers and all of the top players are over the hill how great it will be to have him as QB and we will be back to square one trying to put a team around him and no SB’s since 2010.

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CAG123's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:19 pm

What pisses me off is the fact that a mistake free game results in a blowout EASILY up 28-14 and refused to win I can’t blame the def too much here because 3/4 TO were on off and gave them short fields I suppose one could argue a better def still holds them to a FG at least twice but I digress. Why for the love of god can’t this team play 60 minutes of solid football?

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:26 am

NOT in their DNA. Not aggressive. Not physical. NO killer instinct. Pettine has to go. Unfortunately, it looks like we're stuck with him through the end of the season. Another WASTED season...

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:26 pm

Given a halftime 14 point lead, there is no excuse to lose this game. Capers then, sorry Pettine's, defense gives up 17 points to tie the game. Can't wait for Leatherface's "yeah but we're a better defense than Seattle's" argument. No way this defense wins a championship. Another wasted year with Rodgers.

This is a top 3rd offence, with a bottom 3rd defense. AGAIN. Why, after year after year, we can't field respectable defense and special teams is keeping this team from more Lombardi's.

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CAG123's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:36 pm

“We’re 20-6 blah blah blah win the division blah blah blah home playoff game blah blah blah NFCG blah blah blah I provide facts blah blah blah”

Something along those lines.

I don’t know why he refuses to admit this def needs work but then again this is the same guy that said we didn’t need the Smiths and Nick Perry and CM3 were good enough.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:48 pm

Show me one "signature" win in that 20-6 record. Seattle in the playoffs last year, that's it.

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PhantomII's picture

November 23, 2020 at 01:57 am

After Seattle lost 2 starting RB's prior to packers game. That's why out of shape beast mode was on the team.

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Leatherhead's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:31 pm

CAG, I never said we don’t need work on the defense, I’ve said we’re not the abysmal dumpster fire people like to claim it is. We’re an average NFL defense..

In fact, I agree with your earlier post that the offense is as much to blame for this loss as anything. As you pointed out, without those turnovers we win this game easily.

I did say we didn’t need the Smiths, and already many people want Preston cut. I argued for keepingPerry because we were paying him so much to not play for us. I never, ever argued for keeping Matthews.

And here’s today’s fact: We got more sacks in 2018, without the Smiths, than we did last year with them.

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13TimeChamps's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:26 pm

That's not true....
https://dairylandexpress.com/2020/07/09/green-bay-packers-created-a-lot-...

"Although their 41 sacks were a step back from their 2018 total, the Green Bay Packers were able to get after the quarterback much more consistently. While sacks are great, disrupting the play via pressuring the quarterback is just as important. And Green Bay was excellent at that in 2019.

The Green Bay Packers’ pressure rate of 38.6 percent was the fourth-best in football, and their 338 total pressures were 65 more than the previous year and ranked as the seventh-most.''

So much for "today's facts"

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CAG123's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:40 pm

I’d definitely say below average I let last year slide because even though the raw yardage numbers weren’t great the 2019 def tightened up in the red zone, got pressure, got TOs and were pretty good against the pass which seems typical of the Pettine defenses when I looked them up (I only looked up his Cleveland years when he wasn’t attached to Rex Ryan) this year I can’t really tell you what they do well.

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jannes bjornson's picture

November 23, 2020 at 10:43 am

When Indy come s out dbl TE sets with their All Pro Line, prepare to be hammered. Pettine rolls to dime, inviting slaughter. Enough said.

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uncle10's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:25 pm

My garbage gets picked up tomorrow. Pettine and the Special Teams are in the can, please don't drop it!

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:28 am

Secure that lid!!!

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Brewcity's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:26 pm

I hated that Rodgers used so much clock before throwing incomplete to Adams in the end zone. Wanted a quick 3rd down conversion and a couple shots into the end zone...perhaps not realistic, just what I was rooting for in the moment.

If Adams scores there, Rodgers is the front runner for MVP at this point. Obviously a lot more season to go.

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JohnnyLogan's picture

November 22, 2020 at 11:14 pm

Don't understand what Rodgers was doing letting the clock run down. It was strange.

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:29 am

same crap...ALL season.

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Oppy's picture

November 23, 2020 at 12:57 pm

Season? Entire second half of career.

Rodgers intentionally winds clock because the defense can't "Surprise" him with alignment shifts. His rationale is they have to be in their final alignment before he snaps the ball, so they can't hide their true formation.

Rodgers is seemingly the only QB in the league that has to do this.

It is what it is. I'm just happy that he's been better with snapping the ball before the play clock completely drains this year (compared to the last 5-6 years at any rate.)

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badaxed's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:29 pm

Fire Pettine now. Please........

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packfan1k's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:29 pm

Good game - we were just lax on ball security. Indy was too but they tightened that up in the second half, but we didn't - turnovers won the game for Indy. I thought Kenny Clark, Z and Raven Greene played well this game. I don't know why we cannot just run on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1. We converted once with Jamaal. Teams are getting wise on the short passes to the sideline on 3rd and short or 4th and short. It is time we get rid of Shepherd and get a good kick & punt returner - either from some practice squad or street FA. Worst case, let us at least get Trevor Davis back. Or give Malik Taylor a chance at KR (he was in college) and Josh Jackson at PR. We got an early look at our starting OL next year (with Runyan at LG and Jenkins at C). I don't think we will resign Linsley at market value with his bad back. Lafleur is going to have a new line - we need to get our energy level up at start of the game and after halftime.

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UGDR's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:21 pm

Force a punt for once in the 3rd quarter vs a physical team or forever be labeled as soft. The Pettine zoo is soft AF.

4th and 1 late 4th quarter: Kick the FG or run to the outside where you've gotten yards all day on 4th and one....nope, out think yourself just like mashed potato Mike and turn it over on downs. Unacceptable short yardage play calls lately. F the Crosby injury crap! They went for it instead of tying the game on 45yard kick because they know the soft AF Pettine zoo wasn't stopping anything so why tie when a possession for the Colts equals no resistance from Pettine and co. other than some holds. Which brings me to this; The refs were the best players on the field for the Packers defense today. How can you not learn anything from last year's game vs Rivers? Middle middle middle middle. Easy 1st downs on same routes every time. I can't believe how bad the ILB unit is on this team. I'm missing UDFA Barnes! Thats how bad they are at ILB! OMG! Martin benched for Summers! Ouch! They suck! Thanks Gute for the future QB you could have got in the 2nd round and the slow plotter RB who doesn't even play. Meanwhile claypool caught his 10th TD and ILB Patrick Queen is going to be DROY! FU gutey for having us as bridesmaids once again! FU Pettine! and FU MLF for folding vs every balanced physical team you've faced and in the face of any adversity. 20-6 is nice but all 6 were complete turds in which your team was unprepared, uninterested, out coached, and everytime out muscled. Pretenders. A win today would have put a lot of this to rest but nope. Same old shit.

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flackcatcher's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:46 pm

Martin on the covid list with Dillon. No telling when they will be back.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 23, 2020 at 03:02 am

Martin played.

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 23, 2020 at 05:12 am

Stopped reading after "mashed potato Mike".

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:51 pm

Interesting how we always talk about next year and hope things get better. But in reality with MM & BG it’s the same “if you do what you’ve always done, you get what you’ve always got”!!!

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:34 am

TRUTH.

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packfan1k's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:29 pm

Good game - we were just lax on ball security. Indy was too but they tightened that up in the second half, but we didn't - turnovers won the game for Indy. I thought Kenny Clark, Z and Raven Greene played well this game. I don't know why we cannot just run on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1. We converted once with Jamaal. Teams are getting wise on the short passes to the sideline on 3rd and short or 4th and short. It is time we get rid of Shepherd and get a good kick & punt returner - either from some practice squad or street FA. Worst case, let us at least get Trevor Davis back. Or give Malik Taylor a chance at KR (he was in college) and Josh Jackson at PR. We got an early look at our starting OL next year (with Runyan at LG and Jenkins at C). I don't think we will resign Linsley at market value with his bad back. Lafleur is going to have a new line - we need to get our energy level up at start of the game and after halftime.

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stockholder's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:30 pm

What could anybody say that hasn't been said about this Defense? Seriously, The double teams on Clark effect the whole DL. Raji had help. Clark has nothing. I would have taken every penalty in the last 2 min.! Pettine why? Why? Why? MVS growing pains. LeFluer needs to re-open Training Camp. Forget about a game plan.

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splitpea1's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:13 pm

I would have taken the penalties, too--knocks them out of field goal range (but then again, that's another opportunity for a catch-and-run against the Pettine defense) and we still had plenty of time left.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 23, 2020 at 03:06 am

The down and the time were more important than the yards on some of those penalties.

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stockholder's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:31 pm

Beat the Bears

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:28 pm

so what if they do? Doesnt help them beat REAL teams. Helps for record. Helps for seeding. Helps to get us a ticket to a quick exit from the playoffs. Come on stockholder, we all know by now thats how this goes in Green Bay baby.

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jlc1's picture

November 23, 2020 at 12:51 pm

Amen but it looks like that is going to be harder than it should be.

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uncle10's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:36 pm

LeFluer keeps Pettine around so HE isn't the worst coach on the team. Steve the Pirate would be embarrassed! GARRRR!

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barutanseijin's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:38 pm

JK Scott is terrible, but i suspect that the defense would have wasted good punts anyway.

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:35 am

What happened to Scott???? He looked SO promising at one time!

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Lare's picture

November 23, 2020 at 05:32 am

I think he's got a bad case of Menningitis.

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PackfanNY's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:44 pm

Besides the defense, how long must we wait before someone or anyone on the coaching staff creates an effective SHORT YARDAGE play? Please for the love of God! Aaron Nagler even asked LaFleur in a couple of these post game chats about short yardage. I cringe anytime we come up a yard or a half a yard on 1st, 2nd or 3rd down. Packers don’t use the QB sneak and end up throwing on most of them. It’s ridiculous.

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UGDR's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:33 pm

Seriously why TF don't they ever QB sneak on a yard or less to gain? QB sneaks are better than 70% in the NFL for first downs this year. Is it Rodgers contract where it states "no QB sneaks allowed, must out think yourself and get cute with some pass or do the most obvious A gap run vs 11 in the box?" Do a freakin QB sneak ya morons! I'd bet that PFF has them as worse 3rd and 4th and 1yard to go team in the NFL along with being worse ILB unit in the NFL. Very Esteemed shit right there...

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barutanseijin's picture

November 23, 2020 at 03:05 pm

The guy has has had 2 broken shoulders. Another one and he’s done.

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:50 pm

LOL another loss to a team with more talent. At halftime i was thinking hey you know what maybe we got something going. Defense had those blown coverages but were actually looking aggressive otherwise .Nope. Back to beating the Bears and Lions so all the fanboys can be happy and drink their beer and enjoy it for a week before the Titans hand us our ass on a 250 yard day from Henry. Then theyll beat the Bears again woohoo big deal!!

20+ years of Favre and Rodgers = 1 Super Bowl apiece. Fucking pathetic. This team hasnt fielded a god damned defense in over a DECADE. Ive seen better defenses in the Big 12.

Hey at least we used 2 of our draft picks today!

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:54 pm

YES!!! Preach it brother!!

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dobber's picture

November 23, 2020 at 05:14 am

Actually 3: Runyan, Martin, and Scott all played.

Stepaniak, Deguara and Dillon were all unavailable due to injury/covid.. Garvin and Love were inactive. Hanson is PS/Injured.

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:50 pm

Jk Twatt hasnt hit a punt since Week 1 of 2019.....he looks TERRIFIED to even be out there. He KILLS us consistently with 30 yard punts.

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UGDR's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:36 pm

Come on. Does it even matter? 2 runs or a pass over the middle vs this defense is a wash after a good punt anyway....

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jlc1's picture

November 23, 2020 at 12:55 pm

You are too generous, one run, an offensive holding call, an incomplete pass and then a 3rd and 13 gain for 15 yards, running or passing, is the current substitute for a good punt.

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Packer_Fan's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:51 pm

This game sucked. And Aaron, you are right. Lafleur did a poor job play calling in the second half to regain the momentum. I am also done with Shepherd. Too mistakes. And they really need to decide if Pettine is the right guy to lead this defense

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:57 pm

We get the ball back faster if he only punts for 30 yards!! Then the offense gets back on the field for quick 3 and out and we punt again & give up another TD!!

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4thdown's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:54 pm

Listening to the game on the way home it cracked me up. Twords the end Wayne making the call said " 3rd and 25. The packers have 4 lineman down and 8 backs lined up10 yards off the line." In the background you hear Larry say" AT LEAST TEN YARDS' In a very dejected voice. I think both Larry and Wayne have had enough of this playing scared Defense like all of us.

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flackcatcher's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:18 pm

(Sigh) Packers played most of the game in 1 high or cover 2 deep because Rivers is THAT GOOD. Better to give up FG rather than touchdowns. Guess what? The Colts played cover two all game, and had their CB playing 10+ off the LOS. Why. MVS fourth quarter 3 and 10, that's why. When you are playing against a future hall of fame QB that's what a good DC does. These are not stupid people on either sideline.

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canadapacker's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:46 pm

I thought that we had some good plays for that coverage when we were putting 2 or even 3 Tight ends out there. Sternberger has regressed a little on his routes but we got them going in the first half. We needed more of that.

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flackcatcher's picture

November 22, 2020 at 11:02 pm

Just like the Packers, the Colts decided that FG rather than TD was an acceptable price to pay. Their drag routes and rub plays played havoc with the Packers soft middle in the third quarter, just like the Packers did to them with Sternberger and Lazarus in the second quarter. Give the Colts credit, by keeping the Packers off the field third quarter, they limited the damage and protected their soft middle. People forget just how good Rivers is, even at 39 years old.

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Lphill's picture

November 22, 2020 at 07:58 pm

Flashback to the draft, conversation between Gutenkist and Murphy , hey lets not draft a playmaker linebacker, receiver or D lineman , I think we will be fine this year with what we have , we need to draft guys for the future.

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canadapacker's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:16 pm

You are an expert predicting injuries and Covid? It is over get over it. I wanted a middle lineback but from what I see - we needed a whole bunch of linebackers. I also think that we should have paid Fackrell. Kirksey is a bust. Deguara and Dillon would have helped us today.

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:30 pm

what do injuries and covid have to do with wasting an entire draft for a team coming off a 13-3 season? what does that have to do with doing NOTHING ZIP ZILCH to improve last years roster?

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canadapacker's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:44 pm

Did you read what i said or do you just want to be right? We took a QB of the future - maybe maybe not - Favre probably was saying the same thing when we took AR. That is that - decision made . So moving on - we took Dillon and Deguara who was playing well and was going to be a force - especially getting the extra yards and punishing those guys in the middle of the field- the same as Dillon - Dillon should be back after Covid and unfortunately Degura next year. Now I would rather have seen some better help on the inside rather than either of them but I am not the GM and we cant really tell what would have or should have because of injury and Covid - but recognize this - the number 1 overall pick is no longer playing this year. So I guess that Cinci shouldnt have taken him.

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:08 pm

its okay to be pissed about how this draft class is hurting THIS years team

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canadapacker's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:43 pm

Yes it is - but there is not too many productive/effective amongst the other NFC north teams except the reallly big impact player is Jefferson of the Vikes who was taken at 21. And our 5th and 6 th are playing well Martin and Runyon.

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UGDR's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:50 pm

Oh please!! Packers have the worst ILB unit in the NFL. How can you defend the Love pick, who would have been there in 2nd round, and a slow plotter RB who doesn't even play when Claypool catches his 10td today and Patrick Queen is going to get DROY? Gutey hit on two pick in 3 years. Alexander and Jenkins. The rest suck, well Gary is coming on and should be as a 12th overall pick but can't play him over Preston cause of the money we paid smith... What a mess...its 945pm 3 hours after the game and the middle of the field is still open for easy first downs...

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Jared's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:59 pm

But you have to admit, Jordan Love looks good standing on the sideline!!

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CIAVE's picture

November 23, 2020 at 02:39 am

Sadly, you nailed it...

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Dzehren's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:09 pm

Like first poster said. Turn the ball over 3 or 4 times and you are going to lose 95% of the time. This one is on the offense and special teams.

Defense did enough to win the game.

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edp1959's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:35 pm

Colts punted 1 time, yeah defense did enough.

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CAG123's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:42 pm

They got extra possessions from TOs though and short fields...

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Dzehren's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:02 pm

Exactly. When you start 3 or 4 drives in field goal range it’s difficult to punt.

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Dzehren's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:00 pm

Your making my point.
When GB turns the ball over 3 or 4 times inside the Colts 40 yard line Philip Rivers & co are already in field goal range . Why would the Colts need to punt when get the ball in scoring position 4 times? Remember the Tampa game boss?

The other times the Colts had problems the Packers D got a turnover.

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UGDR's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:56 pm

Really? How many punts did the defense force in the second half??? Crickets.... All units shit the bed out of the half. MLF wilts again when faced with a well balance, physical opponent and some adversity. MLF please Beat a winning team for once and the ShittyBears don't count for the eye test. Beat titans or F off as soft pretenders once again.

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PhantomII's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:08 pm

Well boys and gals, that's a perfect example of how to piss away a game you are in full control of. Colts played for 4 quarters and capitalized on our many turnovers. Rodgers man love for D. Adams cost him the game, Tonyan was wide open but didn't get a look.Pettine again did not put big bodies on the DL with the Colts running 40 yds before he made a switch. We again need 4 yds and are throwing 15-20 yds. down range = 3 n out. Move the chains and all things will be good. Lots of highs and lows, I'm exhausted. If we can convince the NFL to get rid of halftime we might be okay. I usually watch football at my father in laws. On the way there I saw a license plate frame that said " DO YOU FOLLOW JESUS THIS CLOSE".......LOL....WELL DO YA....

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canadapacker's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:12 pm

My take is that it was a team loss. AR did not play up to his typical standard especially in the 2nd half and it was full of bad play design and bad execution offensively. This O has been typically coming out in the second half of games lackadaisically. The Defense is a bend but dont break type and couldnt string 4 plays together to get off of the field in the 2nd half and the O put them back on 2 times in quick succession plus the fumble by Shepherd. The fact that we probably should have won the game near the end of the game but fiddled it away was probably Karma. But that is on AR and Lafleur.

We were underdogs going into this game and people said that we were definitely outclassed. But in fact we are not and we showed it in the first half. But I agree that Pettine is not a good D co-ordinator. I dont know who scouted Kirksey but ( and I never thought I would be saying this ) he is a step down from Martinez. P Smith is not a good player either. I thought that mostly our Dbacks played well and knocked a lot of passes down this game and offered pretty tight coverage. The Colt first touchdown is definitely on Pettine - he has the linebackers totally confused and other teams get us too deep too fast and we cant handle it.

I am not going to blame MVS and say anything bad - how can you - didnt Adams lose a fumble and cost us a TDi in a game? He tried to do too much without securing the ball which is what Adams did.

The team should have brought in a punter in the offseason and probably should use one against the Bears - you just cannot lose that much field position because a guy cant kick it 40 plus yards.
I hope that Linsely is OK but he is not getting a new or big contract - you dont pay a man who has injury especially back injury issues along the line.

All in all -we need to get our S together and beat the Bears - It is a home game for Fsss sakes - It is a game on Sunday Nite with all the Thanksgiving fans - play like it. We got lucky today as both the Lions and Vikes got beat. Now Lafleur - do you job and get the guys up and ready to play the Bears . When a team comes out flat at home - You point the finger at yourself.

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Crazedcamel's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:45 pm

Jenkins is our center of the future, probably our best OL, even over Bakh.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

November 23, 2020 at 03:53 am

Nah. Jenkins is good at LG, RT, OC and even LT. But he isn't as good as Sitton or Lang were at OG, and he isn't as good at OC as Linsley is this year, or as good as Bulaga was at RT. He is a plus player at five positions.

Bakh is dominant at LT. Bakh over Jenkins isn't a close call.

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canadapacker's picture

November 23, 2020 at 09:20 am

You may be correct stats wise - but we will need to move on from Linsley next season, You cannot give an aged and a player with a back injury big bucks or long term. We had to move on from both Sitton and Lang and they only got under 3 years with their new teams. Think that Runyon might be next into the lineup as a starter unless Njiman really improve we might need a free agent.

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Christian Roussel's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:22 pm

I know the draft is for the future, but the fact that the Packers have absolutely no contribution from their first THREE picks is unacceptable. And hurting this team big time.

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:24 pm

So we beat the Bears next week everyones gonna be feeling great ya know Thanksgiving and then BAM the Titans run for 300 yards on this defense and we remember again how we're only good enough to beat inferior teams. Dont tell me about how they beat the Saints without Michael Thomas.

You guys see what the Steelers did to the Jaguars today? What a real team does to inferior teams? Not just like scrape by? But thats what happens when you know how to draft receivers and devote the proper resources to BUILDING A DEFENSE. STARTS WITH THE FRONT 7.

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canadapacker's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:32 pm

I watch most of that game and the Jags put up a fight and Steelers only had a 14 point lead into the 4th. So come on man - Our problem is that we have not been building our middle linebacking corps. Especially under TT we have been putting our picks into D backs. At least last year we got the Smiths and got pressure and that allowed our D backs to get some takeaways - but we still didnt have a middle and that is why the run game killed us. But I agree with your statement - Front 7 - we paid Kenny but we need another killer D lineman next to him and P Smith needs to go and we need help on that side and in the middle.

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MITM's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:10 pm

EXACTLY we spend high picks on DBs, Steelers spend em on DL ILB and EDGE....who has better success? Its not a complicated concept that we havent seemed to pick up

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 23, 2020 at 06:32 am

If it's a "we" problem are you saying that you are included in issues? Because you are obviously including yourself as part of the organization. Perhaps paying attention to your front office job instead of posting here would be a more productive use of your time.

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Packerpasty's picture

November 23, 2020 at 08:38 am

in case you haven't noticed many Packer fans or any fans of any team use the phrase "we"...I assume your smart enough to know that , or are you just a regular smart ass???

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

November 23, 2020 at 09:45 am

Apparently you cannot comprehend a dig at a demonstrated moron. I assume you're not smart enough to notice that.

Also, please notice the correct use of "you're", as opposed to your incorrect usage of "your.

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nostradanus's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:36 pm

Year end wish list

Pettine- gone

Menenga - gone

Shepherd- gone

Scott - gone

P. Smith - gone

MVS - balls deep er deep balls only please

Crappy loss

Let’s friggin murder da Bears!

That is all....

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splitpea1's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:43 pm

"Why on earth does this team have so much trouble regaining momentum? Once the avalanche starts, it has no ability to regain its footing." This is the million dollar question. I hope one of the authors here would be willing to take up this topic because it would sure generate a lot of discussion, and hopefully, some concrete answers. It starts with MLF being ready with some creative and quick offensive adjustments on the field and, of course, the defense being able to mitigate the avalanche by either forcing a punt or turnover.

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JerseyCheese's picture

November 22, 2020 at 08:48 pm

Negative Nagler!

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4thandinches's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:37 pm

I'm confused as to why our secondary has communication breakdowns when the the starters return.

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Rossonero's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:02 pm

Pros:
- Better energy in 1st half
- Great start to the game
- Nice to see Lazard back
- TEs heavily involved
- Defense forced numerous Colts FGs
- Batted passes at line of scrimmage from Gary, Winn and Lancaster
- We're still 7-3 and in command of the NFC North
- Vikings and Lions lost today too
- Jenkins stepping in at Center without missing a beat

Cons:
- Still not playing a full 4 quarters with energy, focus and execution.
- Colts coaching staff made halftime adjustments; the Packers did not
- Poor ball security
- Losing Linsley. If it's a ruptured disc in his back, then he's done for the season probably.
- Too many mental mistakes on defense (blown coverages)
- Still looking for consistent punting after all these years
- Whatever defense Pettine is calling on 3rd & long, it ain't workin!
- MVS can make you jump for joy one moment, then pulling your hair out the next with blown routes, drops or turnovers.

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flackcatcher's picture

November 22, 2020 at 09:01 pm

Random Thoughts: This was the closest thing to a bare knuckle brawl we will see in the 'New NFL'. Game officials lost control right out of the second half. Both teams D/O lines, no quarter given, none asked. Lost is squarely on MLF and Rodgers. Locking on Adams when he isn't 100% (not even 70%) cost this team in the third quarter when the game was in the balance. Defense: Why play ten yards off the LOS. Because the QB on the other side is almost as good as your future hall of fame QB, that's why. And yet, this maligned defense found a way to shut down a top AFC offense when the game was on the line. Not once, but twice. MLF could learn from Pettine on how to rally his unit. That said, the lack of DL personnel did bite this unit today. That's on Gute. He knew this was a problem and did not address the issue. (Yes Winn played well when he was out on the field. Short term stopgaps do not solve long term problems) Starting to get this Mike Sherman vibe from MLF... Packers turnovers that wasn't led to turnover that was. (Thanks NY. Now go and die, die, DIE!!!) I need a beer.....

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SteelyPhil's picture

November 22, 2020 at 10:02 pm

Had a feeling this was going to be a loss when we went 3-and-out in the first drive of the 3rd quarter. 4 turnovers is brutal; the soft defensive scheme is worse. The single most impactful thing that would make me hope that this team could turn it around and win some postseason games is if they left Pettine in Indianapolis.

This game was hard to watch, and yet the Packers were probably just one fewer costly mistake away from winning this one. But they didn't, and they didn't deserve to. Gutted looking at the team we have and believing in your heart of hearts that this isn't the year either.

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CoachDino's picture

November 22, 2020 at 10:45 pm

As Arod goes the Packers Go
Just a question - that I can't answer. How many points does 4 turnovers account for?
For fun, Take that amount and subtract it from the 31 the Defense gave up in reg.
How many more minutes did the D have to be on the field, how much rest between possessions? How many points do the Packers score w/o 4 turnovers? Add that to the 31 they did put up.
The final score being a blowout win.

You play to win the game - not stats. Point being that everyone has an idea of what the Packers are capable on Offense.
Everyone also know the ability of the defense.

So you create a game plan that will give you the best chance of winning - Big part of creating the game plan knowledge of the team.

1) As ARod goes the team goes. How he executes counts for so much of the outcome.
2) Teams are going to score on you - Indy made plays as good teams will.
3) As pointed on this comments section - 4 Turnovers is leaving you a 10% chance of winning.

Once again pointed out just yesterday on this board - The game comes down to execution
The lack of execution seemed to be the real reason IMHO, that they lost.

I can't remember a team having so many injury issues with ILB and DB, could be a factor possible lack of cohesiveness/continuity. That will account for some of the breakdowns, but in the big boy league these guys need to be ready. I still have hopes for pettine but the coach is paid, as are the players, to be prepared. Finding out why and implementing a solution is the first place I go to fix the lack of execution to help this team in the short term.

I think they can improve and they showed me some good things hidden under the cloud of the loss.
This offense can put up points on anyone and plenty of them.
This team can create a pass rush. Gary and Clark are good and Z can just be a beast.
Arod is a stud, puts up 31 with 4 turnovers on offense.

Still about peaking at the right time.....

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