2023 CHTV Watch Party: Buccaneers vs Packers
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The_Justicar
December 17, 2023 at 12:10 pm
First 3rd down- and 5 - all corners bail on the snap and back up several yards behind first down markers. Unreal. Except it is every game
Lphill
December 17, 2023 at 12:13 pm
Joe Barry .
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 12:14 pm
First play- corners are 12 yards back easy first down. Then they march down field for an opening FG. God how I hate the Barry defense!
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:20 pm
Nixon and Ford meet for the stop. When was this election?
Lphill
December 17, 2023 at 12:21 pm
Early in the game take the 3 , not MLF
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Same weekly stupidity, take the points and tie the game.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:24 pm
No problem with the call.
Just a bad throw.
White92
December 17, 2023 at 01:09 pm
You've lost 5 games by 13 points total. Why pass up points?
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:22 pm
If he runs to the pylon he scores. Nobody on the left side of the field except the DB chasing Reed.
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm
were in the hell was Love throwing that pass.....
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Again, Jordan threw off his back foot.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:29 pm
I would say neither foot was planted. At least JL did say he knows his footwork was bad last game, so at least he's aware there's a problem.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm
I wish I could make an excuse for the bad third down call at the goal line, and the horrible 4th down pass.. but I can’t.
They should have just kicked the gimme.. Carlson needs the reps anyway.
I just better not hear MLF say they were outcoached today.
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm
A failed conversion on 4th down is the same as a turnover, and in this case, it's at the goal line. The hardest points to get on the board are the first ones, and we should be 3-3 right now.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:30 pm
In hindsight, it's alright 😎
Firethemall
December 17, 2023 at 12:25 pm
I want to go on record and say...what I've been saying: Love will be a good backup. He is too inconsistent in accuracy and simple game feel.
Hope they don't waste too much time on him.
GO PACK!
NFLfan
December 17, 2023 at 12:25 pm
Is Love going to be inaccurate again?
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 12:26 pm
Throw the damn ball!
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 12:26 pm
Look like the Packer defense just got a takeaway near the goal line. We'll see if the offense can make 5 yards in four plays
And Mr. Kraft gets it done. Go Pack Go.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 12:27 pm
OK, let's see if we can fuck this up!
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:27 pm
First GB TE to get 2 TDs is ...
#85. Great play :)
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:27 pm
Kraft showing he's a superior player to Musgrave at this point with the ball in his hands.
Thank you LaF for not just running the inside gap play into Vita Vea's lap again.
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 12:29 pm
Exactly!
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:33 pm
Too small a sample size to say which of our rookie TEs is "the better player." They are very different players, and could make a very effective complementary duo. Tucker can easily be expected to be better at both YAC and blocking, if that's what you mean. If 88 ever becomes as good a blocker as Lazard?
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 12:28 pm
I'll be damned, touchdown!
NFLfan
December 17, 2023 at 12:30 pm
Tucker Kraft is blooming
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 12:30 pm
As much heat as the Packer defense had last week.
Jordan Love should go kiss their asses after Enagbare creates a fumble at the Packers 4 yard line, enabling Love to get a gimmee TD to make up for that sad pass attempt to Reed.
So far, the defense is doing enough to win this game.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:33 pm
Turns out it never hit the ground, so if the refs decided Mayfield's arm was moving forward (and it wasn't) it would've been an INT.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 12:34 pm
Let's hope that lasts. At any given time they can give up an easy score, it's Barry Ball!
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:35 pm
Team mates and brown nosers are not synonyms, or even compatible.
The term you're looking for is "complementary football."
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 12:53 pm
The term i was looking for is the defense giving Love great field position and a 2nd chance after his failed throw to a wide open Reed ... or whatever you wanna call that..
I mean...can't we be honest?
My Grandma could have made that throw.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:56 pm
"My Grandma could have made that throw."
I hope she has a good agent! ;)
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 12:34 pm
End of the first quarter. 7-3. Multiply that out and it'd be 28-12, and I'd take that.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:35 pm
Yuck...this is starting to shape up as a "whomever has the ball last, wins" game.
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 12:35 pm
IMO, MLF has to demonstrate confidence in Love early, by passing a little more. Jordan needs to iron out the kinks. However, I love seeomg Aaron Jones running those off tackle plays.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Yes, but I don't like seeing him run 3x in a row, with diminishing returns each time. Establish the run so they have to respect it, sure; but mix it up!
There's also the durability factor. His first game back from injury and you beat him like a borrowed mule?
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:37 pm
Ugh...that way way too easy.
Suspect that Evans is going to eat against a rusty Stokes today.
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 12:39 pm
3 guys were open for Tampa. We need to drop the zone coverage in the red zone.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Our defense just doesn’t cover. Frustrating.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 12:39 pm
Mayfield 7 of 7.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 12:40 pm
Barry Ball!
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:35 pm
This could largely be due to a secondary that was suspect to weak to begin with, and then injuries and giving Rasul Douglas away for nothing, then Gutey telling everyone it was a deal to good to pass up.
If you can pinpoint scheme at fault I'd appreciate it, I don't see it in this game.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Welcome back Eric stokes.. touchdown Tampa bay
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 12:40 pm
This defense cannot get a stop on downs! Yes, it's nice to get a turnover but 2 long drives for points? Mayfield is 7 for 7! Barry making another HOF QB!
Booner
December 17, 2023 at 01:19 pm
Dingle Joe has them laughing all the way🎅🏻
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:44 pm
Has there been a rule change that you cannot take that free play when the defense is offsides? Could JL have run that play?
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:47 pm
The OL jumped in response before the snap...so it's a dead ball.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 12:59 pm
Thanks! So this is a reason not to rotate O linemen.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 12:48 pm
I think because after the Buc crossed on to the line of scrimmage the Packer O line moved as well so they blew the play dead.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 01:00 pm
Thank you :) Our O line can improve.
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 12:50 pm
A big play is awaiting up the middle, if Tampa keeps blitzing and Love can recognize it quickly. Same for up the side lines deep. They are occasionally dropping a safety low.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 12:56 pm
That TB punt had some backspin like a golf shot. Quite a punt. Thought Reed did the right thing letting it go.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 01:06 pm
He shouldn't have caught it? Since he was out of position, I agree that trying to field it would've been bad judgment.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:09 pm
Well it was a 66 yard punt, and all of that 66 yards was in the air because it went backwards when landing.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 12:58 pm
Defender never looked for the ball on the DPI...played through the WR.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 12:58 pm
Not to relive the Giants game…but…during the break I flipped to the Giants/ Saints I watched Devito get sacked for the 4TH time…in the FIRST half. One might ask why we got so little pressure. Oh well back to here and now.
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 01:04 pm
Ok. I'll bite. Because Joe Barry is the worst DC in the history of the NFL?
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 01:05 pm
🤯😂🤣😂
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 01:00 pm
I'm a Packer fan, but that P I was petty.
This is why i never bitch about the refs, these calls go both ways and even itself out in the end.
That's how i look at it anyway.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:01 pm
Live I thought the defender clearly hit him early. On replay, it looked petty as you mentioned.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 01:08 pm
Minimal contact, but the defender didn't play the ball. At all. I think that's what made the difference in the call.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 01:03 pm
The crappy refereeing cuts both ways 😖
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:04 pm
Reed looked like he was holding his ribs on the sideline after the hard hit.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 01:09 pm
I'm thinking he was substantially less than 100% at the opening kickoff. Doubs and Kraft are our hot hands today.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 01:10 pm
Guys wide open again.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:11 pm
30 minutes of football and not one pass defended by our secondary. Typical
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:19 pm
Our secondary is just not very aggressive. Jordan Love could complete 75% against these guys. I know Evan and Godwin are great but at least get close enough to get a hand in there once or twice a game.
Tampa has outplayed GB in the first half. Only Mayfield holding the ball too long on the fumble is keeping it close.
Mayfield 12 of 14 for the half. I don’t blame him for holding the ball.
They are certainly not playing like the season is on the line.
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:09 pm
The Bucs secondary isn't anything to brag about either, seeing as they rank 27th against the pass.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:11 pm
ok, that sign from Mayfield to his WRs was pretty funny. Looked like he was signing pair of boobs.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 01:12 pm
Van Ness showing up more and more.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 01:14 pm
Godwin wide open….again.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:03 pm
Who wouldn’t be with Campbell in coverage?
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 01:14 pm
Is this the Barry prevent-a-win defense at the end of the first half?
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 01:14 pm
I'm still rooting for LUKE NESS MONSTER!
Ok, that's his third sack on the season. He hasn't added any technique since College. He can still develop into a disruptive player.
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 01:15 pm
Mayfield has a 140 passer rating this game, currently.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 01:17 pm
Do you think it's due to soft coverage by the Packers?
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 01:19 pm
Definitely. We have to change that if we cannot get on top offensively, and stay on top. Tongue in cheek, it's another way to wear down THEIR defense.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 01:16 pm
How many chunk plays can we give up? This is absolutely ridiculous! Stokes needs to come out.
jannesbjornson
December 17, 2023 at 01:58 pm
Ballantine is clearly playing better ball. Stokes should have been moved last spring.
Lphill
December 17, 2023 at 01:17 pm
Baker may finish with 400 yards passing as almost 200 I first half .
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 01:18 pm
They should send Barry home at halftime , tell him he's no longer needed.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:39 pm
I don't think GB can lose as efficiently without JB in the game.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 03:00 pm
With a good hard kick in the a** with a steel toed boot!
jhtobias
December 17, 2023 at 01:25 pm
I love hearing people complaining about Joe berry .. Once and for All yes he is by far the worst Defensive Coordinator in the NFL , but he is not going anywhere and most likely will get an extension so Packer Fans Live with it and talk about something else !!!!
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:30 pm
Ok, I don’t think they like like an angry aggressive team that was embarrassed on national tv Monday by an inferior opponent. In fact the first half looks exactly like the prior game.
I think the thing we all may be delusional about is this is a playoff caliber team and staff.
They are not capable of winning four straight. Not with money on the table.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:40 pm
Not playing like this they can't.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 01:56 pm
Okay Tobias,
maybe we're wrong as you suggest, and we'll see when the season ends, but until then, most of us do know how to spell "Barry".
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 01:29 pm
Guys, I caught up with Matt LaFleur on his way out of the tunnel and he said he's happy with his team's first half effort, but they need to tighten some things up, get some things corrected, and make some plays in the second half if they want to secure the victory. He said he's unhappy with Jaire Alexander, a bit miffed at Adam Stenavich, and disgruntled with Joe Barry, but realizes he's a grown man in charge of his emotions and will work through those feelings privately.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:31 pm
I think you are lying. There is no way he would say he is is disgruntled with JB.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:38 pm
Privately I think he was happy with Monday night’s performance too.
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:00 pm
::busted::
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:15 pm
Nice Leotis!!! 😛😲😜🤪
Nice to see a sense of humor in here occasionally.
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Looks like Reed is hurt.
ddepula418
December 17, 2023 at 01:36 pm
Fire Barry or they will never win
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:46 pm
They've won 6 games with JB. A little more effort to be truthful?
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:37 pm
Bad route by one of the WRs but it wouldn't have mattered because Love was off on throw. It also looked like a short easy pass would have gained the 1st down.
This is looking like one of Love's inconsistent early season games.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:47 pm
JL is much better now, that play was off, and he's not having a good game even though his stat line isn't bad.
Packerpasty
December 17, 2023 at 01:38 pm
Jordon Love be lucky to have the career Baker Mayfield is having...and that aint saying much...team to team and half ass good play once in awhile...
Dragon5
December 17, 2023 at 01:39 pm
1st half observations
Kraft looking like TE1 I thought he would be (i.e. > Musgrave). Felt Musgrave was a reach in rd 2, especially with Rashee Rice available.
Year 1 theme for Love: his inaccuracy is putting his targets in (injury) jeopardy too often.
We've seen several coordinator changes lately, however, this team is so young lacking field leadership and little clout--reducing the chance of internal mutiny. MLF doesn't have the balls to fire Barry unless he feels his job is in jeopardy; this coming offseason will be the true test of just how soft of a coach / man he is--as his sh*tty, if not inexcusable executive decisions come full circle post 2024.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:50 pm
MLF cannot fire JB. How many times must you repeat your B's, be corrected as to this dysfunctional organization, yet persist in your absolute bs?
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 01:39 pm
Incomplete pass for Mayfield. Grab a beer. My six pack should be enough for the game.
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 01:41 pm
third and 12 .... TB picks up 15 .....
Tex49
December 17, 2023 at 02:59 pm
3rd and anything the Bucs picked up anything + 1
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:42 pm
This secondary is horrible. They haven’t even been close on their coverage. Ford, Stokes, Owens, Valentine.. not one of them had made a play yet.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:43 pm
In fact with 11 minutes left in the 3rd I would be shocked if Tampa didn’t win by 10 or more.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm
And of course Tampa is winning by 14 with 4 minutes left. Guaranteed Tampa will get smoked next week. Just like the NYGare getting whipped today with Tommy DeVito putting up a big 6 points.
Fire LaFleur or go 8-9 in 2024.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 01:42 pm
...and here everyone was afraid the Bucs would run all over the Packers today...
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 01:45 pm
That's the great thing about the Barry defense (for opponents) you can gameplan anything to beat it.
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm
Bucs fear our stout run D.
Baxter Merryfield heading for NFC Offensive Player of the Week
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:26 pm
They would have if they had to.. but our linebackers and secondary decided to roll over in the passing game.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 03:08 pm
Specifically, it's the safeties playing too deep that have made the LBs look bad. And how many fly patterns did u see Mayfield throw today? Not one! So why did Barry play them so deep? Just his stupid, soft non-aggressive comfort zone!
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:39 pm
Actually they did run all over the Packers, they just didn’t use their halfbacks.
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 01:43 pm
Wide open up the middle AGAIN .....
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:45 pm
This game is over , the season is over.. and to be truthful, next season is over before it starts. MLF is coming back and so is an 8-9 record.
NickPerry
December 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm
Exactly what I've been talking about this season Since...
We are STUCK with MLF and probably Barry next year as well.
NickPerry
December 17, 2023 at 01:43 pm
Well this is embarrassing...
ddepula418
December 17, 2023 at 01:44 pm
Fire Barry
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm
Barry? Pettine? Drayton? As bad as they are I think MLF is at the core of the problem.
We had a five yard drive.. NOTHING else.. off an embarrassing performance last week. It’s MLF.. period!
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 01:44 pm
Will the offense please show up and make this a game again?
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:54 pm
Nope, can't do that. Next question?
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:44 pm
Nixon burned again?
NJ-RICK
December 17, 2023 at 01:45 pm
How much more do you need to see... The Packers are horrible. Time to bring in new MGT...!
NickPerry
December 17, 2023 at 01:45 pm
Hmmm.. I wonder if LaFleur will still be loving Joe Barry after this game...
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm
Now that Brandon Staley is unemployed, MLF is trying to cement his worst HC in NFL standing...
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 01:51 pm
Of course he will! He can continually play the blame game with himself and the players. God forbid he should blame his good buddy Barry!
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:46 pm
Please fire Joe. Fired McCarthy Fire joe
White92
December 17, 2023 at 01:46 pm
Keep playing zone Joe. Mayfield might run 🤔
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 01:46 pm
This is when those irrelevant wins against the Lions and Chiefs could have contributed to our draft position.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm
Wow! Ford is still looking for his jock strap! Brutal, brutal defense against this QB is disgraceful! Why won't Barry do the right thing and just resign? He obviously got his monies worth on that frontal lobotomy!
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:47 pm
Fire Joe
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 01:48 pm
Glad to see Runyan on the bench, I do not like rotating Left tackles WHO DOES THAT
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:56 pm
Runyan doesn't play LT
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:50 pm
Bring back lindfante
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:51 pm
Jesus love throw it to an open receiver
MooPack
December 17, 2023 at 01:51 pm
Man I like Wicks.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:57 pm
Several plays where he did things I never saw Davante Adams do.
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:51 pm
Holding
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:51 pm
Damn don’t hold
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 01:52 pm
Wicks playing well ( with a bad Hamstring ) what about all the other chronic hamstring Babys
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:58 pm
Wicks is concussion and ankle.
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 01:52 pm
Larivee is feigning excitement when Love barely overthrows receivers, his voice is much different when throws are "in the general vicinity" of the intended receiver(s). This is our reality.
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 01:54 pm
When you see Love, with protection, throwing strikes to open receivers, it makes you wonder why we always seem to have 10 points on the board in the second half.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:59 pm
O line?
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 01:55 pm
I didn't think Reed got his feet in...see it again?
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:58 pm
I thought the one replay showed him clutching the ball and two feet down. It was very close.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:03 pm
Bucs with 12 men on offense, 11 on the field, and Joe Barry on the sideline!
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:01 pm
It was a GREAT throw, and arguably an even better catch. Which raises the question of if the playcall wasn't as good as the execution.
Either way, GREAT TD :)
Schradsbackn
December 17, 2023 at 01:56 pm
Okay joe
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 01:58 pm
Did they have any running plays on that scoring drive?
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 01:58 pm
OK Defense. Let's do something different! Go Pack!
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 02:09 pm
Barry do something different? He's too obtuse to know that he needs to make changes!
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 01:58 pm
Can you believe it? A freakin major TD to Reed. That's 25 on the season for Love, which is one of the highest totals in the league. It's the ONE THING that we do a better than average job of on offense.....we throw TD passes. And generally, we protect him pretty well, which is closely connected.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 01:58 pm
Let's see how aggressive Barry has the defense playing after we score the touchdown and get momentum.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:03 pm
His aggression is negative at least 2
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 02:01 pm
First down up the middle again....
jannesbjornson
December 17, 2023 at 02:01 pm
Campbell and Walker are worthless in coverage in the hook zones--pathetic.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm
.
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 02:02 pm
Hey, at least we're stuffing the run.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:04 pm
Valentine plays tight and deflects the pass away..
Then, bad penalty by Ballentine.
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 02:05 pm
Bucs average 20.2 pts per game. That translates to 36 in Barryworld.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:05 pm
Valentine celebration after the first defended pass of the day.. 45 minutes into the game.. and the very next play Ballentine earns a PI penalty.
This is the Green Bay Packers
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 02:05 pm
We are SO flat footed in coverage.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 02:05 pm
Guys wide open. Another soul crushing drive.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 02:06 pm
Safeties are playing too deep! LBs are getting burned on these short seam patterns. Put them up in the box and make those TB receivers bleed. Another TE completion over the middle. Where are the safeties?
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:06 pm
The defense loses the momentum :-(.
ddepula418
December 17, 2023 at 02:07 pm
Fire Joe Barry
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:07 pm
Packers haven't been able to cover the middle all day
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 02:07 pm
Wow that didnt take long..... Ok Love will have to bring the pack back through the air .... Lets see how they protect him....
kebab24
December 17, 2023 at 02:07 pm
This defense is painful to watch.
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 02:19 pm
Then stop watching it, and watch the 20 defenses that are worse. When we hold down points, you complain around the rush yards. When we hold down the rush yards (like today) you complain about the points. When we give up a bunch of passing yards because we're playing with Day 3 and UDFA backups, you complain about Barry.
Pick a lane. With me, it's points. We've given up 28, one of our worst showings of the season and last. But if we don't give up anymore, we still have a chance to win this game.
Leatherhead
December 17, 2023 at 02:07 pm
That's probabliy the game. We don't win if we don't hold people to 20 or less. Right now, we'd need 28 points, 11 more than we have. There's plenty of time but 28 would be a season's best for us.
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:13 pm
Stop it with all these maths. You're making my head spin.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 02:08 pm
All day tomorrow we’ll read and hear about Jordan Love. Yet, this is ALL about Joe Barry and absolutely terrible defenseless football.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:08 pm
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: offensive juggernaut?
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:12 pm
I was going to say the same thing
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:07 pm
Just imagine what they could do with all-time great Tommy DeVito!
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 03:16 pm
Any team becomes an offensive juggernaut if they play a Joe Barry defense! Queue DeVito and Zappe.
SwedeBayPacker
December 17, 2023 at 02:09 pm
Damn, Joe Barry really is hellbent on losing this game
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:08 pm
He's quite efficient at it. That is what he was hired for, right?
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:10 pm
This is totally embarrassing. It’s very very hard to watch. Joe Barry’s defense getting lit up by DeVito and Mayfield back to back weeks.
But you should know that even if they fire Barry, the next coordinator will be even worse. Because it will be LaFleur picking him. Mennenga, Drayton, Pettine, Barry… common denominator, Matt LaFleur.
The_Justicar
December 17, 2023 at 02:13 pm
Yeah - bums and has beens or just dudes having a rough season - all break out vs Joe Barry. If I’m an agent, I’d plan to have contract negotiations start after my player plays the packers. If I’m a GM, I discount any performance a player has vs a Joe Barry defense.
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 02:10 pm
I think Patches O'Houlihan said it best:
" It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob out there!"
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 02:10 pm
Bears up 17 to 7 vs Cleveland'.... Here comes the Bears folks
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:10 pm
Maybe if the Bucs score 50, we'll finally fire Barry -- but not likely.
Still pulling for the Packers to pull out this game for a stirring come-from-behind victory, though.
Maybe it would be good if one or the other happened.
NFLfan
December 17, 2023 at 02:12 pm
Management 101-You (LaFleur) are not friends with your subordinates (Barry). (clouds judgment).
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:26 pm
It is. You have to consider what is good for company/team. I went back to being a grunt because I didn't like providing "you're too incompetent" feedback to nice people.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:12 pm
That would be too much like solid fundamentals. Anything like fundamentals, GB is bad at. Good fundamentals seem to be against the religion of the FO.
jhtobias
December 17, 2023 at 02:13 pm
lafluer should be fired for retaining joe berry for three years
NFLfan
December 17, 2023 at 02:13 pm
Fans have power to get rid of Barry-10th time I've said this-sheesh
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:16 pm
When you posted similar sentiments as "fangirl", they weren't true. That's still the case.
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:20 pm
MLF has the power to get rid of Barry....as long as it's ok with Murph!! 😜 😲😉
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:16 pm
How much influence MLF has over MM on this type of decision would be interesting to know. If MLF were to consistently plead for a replacement, would MM allow it? Would we be informed of any of these details?
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:14 pm
Fans absolutely do not have any control over this.
Increasingly, the league doesn't care about fans at all.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:13 pm
Maybe Barry's got pictures of him with a sheep, there's got to be some reason MLF keeps him around.
dobber
December 17, 2023 at 02:13 pm
THAT'S what a defense that can tackle looks like....
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:18 pm
When most here were saying Owens can't play, I was saying he's a tough tackler. He's been tackling well, but is not assignment sure.
Malland56
December 17, 2023 at 02:14 pm
I have counted 7 defensive backfield breakdowns in this game right now. Nixon sucks back there. He has the last 3 weeks.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:15 pm
I guess MLF has forgot about Jones because a couple of runs went nowhere early in the half.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:17 pm
Nice to see someone on packers monitors this chat because the next play after I posted this comment was pass to Jones. Then went to him a couple more times even.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:21 pm
I think returning from injury has him on a limited snap count. I question the wisdom of using him like a bell cow, letting him sit for so long then using him hard again. I wonder what 33's thoughts are on this point ...
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:18 pm
Matt gets bad headaches trying to figure out a ways to get Jones more touches.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:22 pm
That would imply MLF tries to do so. I think he saves that for press meetings.
Dragon5
December 17, 2023 at 02:19 pm
Nothing new...old habits die hard. (Sad) Truth?...we expect it.
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 02:17 pm
We suck at challenges ... lets see how this one goes....
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:23 pm
We?
I had nothing to do with that, TYVM.
That's the sort of decision for a HC, which MLF is NOT.
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:17 pm
I read some of these post and you'd think the game was over and the Bucs won by 14 points.
Smile people, it ain't over!!
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:19 pm
Don't be lazy. Read all the posts. Lombardi would want it that way
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:25 pm
It's over and they won by 14 points. Surprisingly, the whole team didn't play poorly for 60 minutes. I'm not sure our DBs had one good play?
Lphill
December 17, 2023 at 02:18 pm
and after loss the GB press will ask MLF softball questions as usual , Barry will be smiling on the podium not a care in the world .
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 02:19 pm
we loose another time-out ... when we only needed 1/2 yard
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:22 pm
I hate loosing
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:22 pm
Got 'em right where we want 'em.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:22 pm
Kick the field goal.
ddepula418
December 17, 2023 at 02:23 pm
Fire Joe Barry
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:26 pm
If the defense doesn't stop the Bucs on this series, then I'd fire Barry before the 2-minute warning.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:23 pm
Another test for the defense.
Will Barry make any adjustments?
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:24 pm
Anders kicks the field goal, then pats some Packer players on the helmet in congratulations....then pats the Bucs K.J. Britt on the helmet...lol.
Freaking rookies do the damndest things...lol
BAMABADGER
December 17, 2023 at 04:12 pm
Played at Auburn together. War Eagle!
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:25 pm
Notice how close THEIR linebackers cover OUR tight ends. Imagine if we could do that? I think it’s a combination of talent and scheme.. it’s hard to respect any opposing coach that doesn’t exploit this defense.
Todd. Isles is coaching for his job and comes here and totally out coached LaFleur. Todd fucking Bowles.
Malland56
December 17, 2023 at 02:26 pm
How many times has Barry blitzed this year? I didn't see one last week or one so far this game. This Bozo has to go. They were saying that our D was so good for not giving up many points. Well look at the rest of it. They stink. And the last 2 games (yesterday & today) Points!
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:27 pm
That hurts. Giants have scored 6 points. But not unfamiliar sight seeing packers D making pedestrian opponents look like HOF material.
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:28 pm
By the way.. after 3 quarters the NY Giants have 6 points against New Orleans.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 02:28 pm
The middle of the field is a sieve.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:28 pm
"Mayfield over the middle..."
EricTorkelson
December 17, 2023 at 02:29 pm
AND THERE IS YOUR DAGGER ...........
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:31 pm
Wow....i didn't see your post!!
😏💯🍻
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:29 pm
And there is your Dagger!!
Sorry 🤷♂️
ddepula418
December 17, 2023 at 02:30 pm
Fire Joe Barry
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 02:31 pm
Right out of send in the clowns. Barry must be gone t-o-n-I-g-h-t. No more excuses.
jannesbjornson
December 17, 2023 at 02:35 pm
He probably gets a raise
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:28 pm
🎶 Don't worry they're here 🎶
egbertsouse
December 17, 2023 at 02:31 pm
Nice tackling on that TD.
jannesbjornson
December 17, 2023 at 02:31 pm
Another low effort by Campbell and three more missed tackles...TD to Brown. Soft Zone target practice for Mayfield. No pass rush, too easy.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:33 pm
Douglas plays for the Bills now.
jannesbjornson
December 17, 2023 at 02:37 pm
More coffee, thanks....
egbertsouse
December 17, 2023 at 02:31 pm
The refs might be bailing them out.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:33 pm
well, if he fumbled into the endzone, then it's packers ball. Good effort by Ford.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:32 pm
Was that Nixon burned yet again with miss tackle? I only caught the first 2 on number, and it wasn't ford.
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 02:36 pm
Yes, Nixon & Campbell. Valentine's jock in Michigan, and Ford originally fell down.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:32 pm
Benny Hill theme yet?
After the draft we expected a weak secondary ...
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:33 pm
I can't figure out where these headaches come from, MLF's play calling, holding my breath every time Carlson tries a field goal, or watching Barry's defense? Ain't no way it's the Jack Daniels they drive me to.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:33 pm
Blame it on the refs.
JD gives me a headache, too.
Dragon5
December 17, 2023 at 02:33 pm
PSA: If you want to put pressure on mgmt to dispose of Barry, start chanting "FIRE BARRY" in the stands.
Relentless "Fire Barry" in CheeseheadTV territory is approaching insanity.
kebab24
December 17, 2023 at 02:34 pm
Joe Barry needs to go NOW. They are not going to make the playoffs given horrible defensive performances versus weak offensive opponents over the past two weeks. What do they have to lose by getting rid of him tomorrow.
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 02:34 pm
Tomorrow, Love this, Love that, Love shoulda ….and the REAL problem is our joke of a defense. Love is developing nicely. Not perfect but he’s been pretty good.
Malland56
December 17, 2023 at 02:47 pm
Except for his accuracy on long passes. He keeps over throwing them
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:38 pm
Other people say he always underthrows them.
His footwork is off, and that's a habit he picked up behind a leaky O line. When his footwork is solid his accuracy is (sometimes) great. In the off season he can recover his footwork and improve all his mechanics.
I have 0 confidence that anyone on this coaching staff will utilize O linemen intelligently, or teach them well. Unless (maybe) Stenavitch gets demoted back to O line coach, and MLF gets demoted to OC. I don't expect those changes to be made.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:34 pm
Do they have a camera looking down the goal line?
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:41 pm
I thought pylon cameras were standard
Packers0808
December 17, 2023 at 02:34 pm
Packer D under Barry couldn't stop a bag of shit thrown at them!
CheesedDeadHead
December 17, 2023 at 02:37 pm
You pose a theoretical conundrum. The defense would be in the bag, who would they be thrown at?
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:41 pm
Are you suggesting our D is throwing it?
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:38 pm
I think the smart thing to do when a bag of shit is thrown is to dodge, not stop it.
Packers0808
December 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm
Remember this is a Barry Patch D! It is full of shit!
LeotisHarris
December 17, 2023 at 02:48 pm
Fact.
Never, never, never stop a bag of shit.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:42 pm
My preferred technique is to break the jaw of the thrower.
ddepula418
December 17, 2023 at 02:35 pm
3 Tampa Possessions, 3 TD's. FIRE JOE BARRY
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:35 pm
Do not give up!
This is an opportunity for Jordan Love and the Packers to do something special as a great comeback.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:40 pm
LOL, Good one Swisch,
That's the best call of this game so far!
SinceLombardi
December 17, 2023 at 02:36 pm
Mayfield 22/28 380 4 TDS. LMFAO
Dragon5
December 17, 2023 at 02:39 pm
Bryce Young can't wait.
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:41 pm
Baker Mayfield for MVP, he sure looks like one today!
Malland56
December 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm
Oh ya! DB's suck big time today. Broken coverage way too many times today. Thats your DC for you and discipline
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:36 pm
Looks like Love is going to get some garbage time stats.
******************
And right after i type that......OOPS!!
Malland56
December 17, 2023 at 02:40 pm
You don't hold the ball out like that when your being pressured
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:41 pm
The pain of this game will only be worth it if Barry is fired.
jhtobias
December 17, 2023 at 02:41 pm
I actually like Lafluer but i hope he is experiencing some terrible emotional pain today for sticking with Joe berry for three years the defensive players have quit on them
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:46 pm
I'm surprised the players haven't quit on him long ago, and am not sure they have now.
I'd be interested in seeing (or even hearing) evidence to support your conclusion. Certainly JB is making it harder for them to do their best.
jannesbjornson
December 17, 2023 at 02:42 pm
Terrible play calls by La Fleur, down two scores and Love starts to force it. No Blocking. Game, Set, Match...
Bitternotsour
December 17, 2023 at 02:43 pm
Jeez, who hired this guy Joe Barry that everyone wants fired.
Bitternotsour
December 17, 2023 at 02:45 pm
eyes on the prize people.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 02:49 pm
Please explain what the prize is? Hopefully, it's winning versus any other useless reason like keeping an incompetent coach employed and giving him excuses!
Lphill
December 17, 2023 at 02:43 pm
fucking fire Barry today I’m tired of this shit , he will be at the podium smiling later .
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 02:44 pm
The Packers were at 71% to make the playoffs with a win today.
They will be listed at 29% with a loss.
jhtobias
December 17, 2023 at 02:46 pm
Playoffs with this defense were at Zero percent chance lmao
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:49 pm
Since'75,
They don't belong in the playoffs, what you see is what you've got.
Why prolong the agony?
Lphill
December 17, 2023 at 02:44 pm
How much more do we need to see from Barry?
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:48 pm
Two more weeks? Lol
egbertsouse
December 17, 2023 at 02:44 pm
Yeah, at least we’re stuffing the run
Houndog
December 17, 2023 at 02:45 pm
If MLF is working on a new record of how many games he can lose in December, I'm hoping he won't get enough time.
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:46 pm
Allowing the Bucs to convert on 4th-and-two is the final indignity and an added infliction of pain.
Maybe now we fire Barry?
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 02:55 pm
I doubt that even if GBs defense gave up 72 points, MLF would still find many ludicrous reasons to keep his buddy Barry around.
It's so discouraging. I wonder how these young, talented players feel having to carry Barry every week?
egbertsouse
December 17, 2023 at 02:46 pm
Maybe this game will stifle all the bogus playoff talk. This team doesn’t deserve to be in the playoffs.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 02:46 pm
This game was so winnable at the start of the 3rd Qtr. TB scores on its first 3 drives of that half.
This is ALL on that obtuse, useless DC!
So likely no playoffs. Back to evaluation mode. Let's hope that MLF can wipe enough of the sh** out of his eyes and evaluates his DC accordingly...
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:50 pm
Who has MLF ever evaluated properly?
Not a rhetorical question.
MikeS
December 17, 2023 at 02:47 pm
2024 NFL draft--Round 1 a new DC
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:50 pm
Lol
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:47 pm
This is how the Packers have played all season. I think they gave some fans some false hope with the Det and KC wins.
Since'75
December 17, 2023 at 03:01 pm
Funny thing was, none of us saw the Chiefs and Lions wins....but i think most of us figured we'd beat the Giants and Bucs.
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 06:03 pm
That is a funny observation
PackfanNY
December 17, 2023 at 02:47 pm
3rd and 2 and they run RIGHT up the gut for an easy 1st down. Barry needs to go. We need to do something. The planning for next season should start tonight with the firing of Joe Barry.
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:53 pm
Yes.
At the end of last season JB asked his players what they wanted, and they gave a United and intelligent answer. If they played with NO DC, would they do worse? I fail to see what there is to lose by trying at this point.
The same could be said for showing Butkus the door, having Stenavitch take over those duties, and replacing the entire strength and conditioning staff.
Start NOW. This is a rebuilding year, give the new pieces as much time as possible to prepare for next season.
Bitternotsour
December 17, 2023 at 02:47 pm
Spanked at home. #sad
RobinsonDavis
December 17, 2023 at 02:49 pm
From here on, I want to see Rhyan and Caleb Jones every game. LVN and Wyatt more time. Give Cox, Anthony Johnson, and Anderson time. Let Valentine play nickel to see what he can do. AND let's put the shell defense on the shelf, please!!
Qoojo
December 17, 2023 at 02:49 pm
Nixon KR and ST only.
CanPackFan
December 17, 2023 at 02:57 pm
Don't renew Nixon. He's more of a liability.
packanimal
December 17, 2023 at 02:49 pm
Time to shop for Christmas presents for Joe Barry. Torn between gift certificate for a moving company and a list of good realtors
SicSemperTyrannis
December 17, 2023 at 03:57 pm
How about a Rick, like Charlie Brown?
Would a lump of coal be more festive?
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:49 pm
Never give up!
Fire Barry, and try to win the final three games.
kebab24
December 17, 2023 at 02:52 pm
I could not agree more!
Swisch
December 17, 2023 at 02:54 pm
Thanks, kebab, it's nice to know I'm not alone in wanting the Packers to play hard through the end of this season.
Why not go all out to win these next three games?
The Packers don't do quitting.
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