Olson Misses On Super Bowl Talk
There's nothing wrong with a confident team talking Super Bowl in August.
By PackerAaron
Drew Olson of OnMilwaukee.com, Co-host of The D-List, and no doubt fine overall gentleman, has taken umbrage with all the Super Bowl talk coming from the Packers locker room:
The only way I think it's right for players to do that is if they're trying to repeat -- or three-peat -- as champions. I mean, really.... why give other teams, fans and writers any ammunition? What if the Packers lose the opening game on a last-second play? The Super Bowl talk during training camp will get thrown back in their faces and they could end up back-pedaling from their own embarrassing comments.
It's time for McCarthy -- or maybe a team leader like Aaron Rodgers or Charles Woodson -- to tell the boys to stick a sock in it. If you are asked about the Super Bowl, say that is always the goal in Green Bay and that's why you're working hard, but you have lots of work to do and play in a tough division and, the good Lord willing...
The excellent use of Bull Durham aside...
I get where Drew is coming from. The last three Packers teams that had legit shots at the Super Bowl - 2003, 2007, and 2009 - did not start the year out talking about the Super Bowl. In 2003 and 2007, the Packers were still searching for their identities. Last year, after their hot preseason start, the media and the fans were the ones ready to send them to the Super Bowl. (You'll remember that Corey and I were the ones tempering the enthusiasm)
This year is different.
This is the first of many years that the Packers have every right to be openly talking Super Bowl. This team has been building toward this moment - and by "moment" I don't mean the 2010 season. I mean the window of opportunity that this team has open over the next two or three years.
And as far as Charles Woodson tempering enthusiasm...ahem:
Now, again, is the season a "failure" if the Packers don't reach the Super Bowl? Hardly. But I have no problem with a team that is confident, ready to take the next step and unafraid to talk it up...in August. I mean, when are guys allowed to talk about the Super Bowl if not training camp? Good god. All this "offending the sports gods" stuff is beyond silly. This is the one time of year that even the Lions can talk Super Bowl if they want. And as for the whole "bulletin board material" angle - I just don't see it. Teams are focused on surviving two-a-days. They are not obsessively checking out quotes coming from each and every camp of each and every opponent they face in 2010. Believe me, they have plenty of motivation to beat the Packers without putting up clips from the dog days of summer on the bulletin board.
My hunch is that we'll see things quiet down once the preseason starts anyway, especially if the Packers look good. Last season when the Packers went 4-0 3-1 in the preseason and were anointed Super Bowl favorites heading into Week One...well, we all remember how that turned out. I think McCarthy remembers as well and will start clamping down on the public Super Bowl talk once the preseason games begin. And even if he doesn't, that's not going to be the difference in the Packers winning or losing games - their play on the field is.
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Comments (18)
August 09, 2010 at 10:15 am
"I'm thinking Superbowl." As long as Woodson slams Romo again and CM3 strips the ball from AP. The two best plays of last year, lets do it again this year.
August 09, 2010 at 10:28 am
I can't remember way back then, but didn't the '96 and '97 squads do some heavy Bowl talk in training camp?
PackerAaron
August 09, 2010 at 10:33 am
Brett Favre told the world to best against him/them.
August 11, 2010 at 10:22 pm
Super Bowl talk is a good thing of course, but deep down we need to win the division first, and slam Favre and the queens into the next year!
August 09, 2010 at 11:36 am
Butler publicly stated the goal was to be undefeated after the SB win.
August 11, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Maybe it's revisionist history, but I've recently seen some of the NFL network stuff on the 96' Packers and how they came into the season as a team that everyone thought was going to be really really good. I don't think you can really say the same for our team this year -- I expect us to be good, but we still displayed a lot of weaknesses that teams are sure to make an effort at exploiting. Right now I think the onus is on the Pack to show they can stop a good passing game against good teams. Last year had a lot of "gimme" games on the schedule -- including TB.
August 11, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Very good point Frost.
August 09, 2010 at 10:31 am
I agree with Olsen. I was always taught that when you're good, you don't rub it in the face of the opposition. You go on the field and let your play speak for itself.
Having said that, Super Bowl or Die!!!!
August 09, 2010 at 10:38 am
My personal preference: I would rather listen to open Super Bowl possibility chatter than cliche after cliche after cliche following every single pre-game/post-game interview.
But hey, "I'm just gonna' take it one game at a time and prepare for that next opponent."
"Each week is our Super Bowl."
(barf)
PackerAaron
August 09, 2010 at 10:42 am
How is it rubbing it in someones face when no opponents are mentioned? This is not Detroit! This is the Super Bowl! ;)
August 09, 2010 at 10:55 am
Would you rather they picked out somebody to "stick it to" for motivation?
August 09, 2010 at 10:59 am
I like my team having an eye on the prize and not just playing for a paycheck. Time to nut up or shut up!
August 09, 2010 at 11:34 am
3-1 in the preseason.
But I'm being a jerk here. The message is loud and clear, and I completely agree.
August 09, 2010 at 12:39 pm
These days players are too well schooled what to say to the media anyway. All those lines, always repeated, over and over. (CSS posted some).
I love some honest talk, even if it sounds like bragging. And being on a good team, why not say you think you can go to the Superbowl? Heck, it should be everyone's goal.
August 09, 2010 at 02:05 pm
Bravo!!!! Very well said.. All the teams talk up Super Bowl. Its a way to keep that confidence going strong. Nothing wrong with it at all... I'm sure the players/coaches, etc all know that it is a long road ahead.. So let them talk Super Bowl all they want...
August 09, 2010 at 08:53 pm
Fake it 'til ya make it!
Honestly, though, old tyme Packers fans always get uncomfortable when confronted with hope. It's a reflex honed after watching two decades of optimism getting crushed under the heal of bitter disappointment. If you are over the age of thirty, then you know what I'm talking about. ; )
August 09, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Definitely think this his point is sort of silly. None of the comments mention a specific player or team at all. I would assume if you're going against a team you assume that their goal is to make it to the Super Bowl. I don't see how any team would even give a damn...
"Hey guys! Nick Barnett said...erm...that he wants to make it to the Super Bowl!"
*crickets*
"You know what he was meant by that though...he was talking 'bout yo momma! Let's get 'em!"
August 11, 2010 at 05:13 pm
The ensuing talk on the matter just drug on. This talk would have been spot on in 1996 just not now. Like I said yesterday, what used to be cockiness is now enthusiasm.