Gut Reactions: Lions 31 Packers 0

Aaron gives his gut reactions to the season ending loss to the Detroit Lions. 

  • Explain to me again why Aaron Rodgers played in this game? 
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marpag1's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:52 pm

Between the game itself and the ridiculously horrible announcers, I think I never want to watch football again.

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Chad Lundberg's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:21 pm

But that fake punt was just sooo amazing marpag1...

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mamasboy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 08:46 pm

Dert, Pettine doesn't coach special teams. He's one of the coaches who actually has a brain in his head.

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:24 pm

Please don't call the D-coach "stupid" when you're b*tching about a Special Team play.

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Cartwright's picture

December 31, 2018 at 11:58 am

Sorry can't give Pettine a pass on that he coaches him too, how basic a thing to overlook, it's special teams but Jackson is still playing defense in that situation, it goes down as one of the worst play in team history, Prater, of all people throwing for a TD, how pathetic. It reminded me of my all time worst play that I still remember and they mentioned the game which was the last time Detroit shutout the Packers at home in 1970, 40 to nothing and that's when Greg Landry the quarterback ran a quarterback sneak for 80 yards, it was his only play that game and I think it's a record for the longest quarterback sneak in history. For reminding me of that awful moment, deep six these coaches, chuck them all.

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John Galt's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:08 pm

3rd year of not watching the NFL and it sure looks like I am not missing anything. I watched all the Lombardi era NFL championship games. I will remember those much more than games today.

So, question for everyone: In what year will the Packers have a winning season again?

2022 or earlier?
2023 or later?

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:15 pm

I'll take the under on that.

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:28 pm

If the question was what year they'll win the division again, I'd take the over.

Should be able to eek out a 9-7 somewhere before 2022.

This is back to back losing seasons. Rodgers has been hurt for his 2nd straight and actually 3 out of 4 if you count his calf injury. Doesn't bode well for the future. He's not going to get healthier as he ages.

Makes the contract extension look beyond stupid. In same category of stupid of playing him today or last week.

I'll be curious to see how sites like this and others fare over the next few years. I think a lot of fans jumped on in the Favre years and don't know losing seasons. It's 2 and counting now and not better than 50-50 next year will be an over .500 year. Many may jump ship if not now, when 2019 doesn't get off to a great start.

The 70's and 80's were mostly rough. Things might get better when Murphy is jettisoned.

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pooch's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:42 pm

Thumbs donw for John Kirk comment on extension was bad.Packers fans are brain dead retards then

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:59 pm

You're right pooch...it wasn't bad...it was abhorrrent. I apologize for soft-selling it.

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Barnacle's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:57 pm

Rodgers extension was foolish, we had him under contract for two years and could franchise him two more IF HE WAS WORTH IT. But instead, now we have destroyed our salary cap on a player with three concussions and a John Brockington mindset.

Did you hear about the conversation between Rodgers and Mathews. Mathews asked Rodgers if he was playing the whole game. Rodgers said yes, then Mathews said then he would also. Who in the heck is running this team and manageing the assets that we pay 10’s of millions? Is it left up to players to decide if they will play or not. This sounds like an unmanaged team of multi millionaire union guys with too much power. Those same two spend lots of time making commercials.

Earth to Murphy, please wake up and show these moron coaches that you have hired how to manage. How can you leave it up to millionaire players to decide if they want to play or not. Did you happen to notice the abject stupidity of allowing Rodgers to play in a meaningless game. Drew Brees sat out . Was Drew the smart one or was it the GM or the HC.?

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 31, 2018 at 12:11 am

Bravo Barnacle, bravo!!

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Hawg Hanner's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:04 pm

You folks attacking Murphy are misguided. Bad drafting is the root cause of all that ails the Pack and let's be honest, no where near a plurality was calling for Thompson's head two years ago. I say we are lucky to have Murphy instead of some wealthy suit who never played the game, nor got an MBA, nor went to law school, nor was an NFL exec, nor a league officer.

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D.D.Driver's picture

December 30, 2018 at 08:44 pm

Under Murphy/Gutenkunst the Packers have gotten *worse*. It's too early to tell, but you'd at least like to see some signs of improvement. I love Alexander and the trade down to pick up an extra pick was savvy. But, aside from that, there isn't a ton to get excited about the way Murphy/Gute have built the roster. There may be more holes to fill in 2019 than 2018. We are going backwards, here.

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:47 pm

Magic Mark is a pariah. Gutekunst is uninspiring.

We even need a punter after curiously getting rid of Vogel and wasting a 5th-rounder on JK Scott. Brian acted like his picks were luxuries not necessities foolishly wasting a 2nd, 3rd and 4th on the trio of Josh Jackson, Oren Burks, and J'Mon Moore. Add that to the punter and long snapper misses. He also did a brutal job of background checking, wasting a pick on Cole Madison who likely had mental health issues so bad that his head couldn't possibly be on football. I feel for that kid. He was Tyler Hilinski's best friend.

The best parts of our org were not Ted Thompson and Brian Gutekunst. It appears now that Dorsey, McKenzie, Wolf and Highsmith were integral parts. What's left is a veritable "B-team" front office headed by Mark Murphy who went full on micro-manager after years as a neglectful absentee landlord.

If it sounds like I'm down because of this season that isn't the case. The wheels have been coming off for years. I thought this team would be battling for the basement before the season started. Although, they have a better record than Detroit, it's pretty clear they're not better than Detroit.

Those that believe a new HC will just automatically turn us into the Rams, that is an outlier. The odds are this team is heading further down the path of losing seasons.

Brian doesn't know who to sign. He missed on Mack and added Jimmy Graham and the unimpressive Mo Wilkerson and fossil Williams for sentimental reasons. None provided anything close to a level of winning football. Total wastes of financial resources. To compound that Brian thought all of them were good additions. He lacks the ability to admit failure. That's a very troublesome quality. He whiffed on all 3 FA acquistiions and had a very below average first draft.

Honestly, it feels like Tom Braatz is back running the show. Dark times lie ahead. I anxiously await 2021 when Rodgers can be moved on from. I'll bet the org is begging to take the 11.5 mil dead cap hit to be rid of him when the time comes. We'll see.

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jeepingmakooi's picture

December 31, 2018 at 06:50 am

Hard to get excoted? I bet before the defense was falling apart ad losing 9 of 11 starters you were excited.. all the door and gloom around a team with a decimated roster and everyone wants to hang the GM and president of the team... It's incredibly difficult to win the war of attrition

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John Kirk's picture

December 31, 2018 at 01:42 pm

No. I wasn't. If you read what I posted, I told you I predicted the Packers woudl be battling for the basement with Detroit before the season started.

The doom and gloom has NOTHING to do with the record. It has to do with direction and who is directing.

If you trust Mark Murphy more power to you. I think you're a fool. I couldn't work for that guy. I have watched his pressers and heard his interviews. No respect for him at all. I find him incredibly distasteful.

Brian is a "nice" guy. Not the aggressive a$$ kicker needed. He's not the alpha male type. Murphy is a weak deluded egomaniac. That combo is wholly unimpressive and if you care to look at who is actually in our org I think you'd be horrified if you looked and understood what is here now vs. what was here many years ago. It's truly a "B team" ... it's like having 2nd and 3rd stringers in our front office. What is that going to get you?

We need A people in this org. We currently have ZERO in the front office. Pettine is the closest we have to an A type around here. We have few A players to go along with it.

Not sure why anyone would be overly optimistic outside of just wishing it to be so? This is going to get much uglier before it gets better.

If you think you're going to be bragging to your buddies that the Packers are NFCN champs next season, I think you're horribly out of touch with where this org is at.

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shmelbs's picture

December 31, 2018 at 12:24 pm

If it's too early to tell, then can you say we've gotten worse?

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EddieLeeIvory's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:38 pm

Agreed 100%.

A lot of Packer fans were complaining about GM Thompson years ago....a few more a year later, and many more by 2017..... I suppose there might still be a few TT-brainwashers who still think he was a good GM.
But it's clear to all the rest of us now that HIS "Draft&Develop" only strategy killed this franchise since 2014. Horrific drafts, coupled with being a stubborn old anti-free agency guy, closed the Rodgers window.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:52 pm

It wasn't the strategy that killed them. It was the poor execution of the strategy that killed them.

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:59 pm

What does that mean? Sounds an awful lot like coach speak blaming phantom things when things don't go well.

You're one of the most erudite folks here so I'm interested in hearing what you mean by your comment?

Also, does it really matter if stratgegy is sound if it's poorly excecuted?

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 11:13 pm

It means they made a whole slew of bad personnel decisions. We've hashed them all out over the past several years. Some were poor draft choices, others were mistakes in re-signing their own or letting their own walk and still others were in their vet FA choices on the rare occasions they entered that market.

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John Kirk's picture

December 31, 2018 at 01:49 pm

Where in this is the plan was sound? The execution has been terrible but I don't see any sound decision making that you alluded to above.

Deep down do you honestly think Murphy/Gutekunst is a dynamic winning combo, or do you find yourself trying to convince yourself that it is just because you love the Packers?

I don't believe there is a single person here or elsewhere who truly believes we have the right people in this org to turn it around. We have a lot of sycophantic wishers and hopers.

I'd love to feel differently but I don't and that's for a reason and that's not because I'm negativve. I'm real with myself and don't pretend anything. This org has been frustrating for several years now.

The HC hire better be old Aaron Rodgers level to cover for the FO like Rodgers covered for a weak roster forever. Short of that, this team is looking at a string of losing seasons that could mirror the "winning" seasons talked about like they were Super Bowls of the past.

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:56 pm

Absolutely. It's amazing what a little losing will do for one's vision. Those with true vision saw before the losing. A lot of us did.

If you can't see now what's most likley to happen going forward, I feel for you. That transition is going to be mighty rough. It's not easy adjusting to unmet expectations

Now that Ted and MM are gone we're about half way to what we really need to be relevant again. Rodgers to depart so Gutekunst, Murphy, Ball, etc. get cleaned out and this whole thing starts from the bottom all over again.

I'd be much prouder of a team that is truly building under excellent direction than one that is flailing under poor leadership. This org has been so frutstrating. Please, spare me the "how lucky we've been" speech. All a matter of perspective and mine is that of squandering a rare talent that is unlikely to ever grace us again. I think you pay for such things..and we will pay.

When Wolf and Holmgren got here that was as exciting as it's ever been for me. I look forward to a potential duo like that in a few years.. Murphy and Gutekunst is just so so depressing.

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:55 pm

Dup.

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Wendell Stamps's picture

December 31, 2018 at 01:29 am

Fish rots from the head.

Sh!t rolls down hill.

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John Kirk's picture

December 31, 2018 at 05:03 pm

Amen, Wendell. That fish at the top stinks to high heaven but he thinks he smells like a rose and counts on the dupe element in our fanbase to hide behind.

The non koolaid element of this base knows you're a fraud, Mark. I hope you don't prove it over the next few years, but I fear you will.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:21 pm

John Galt, if you're in your 3rd year of not watching the NFL, why are you commenting here? It doesn't make sense.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:24 pm

Because he's lying.

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Ferrari Driver's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:09 pm

Dash, I'm guessing, but he may feel somewhat like I do and I do remain a Packer fan and still go from California to Green Bay about once a year to watch in person and watch the others on TV. My interest started to wane when they started making the games other than a chance to eliminate that sickening political crap I see on TV and hear about all too often. I'm no hero, but I do admire what the heroes in uniform have done to protect me and my family and a great many of them felt badly when players started the kneeling during the anthem. I just wish demonstrations could be done during times other than when I just want to sit back and enjoy watching a game I never excelled at but still love.

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SwissCheeze's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:00 pm

You’re a damned idiot to think the kneeling had anything to do with the military.

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SwissCheeze's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:00 pm

You’re a damned idiot to think the kneeling had anything to do with the military.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 30, 2018 at 08:53 pm

While I understand your point, Ferrari Driver, other than receiving a large chunk of cash from the Department of Defense, why is the NFL involved at all in a salute to service/recruiting for the military? Also, why the need to sing/play the National Anthem prior to sporting events?

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Ferrari Driver's picture

December 31, 2018 at 11:29 am

LeotisHarris: While I understand your point, Ferrari Driver, other than receiving a large chunk of cash from the Department of Defense, why is the NFL involved at all in a salute to service/recruiting for the military? Also, why the need to sing/play the National Anthem prior to sporting events?

Hey LH, I think I have become somewhat sensitive because I used to watch the news years ago to hear what was going on in the world and country. Nowadays, I don't hear the news; all I hear from every source is commentators/reporters criticizing democrats or criticizing republicans or the sitting President, for whichever party is in power at the time.

I have observed that that most every country sings/plays their national anthem prior to sporting events and I personally don't recall seeing anyone present being disrespectful during that time. As I said, I'm not hero, but I do consider those who put their life on the line to protect you and me and better ensure our way of life are people I admire and while some may not be concerned about protests about the flag, there are some who are offended and I would not want to offend those who have sacrificed so much and earned so little compared to people like me.

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Packerpasty's picture

December 31, 2018 at 09:14 am

had nothing to do with the military, I'm a vet and I have no problem with the kneeling, and many active and vets supported it...you must be smart enough to know what it was all about....

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ricky's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:36 pm

"Who is John Galt?" was an "in" question at my high school (I graduated in 1968). A lot of us thought Ayn Rand was really cool/smart. Then we grew up. And realized it was drivel/nonsense. What works so well in novels, where the author controls everything, doesn't work in the real world, where it's adherents can have devastating effects on real people's lives.

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Handsback's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:05 pm

ricky... I'm an author and work in the real world. Uncover was my first novel and won Peoples Choice award for fiction.
There are a lots of authors and publishers that are still stuck in the high brow "big question" attitude, but there are a lot of us working stiffs that write books that are fun to read.

This Packers team could be compared to the last book of a 5 book series that has strung the story line two books too long and the readers have lost interest.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:05 pm

*People's

*Award

*a lot

*storyline

Fortunately there are also many authors who can write.

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fthisJack's picture

December 31, 2018 at 09:04 am

Galt...I thought Rambo killed you.

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fthisJack's picture

December 31, 2018 at 09:04 am

Galt...I thought Rambo killed you.

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fthisJack's picture

December 31, 2018 at 09:04 am

Galt...I thought Rambo killed you.

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GBPDAN1's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:13 pm

I mentioned in a post this week that Rodgers should sit and I got thumbs downs

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:21 pm

I gave you a thumbs up, Dan.

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GBPDAN1's picture

December 31, 2018 at 12:52 am

Thanks, JimR. I just thought it wasn't worth the risk. And sure enough, he gets drilled in the head. 133M needs to be protected in meaningless game. Aaron Naglar and Corey agree with me. Sorry thumb downers, but Rodgers ended up in an Ambulance, per reports. Just wasn't worth it.

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Lare's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:11 pm

It would appear that the Packers disagreed with all three of you.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:26 pm

That's OK.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:59 pm

Well, it appears that the FO for far too long didn't realize that TT was past it. It appears that the Packers haven't realized how bad Zook is as a coordinator. The appeal to authority worked better about five years ago,

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Rebecca's picture

December 30, 2018 at 06:19 pm

I’m proud of you. Thumb way up!

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:25 pm

Join the club.

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BobWellhoefer's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:47 pm

Me too. Who looks stupid now?

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:29 pm

The Packers, Lare, HankScorpio, Fastmoving, Since 61, and many others I can't remember offhand that said Aaron Rodgers should play that last two games. Lare and Hank I could see but Since 61 I can't believe could not see the danger and damage that this could cost us if something bad happened to Rodgers with less than ideal border fencing protecting Rodgers. It was simply common sense not to play him but so many for some reason chose to roll the dice. Now we are in much worse shape.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:10 pm

I got the same last week. I was really worried he'd get injured in a low reward game. Now it happened.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 31, 2018 at 12:25 am

Yeah, I remember Jeremy. You were one of the first true patriots to voice your objections to playing him and you got shit on by many here. Many like myself had your back on this and also got shit on by the Pro Gullible crowd. Now THEY must live with the consequences. They are responsible for a 3rd possible career ending concussion for the greatest qb that ever played the game. All for what?

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marpag1's picture

December 31, 2018 at 02:42 am

True patriots?? LLLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLL.

Lighten up, Francis. You had an opinion. Some people disagreed. Deal with it.

geez.... LOL.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 31, 2018 at 04:17 am

Patriots are in NE not GB Dash

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Lare's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:53 pm

To earn enough money for a shave and a haircut?

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Jordan's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:14 pm

Two bits.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Rebecca's picture

December 31, 2018 at 10:58 am

What are “2 bits”? Is this old guy talk for something?

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:33 pm

If the Arizona game was enough to get MM fired, this one ought to cost Philbin the courtesy interview.

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:09 pm

Agree Hank Scorpio, if this is truly an "audition" then Philbin failed the audition to have this team even remotely prepared to play.

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Rak47's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:17 pm

If the players wanted Philbin as coach they sure didn't show it. Especially when you consider how out of playoff teams TB, Atlanta, and N.Y. played today with professionalism and pride.

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pooch's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:44 pm

Carolina with 3rd string qb

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GBPDAN1's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:18 pm

At least we traded for a good backup QB. Hundley junior looks great..... SMH

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:35 pm

Well Hank, I hope you and your group of "play Rodgers at all costs/screw the draft position" are happy after today. You got your qb exposed after the false positive Jets game and you got your qb concussed for the third time in his career in a meaningless game. You also gave any head coach pause to even think of wanting to coach this train wreck with Rodgers NOW OFFICIALLY clearly regressing. You should have listened to the "sit Rodgers" the last two weeks group. We were the smart ones. Apparently Nagler was also a part of our group which doesn't surprise me as Nagler is highly intelligent.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:34 pm

Still trying to pick a fight? Have fun with that, Dash.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:37 pm

No fight. Just pointing out how stupidly wrong you were. You also said Patricia being late for a meeting would cause his team to get killed today. lol.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:50 pm

Ah, I see. Well thanks for letting me know you think I was stupidly wrong. I never would have guessed without that overt mention.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:55 pm

You're welcome Hank. Now if you will excuse me I'm late for a meeting with some reporters. If I don't leave now all hell will break loose. See you later Hank.

Dash

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Lare's picture

December 30, 2018 at 06:05 pm

Um, whatever.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:42 pm

One of your best takes ever Lare. I am holding you and Hank responsible for Rodgers' injury if it's real. Even if it's not, he still took a vicious shot. Now all you have left is "Um, whatever".

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Packerpasty's picture

December 31, 2018 at 09:17 am

"um whatever"...move on to the draft please..seasons over, no one left to bash but management now, players are off to warmer climes....

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reefkeeper's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:58 pm

Smart ones......hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

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11Bravo1p's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:01 pm

I don't know Hank, but I think Dash may be overstating Hank's control/influence over the Packer's personnel decisions on game days.

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MikeS's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:30 pm

Rash Diprock doesn't know squat about anything!

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:50 pm

Everything I was worried about by playing Rodgers in a needless game has come true so don't come here and tell me I don't know squat. I predicted it. Many other highly intelligent people did as well. You clearly have a bias toward intelligent people. If I am wrong about something I say it. Thankfully I have yet to be wrong about anything since I've been here. Knock on wood.

Dash

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:10 pm

Trust me, MikeS, Dash knows squat. He invented squat, bub, and if you're wise you'll walk back that statement before objects start to fly around your house for no reason and our clocks start running backwards.

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PeteK's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:47 pm

There is a similarity here, todays game and your comments. Please not today, your bordering on sadism. The horror .

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:39 pm

You don't get it. Philbin is Gutekunst's guy. Literally the first thing Gutekunst did was bring Philbin back.

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Free agent's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:44 pm

Philbin’s gone.... he won’t even get an exit interview.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:13 pm

He's gone as HC. And, he will 100% get an exit interview. I expect he still has an Assistant Coach contract.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:53 pm

Old School, you’ve been peddling that conspiracy theory for weeks. Do you have the market cornered on tin foil?

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:21 pm

So....you think that people who lead multimillion $$$$ endeavors don’t plan ahead but instead just react to what happens?

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dobber's picture

December 31, 2018 at 10:51 am

What if their "plan ahead" was to install someone as an interim that they had no plan to retain so as to prevent internal division over the HC search?

Very frequently our institution hires interim fills who we know will not have the qualifications we desire in a permanent hire in order to prevent that kind of infighting.

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:58 pm

I highly doubt it Old School, Philbin is gone and may get no more than an exit interview. Philbin IS part of this teams failure as OC. If the Arizona game was enough to move on from McCarthy, this unacceptable performance is enough to eliminate Philbin as a candidate. Murphy and Gute will move in a new direction.

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dobber's picture

December 30, 2018 at 08:47 pm

Murphy and MM had control over coach hiring. Not BG.

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reefkeeper's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:58 pm

Boyle must be really really bad if he cannot beat out Kizer.

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mrtundra's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:06 pm

The last I heard is that Boyle is injured. Cobb is our 3rd QB if Kiser were hurt.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:11 pm

Boyle was inactive. I don't think he was injured

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:22 pm

Yeah, we're saving him for later in the season. Oh, wait...

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:41 pm

The #3 QB doesn't count against the 45 man roster. If he was inactive it's because he was hurt.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:55 pm

That rule was abolished for the 2011 season, when the NFL increased the roster size to allow 46 players to dress for a game. Boyle has been inactive most of the season, not because of injury, but because he would take a roster spot.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:44 pm

It makes sense to not play Boyle. They didn't want other teams to know how great he is. The only good thing that came from this game is it exposed Rodgers and Kiser and we moved up in the draft even with Rodgers trying to win. That's how bad we are and how bad Rodgers currently is. Had Boyle played, we would have won, moved down in the draft and teams would have an eye on Boyle knowing the Packers are stuck with Rodgers for the next 6 years. Clearly not playing Boyle was a smart and strategic move.

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reefkeeper's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:01 pm

RDS for 6 more years, it is going to be fun to watch.

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carlos's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:50 pm

Injured? He hasn’t even played a down this year. Realizing the Packers this year, you’re probably right, he probably is injured. Go figure. I wanted to see him also. Still don’t understand why Donnerson wasn’t activated. Maybe he’s hurt too.

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PeteK's picture

December 30, 2018 at 06:53 pm

He throws a better pass than Huntley. He was put into a very tough position which was not helped by 4 dropped passes, two of which were first downs.

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egbertsouse's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:54 pm

They need to get rid of about 25 players before next season. They laid down like dogs.

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mrtundra's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:08 pm

They can begin with Brice. I'd be willing to bet he missed more tackles than any other Packer defender,this season.

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Thebearsstillsuck's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:25 pm

The only hit he made all year was on Wilkerson, ending his season

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:44 pm

Despite missing 3 games and playing the second half of the season hurt, he was one of our leading tacklers.

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Nick Perry's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:17 pm

He's a BUM...He doesn't tackle well and he can't cover! What a GREAT combination for a safety!

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:25 pm

And yet, two different DCs play him while they get rid of Burnett, Dix, and Whitehead. He plays ahead of Campbell, and Jones, even when he’s hurt.

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carlos's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:53 pm

Brice must’ve learned from HaHa

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:17 pm

Brice
CMIII
Cobb
Spriggs
McCray
Bulaga
Graham
Kendricks
Lewis
Pleasant
Perry
Ryan
Moore
House

Start there

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:46 pm

You realize if we cut guys like Graham and Perry their bonuses accelerate and are applied against the cap.....giving us less money to pursue free agents?

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:04 pm

They cut Perry before June to save roster bonus, he has a large roster bonus, Graham will be tougher.
Demovsky has a breakdown of Perry's contract.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:59 pm

'You realize if we cut guys like Graham and Perry their bonuses accelerate and are applied against the cap.....giving us less money to pursue free agents?'

That's fake news. Cutting either of them will give the Packers cap relief, even with the SB acceleration.

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:20 pm

Yes, it will be cap relief

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JerseyAl's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:56 pm

yes, it just wouldn't be as much.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 31, 2018 at 08:21 am

$16 mil to replace the "contribution" of Graham and Perry is plenty. I put contribution in quotes because it is sort of hard to say that either made a meaningful one.

Graham averaged 39.75 yds/game and 0.125 TDs/game. That's Jarrett Boykin-level production. Boykin was a minimum contract guy, not paid $9 mil as Graham is due for 2019.

Perry contributed a whopping 1.5 sacks on the year. That's not even Frank Zombo level production. Again, Zombo played for the minimum, not the $11 mil Perry is due this year.

If they can't replace Graham & Perry with any old schlubs off the street and make up that kind of production, they have problems that avoiding dead cap as if it was the plague of the black death won't solve. Save the $20 cash and $16 mil in cap space to invest in OL, pass rush, pass catchers or DBs or even a punter that can make an actual meaningful contributions.

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JerseyAl's picture

December 31, 2018 at 08:32 am

I'm fully in favor of sending them both on their way...

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Free agent's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:43 pm

Wounded Dogs

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:55 pm

This team would be 0-16 if they didn’t have Rodgers. I know the entire defense was hurt, but you look at the offense and they aren’t scoring 14/game if Rodgers doesn’t suit up.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:06 pm

Rodgers got 13 yards of offense in 1 quarter. Without Adams and Aaron Jones the Packers are 0-16. Let's see what Kizer can do with Adams and Jones before we write him off. I think you vastly overlook how bad Rodgers has been in 2018. Here's hoping he comes back in 2019 looking like the Rodgers of old and that Gute has a good draft and FA haul there's a lot of work to be done.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:18 pm

@Jonathan Spader. The same Kizer who piloted an 0-16 team before being traded? I believe it was MJS that wrote an article last season leading up to the GB/CLE showdown. Basically stated that the browns were/are more talented top to bottom than GB. I believe it. It took 3 Rodgers miracles to get 3/6 wins. Do you think Kizer could lead comebacks against the Bears or Jets in those circumstances, because I don’t.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:49 pm

We won more games last year.

Lots of teams win games without Aaron Rodgers. His record as a starter over the last 4 years? 30-23-1.

It's not 2011 anymore, and he's not an elite QB anymore.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:01 pm

multiple post sorry

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:12 pm

@dash. And people thought Favre was washed pre-McCarthy too. Look how that hire turned the fortunes of an aging QB around.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:41 pm

After one season with McCarthy, Favre put his home up for sale. One more season and he engineered a fake retirement.

Two seasons together.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 30, 2018 at 08:55 pm

And Favre still helped lead the team to an NFCC game, and played in another NFCCG after he left GB. He obviously proved he wasn’t washed. What’s your point about the house?

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:32 pm

My point is that Favre didn’t intend to play for McCarthy and Thompson. He mad up his mind after one season that he was leaving......no matter what, one way or another.

And you are correct: Favre still had plenty of ability to choke in the clutch.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 31, 2018 at 12:53 am

Favre’s 30 Fourth Quarter Comebacks, 45 Game-Winning Drives would strongly disagree with your viewpoint of him being a choke artist. I’m sure you thought he was a choke artist when he was hoisting a Lombardi too right?

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Leatherhead's picture

December 31, 2018 at 09:41 am

Six interceptions in a playoff game, the Philly Phling, his last pass as a Packer and what he did in Minnesota.

No player has ever choked away as many games as Favre, not even close.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 31, 2018 at 10:58 am

I'll see your Favre, and raise you a Matt Ryan SB choke...Favre never did that.

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ShanghaiKid's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:04 pm

@old school. Rodgers also was responsible for the 4-1 start. Post Rodgers the team was 3-7 excluding the MN because who knows what happens if Rodgers finishes or Hundley gets a full week of prep.

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Doug_In_Sandpoint's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:55 pm

Hope we win the offseason. It’s all we have.

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HankScorpio's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:14 pm

They have improved their draft pick to 12 as of now. If Denver can upset LAC or Cincy can upset Pitts, it will move even closer to the front of the draft order. Next, we can pull for a 1 and done from NO to drop that pick from 32 to 28.

Either way, it's 3 picks in the first 44 and $40 mil (or more) in cap space.

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Aubrey's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:28 pm

He was concussed on the second play, so it's a bit harsh to judge him after that.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:50 pm

He was stupid for even playing the last two weeks. Some might argue he was concussed all season. His decision making process is different from years past and it should be concerning for anyone who loves this football team. He can't even decide who to throw the ball too and it's getting worse and worse. Next season I could easily see him with 150 plus throwaways.

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reefkeeper's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:13 pm

Some may argue the same for you and a few others on here.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:06 pm

I bet many who suffer from RDS would agree with you.

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MikeS's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:39 pm

Again, Rash Diprock no not of what he speaks.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 31, 2018 at 05:14 am

RDS = Rash Diprock Syndrome?

Aka a dash too much of Dash?

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Cwilly's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:16 pm

I’d love to see Rodgers traded so all of the pack fans that don’t live in reality can watch him win another bowl while Boyle proves he can’t win a game if his life depended on it. Rodgers didn’t have the greatest year but this team has many more flaws than most. Overpaid aging players that don’t deserve to be on this roster and tt’s last draft picks being outright awful. He built a great team until 2013 or so. Since he drafted some awful players. And was awful in the first round besides Kenny Clark. Again I’m not drinking any kool aid like some of you think. Rodgers deserves the money for what he’s done and isnt his fault that coaches and management wasted his best years. But I say trade him so he can win another super bowl and Green Bay rebuild. But in the process you and many others will see that finding a qb doesn’t fall into your lap.

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:41 pm

QB's dont just fall into your lap.
That is why i propose building a team that doesnt require an elite QB in order to operate. I want to get away from a team built around an elite QB and instead develop a team which gives any decent QB a realistic opportunity to win games.

Do that, and you dont have to reach to find the next great QB in the meantime- you can win games while you're looking for the right QB of the future.

And when you do find him- watch out! because you already have a defense and a ground game.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 08:03 pm

Oppy, you have suggested it, I have suggested it. It's the only way to go. I just hope the Packers do follow your strategy. Right now with them signing Rodgers to that contract when they didn't have too leads me to believe they'll more than likely F this up and dig an even deeper hole long term. If they go short term and build around Rodgers we could be screwed for 10 plus years or even longer. People better pray I'm right about Boyle if that's the case.

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:16 pm

Yeah, that's what it was. He was concussed on the second play.

Sorry, not buying it.

He stunk the place up, he was holding the ball with open WRs on the field, he was getting pressured and hit, and they benched him and put in the kid.

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reefkeeper's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:20 pm

Not buying your BS either.

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:26 pm

Open your eyes.

Rodgers poor play hurt the packers all season long.

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Lare's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:37 pm

Yes, and even in an off year he was still the 5th ranked QB in the NFL this season.

Give Rodgers some receivers, an above average OL and an offensive scheme & playcalling that gives them all a chance to succeed and I think you'll see him play better next season.

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:56 pm

It's everyone's fault but Rodgers again.

All you have to do is isolate on what a player actually does, and you see the truth.

Rodgers threw more ugly balls in 2018 than I've ever seen from him. Under, over thrown. Poorly placed. Over WR's heads, at their feet. Behind them towards the coverage instead of out in front of them, leading the WR to open field. So many yards left out on the field because of poor throws. Not even mentioning open WRs in progression he simply either ignored or didn't see, looking for something bigger or someone he "trusts", resulting in stalled drives.

There's nothing wrong with the receiving corps. Everyone knows the right side of the line needs desperate overhaul. Rodgers has been changing the plays at the LOS is has passionately defended the offense when he was asked about MM changing it (there's nothing wrong with it in the first place, he told us.).

I have to believe Rodgers plays better in 2019 because it would be hard for him to play worse. 2018 was a great example of the stats not telling the whole story. Aaron Rodgers net performance in 2018 hurt the GBPs.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:17 pm

What is clear, is that for some reason Aaron Rodgers could not execute in a offense built for him. We all saw that live and in color this season. Why? Who the heck knows. But the Packers and Rodgers better figure it out quick, otherwise.....

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Nick Perry's picture

December 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

Sorry oppy...Not saying it's everybody's else fault but between the scheme and the lack of playmakers it would have been tough for any so called "Elite QB"

Nelson and others have said it takes 3 years to truly learn the WR position in the current Packers offensive scheme and for the most part that's been 100% true. Jennings and Jones had somewhat successful 1st seasons but that was with Farve, a QB who NEVER shied away from receiver he didn't think he could hit.

Again Rodgers doesn't get off without blame, but this offense LACKS playmakers..Period! It's time to spend some friggen resources on the offensive side of the ball AND give Gute more than one season with minimal cap space to fix this roster!

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 11:15 pm

I wasn't aware Nelson ever said that. I know packers fans and talking heads talk about it all the time because our WR's numbers generally don't raise eyebrows until around year 3, but I always figured that was a product of MM not giving WRs a ton a playing time until Rodgers felt he could "trust" them, more than the WR's just not grasping the offense.

as to playmakers:

Davante adams is a play maker. I'm a huge fan, have been since draft day.

Allison was a playmaker while healthy (even though most of Packers nation wants to discount him.) only 20 targets unfortunately, but a 15.2 YPC in 2018 with 2 TDs over 5 games.

MVS and EQ, both made big time plays. What they needed was more targets.

Davante adams had 170 targets.
MVS: 65.
EQ: 41.

Fun fact: Packers players account for (4) of the top 32 receivers in terms of YPC (This list includes ALL players- including guys who caught only one or two balls): Robert Tonyan (4 for 19.3), EQ (21 for 15.6), MVS (38 for 15.3) , and Geronimo (20 for 15.2).

Aaron Jones, big play maker.
Jamaal Williams makes plays, too.
In fact, Packers were #2 in the league in Yards per Rushing attempt.
However, they were DEAD LAST in the league in RUSHING ATTEMPTS.
Unacceptable.. and I have a feeling a lot of that falls on the QB checking out of runs- but that's just my opinion. None the less.. Run game = PLAY MAKERS.

Please don't talk about lack of play makers. The Packers have plenty of guys to move the chains and make big plays. Aaron Rodgers does less with more than any other top tier QB in the league.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:37 pm

Lare said: "Yes, and even in an off year he was still the 5th ranked QB in the NFL this season."

I just checked ESPN's QB rankings and Rodgers is #17. Some other sources have him at #13.

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:43 pm

I believe Lare may be looking at Total Passing Yards.
I don't believe he's trying to fleece anyone. It's all a matter of what stat are you using to define QB ranking.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:00 pm

Good point, Oppy.

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4thand10's picture

December 30, 2018 at 06:31 pm

I don’t know about all that. Cobb was gone half the season and he is a descending player, Graham didn’t do what we thought . The rest of the WRs are late round pics...all new. 3 late round picks doesn’t replace what Jordy was in the past or even what Cobb was in the past. That just left a very good Adams and a almost washed up Jimmy Graham for him to throw to. The running game is good at times but not enough to carry the offense. Rodgers earned every penny this year. Not having a functional Oline , No name WRs besides Adams. And questionable play calling all played a role.

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Oppy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 11:17 pm

Didn't know names are what make catches.

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Pierre's picture

December 30, 2018 at 11:03 pm

Hard to disagree when he only had a 61% completion rate while also throwing the ball out of bounds at an NFL season record rate for all QBs...even for rookies!
It does not bode well going forward for the Packers with Rodgers at QB unless the new coach runs each practice having him throw under a 2.5 second clock.

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PeteK's picture

December 30, 2018 at 06:57 pm

Thanks, I need some positive comments right about now.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:02 pm

duhBears knocked the Queens out of the playoffs.

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Mojo's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:01 pm

Minny out the playoffs. Haaaaa Haaaaa Haaaaa

The only good thing about this season.

I've said it before, first I want GB to win the SB then if not, the second thing I hope for is that Minny doesn't. Thanks Vikings.

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:22 pm

The manner in which the Vikings exited brought me great joy. A team improved so much at so many positions in the off season, losing at home to a division rival with the playoffs on the line. The defense that a year ago was to be the cornerstone of a dynasty shredded on the ground, and in the air. Happy New Year, and Skol, mothereffers!

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:18 pm

Doug, a lot of people are saying Murphy has the marketing folks working on partnerships with Scheels, Kwik Trip, and Shopko for 2019 Offseason Champion apparel and merchandise. Should be a huge new revenue stream!

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TimBackes's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:56 pm

Everything about that was embarrassing.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:08 pm

Fackrel got the sack he needed to break double digits. Kizer showed he can scramble and throw the deep ball with occasional accuracy. Dean Lowry batted down 2 passes.
-Bright Spots

-Dark Spots
We were shut out and humiliated by a 5-10 team at home

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:21 pm

Antonio Morrison played well, hope he can be back.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:10 pm

Spader, I can't think of a worse loss in all my years of watching Packers football. If they would have "tanked it" on purpose by playing Kizer off the bat like many of the smart people here wanted, that's one thing but they didn't tank. No, in fact Aaron Rodgers started this game, tried like hell to win it and still got killed. You talk about "momentum" and "carry over", hell yeah, this game will definitely carry over into next season in so many negative ways. People wanted Aaron to start the last two games against two bad teams. I remember asking someone, "what happens if Rodgers plays like shit, gets injured and they lose". Well, we are about to find out.

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GVPacker's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:29 pm

Dash Riprock..... Are you Skip Bayless?

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 05:38 pm

Can't be...Dash has a sense of humor.

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4thand10's picture

December 30, 2018 at 06:36 pm

It doesn’t matter....there’s a whole offseason to rest. You play to win. Not for draft picks.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

December 31, 2018 at 01:08 am

"You play to win. Not for draft picks."

Says the guy who's name is 4th and 10. If your name was 1st and 10 you might have some validity. Sorry but I prefer people who get first downs.

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PeteK's picture

December 30, 2018 at 07:02 pm

Stop hanging out under bridges.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 31, 2018 at 07:43 am

Dash,

I said that we had Rodgers locked up under contract for 2 years and could franchise him for 2 more. I said we shouldn't ever pay a player based off past deeds and that Rodgers looked like he lost a step against Carolina. We should let him play and pay him based off of current and future potential. I got chastised on CHTV with a ton of dislikes thrown my way.

I had wished then that I was wrong and that Rodgers would come roaring back. I really hoped 2018 would be Rodgers to Graham with a chip on his shoulder. That Pettine would come in and shape up the Packer defense. That the Packers would use more 2 TE packages and feature Adams and Jones more.

As a fan I am still just as hopeful for 2019 as I was for 2018. I still want Rodgers to come roaring back in 2019 with a chip on his shoulder. I still want Jones and Adams to be the focus of our offense. Rodgers can't handle the burden of carrying the Packers and doesn't have to. He needs to use his supporting cast better in 2019 or the Packers need to start moving on. I hope a new HC/OC can accomplish that and that 2019 is a fantastic year for the Packers as an organization and for us as fans. It starts with Gute and the offseason. As always GO PACK GO!

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stockholder's picture

December 31, 2018 at 08:36 am

I agreed with you on Rodgers and got the same dislikes. It was a mistake. It also hurt MM. MM lost his control over him. I said it was a mistake to fire MM for this season. It was demolition by the press, and people wanted change. This roster changed from the start of the season. They didn't care if they won. Rodgers was to blame! I said Rodgers is a china Doll now. Sunday again proved it. The reasoning is gone. Their in a rebuild. Not one Wrs stood out Sunday. They collected their salary and said next year.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 31, 2018 at 08:52 am

MVS stood out for me on Sunday. He is still raw but he had his moments. If Kizer connected with him on the deep ball I think it would have been more eye opening stockholder. ESB has flashed and had some amazing catches. Adams has been borderline unstoppable. I still have faith in Moore unlike the rest of the Packer unfaithful who is screaming to cut him the same way they screamed for Fackrel's head in 2017 offseason. People are impatient and short sighted and then blame TT when players are cut and blossom with other teams.

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stockholder's picture

December 31, 2018 at 11:31 am

Ok, But lets not judge everyone on D.Adams. St Brown was breaking out. MVs is not Randy Moss. Do you keep the defense intact? > And draft offense. I think cheesehead could do a How to improve the offense just using this draft. To fix this offense. Cut Cobb. Trade Down. Pick#1 Greg Little is your next top OL. Pick #2 Noah TE { 2nd rd. } Pick #3 Dalton Risner Pick #4 Damian Harris RB 3rd Paris CampbellWr to replace Cobb! 4th Isiah Prince Rt 4th Chris Lindstrom 5th Alex Bars 6. Deontae Crumitie , Matt Gay K 7. Patrick Laird Rb. The trade down brings a second #2. Or Fix the defense. - Replace CM3 - Montez Sweat, Replace Wilkerson- Simmons, Replace Perry - Jaylon Ferguson Replace Morrison - Tevon Coney, Replace Dix, Taylor Rapp S , Khaleke Hudson S////// or get Crazy.///// Resign CM3, keep Perry, Trade up for Oliver, Draft Simmons in first. #2 Draft Tevon Coney LB, #3 Paris Campbell WR #4? Rapp /Johnson/Hudson

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Lare's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:23 pm

If you really want to be depressed, note that Matt Prater had more touchdown passes in this game than Rodgers & Kizer combined.

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GVPacker's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:13 pm

Thats cause Matt Prater has confidence in his receivers!

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LeotisHarris's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:26 pm

There's only one person on this Board who knew Prater was a deep ball specialist, and he chose to stay silent prior to this debacle. I'm not naming names, but I think someone has some soul-searching to do.

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Aubrey's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:30 pm

Of course, this was intended to be in reply to Mr Spader. Apologies for any confusion. I think this app was coded by Ron Zook.

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Jonathan Spader's picture

December 31, 2018 at 11:04 am

Aubrey I completely missed your reply, what's up? :)

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Denise Chanterelle's picture

December 30, 2018 at 02:56 pm

Wow, Rodgers looks way older than 35 in that photo, and I'm old!

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GeorgiaCheesehead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:00 pm

Agree HankScorpiono no courtesy interview for Philbin horrible performance and he displayed a loser mentality by not trying to avoid the shutout at the end. Zook should be fired tonight.

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:10 pm

Zook should be fired this afternoon.

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Nick Perry's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:18 pm

He SHOULD have been fired WITH Slocum a few years ago.

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mrtundra's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:20 pm

Our Special Teams has been an embarrassment
all season long. Zook is done, no doubt about it.

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Lare's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:25 pm

The only possible reason that Zook wasn't fired after last week was to keep him around to help them lose this week.

They succeeded.

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pacman's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:00 pm

I really hope the plan was to lose but is management so stupid that they had to get shut out?

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mrtundra's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:21 pm

No team plays to lose.

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John Kirk's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:31 pm

Wrong. You don't remember the infamous "Suck for Luck" campaign by the Colts?

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Pilprin's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:00 pm

This team needs a talent infusion with vets and draft. Then new leadership has a fighting chance. Need playmakers on both sides

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cheesycowboy's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:01 pm

The only way to look at it is padding stats. Davante was out and Rodgers was getting teed off on.
Stay tuned. Same bat time, same bat channel. Thanks CHTV.

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kedrowiczr's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:01 pm

This performance should take care of any foolish talk of Philbin becoming the new head coach.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:51 pm

Why? Because we lost a meaningless game without most of our starters?

Philbin is going to be the guy.

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Bure9620's picture

December 30, 2018 at 04:15 pm

That was not just a loss, The Packers were not even competitive against a 4 win team at home. Even missing starters you can and should remain competitive.

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JimR_in_SoCal's picture

December 30, 2018 at 03:02 pm

On the bright side, the Packers won't loose another regular season game for at least 8 months.

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GVPacker's picture

December 30, 2018 at 09:14 pm

I look at at this way the Packers are on their "Bye Week" only it's not a "Week" but 8 Months! Aaron Rodgers should be all healed up and rested.

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