Grading The Packers Rookies: Week 1 vs. New England Patriots

Something of a tradition going back from the AllGreenBayPackers days, I'll be doing a short write up of each rookie who was drafted in 2015 to track their progress and predict their regular season contribution

While plenty of fans are more interested in seeing Aaron Rodgers throwing to Randall Cobb, I personally am more interested in Brett Hundley throwing to Ty Montgomery.  Rookies represent the true strength of the Packers and it's important in the Ted Thompson draft and develop philosophy that rookies contribute as quickly as possible.  Obviously 1st and 2nd round picks are expected to contribute faster than lower round rookies but every once in a while there will be a rookie who starts right out of the gate (like Corey Linsley last year).  With that being said overall, the 2015 rookie class played pretty much to be expected, it would have been nice to see Damarious Randall out there but Randall was ruled inactived with a groin injury so he'll have to wait until next week to make his professional debut.

Round 1: Damarious Randall (Grade: N/A) - Randall was ruled out before the game with a groin injury

Round 2: Quinten Rollins: (Grade: A) - While plenty of fans will be drawn to the fact that Rollins was step for step defending his receiver what I took as an even better sign was the fact that early in the second quarter quarterback Jimmy Garapolo did not look towards Rollins side once.  As the game went on, Rollins was tested more and more but he aquited himself with honor, probably should have intercepted two passes and made it clear that he can lay the wood.  Rollins also showed surprising awareness considering he's only played the game one year in college, correctly diagnosing the play, peeling off his responsibility and making the tackle in the flat for a minimal gain.  One interesting point is that Rollins likes to employ the "bailout" stance where he's facing the quarterback before the ball is snapped, obviously there's no chance of jamming a reciever in this stance so faster recievers will like blow past him at some point.  Whether he has enough experience to play bump and run will be something to look out for in the couple preseason games.  Finally, Rollins played almost exclusively outside corner, which might mean the Packers want to keep Hayward in the slot if at all possible. 

Round 3; Ty Montgomery: (Grade: B-) - Montgomery's biggest contribution should be as a returner and to be honest it's hard to make much of an assessment since he was way too conservative with his fair catches.  Hopefully that will change in time but at least he didn't muff any returns, which has been an issue in past seasons.  As for his ability as a wide receiver, Montgomery doesn't appear to have full command of the route tree just yet, with mostly go, fade and out routes making up the majority of his patterns.  His breaks were decent but nothing compared to Davante Adam's crispness during last year's preseason.  Montgomery did show to be a very good blocker, which is a requirement for Packers wide receiver and even managed to block 3 guys out on the Alonso touchdown run.  Montgomery did make some nice plays down the middle and operated solely out of the slot; with his imposing size (which really stands out against defensive backs) and the #88 on his back, he does look like Jermichael Finley sometimes. 

Round 4: Jake Ryan (Grade: C) - Ryan's first appearance came with the 2nd team defense alongside Carl Bradford.  While Ryan did some nice things, mainly in rushing the passer, he was only average against the run and looks a little confused at times, losing track of the ball and was acceptable in run support.  One thing that did standout was Ryan's ability to push the pocket and rush the passer, which likely comes from his time as a defensive end/outside linebacker in college.  The Packers have really been lacking a pass rushing threat on the inside since the loss of Desmond Bishop (exluding Clay Matthews whose not always a inside linebacker).  If Ryan can clean up his pass coverage (he's plenty fast enough), he would make a great 3rd down linebacker who can defend the pass as well as rush the passer.

Round 5: Brett Hundley (Grade: B) - While his offensive line didn't help him a whole lot (especially Don Barclay), Hundley was the third quarterback out and surprisingly was ahead of Matt Blanchard.  The thing that perhaps struck me as the most promising was that he acted like a pocket passer instead of a read option quarterback, by that I mean even when he was flushed out of the pocket he kept his head up and his eyes down the field.  Considering he played almost exclusively in the shotgun it's surpising that he looked natural and in sync in his 3, 5, and 7 step drops.  However when pressured, Hundley seems to shorten his release which leads to his accuracy dropping.  On the plus side, even when his passes were off target, notably his touchdown pass, it is good so see that he's at least throwing it to the right guy.  I think in time when the game slows down and he really understands the play book, the Packers could have a great quarterback to groom.  

Round 6: Aaron Ripkowski (Grade: D) - For those who thought John Kuhn's days were numbered might be showing him out the door prematurely.  While Ripkowski did make some splash plays on special teams, he was almost non-existant on offense.  Kuhn saw snaps all the way into the 4th quarter, which likely means the Packers are seeing how much left in the tank he has.  Most notably for Ripkowski, Kuhn was given a lot more plays and even an ill-fated fullback dive.  It's pretty apparent that Ripkowski has no value on passing plays; as far as I can remember Ripkowski was never in on offense for consecutive plays and when he was in it was always a running play.  At this point I'm betting the coaching staff doesn't have confidence in his ability to pass block (which is a huge deal with Aaron Rodgers behind center) and probably doesn't have much receiving ability either.  One other thing I noticed was the Ripkowski and the running back more times than not picked different holes to run through, by this I mean Ripkowski would run to block a defender only to have the running back bounce to another gap, I don't know if its Ripkowski or the running back reading the play wrong or if Ripkowski is supposed to block the backside defender, but often times Ripkowski would open a hole and the running back would be on the ground somewhere else.  Finally, While Ripkowki does lower the boom, he did whiff on a couple of blocks where just blocking teh guy rather than driving him out of the screen would have been a better play.  Overall, I don't think Ripkowski can supplant Kuhn unless he shows a lot more in the passing game.  

Round 6: Christian Ringo (Grade: B-) - Perhaps the pleasant surprise of the class, Ringo looked much better out of the gate than Khyri Thornton did a year ago.  While Ringo really only has one move, the straight bull rush, he was able to get great penetration and often times managed to slip his blocker and disrupt the passer; he came close to getting the sack a couple of times.  With the Patriots mostly passing near the end of the game, it's hard to really judge how well he would hold up setting the edge or defending the run.  Ringo is surprisingly fast for a man of his size, he gave a pretty good chase to running backs running away from him and even managed to stay on screen (he's no Sam Shields though).  

Round 6: Kennard Backman (Grade: C) - Backman was the 4th tight end up after Rodgers/Quarless and subbing for Justin Perillo after he got injured.  Overall, Backman showed good seperation in the short and intermediate route tree and functioned as a good safety value for his quarterback but didn't show much on the longer routes.  He showed some nice suddeness in his breaks for a man of his size and often lined up in the slot much like Jermichael Finley once did.  For blocking Backman was decent albeit not spectacular.  Overall, he probably has the same ceiling as Brandon Bostick but likely shows up on the field more often.  

 

Overall, the rookie of the game is naturally Quinten Rollins while Aaron Ripkowski has a lot to show to have a chance at making the 53 man roster.  But overall, this rookie class performed about as expected, the higher round players played well while lower round draft picks have some more work to do.  

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

August 14, 2015 at 08:11 am

"While Ringo really only has one move, the straight bull rush"

If your only going to have one. that's the one to have. He looked strong and fast out there. Thornton still looks like he isn't trying very hard.

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:25 am

'Thornton still looks like he isn't trying very hard'

I disagree. I saw on one running play Thornton running from the opposite side of the field down the line to help stop a running play at the sideline. He showed me a lot more hustle and a lot more last night then he did all of last preseason.
In general I thought the DL as a whole looked very good.

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 11:16 am

One good move it's too bad for a 6th round rookie, some higher round draft picks only have one more as well, but often its straight end speed which can't be taught.

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Idiot Fan's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:04 am

"...so faster receivers will likely blow past [Rollins] at some point."

The Patriot announcers on NFLN made it sound like the guy Rollins was covering was quite a burner, and Rollins seemed to hang with him pretty well. So that's encouraging at least.

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DrealynWilliams's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:55 am

"The Patriot announcers on NFLN made it sound like the guy Rollins was covering was quite a burner..."

They damn sure did.

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 11:21 am

Boyce ran a 4.38 at the combine before being drafted, but unfortunately he apparently lacks all the other aspects of being a wide receiver (or at least that's what the Patriots announcers ended up harping on during the 4th quarter)

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 11:18 am

Rollins played only off coverage and the Patriots looked to take advantage of that later in the game when they started hitting receivers on deep shallow cuts. The Patriots announcers also noted that while Boyce is a burner, he wasn't making good separation with soft cutting and Garapolo threw the ball short a lot of times.

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Clay Zombo's picture

August 14, 2015 at 02:27 pm

I think you need to go review what off coverage means because he had quite a few plays playing tight man to man coverage. At times he played off, like the big hit on White, other times he played a bail technique, where he lines up in a man to man look than bails out with his eyes on the QB. Didnt see much press and the one time he tried to bump his WR he got rocked back.

IMO hes at his best in tight man coverage not bump and run or press. His feet and backpedal are smooth as hell and he just about always locates the ball before it gets to his receiver.

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SterlingSharpe's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:09 am

Who's Matt Hundley?

Also, as the title mentions ROOKIES, not draft picks, I believe you should have mentioned LADARIUS GUNTER. He's a rookie too, and looks solid.

I told people weeks ago that Quinten Rollins has Pro Bowl ability, will be a stud fast.

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 11:24 am

Matt Hundley is the love child between Matt Flynn and Brett Hundley (thanks for the catch, it's been fixed).

As for rookies versus draft picks, I simply don't have the multitasking ability to keep track of every rookie on the field during a live broadcast so I usually keep it to only the drafted rookies. Furthermore, drafted rookies typically get more playing time so I think it's a little more fair to grade them versus the 3rd string offensive linemen who see 5 snaps, all of which are running back dives. If one UDRFA really jumps out I might try to add one more but Gunter was hard to watch cause I was watching Rollins, who was the other outside corner.

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realitybytez's picture

August 14, 2015 at 05:41 pm

lame cop-out. gunter played exactly the same number of snaps as rollins (49). he also graded out higher according to pff (+3.2 vs. +2.7). besides, the title of the article was "grading the packers rookies" not "grading the packers draft picks".

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hobbes's picture

August 15, 2015 at 11:31 am

That's my point, I can either watch Rollins with my full attention or split it between Rollins and Gunter.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 15, 2015 at 12:06 pm

Come on, Thomas, get busy growing a third independently swiveling eye already! I know I missed most of the TD pass to Janis because I was trying to focus on GB's LT and LG on that play. Fortunately, there was a replay eventually.

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Gianich's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:11 am

Gunter got at least a B+ too. Rollins and Gunter look like good ascending replacements for House (injured all the time) and Williams (in decline). Good grabs Tinkering Ted!

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Michael Lamp's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:29 am

I liked the article but would have liked to see a short piece on RB Crockett. He showed amazing speed, cutback ability, and kept pushing the pile forward when piled on with tacklers... Ala Eddie Lacy. He also has good pass catching ability out of the backfield. He's going to be a star for some team if the Pack makes the mistake of letting him go. Mark my words...

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 11:28 am

Like I said previously, I can't keep track of so many players at one time during a live broadcast so I typically keep this series to just drafted rookies.

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RCPackerFan's picture

August 14, 2015 at 09:29 am

For the other rookies, I thought Gunter, Harris and Crockett all looked good.

Crockett struggled a bit early, but after a couple of series he really started running hard. I thought he was impressive.

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 14, 2015 at 12:12 pm

I hesitate to make comments of this type. I say it out of love, and because I assume you aspire to write for someone else, and to get paid to do it. That was some damn fine analysis. Self-editing is difficult. Have someone else do it for you.

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 02:12 pm

Actually I write just to write, it's certainly not my profession or intended profession. Getting stuff out the next day certainly is not my usual MO, but I will try to do more proofreading

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MarkinMadison's picture

August 14, 2015 at 07:31 pm

Well, in that case, damn find job. Great analysis. Thanks for doing it. :-)

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 14, 2015 at 12:50 pm

On a different note, I thought one of my pre-draft fun-to-think-about prospects, Darryl Roberts, played pretty well for NE. Truth be told, while I thought Roberts had a chance, I just really thought he would be a lot of fun to watch. Malcom Brown also looked solid if unspectacular for NE at DT.

I would suggest that several players need to get healthy sooner rather than later: Goodson, Abby, (I'd say Neal and Perry are safe, but OLB depth shined pretty well), and Hubbard, Sebetic and to a lesser extent Perillo (I don't think much of Perillo and less of Backman, but it seems likely to me that GB will keep 3 TEs and one - maybe both - of these two will easily make the team initially when Quarless gets his probable suspension) need to recover from whatever injury they may have sustained.

Twice I heard Larrivee suggest that Janis came close to blocking punts.

Hard to really criticize a FB for not showing receiving ability or pass pro when he only is in on running downs, but I suppose it is fair for Thomas to draw conclusions based on the coaches decision not to use Ripkowski on pass plays.

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hobbes's picture

August 14, 2015 at 02:14 pm

I guess the question becomes, are the coaches holding him out of passing plays because he can't pass block, or can he never show that he can pass block because he's never in on passing plays. Considering how the Packers have used Kuhn in recent years, I would wager pass blocking is as important as run blocking for fullbacks.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

August 14, 2015 at 03:44 pm

I think we are in agreement, essentially. It also could be that the coaches really wanted to watch Tolzien, Hundley and Blanchard w/o any distractions from potentially poor pass pro.

While I am biased against keeping 2 FBs, I am not against keeping a standout ST performer who happens to be a FB. Since STs is often the ticket to a roster spot, I would give Ripkowski a plus grade for this game based solely on STs. He has plenty of time - 10 practices and 3 more games - to show what he can do in pass pro and receiving.

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hobbes's picture

August 15, 2015 at 11:36 am

I guess I would look at it from a more "meta" perspective. The Packers probably risk next to nothing by releasing Ripkowski and signing him to the practice squad; I can't imagine any team will sign a FB especially since lots of teams don't even keep a FB on the roster anyways. Then they can teach him pass protection and all that without having to use a roster spot on him,

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Oppy's picture

August 15, 2015 at 11:39 am

That sounds pretty fair.

That also means they probably shouldn't have spent a draft pick on him, though.

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