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Vikings: 17 Packers: 14 The Good, Bad and Ugly

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Vikings: 17 Packers: 14 The Good, Bad and Ugly

Halting The Vikings' Run Game, The Developing Joe Thomas, Pressuring Sam Bradford

Mediocre Rushing Attack, Damarious Randall

Aaron Rodgers, Mike McCarthy's Play Selection

 

 

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RCPackerFan's picture

Perfectly said. I can't really add anything else.

mrtundra's picture

Ditto.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

The Good:
Daniels, Guion, Perry, Peppers, Thomas; CM3

The so so:
Tretter, Burnett, (Lacy & Starks for vision) RR

The Bad:
Randall, Schum

The Ugly:
Aaron Rodgers (physical and mental), MM, Clements/game plan

dobber's picture

Have to really start feeling good about Joe Thomas and what he's been doing in limited snaps. He's really progressed.

i thought the ILB, in general, looked good last night.

croatpackfan's picture

Tretter was so so? He was ruined by Linval Joseph whole night! He was almost always out of place. The most pressure comes from his zone of responsibility! He goes to ugly not so so!

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Yeah, almost put Tretter in the bad. I think Linval Joseph is a great player, really tremendous, so since Joseph beat Tretter like a drum on a handful of plays, in my imagination I worried it might be worse. I even went on the Daily Norseman and wrote about the match up between Joseph and Tretter. The So-So category should be read as the Not-So-Good category.

Anyone think Tretter can play guard? I've always questioned it.

Packer_Pete's picture

Rodgers was beyond the ugly, there should be a separate category for that...

RCPackerFan's picture

I don't recall a worse performance. He should have had 3 Interceptions and 3 fumbles lost. He is lucky his teammates recovered 2 of his 3 fumbles, and should be happy that the CB's dropped 2 easy interceptions.

Trying to find the good... As bad as Rodgers played they lost by 3, on the road in their rivals home opener in a new stadium.

Bearmeat's picture

If AR doesn't start playing like AR, they don't deserve to go to the playoffs. And he is going to come under some serious scrutiny this week.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

The Rodgers McCarthy exchange on the sideline was highly telling to me.

Aaron rolled his eyes up and turned his head away from Mike. That's total BS. It reminds me of Favre and Sherman, and that is not good. Things like this almost never change before a significant upheaval.

Aaron is plain and simple the reason they lost that game. The rest of team was good enough to win, even Davante. Aaron needs to start with himself. He needs to learn to take criticism and direction.

carusotrap's picture

Yes, Rodgers was awful, but that's not the problem. The playbook is full of trickery and plays that look good in the classroom but don't get you a yard on 3rd down. The one stretch of the game where they went with some quick, short routes and efficient running plays, they marched down the field. And then on 3rd and 1 - or something like that - they call some sort of 20 yard back shoulder lob pass that works 10% of the time.

It may be that AR is changing to that play or McCarthy is calling it, but they need to stop thinking there's more value in the style of the play than the result.

dobber's picture

Boom.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

So you are blaming Rodgers ignoring wide open guys in the middle of the field on trickery in the playbook?

What trickery? the tosses to Lacy? The repeated sideline iso routes? They're not fooling anyone with their insipid playbook.

al bundy's picture

dont tell Mikey

croatpackfan's picture

Only trickery is performed by Aaron Rodgers who constantly trying to sell penalty on D for getting free play, so he can toss the ball down field w/o fear of interception. That is why he always trying to get all the time on the play clock. Opposing teams already found out his "clever" candence and just waiting for the last second to launch the attack on OL. This is only trickery that looks good in practice and will never looks good on the field!

Amanofthenorth's picture

10% of the time is being generous. That play was ugly, Rodgers wasn't pressured and quickly threw it into the front row. That play was a the biggest of the many puzzlers.

lecko's picture

Sorry to use this thread but have you guys read TJ LANGs comment after the game, published on packersnews.com . Between the lines he is saying that Aarin should get rid of the ball quicker and his waiting is causing all problem . I dontz think TJ would say that before Sitton events. Now he is priobably certain that they dont like to resign him and he allows himself to talk what he thinks about offense. Now the question , will TT and MM bear with him or wil they release/trade TJ during season too ?? . Here is the whole quote: "Don’t get me wrong,” Lang said. “I’m not trying to blame someone else. We definitely have to be better up front, but it felt like there were a couple plays there where it starts getting to five, six, seven seconds, and it can be a little frustrating at times. We know we’ve got to block as long as Aaron is holding the ball, because that’s when he can make some of the big plays when he extends it. But, yeah, it’s a team game.
“If we’re not getting anybody open, and he’s scrambling around and he gets sacked, it’s on the whole offense. Everybody’s got to do their job. But, yeah, I don’t want to point fingers at anybody else. First and foremost, we’ve got to be better up front, but when it comes to you see some of those hits and sacks kind of late in the play, it gets a little frustrating.”

jfajas's picture

12 looks like the bad RGIII
That's the problem with this offense!
He was beyond terrible.
And as much as I would like to consider this a fluke, it looks like a trend: he's been mediocre at best in the last games.

Nick Perry's picture

Okay RC I'm sober now, well actually for the last several years but that's a different story. My comment about Cow last night?? Call it just plain disgusted.

Good...The run defense WAS great. They have completely shut down two offenses trying to run the ball. Hope Guion is okay, him and Daniels were beasts last night.
The LB'ers are all playing well. Perry, Matthews, Ryan, Thomas and Martinez. Peppers looked much better last night as well. Perry made some beautiful plays both in the run game and rushing the passer.

The Offense is absolutely pathetic. Rodgers is a notch above or below that, depending on which plays you're talking about.
Barclay comes in for one play and gives up a sack. Can someone tell me if Center, RT, LT, and now LG ins't his position, then WHY is he still here!!
Nelson had a lot less to do with this offense being bad last year and through 2 games this year than Rodgers. The TD pass to Diggs reminded me of a Rodgers pass to Jennings in the SB or even on a Sunday night game against Minnesota 2 years ago. Bradford sat in the pocket knowing he was going to get hit, Rodgers would have been running and completely missed the open WR.

I made a point to look at most of the plays where Rodgers began to get happy feet and run before he maybe needed to. Most plays he had a wide open receiver who he completely ignored. Either McCarthy stopped coaching this guy, or Rodgers stopped being receptive to coaching. Either was it's not working, and hasn't for about 15 weeks now. Side note..Edgar Bennett has been the OC since last season and the offense has completely tanked. To lazy to look but this is like the 15th or 16th game in a row Rodgers passer rating below 100. This is a HUGE problem!

Jordy will get better as the season wears on but this team really lacks any speed. By the time Thompson gets around to drafting players with some speed and the coaching staff coaches em up, Rodgers will be 35 and the window might have completely shut.

The secondary which was supposed to be the strong suit of this team is leaking and leaking bad. When Shields goes out the Packers play a lot more zone. It seems players just sit back and watch the receivers run to the soft spot and do nothing about it.

The Excellent..... The deal I arranged with Direct TV, I received Sunday Ticket for free this season. If I had to pay $300.00 to watch this for the next 14 weeks, I'd would be like extra salt in the wounds.

RCPackerFan's picture

Hey Nick...
I am right there with you on frustration. And honestly I meant no disrespect with the sober comment.

Rodgers had I believe his worst game as a Packer. He had 3 fumbles, was lucky that his teammates recovered 2 of them. He had 1 interception and should have had 3.

I'm not sure what is going on with the offense. It seems like until late in the game there is no rhythm to the passing game. Also, I know they like to go hurry up, but do they need to stay in the same personnel groupings down after down? Unless they find some rhythm why not change up the offensive looks more often?

Your comments on Rodgers getting happy feet and the WR's not being open kind of go hand in hand. Rodgers has had open WR's and he has either missed throwing to them, or takes off running when he has a WR open.
On Davis' first pass route he ran, he was WIDE open in the middle of the field. Rodgers either didn't see him or ignored him. Would have been an easy first down.
Also, why are the TE's being used so little in the passing game? I think they need to find ways to attack the middle of the field a lot more with the TE's.

I think McCarthy needs to start doing what Holmgren used to do with Favre. Call some easy plays early in the game, to get Rodgers into a rhythm.

Nick Perry's picture

Hey RC, I know you were joking. I'd have thought the same thing if you said "Cow is right". I saw the Davis play too, that's one of many I was referring too. At the end of the 2015 season and all off season McCarthy talks about needing a "Big Body" running down the middle of the field yet Rodgers continues to throw the ball up the sideline 10 yards past the receiver.

Richard Rodgers might be slow, but the guy catches anything in his zip code. Cook's hands have seemed just fine in the limited number of balls thrown his way. Montgomery's ankle is obviously okay because he's returning kicks and playing ST. I'd still rather see Monty in the backfield than Cobb. The Packers have absolutely zero speed at the RB position. Monty is bigger, stronger, and about as fast as Cobb. He had made some nice plays last year before he was hurt, yet this year he hardly see's the field...SMH...

dobber's picture

Speaking of Cow...we know the bovine is out there lurking, just waiting for his opportunity. It's like saying "Beetlejuice" three times...

Nick Perry's picture

I think he struck last night already, but I'm sure there's a part 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 to it too.

RCPackerFan's picture

Completely agree.
Right now, the offense just feels out of sync. It seems like they haven't figured out how to use the TE's yet in the offense. But both Rodgers and Cook looked good catching the ball. I think they need to find a way to get them the ball in the middle of the field more. And actually Rodgers looks a lot faster compared to last year. I think they need to get them the ball more.

I agree about Montgomery I don't get why they don't use him on offense. To be honest I am not sure why they aren't rotating guys in more. Per Nathan Jahnke, the Packers final WR snap count for the game was: Cobb 70 snaps, Nelson 67, Adams 55, Abbrederis 6, Davis 5.

While I think Adams is ok and better then last year, Does he deserve to play 50 snaps more then Abbrederis and Davis? I don't think so.

I think the offense needs more speed on the field. Find ways to get Davis, and Montgomery on the field more.

carusotrap's picture

Their biggest problem is that McCarthy will never change something when it's not working. "We have to execute better." Well, coach, that's right but after 15 games of this, either your team can't execute better or what you're asking them to execute is the wrong thing.

croatpackfan's picture

I will tell you what I think Mike McCarthy need to do! He need to sit down Aaron Rodgers for at least one game, put Brett Hundley as starting QB and Joe Callahan as back up. Aaron should be inactive for the game against Lions. That would be the rightr message! Nobody is larger than Packers, nobody and I really think that Aaron starts to act like diva. Packers will soon have the same problem they had with Brett Favre.

jeremyjjbrown's picture

It's a sad day when I have pondered this as well. If I was Mc and was resorting to this I would do it privately. AR would be doubtful for the game and then he would be out. It would be up to AR to share or not share the reasons why.

baldski's picture

I totally agree, CroatPackFan! A San Francisco scout said the reason they passed on Rodgers in the draft was that he seemed too cocky to them.

Maybe this is showing through. Bench him for a game and see if his attitude changes.

dobber's picture

"The secondary which was supposed to be the strong suit of this team is leaking and leaking bad."

I'm not going to go back to what I and others have said about the experience and depth of the secondary as a concern for this defense, but I'm not going to hang this game on them. They held the Vikes under 20 points. In this day and age of NFL football, if you hold an opponent under 20 points, you need to win.

WKUPackFan's picture

Hi Nick - Congratulations! 11+ years here.

Starting to get concerned anytime AR doesn't release the ball "in rhythm". Previously those plays weren't as concerning, as it seemed something good would happen from the waiting/scrambling.

Speculation isn't my game, but if it were, perhaps AR is looking to challenge his own talent. He's achieved everything possible, and has been and will continue to be acknowledged as one of the greatest QBs ever. Uber talented people tend to become bored with activities once those activities are mastered.

fastmoving's picture

believe me...he is not über talented.......by any means

WKUPackFan's picture

I'd say being the acknowledged best NFL quarterback for several years qualifies as uber talented. In addition, AR seems to be the most intelligent player in the NFL (Luck or Fitzgerald are alternatives) and an extremely intelligent individual overall.

Nick Perry's picture

That's awesome WKU, I'm approaching double digits myself God willing. You're right on about Rodgers, he doesn't release the ball in any consistent rhythm so it's impossible for the offense to GET in a rhythm. The Packers are back in the friendly confines of Lambeau until October with a bye after next week.

BTW... The Hilltoppers are looking good!!

cuervo's picture

The question of whether it's scheme or something else has been answered. We now have 20 games where the offense is mediocre at best, with the same problems.
When you entire offense resolves around the QB running around and attempting to "make something happen" you have issues. Receivers can't get open, and when they do, #12 can't throw the ball to them. There is no flow, no identity, and no apparent "plan" to hang your hat on.
Rodgers needs to start playing in the preseason, don't know if that will actually help, but wow was he awful last night.
Even with the issues the defense had, they held the Vikes to 17 points, we should win every game under that scenario.
This has being going on for so long, I doubt it's going to get resolved.....I hope I'm wrong. This could be signaling the end of the MM era.

carusotrap's picture

We may be seeing the end of the MM era, but it's going to take a LOOONG time for that to happen.

And they could certainly turn it around, but it's going to take a titanic shift in offensive philosophy that includes dusting off the opening 30 or 40 pages of the playbook. I'm just not sure that MM will ever admit that. He's got this idea that you somehow get more points for a single 40 yard trick play than a TD scored 4 yards at a time, and his QB believes the same thing.

Finwiz's picture

Nailed it.....MM has lost the ability to motivate or innovate, and Capers has lost the schematic ability to create a defense that can perform under pressure. Capers should have been fired 2-3 years ago, but the stubborn "McCheeseburger" decided to stay with him due to his brand loyalty, and not the pressure will be on him...the head coach, as it should be. The end of the MM era could very well be at hand.

thebeast431's picture

To me, its the same as last season. Rodgers needs to start running for first downs and throw more screens. With no threat of running (QB or RB), the defense can play cover two and no one will be open.

Horse's picture

To me, it looks a lot like the MM/AR mix is poison at this point. I really don't want to see a sequel to Sherman/Favre, but.

Bearmeat's picture

That's exactly it Horse.

MM and AR need to look in the mirror. Then they have two choices:

1. Humble themselves. Admit they're not infallible. And start using the TEAM around them to strive after Lombardi #5.

2. Continue doing what they've been doing for a full calendar year. Miss the playoffs. Blame others.

The Sherman/Favre comparison is chilling. And apt.

stockholder's picture

Good: Ryan ,Perry, pressuring the QB and stopping the running game. Bad: Adams, Randall. Ugly , A-Rod, and MM.

Razer's picture

Let's give credit to the Vikings defense. They are young, fast and play well together.

Aside from Aaron's weak play, what happened to our emphasis on running the ball. If we can't make teams respect our ability to run the ball, we need to live on our QB's ability to thread needles. And, that hasn't been happening lately.

Sure not looking forward to a year of waiting for our WR's to get open or our offense figuring out how to use TE's. Maybe MM will clean things up this coming week?!

dobber's picture

Thanks, Razer. Minnesota is a poor barometer for determining where this offense is because they're going to lock down many teams. We also know that as a DC in Cinci, Zimmer stifled the Packers a couple times. It would be easy to shrug this game off that way, but we all saw how this offense played last night, and it wasn't until they were getting the ball out quicker toward the end that things picked up...and Lacy even found some running room.

I think we spent so much of the week disparaging the Vikings on offense that we seem to be unwilling to give them credit for what they did on defense. Take away Trey Waynes and they pretty much shut the Packers out...and in the end, he closed them out.

Still, with how that game played out, the Packers held a surprisingly good Sam Bradford (even with an ineffective running game) to 17 points when they couldn't do anything but spit and fart on offense. The Packers dared him to beat them, and he did. How much do the Packers miss Sam Shields? I can't help but think that if he's playing, this game might have been a 10-7 or 7-6 finish.

No week 2 game is a must-win, and, frankly, I think before the season many of us had this one penciled in as a loss. You hate to lose division games, but this is a game that is an understandable loss. It makes that late-season game against the Vikes very important, though. These next four games -- all at home -- will be the litmus test for this team. There aren't any Vikings-type defenses in that group, and the offense needs to get on track, find its timing, and start rolling. They should demolish Detroit next week. If they can't hang 30+ on the LOLions?

carusotrap's picture

I want to know what happened to the West Coast offense.

dobber's picture

When was the last time the Packers really ran the West Coast Offense?

Oppy's picture

Not under MM.

Oppy's picture

To be fair, I guess you can say the fact that the WR routes change on the fly based on the DB coverage as the play unfolds is taken from the Walshian WCO, but the way MM's system attacks the defense is not high percentage ball control passing, its vertical stretching.. definitely not true WCO

mrtundra's picture

I don't want to give credit to the vikings defense. Ever. The win was there for the taking when we had the ball late in the 4th quarter. We blew it.

Rossonero's picture

The good:
1. The defense. Loved the pass rush.

The bad:
1. McCarthy choosing to go for it on 4th and 1 instead of a FG to make it 10-10. The Vikings quickly made it 17-7 after getting the ball back.

2. No running game. Lacy vanished for long stretches and wasn't on the field because...why?

3. Another game with a wasted timeout because of poor communication.

The ugly:
1. Don Barclay. Why is he still on this team?

2. Rodgers. Held onto the ball WAY too long, poor ball security and poor pocket awareness. He also missed several throws. I was screaming at the TV for him to throw it away.

3. Demarious Randall. People forget his first half of 2015 was great, but his 2nd half was average to poor. Last night was his worst game ever.

4. Offense sucked. No big plays whatsoever.

carusotrap's picture

Big plays? I'd take a bunch of small plays. The problem is that they think big plays are the only thing there is.

Rossonero's picture

Who are "they?" Packers coaching staff? McCarthy has always talked about big play production, yet this team, outside of a miracle Hail Mary and two Hail Maries in Arizona have had next to nothing in the running or passing game.

Big plays are categorized as rushing plays that are over 10 yards and passing plays that are over 25 yards. The Packers are tied for 21st thus far. There may be some merit to your argument about small plays, because the Vikings rank dead last in this category of big plays.

However, I'm pretty sure the Packers coaching staff and many fans expect more out of this offense. This is unacceptable.

MarkinMadison's picture

The Good: ILBs covered the flat very well; Guion and Daniels stuffing the run; Nick Perry & Co. pressuring the passer.

The Bad: Punting, pass coverage.

The Ugly: WRs; Don Barclay; Aaron Rodgers.

Questions: Is it the WRs or the QB or both? Are the WRs not getting open because they are too slow or because they are not consistently creating separation by detailing their routes correctly? I can't help but notice that since Edgar Bennett has not been the position coach for the WRs their play has dropped. Someone above hit him or being a bad OC (who doesn't call plays in game). Maybe the Packers still don't have an effective WR coach. Or maybe EB does a bad job scouting the game plan. Or maybe both.

MarkinMadison's picture

P.S. I think CM3's best position may be ILB at this point in his career.

dobber's picture

Let's be honest: just like last season, there were open options for ARod and he just flat-out missed several. There were times, too, where he threw good balls that skipped off hands or were well-defensed. The WR coach can't give these WR a step...and let's not lose track of the fact that this Vikings defense is fast, physical and aggressive. They're built to beat the Packers. You'll notice we started to see more bunch formations out of the O later in the game?

I like where the Packer defense is going, especially if Shields can return to no ill effects from his concussion. They missed him last night. But I think the offense doesn't really have a fire in its belly. I think we all expected the intensity to ratchet up a notch or two when there was the tussle in the endzone after the ARod TD run, but it really didn't happen.

WKUPackFan's picture

Re: Receivers not getting separation. The pre-2015 AR would "throw guys open". That just doesn't seem to be happening lately. The reason(s)? Open for all the analysis/speculation that we can handle.

fthisJack's picture

Rodgers overthrew 2 open receivers by 20 yards early in the game that could have been TD's. What the hell happened to this guy?

Handsback's picture

You don't have a Rodgers who as a QB that goes from 105 QB rating to the 70s w/o an issue with either the tactical or strategic plan of attack. I was hoping the old OC would come on board and shake things up....but as of now, Green Bay/Rodgers are wasting his years as a top flight QB and aren't looking like a playoff contender. More like a playoff pretender.

Nick Perry's picture

That's an excellent point about Philbin, I had hoped the same thing. Then again I had hoped for Wade Phillips to replace Capers after 2014 too. McCarthy has definitely lost Rodgers and perhaps the whole team. I like many of the guys ideas, put Hundley in for a game and wake Rodgers up! I swear to God his head was on the Emmy's instead of the enemy.

This IS week 2 and they COULD turn it around. But after last years 4-6 finish, 1-1 in the playoffs, this team is 2 games UNDER 500 or 6-8 since week 7 last year. I think if they were going to turn it around they would have....If they could have.

Bill Utech's picture

Is Rodgers seeing ghosts, this is an 18 plus game issue now and everyone keeps saying it'll be right, wait till next week. Well next week keeps coming and going. Rodgers is over throwing, under throwing or just holding the ball and the line just can't protect him for 5 or more seconds.

Totally agree with this from yesterday's game, but enough is enough, if not for the Waynes' penalties would Pack even had 14 points?

lennysmalls's picture

Just putting it out there, but if the Packers end up going 8-8 and Rodgers has a worse statistical season than last year given the addition of Nelson and Cook, then they should trade him for some picks, free up some cap space and hopefully sign some proven defensive free agents such as Eric Berry, Kawann Short, and maybe another offensive weapon such as Alshon Jeffery. Aaron Rodgers looks more and more to be just a guy, getting ready to be Mr. Hollywood and making more State Farm commercials.

Spud Rapids's picture

I'm thinking the noise contributed to no hurry up offense. That has been the most effective offensive scheme dating back to beginning of last year and I think it's because Rodgers just plays an doesn't overthink things. I think he is in his own head. He needs to get back to the days of him slinging and running around having fun. He was way too serious all night, every time the camera was on him his face was ice cold.

Hire Jon Gruden's picture

Good: Defense front 7.

BAD: McCarthy & Thompson still employed. NO game breaking threat in running or Passing game

UGLY: Incompetent HC ruining Rodgers career. Back to Back HOF QBs & wind up with 1 ring each. Anybody remember TT refusal to part with 3rd round draft pick, for M. Lynch????

Packmaniac's picture

Lots of good comments, people, so I won't go into repetitive detail.

The good: The game ended so we know we're not living I n the Twilight Zone

The bad: no need to add to the great points made above

The ugly: can I please earn six figures for sucking like our punter does?

One quick play-calling note: Tear out the 3 yard deep pitch back page from the playbook and burn it.

Packmaniac's picture

Lots of good comments, people, so I won't go into repetitive detail.

The good: The game ended so we know we're not living I n the Twilight Zone

The bad: no need to add to the great points made above

The ugly: can I please earn six figures for sucking like our punter does?

One quick play-calling note: Tear out the 3 yard deep pitch back page from the playbook and burn it.

Hire Jon Gruden's picture

Mike McCarthy had presser last week said "He is Boring by Design" GUESS again MIKE! Your Coaching/Play calling is BORING, hopefully your BORED in Unemployment line soon??? and Take Cadaver Thompson with you..

BAMABADGER's picture

Would have liked to have seen Hundley play for a few series.

BAMABADGER's picture

Would have liked to have seen Hundley play for a few series.

lecko's picture

I think the problems with packers offense kind of correlate with "structural changes" of coaches and having so many chiefs probably causes something like "too many cooks spoil the broth". There is McCarthy on top, then there is Bennet, then Clements, then Van Pelt..

To the good I would add:
nobody is mentioning Lane Taylor.

Christopher Gennaro's picture

agreed lane taylor is settling in quite nicely

ray nichkee's picture

The good- adrian peterskin being walked to the locker room. Normally I don't wish this on any player on any team but he beat the shit out of a little boy and joked about hitting his ballsack.

The bad- adrian peterskins leg wasn't laying on the field after he got up.

The ugly-adrian peterskin being allowed to be on the field and make multi millions when josh gordon gets punished for doing something that doesn't physically hurt anybody.

jyros's picture

Rodgers stole that pay check! Was he smokin' that medical maryjiwana? Maybe league should test him!?

al bundy's picture

I think the LB play has improved a lot and so has the pass rush so far. What I'm seeing is what other teams are seeing, the pass d is so porous, screw the run game, get your mileage passing on this team and run sometimes.
Until something happens on the pass defense, its going to be a long season
There is just no talent there. 5'10 guys who weight 190, slow of foot and quickness aint gonna get it done for you.

Since '61's picture

The Good: Run defense, mike Daniels, Nick Perry, Guion before injury and Jared Cook.

The Bad: D. Randall, OLine, D. Adams

The Ugly: Aaron Rodgers, 4th and 1 call with Starks instead of Ripkowski or Lacy, best offensive play is DPI!!!

I think this may be the first or second time at most that I have placed AR in the ugly category but he cost us the game last evening and that has not happened very often since 2008. No excuse for it. He is not injured and he had plenty of open WRs. Time for MM to have a chat with him. Thanks, Since '61

Point Packer's picture

Yeah, Cook abandoning a first down was awesome. What game were you watching? That was a huge mistake at a really bad time.

WinUSA's picture

The Good: Minnesota didn't have TWO Diggs.

The Bad: The Pack had ONE Randall.

The Ugly: Bradford's ear to ear smile.

Point Packer's picture

Can't imagine what it's like to be Mrs. McCarthy..

Mrs. MM: "Really, missionary AGAIN. C'mon Missionary Mike, let's spice it up for once!"

MM: "Nope."

lebowski's picture

Starting to get really annoyed with McCarthy-speak at press conferences now. His analytics and statistics and efficiency and opportunities and fundamentals and corrections and…..

croatpackfan's picture

What would you expect him to say. "Aaron ruined our chances!", "I'm resigning in week 2 of the season!", What? Those press conferences are obligatory, not willingly for coaches and QBs. They never say anything important. It is always fundamentals. If coach use post game press conference to state anything important, than youo have huge problem inside the organization. That means you can not get what you want and you need to talk to media for influence on the owner or any higher positioned guy in your organization.
That would be reason for panicking!

lebowski's picture

Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Sheesh.
MM talks like all he does is crunch numbers and statistics and probability charts for success, then comes out on gameday with the same crap over and over, including not running the damn ball enough. And he should resign in week 2!!!!

lebowski's picture

Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Sheesh.
MM talks like all he does is crunch numbers and statistics and probability charts for success, then comes out on gameday with the same crap over and over, including not running the damn ball enough. And he should resign in week 2!!!!

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"The Bears still suck!"
"A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall. "
"I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle – victorious."