Tuesdays With Jayme: Playing in the Sandbox

Jayme uses her weekly space to tackle some issues going on in the blogesphere.

It happened as soon as I got to work this morning. Panic.

I used to love Tuesdays. I remember when I first started posting feature articles for CheeseheadTV. Having the page highlight my work for a day, was a big honor for me.

I’d been a fan of CheeseheadTV for years, which lead to small roles working behind the scenes, which led to me joining the fan based blog, which led to me taking on much larger behind the scenes jobs, and then becoming a weekly feature and daily micro blog contributor. It took time, at each opportunity I jumped because 1. I love the Packers and 2. I love this site. I wanted to prove myself and work hard.

For the past two years, Tuesdays were my day. They were days when I felt joy at sharing my voice and thoughts and times of discourse. I enjoyed reading comments and participating in discussions. Sometimes I love being proven wrong more so than being right, because the learning and engaging are part of the joys of being a writer and a fan.

But Tuesdays are no longer my day. Tuesdays are panic.

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I was a dorky kid, I’m actually probably a dorky adult, and I was far from being one of the cool kids. My family didn’t have a lot of money – it had a lot of issues. I didn’t have cool clothes or a smiling face most days. I was the girl who felt more at home with her male best friend talking football, or studying by myself, than I ever was with my girlfriends at sleep overs.

But for a brief time while I was in the sixth grade, I was accepted. I got invited to the cool girls’ houses, we talked on the phone for hours after school; I was in. It didn’t last long though, I was soon “kicked” out of the group, followed quickly by the prank phone calls, mean notes passed in class, and threats. I was the joke. To five or so girls, I was the worst and they never failed to let me know.

Looking back it was mostly “harmless” pranking and teasing, and a few threats of physical violence that never came to be.

For the weeks of teasing, I hated going to school. Four Mondays in a row, I missed the bus. I didn’t realize I was doing it, I just moved slower, as my feet and legs became heavier with dread and I never made it out of the house on time. One of my parents would then be forced to drive me and I sit paralyzed in the front seat of the car and would burst into tears.

I looked everywhere for ways out. To avoid living the misery that school was for me. I’m an avoider. I don’t make backup plans, I don’t fake being sick, I just try to hide, lay low, or not do something until the absolute last minute. I’m still an avoider today.

Eventually I made other friends and found a group I felt a little more comfortable in. At the end of middle school though, I left the school district. I couldn’t take it. I couldn’t take the anxiety that being around that group of people caused. I consider that decision one of the best ones I have made.

In part, because of the torment and my anxiety, I learned to rely on myself a lot. I didn’t seek outside approval for my thoughts, beliefs or esteem. I’m both analytical and emotional. I sit and stew and sit and think and over the course of high school, and into college, learned to love myself.

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But somewhere this morning, in between killing time finishing up things at work and trying to regulate my breathing as anxiety was taking over, the feeling of dread in the pit of my stomach started to feel familiar. I was avoiding my normal brainstorming process.

The same fear that kept me frozen in my parent’s car in my school’s parking lot when I was 11, lives in me today.

I’ve been tempted to write this post for a couple weeks now, but always stopped myself, expecting a slew of “can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen” responses. So I just kept my head down and kept writing. But now, this fear, my fear, is preventing me from writing. So this is me, taking control.

It’s a problem with society, it’s a problem with the internet, and now it’s a problem with me.

Over the course of this season, some of my posts, game day live blog coverage and tweets, have been met with hate. Hate-filled, sexist and awful remarks, belittling my thoughts and opinions. These comments are made not because someone disagrees with me respectfully, but because I am a woman.  Even on posts that aren’t mine, I am mocked, repeatedly.

And I have been hurt, and truthfully shocked, by the acceptance of this treatment by others on the site and the internet.

Now, I’m not talking about the amount of raised emotions since the Packers decided to stop winning. We’re all on edge. We’re all, for the most part, die-hard fans, ruled by emotions for a team we love, passionate about winning and angry and searching for answers to this losing streak.

I am talking about the repeated references to my gender, how I, and women in general, are inferior. References to my appearance (this is especially fun on the live blog when people either mock my large nose or ask if they can tuck me in at night), and to how awful it is that I am on this site.

I’ve had people come to my defense, both publicly and privately, and I appreciate it tremendously. But I’ve also had people laugh along with and embrace the hate. Or let it exist without disruption, which is a tacit admission of approval.

I tried, like my 11 year old self, to just keep my head down. I don’t read the comments from known offenders. When their email addresses appear in my inbox, I leave them unread. And while that worked for a while, I disliked that my solution was cutting of my enjoyment of the site and my fandom, while their hate remains unchanged.

I didn’t write for a week. I didn’t want to engage. I didn’t want to put anything out there, because I was sick of the potential hate I would be getting back. But it didn’t stop the hate from existing either.

So this morning I sat at my work desk, fighting the panic and one of my favorite ESPNMilwaukee radio shows, the D-List, began by ranking women based on their looks (as opposed to their talent). I then came across this YouTube video and was inspired by a strong and intelligent woman.

I chose to take today to put my fear to rest.

Back when I was 11, I was too afraid to speak up for myself and some might not understand my need to do so today. I take great pride in the person that I have grown into, and I’m no longer letting bullies control me.

You may hate. You might have sports radio hosts who yell for women to get out of his sandbox on your side. You may think that stating women are less than you is a matter of opinion and not hate filled speech that wouldn’t be tolerated if you exchanged the word women with any other group of people. There are a lot of things you may do, but controlling my fear and my love of football is no longer one of them.

I am here.

I am a woman, I know football, I love writing about it, and I love working at this site. None of your hate changes that.

And I am not the exception. I’m not the lone woman who frequents this site, or the only one sick of being told that my pretty little brain can’t understand sports.

If you can’t understand how to respect others, if you go out of your way to spell my name wrong, mock me and belittle me; if you can’t comprehend that I have every right to post here, and other women are allowed to comment, that is not my problem. It is yours.

It is a problem that can’t be solved by spewing more hate. But it is one that could be solved by learning to respect other people and embracing the things in every one on this site that make them unique and different.

I can’t make anyone change, but I can stop being their punching bag.

GO.PACK.GO

Jayme Snowden is a feature writer at CheeseheadTV and a contributor to Today’s TMJ4. She also co-hosts CheeseheadRadio, part of the Packers Talk Radio Network at Packertalk.com. You can contact her via twitter at @jaymelee1 or email at [email protected].

 

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Anthony's picture

December 03, 2013 at 08:59 pm

You are awesome, Jayme.

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Evan's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:01 pm

Very well said, Jayme. And I am sorry for the bullshit you have to deal with on this site.

But I have to say I take great issue with this statement: "Or let it exist without disruption, which is a tacit admission of approval."

At least when it comes to the comment section (I don't visit the live game blogs normally), I ignore the trolls spewing bullshit (both sexist and other forms) because engaging them is what they want. By no means does that mean I'm granting my tacit approval of their nonsense, though.

But I'm glad you wrote this and won't let the trolls stop you. I think you provide great insight and your knowledge and passion cannot be questioned.

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4thand1's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:02 pm

WTG. Never give in or give up , like the team seems to have done.

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Colleen's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:02 pm

Bravo, my friend.

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4thand1's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:02 pm

Are you sure you didn't play for the Dolphins and your really not a woman? JK.

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Calabasa's picture

December 03, 2013 at 11:28 pm

Einhorn...Finkle...Finkle...Einhorn!

Thanks for that

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phillythedane's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:15 pm

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Kathy's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:18 pm

Amen, sister.

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Jersey Al's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:20 pm

Well done, Jayme. Be no one's punching bag.

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Red's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:25 pm

Bravo. My sister is the biggest Packers fan I know and could run circles around some of the sexist clowns on these boards that shall remain nameles--*cough*Longshanks*cough--oops tickle in my throat. Anyways, well said.

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Rachel's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:30 pm

This is great, Jayme. So well written and thoughtful.

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tillzen's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:32 pm

Jayme they can not kill us and we are not giving up the high ground. We are here, we are clear and they can either get used to us or not.

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maxginsberg's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:34 pm

Rock on. You rule, Jayme.

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getacoop's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:35 pm

Nice post, Jayme. I'm forwarding it to my football loving daughters.

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packsmack25's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:58 pm

People should send it to their sons, too!

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Tom's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:36 pm

I think you meant "if you can't take the heat, get back IN the kitchen."

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Rob's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:39 pm

Well said. Thank you for continuing to contribute to this site. Go Pack Go!

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MarkinMadison's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:42 pm

Glad you came out swinging.

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Wayne Larrivee's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:43 pm

Jayme, you keep at it! Great column today!!

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Tom's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:45 pm

Go Patriots

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A_Lerxst_in_Packerland's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:46 pm

I've always enjoyed your writing and participation here, Jayme. Kudos for writing this post.

I was picked on when I was kid, so I identify with at least some of what you've gone through. Good for you to hold your head high and stand up for yourself. I sincerely hope that Tuesdays become your day again, as they should be.

GPG

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packsmack25's picture

December 03, 2013 at 09:55 pm

Excellent Jayme. Nothing but love for everything you do.

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vik's picture

December 03, 2013 at 10:02 pm

Amen!

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joym13's picture

December 03, 2013 at 10:13 pm

Great, great article Jayme!

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Bearmeat's picture

December 03, 2013 at 10:36 pm

Thank you Jayme. For what it's worth, IMO you've handled every issue you've had with people on this site in a classy, respectful and firm manner.

I have always thought of you as one who was neither afraid to engage in confrontation, nor eager to pursue it.

And that is a high complement that I can not say to many people.

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Bob's picture

December 03, 2013 at 10:38 pm

I hope my daughter grows up to be a strong woman like you but a Pats fan like her dad :). You're a great role model!

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Dani's picture

December 03, 2013 at 10:48 pm

This is really awesome. Greetings from Colombia, not Columbia :) jajaja. I really do enjoy your blog posts. #GoPackGo.

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Kg's picture

December 03, 2013 at 10:59 pm

Seriously everyone thinks they were bullied these days... Lol seriously I think America is becoming to soft. Nobody stands up for themselves anymore they just go for the sympathy card. Me I've always been taught to stand up for myself and don't let others dictate how I feel. Jayme I don't think you deserved any of the sexist remarks that were thrown your way at all. I do think it's time more people stand up for themselves. I'm so damn sick and tired of hearing grown adults complaining about being teased or "bullied" come on people show a little gall and stand up!

Btw.. I have always found your insight awesome and I appreciate what you bring to this site. I'm agreeing with your column just a little venting for myself was needed. Lol

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Calabasa's picture

December 03, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Agreed on the individual responsibility. Please tell me you've seen

www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YRMixW9u8

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murphy's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:58 am

What in the hell does this have to do with individual responsibility or standing up to bullies?

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calabasa's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:57 pm

Not a ton. Kg's post reminded me of Michael Douglas' character, who got "sick and tired" of how he felt the world was, and "stood up for himself". Great viewing.

I think America has gotten fat and lazy, and stupid, too. People bitch about the dumbest shit, and blame everyone else for their problems. Jesus, doctors are starting to classify fatass-ness as a "disease"! I guarantee you that if a person eats a lot less, they will lose weight. But that's another discussion.

The other side to Kg's opinion that "everyone thinks they were bullied" is, that in fact a lot of people are legitimately bullied, and have no way to stand up for themselves.

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Vik's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:29 am

I too think America has gone soft. We have gone soft on those who do wrong. We give them excuse after excuse while putting the responsibility on the person who has done nothing wrong.

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December 04, 2013 at 10:36 am

Wait, who was it that did wrong in this case? And whether you think calling out bullying is "being soft" or not, how exactly letting it slide good for American society?

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C's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:46 am

I could rant about what constitutes 'standing up for yourself'. There are intelligent, well-reasoned and emotionally stable adults that 'stand up for themselves' all the time. The right way, too. They use words, dissent and disagreement. They're then mocked and ridiculed because their response to physical or emotional bullying isn't returned in kind by becoming what they resent, a bully. The violence should be met with violence crowd may be worse than the bullies themselves. It's a regression of the worse kind.

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December 04, 2013 at 12:20 pm

Your wayyyy off man. First of all well here an example 5th grade went to middle school first day sum 7th grader started picking with me from the bus stop all the way to school then in the halls then on the ride home. My mom got home and I told her I ain't wanna go to school no more. Anyways two days later he hit me an I told my mom. My mom called my cousin Cortez he was like 18 19 and he came and told me the same thing ima tell my son should the situation come to him. "If you come back crying an whining about this kid anymore I'm gonna beat your ass." Well next day I went to the school bus he started in so I walked right up to him kicked him in his nuts and beat him unconscious. Then got on the bus. Of course I got a ticket and suspended for 3 days. But you know what? Guess who never said another word to me? Hell that punk went from 7th grade till graduation without ever even looking at me again. And it also became hard for him to bully anybody else I mean get k.o.'d by a 5th grader really kills any tough guy shit you try to pull. There's nothing wrong with two ppl fighting. In fact its good and healthy. And since we've replaced fighting with lawsuits and guns shit has got much worse.

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:58 pm

So much stupid.

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mudduckcheesehead's picture

December 03, 2013 at 11:16 pm

Don't let the bastards grind you down, Jayme.

Even though the comments section of the average CHTV post has become nothing more than a troll's bathroom, I think you can see that there are a lot of us out there who value your work and who love you for what you are - a fellow Packer fan.

Go Pack Go.

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jack in jersey city's picture

December 03, 2013 at 11:22 pm

very well-writted jayme. screw the haters!

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WKUPackFan's picture

December 03, 2013 at 11:33 pm

Right on Jamye!

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Calabasa's picture

December 03, 2013 at 11:47 pm

Don't worry about being an outsider when you were young, Jayme. So was Nagler, iirc (what up buddy :)

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gbslapshot's picture

December 04, 2013 at 03:18 pm

Very true. Nagler hung out at the same club that I did when he was young. Everyone popular was afraid to go there and said that we were all weirdos :)

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Chris's picture

December 04, 2013 at 05:03 am

Well said! And as someone said (don't know who or even if anyone actually really said that at any point) before you start feeling depressed or unworthy, have a look around you and make sure that you're just not simply surrounded by fools!

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C's picture

December 04, 2013 at 06:39 am

The substance and content of your articles are fantastic, thanks. I still frequent the site, but rarely engage the comments section any longer. Keep up the good work!

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Nerd's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:24 am

We support you Jayme. The more dipshits like Longshanks post stupid bullshit, the dumber they make themselves look.

It makes you look bad when you call for white knights, but I think most of the people are taking your side anyway.

When you're successful, people will come out of the woodwork to attack you. This is because they are pathetic bitches who don't have a life. They will try to bring you down, because they can't bring themselves up.

Normally everyone attacks me, because I call attention to Aaron's stat whoring. So it's really not because "you're a woman." That's just something they've stumbled upon which seems to push your buttons. It's actually because you're successful. Don't stop being that. ;)

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:06 am

I completely disagree with your "stat whoring" theory, but you're able to have civil conversations about it...so you're okay in my book.

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MarkinMadison's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:25 am

I'm going to call "b.s." on the "white knight" thing. Yes, everyone has to be able to stand up for themselves, but silence can easily be mistaken for approval. It's one thing to engage in honest argument. It's another thing to start throwing sex, race or yes, even sexual orientation, into the mix. Women may never play at the NFL level due to differences in physiology, but anyone who thinks they can't understand it, or would lack the same mental or physical toughness as NFL players, is only fooling themselves.

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Nerd's picture

December 04, 2013 at 03:08 pm

No one's saying she can't understand football. Like I said, I like her analysis.

I just get sick of these dudes parading around like they're everyone's daddy. You're not gonna score points with the womenfolk dude. This is a Packers forum, not a singles bar.

We get it, you're more praiseworthy than the rest of us. Got anything related to the subject matter?

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markinmontana's picture

December 04, 2013 at 03:55 pm

Nerd, I think the point of the majority of the comments in this post were not necessarily to come to Jayme's defense, but show agreement with her own defense.

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Nerd's picture

December 04, 2013 at 04:37 pm

Fuck you, Longshanks.

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UP-Packer's picture

December 04, 2013 at 04:15 pm

"...dudes parading around like they’re everyone’s daddy."

Geez, it's 2013. It's faddish to be politically correct even if your response is as swallow as a dry creek bed. Many of these dudes will show their responses here to their significant others & hope it leads to getting laid tonight. ---- Everyone has a motive.

BTW, to be clear. My response has nada to do with anyone.

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UP-Packer's picture

December 04, 2013 at 04:37 pm

Shanks, that's alright. I'm not really looking for any agreement from anyone.----- As far as your posts. They are disappearing because you are even less genuine than most of the posts here.

You would like to help Jayme out?? --- Somehow I doubt that.

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 04:52 pm

"Many of these dudes will show their responses here to their significant others & hope it leads to getting laid tonight."

You think that might work?

Be right back...

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 05:44 pm

Yeah...did not work.

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MarkinMadison's picture

December 04, 2013 at 06:21 pm

Nobody's looking for praise. Go back and read Jayme's article. "And I have been hurt, and truthfully shocked, by the acceptance of this treatment by others on the site and the internet." If you don't speak up, you're enabling the assholes.

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 06:53 pm

"If you don’t speak up, you’re enabling the assholes."

Couldn't disagree more. Attention is what they want.

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Nerd's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:24 am

Btw, the chick in that video is cute.

A bit whiny, but doable. lol

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Franklin Hillside's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:49 am

Just...wow.

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Nerd's picture

December 04, 2013 at 03:13 pm

Of course I'd have to dump her for epistemological reasons.

I reject the empirical method as a rigorous epistemology.

http://thehatefulnerd.livejournal.com/11882.html

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Jay's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:28 am

Hell yes, keep up the amazing work Jayme!

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RC Packer Fan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:31 am

Jayme, I have said before that I have great respect for you. I truly mean that. You should feel great about being able to write for this great website.

It is not fair that you have to put up with peoples crap because they have issues in their lives.

I really hope you don't take their stuff seriously, because a lot of people that come to these pages aren't here to talk about Football or the Packers. They are hear to try and start fights with people which to me is complete bullshit...

I come to this website to talk Football because I have a very high passion for the Packers. That is why I come here. I want to talk football. I personally don't care if the people I'm talking with are Men, Women, Old, Young, Straight, Gay, Black, or White... I don't care. This should be one of the few places where we as Packer fans can come together and have rational conversations about the Packers.

I am truly sorry if you have been having a rough time here with certain people's remarks.

Just remember, that there are a lot of people out here that do respect what you do. I really hope the people that have been hating on you read this and realize what asses they have been and apologize to you.
You deserve that. Really do...

Just remember a lot of us do respect you, there is just a few out there trying to ruin it for everyone else.

Keep up the great work.

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keeley2's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:57 am

I have sent a link to your article to my two football loving daughters. Hopefully, they will gain inspiration from your words. Keep fighting the good fight Jayme - it's worth the effort.

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bigfog's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:17 am

Thank you for writing this Jayme. As the father of a four year old girl, I want her to grow up in a world where the sort of behavior you describe is looked upon with scorn rather than acceptance.

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gbslapshot's picture

December 04, 2013 at 09:32 am

Touche

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steve's picture

December 04, 2013 at 10:08 am

Ignorance is a very challenging thing to overcome. And that is especially true on the internet. If you try to respond to some of these dorks with reason, they only respond with more hate and bigotry. They recognize there is no intelligent argument to support their position, so they try to shoot the messenger, and behind the veil of the internet that can be done with ultimate impunity. That is the reason I do not try to argue with such folks. If that is considered to be a tacit acceptance of their bigotry, I am sorry for that.

Conversely, if it is any consolation, the overwhelming number of folks on this site admire and are grateful for the work you do. As someone who does not live in Wisconsin, and greatly misses the state and spending time with fellow Packer fans, I look forward to reading the articles and commentary. Sometimes I make a comment, but I am not really a smart enough football fan to question the coaches or scheme or mgmt, although I would never give a troll the satisfaction of responding to their bs.

Please recognize you are doing a great job and enhancing our ability to enjoy our passion for the Packers. I hope in some small way this helps you keep on keeping on.

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markinmontana's picture

December 04, 2013 at 10:25 am

The fact that all of us blog posters are emboldened by the fact we are anonymous entities has been talked to death. You are at the point where your name and face are put out there along with your comments, which gives them a bit more weight and makes those who hate on you a bit more cowardly, in my opinion. I think you knew when you posted this that sooner or later the trolls are going to do what they do and post an inflammatory comment in this space and rile up the masses. When that happens, remember that you stand on higher ground.

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UP-Packer's picture

December 04, 2013 at 11:17 am

Shanks, you're hilarious.
Do you really think you can fool anybody with your new-found attitude. My guess is that the majority of this blog was written because of you. --- Memory issues?

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MadJam's picture

December 04, 2013 at 11:25 am

+1

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PackFan21's picture

December 04, 2013 at 11:13 am

I'm also a woman. I've read this site passively for years. I've watched the live chats on game day, even though I've never participated. I never felt the need. Until today.

There are sometimes that I have not agreed with Jayme. But never because of gender. I've always respected her. That's not what flushed me out. It's that one individual in the comments section was able to create such emotion in an otherwise strong woman. Jayme, don't let this nimrod (and I'm sure everyone knows who I am referring to) ever make you feel like less than you are. His comments always have and always will say more about him than they ever will about you.

Chin up, girl!

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 11:17 am

Well, that lasted about 14 hours...not too bad.

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RC Packer Fan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:28 pm

what lasted 14 hours?

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:57 pm

Idiot free comments.

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RC Packer Fan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 01:05 pm

That long? yeah, I would have guessed it would have been a lot less to be honest...

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MadJam's picture

December 04, 2013 at 11:31 am

You use sexist and don't even know it. This comment wasn't directed at Jayme, but it's still yours.

Longshanks on Packers Calendar: Seeing if Evan Dietrich-Smith Practices.
"I am afraid we are all turning into a bunch of whiney women worried about getting hurt. Football is a man’s game. Are there any men left here anymore? Now you want to sacrifice an entire season because of fear? Good God!! The Packers might as well dress up in all pink for these next four games because that’s about where we are headed."

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December 04, 2013 at 12:03 pm

Jayme look plain and simple never get under your skinbthings ppl say hiding behind the keyboard. I'd bet if we had to link to our Facebook accounts these type of comments would die out. But to me you deal with a bully the same way as always, bust em upside their head. That's what my mom taught me since day 1 and always stand up for yourself. Next time they start talking that junk bring that shit to the light!! Comment right back fuck what they say because because that TRUTH will stand on top of some idiot on his cpu, spewing worthless garbage, I read here fairly infrequently, so I can't say I even recognize your name, shame I don't check the authors names. But to you I say don't fold to the BS stand up for yourself I'm not saying jump into pissing matches with idiots but, when you hit an idiot upside the head with truth common sense and intelligence, they really look stupid and I'm almost positive most would be on your side which may lead to your trolls being "flamed" off the site. What you should have done is posted their user names and their private emails they use to send hatemail.

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C's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:36 pm

This is great advice, Jayme. When confronted with mindless, flaming violent twits there's no other way to contend with them but become a mindless, flaming violent twit.

Embrace all those uber-masculine tendencies that helped Robbie through gradeschool. Who needs to evolve beyond gradeschool???? Worked for Incognito.

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Jayme Snowden's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:45 pm

I think the best advice I could give anyone on a bullying situation is to be yourself, be honest, and do what makes you feel confident and strong.

When someone comments on this site they leave an email. I could have "fought" back by publicly shaming them & posting IPs or emails, I could have spammed their emails to no end, I could have lobbed insults till I was blue in the face. And I'm sure for some out there, that would make them feel like they won. But it wouldn't have helped me. It would have made me feel weaker, like I was letting them win by changing and lowering my standards and actions.

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Robbie Henges's picture

December 04, 2013 at 12:23 pm

Oh and Jayne don't forget this is ALL OF OUR sandboxso here's some buckets and some little green army men ???? FTW???

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FITZCORE 1252'S EVO's picture

December 04, 2013 at 01:32 pm

Haters-gun-hate. Don't let fools like Dongspank get you down, you're a far better person, therefore, you win.

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aussiepacker's picture

December 04, 2013 at 03:47 pm

You are 1 of the first people on twitter I ever followed and 1 who has never failed too respond to a tweet or post I have made directed at you. For that I thank you and enjoy the passion to sport not just the packers you bring. I have learnt a lot about football from you Jayme and for that I am truly grateful.

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Point Packer's picture

December 04, 2013 at 05:25 pm

Ass clown.

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Point Packer's picture

December 04, 2013 at 05:29 pm

Ha! That comment was in response to another dumb Longspanks post. Looks like it was deleted. That makes me really happy.

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Evan's picture

December 04, 2013 at 05:31 pm

Seriously. Love to see some moderation taking place.

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Wisconsinexile's picture

December 05, 2013 at 02:20 am

Here here. About time this place got cleaned up. Been coming here since 2009, and the comments have steadily degraded over the past two years. I scarcely read them anymore, except to find POC entries. I miss the old days, back when Behnke was trying to convince everyone that Tramon Williams had promise.

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gbjohnny's picture

December 04, 2013 at 05:36 pm

From the beginning of time there have been small men that were intimidated by women.

Under no circumstances let weak men control how you feel.

Carry on with unwavering belief in yourself.

Know in your heart your unique and true.

Only by sinking to their level, are you not above them.

Forge ahead with your dreams and goals.

Forgive their ignorance if you can.

and for Longshanks, this really is for you. But only the first letter in each sentence.

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FITZCORE 1252'S EVO's picture

December 04, 2013 at 06:04 pm

:-) I see what you did there.

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Wisconsinexile's picture

December 05, 2013 at 02:22 am

FTW!

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Point Packer's picture

December 06, 2013 at 01:22 pm

One of my top ten favorite posts.

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reggie92's picture

December 04, 2013 at 06:24 pm

Jayme, you are a thoughtful, inciteful person and the intelligent ones will recognize and appreciate that. Don't spend any time worrying about what some 16 year old nitwit on a computer in his mom's basement has to say about anything.

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Ruppert's picture

December 04, 2013 at 06:35 pm

Jayme, you are one of the best members of, and contributors to this web site. I have a ton of respect for anyone who takes the time and effort to break into writing about any NFL team. Aside from the fact that I would stink at it, I absolutely could not put up the predictably idiotic comments. And I'm sure I can't even imagine how bad it is when gender comes into play.

You do a fantastic job with the Live Blog, and I have yet to read any of your pieces that I did not think was well thought out and well done, whether I agreed with the premise or not. People don't have any clue how hard it is to sit down and write something.

I really wish I had more time to hang around here so I could give more shit to the collection of assholes that have chosen to come here recently. Just remember: they all suck.

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fish and crane's picture

December 04, 2013 at 07:53 pm

I didn't know you were a woman- like it matters. 70% of NFL male fans never put on a helmet and I venture to say that of the biggest loud mouths 90% never played and cover up their perceived inadequacies with vitriol.

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trvs's picture

December 04, 2013 at 10:08 pm

A very good read. Thanks Jayme for all the hard work you have dedicated to this site.

It is baffling how ignorant some people can be. All we can do is be supporting fans for the teams we love, but to criticize individuals on any site is so petty. It's amazing how the Internet "blog-voice" has become the opportunity to bash people's passions and ideals. The Internet is this wonderful platform of self expression and the majority of users feel the need to spew comment garbage. The cyber world has created this false sense of security for people to feel tough behind their keyboards and it's such a waste of time. Its crazy talk.

Go Pack Go.

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jmac34's picture

December 05, 2013 at 01:22 am

Sexism and racism are two of the dumbest creations in human history. A person is a person is a person regardless of race or sex. Experiences shape us not our sex or race.

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Wisconsinexile's picture

December 05, 2013 at 02:34 am

I've been surrounded by sports fanatic women my whole life. I had a female QB on my Pop Warner team as a kid (in the 80's even, go figure). She was great, too. Glad you stood up for yourself to claim CHTV as your turf. It is. Shanks is not welcome here. We've humored the trolls here long enough. We used to have thoughtful, passionate, and intelligent debates. The occasional troll would be tolerated then usually got bored and left. Would like to see moderation happen, or at least some community policing of trolls. Moar Packers football talk, way less Longshanks/Cow42/Rocky horse hockey. Go Jayme, and Go Pack!

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Denver's picture

December 05, 2013 at 12:44 pm

I'm a little late to the party, Jayme, and sorry for the BS you've had to put up with. Just let me say you're top-notch in my book as a Packer fan and more than likely as a person too from everything I've seen.
And I NEVER would have heard of the Drunk Kitchen girl if it weren't for you :)

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MP4X's picture

December 05, 2013 at 03:48 pm

As father of 2 women in their 20's, I've raised them to not NEED a man to make it in this world. It's not that I don't want them to have a man in their lives (both do, and one is married). Nevertheless, men can be assholes, and shouldn't be necessary to validate the self-worth of any woman. And when a woman has self-worth and can run with the boys, well, the boys feel threatened and start lashing out like the boys that they are. I am more than happy that my daughters have acquired an appreciation for football (and specifically Packer football), and appreciate the work that you do at Cheesehead TV. Hold your head high, and keep up the good work.

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Point Packer's picture

December 06, 2013 at 01:26 pm

Jayme - Thanks for writing this. Shared it with my wife, whose an occasional reader and who had previously been seething with rage in response to some of the blatantly sexist remarks in the comments section of your pieces. She was thrilled you wrote and posted this.

I truly appreciate your perspective on these issues. A great read, well suited for CHTV.

Point Packer

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