Extra Cheese: Is Mitch Trubisky better than Aaron Rodgers?
Has the whole world gone crazy?
By PackerAaron
Aaron ponders that question in the latest installment of Extra Cheese:
For anyone wondering what prompted this discussion:
If we're considering age and contract (which we always should when evaluating players), Mitch Trubisky is already the top QB in the NFC North and it's not even close. And I say that as someone who stands by my criticism of Ryan Pace for trading up for him. https://t.co/zFoYP92z0a
— Michael David Smith (@MichaelDavSmith) June 6, 2019
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Comments (48)
Coldworld
June 06, 2019 at 05:21 pm
Well I thought the really silly season started after minicamps. So Trubitsky is cheap and .... that’s it.
JonathanSpader
June 07, 2019 at 01:24 pm
The author is using a Cost Benefit Analysis. In 2018 Rodgers did not play up to his contract extension. Had he not been extended maybe he would have lived up to his contract even in a year that for Rodgers was subpar. Cousins was guaranteed 84 million and surprise was mediocre. Stafford had a rough year and also has a huge contract.
It's pretty easy to say that Turdbisket offered Chi the biggest bang for the buck. Because his contract isn't even close to the rest of the NFC North's QBs. In 2019 when Rodgers returns to form and justifies his contract it'll be a different story.
Samson
June 06, 2019 at 04:24 pm
Trubisky may be better someday long after AR retires..... Until then, Mitch should take notes at all Packer/Bear games starting 9/5/19. .. He may actually learn something.
jannesbjornson
June 06, 2019 at 08:37 pm
He has no long ball accuracy or arm. Shut down the Bears running game and see who wins the shootout. I'll put Vegas money on Rodgers.
Doug Niemczynski
June 07, 2019 at 10:36 am
just joking..lol
Doug Niemczynski
June 06, 2019 at 04:38 pm
Yes
IceBowl
June 06, 2019 at 07:44 pm
Doug,
WHY??
Leatherhead
June 06, 2019 at 04:41 pm
Michael David Smith knows his sheet and he's known it for kind of a long time already. He's astute.
Read the sentence carefully. In 2018, Mitch Trubisky was a better QB than Aaron Rodgers in more situations.
Cue the outrage: But, but but.....
Injuries are always a factor, both to the QB and his teammates. Coaching is a factor. The level of the players around you.
And that changes from year to year. And people get older, and new people come in the league. Maybe in 2019 we'll see Rodgers above the other QBs in the division.
But in 2018, I think Trubisky was the best in the division and he could get better this year. I think Cousins in Minnesota was slightly ahead of Rodgers, and Stafford was the worst QB in the division.
That's how they look in the clubhouse before the race starts this year. I'd agree with MDS here.
flackcatcher
June 06, 2019 at 05:04 pm
To be honest, I thought every QB in our division was pretty crappy per execution of their offense. Rodgers was the worst, but Stafford was right behind him and closing fast. The less said about Cousins, the better. By last years play Trubisky was above that group, but not by much. As you mentioned, all QB suffered, well from just being very bad on the field. Trubisky less by the Bears limiting his calls and leaving the playbook very basic. All suffered from thin O lines, but the non adjustments from the coaching staffs, and the egos of the veteran QB had a great deal to do with that. As you say, calling Trubisky the best is damning with faint praise.
Leatherhead
June 06, 2019 at 07:20 pm
Trubisky did more with what he had last year than any other QB in the division. Don't take my word for it, look it up.
CAG123
June 07, 2019 at 01:40 am
He didn’t have to do much he had a top ranked def he was pretty much 2015 Peyton Manning, 2017 Blake Bortles, 2017 Case Keenum, 2012 Russel Wilson, pick any year for Flacco when the Ravens we’re constantly in the playoffs or Alex Smith pretty much any QB that was told “We’re winning with def don’t screw this up kid”!
croatpackfan
June 08, 2019 at 05:15 am
Same situation with Aaron Rodgers and his ring. How bad was Packers D 2010?
Packers had supersonic attack 2011, but after Romeo Crennel dispose them Giants were not at problem to beat them at Lambeau... How good was Packers D 2011?
Doug Niemczynski
June 07, 2019 at 10:32 am
No. Trubisky is not better than Rodger's. I was just trying to see if I could break my all time thumbs down record.
IceBowl
June 07, 2019 at 07:46 pm
Doug Niemczynski,
You say .... "I was just trying to see if I could break my all time thumbs down record."
You won't have to try!!
Demon
June 07, 2019 at 02:44 pm
O.S. Do you even watch football? Anyone who makes that statement does not.
Next we are going to hear about the 8 straight trips to the playoffs and its best to trade down in the draft and that the Pack didnt need anymore pass rush blah blah blah.
By the amount of dislikes you get, youre the only one who believes your posts.
IceBowl
June 07, 2019 at 07:44 pm
Demon,
It seems you live here by counting "thumbs."You can do more.
Doug Niemczynski
June 08, 2019 at 10:31 am
Shot to the heart and your to blame, you give love a bad name.
flackcatcher
June 06, 2019 at 04:43 pm
(sigh)..........
Lare
June 06, 2019 at 04:58 pm
Clickbait
PackerAaron
June 06, 2019 at 08:21 pm
Thanks coach.
Lphill
June 06, 2019 at 06:28 pm
Rodgers had more yards and 25 TD and 2 int
Trubisky 24 TD 12 INT 20th in yards Rodgers 6 th in yards, so how was Trubisky better?
TheVOR
June 06, 2019 at 08:06 pm
This article is all about Fantasy. Maybe in some Unicorn Fantasy World this guy might hold Rodgers Jock Strap for him, but fo anyone who tries to make a case that Trubisky is somehow Rodgers, or in the same universe? Time to take off the virtual reality fantasy goggles and come back to the real world.
Since'61
June 06, 2019 at 09:11 pm
This is truly Fantasy Football. Thanks, Since ‘61
Adorabelle
June 06, 2019 at 06:49 pm
Aaron Jones career 5.5 yard per attempt is way higher than Walter Payton. is Aaron Jones better than Walter Payton? Chuckle.
Leatherhead
June 06, 2019 at 07:13 pm
He was in 2018 , and will be in 2019, as well. Of course Rodgers has had a better career than Trubisky…..that's not the point. What did they do last year?
PackerAaron
June 06, 2019 at 08:23 pm
What they "did last year" means nothing in the context of which one is a better player and quarterback. Rodgers is. By far.
Bure9620
June 06, 2019 at 09:22 pm
Agreed. Trubisky is also checking it down more with safe throws. There are a lot of YAC yards. This helped his "QBR" and some other metrics, but that's a pretty big jump to now immediately say he's jumped Rodgers. I actually think Trubisky will be good, but let's pump em. Rodgers, even in an off year and Injured had over 1000 more passing yards than Trubisky and 1 pick. Its bit early for changing of the guard talk. So the "What did they do last year" argument, Rodgers had a slightly higher YPC, 1000 more yards and 11 less picks.
Coldworld
June 06, 2019 at 10:10 pm
Well summed up. The Bears functioned well offensively but Trubisky was asked to do very little and often struggled with that. He is young and may progress, but the idea that he is currently a top flight QB is meritless.
Since'61
June 06, 2019 at 10:22 pm
The day may come when Trubisky is better than Rodgers, but today is not that day. Not even close.
Thanks, Since ‘61
NickPerry
June 07, 2019 at 06:12 am
Hmmm... Trubisky hasn't won a thing and lets face, his DEFENSE won the NFC North last year.
Clearly you didn't pay attention to the mess Ted Thompson left behind for Gutekunst. I mean the Safety position was a mess by week 2 of the 2011 season, a position Thompson STILL hadn't fixed when he was removed from the GM position in 2017 and this is just one example. Hell before the start of year 2 Gute has fixed that, or so it would seem. BTW... LOOK at the OLB position in year 2 under Gute compared to any time under TT.
Lets see what happens in 2019. Lets see if the Bears defense keeps it's starters healthy for the entire season (more less) and score all those points for Trubisky again. Hell look what happened to them the moment they lost their starting nickel CB.. They LOST.
Doug Niemczynski
June 07, 2019 at 10:35 am
Walter Peyton was the greatest running back on grass and Barry Sanders the greatest on astroturf.
IceBowl
June 06, 2019 at 07:04 pm
This one is dumb, off season madness.
Who cares which QB rushes more??? I do not.
I want my QB to be the (1st) best game manager, (2nd) best passer, and (3rd) best improviser.
If I am talking about my QB running efficiency, I am not talking about a winner.
Since'61
June 06, 2019 at 08:08 pm
What’s a Trubisky? Who cares. Thanks, Since ‘61
Since'61
June 06, 2019 at 08:10 pm
If and when Trubisky wins 2 MVP awards and a Super Bowl and reaches the HOF we can talk. And who knows Rodgers may have another MVP and an SB or 2 still in him.
If Trubisky gets to the HOF it will be as a tourist if he can find it.
As of now it’s Trubisky who? Thanks, Since ‘61
Leatherhead
June 10, 2019 at 05:25 pm
I don't think the question was "who has accomplished more, or had a better career".
Lare
June 10, 2019 at 06:13 pm
It doesn't matter. Rodgers is still a better QB than Trubisky will ever be.
TarynsEyes
June 06, 2019 at 08:54 pm
To even entertain this question is disturbing.
IceBowl
June 06, 2019 at 08:58 pm
Tarynfor12,
We do agree on some things. As I said above.
IceBowl
June 06, 2019 at 08:58 pm
Tarynfor12,
We do agree on some things. As I said above.
Ryan3468
June 07, 2019 at 12:15 am
Wait till the Patriots play the Bears and Mitch’s headset malfunctions. Mitch has a box of rocks upstairs. Athletic as he is. He is a meat head. The Bears love him and will play for him. I’m happy Mitch isn’t wearing the green and gold. He isn’t worth it. Even dumb guys win once in a while.
Lphill
June 07, 2019 at 05:32 am
Also Trubisky started one year in college and did not have such an exciting college career now that I look at his stats I wonder why he was even a first round pick based on being a one year starter for north Carolina and playing some average teams .
Archie
June 07, 2019 at 08:27 am
Nobody is better than Aaron Rodgers. Take it to the bank. Bookit Dano. Can't wait to see him in new offense and with a real defense. Heck, I'm hopeful our ST will be tons better too.
PackfanNY
June 07, 2019 at 01:02 pm
Let’s be honest this is just click bait. Trubisky is a good fit for the Bears and what Nagy is trying to do with his offense. They are built to play good defense and not turn the ball over. Gadget plays and some safe passes as needed.
Now can I even take someone seriously who wants to say he is the “top” QB in the division.
Doug Niemczynski
June 08, 2019 at 10:33 am
Patrick Mahomes for starters and Terrific Tom Brady for #2
PackfanNY
June 08, 2019 at 05:44 pm
I believe this was about the NFC North. Neither Brady or Mahomes play in the NFC North.
IceBowl
June 07, 2019 at 08:30 pm
Why are we not talking about pass accuracy on the run?
Pierre
June 07, 2019 at 08:33 pm
Rodgers needs to bounce back this year in a big way by leading this team to the playoffs. If he continues to decline in pass completion percentage, converting third downs, and getting his passes off timely, then its going to be difficult for this team to win in 2019 and a lot closer to the time for Green Bay to move on to a new QB to take over.
One cannot keep making excuses for inconsistent play by Rodgers at the QB position...from injuries, to receivers, to OL, to play calling, to MM. The fact is he throws the ball away out of bounds at a league leading number, had a 6-9-1 record last year, barely a 60% completion rate...and has a career losing record of 39-44 in road games. Compare that to Tom Brady, who has played 51 more road games than AR has played, Yet Brady still has less road losses with a 92-42 road record.
That’s an incredible difference in winning road games. How many here even realize that Aaron Rodgers has a losing record on the road yet think think he’s still playing the QB position at an elite level...or that he’s the best QB in the NFL??? It’s not reality at all by the results he has achieved in winning games as the years go by. Maybe this year can be better for him...we shall see.
IceBowl
June 07, 2019 at 09:58 pm
Pierre,
I agree ARod had an "off" season and not many want to talk about it. Statistically he was fine, but his play was sub-ARod.
I watched many times he would not throw to an open receiver. That is ridiculous. That led to many throw aways/delays/sacks that did not have to happen. He has to throw to open receivers. Has to.
He simply has to change that.