I like Tonyan, but I would rather have a second round pick. Between Sternberger, Deguara and Funchess (who played TE at Michigan), I think Tonyan can be replaced and another second round pick could fill a different hole (DT, OT, CB).

!st round tender is a no-brainer.

Blue chips or bust should be Packertown's operative mode this year. Move up for a guy if necessary. The Costco buying trip crowd is still stuck in 2010.

As long as he drafts starters in the later rounds. You'll think differently when Dillon smashes through defenses and your left drooling with a silly grin on your face.

If all I had to do was give up a 2nd rounder for Tonyan, I’d do it in a heart beat. It’s a no-Branner for an opposing GM. Big Bob has proven all year he is a talent and a scorer. We don’t want to give him nor Jones away for a pick that won’t match the talent and experience. I hope our GM is all in with these 2. We need to tag Jones (another no-brainer) and make sure no one signs Tonyan without giving us their #1.

Ya I would never give up a 2nd rd pick for Bob, I'd question a 3rd rd unless its a good team that needs a start now 2nd TE.

Mercedes is filling a different role as he is an inline specialist. Same for JD as he is a Hback specialist. Tonyan is not a good inline blocker but has steadily improved to be decent. To me It's Jace and Tonyan competing for the Offensive rec weapon. Personally I'd like them to spend a late pick on an inline TE that's very tall and can be a short yardage/goal line/ base 2 TE player that can spend a year under ML. Even if it's on the PSquad.

ML is the best one for that role right now.

So much just depends on Jace.

I don't know if the Packers have made an actual offer to Rodgers about restructuring yet. They may have approached him or his agent about the idea but may not yet have come up with the actual terms. The Packers and Rodgers may be waiting to see where the actual cap numbers end up.

In any case I believe that Rodgers will agree to a restructure as it gives him the opportunity to end his career in Green Bay. On the other hand, Rodgers is healthy and smart. He could decide to retire while he is still in one piece. If he does that all of these other conversations become irrelevant as the Packers return to the pre-Lynn Dickey era in terms of QBs regardless of who they re-sign or draft.

Rodgers will play the long game for as long as he can. He is in a win-win situation. Thanks, Since '61

Yet Rodgers isn’t Rothlisberger or Brady, he is the 2020 NFL MVP. If either of the other two QB’s were to have replaced Rodgers last year, the Packers would have likely been an 8-8 team. Of course they restructured their contracts as neither of them are currently the best at their position, regardless of Brady’s pedigree. Yet fans now expect Rodgers to rework his legally binding contract or take a pay cut like Rothlisberger? After the Packers spent years of his prime not giving him the tools (other than Mike McCarthy who was the biggest tool in the NFL) he needed to succeed? I wonder if there is an active player who continually gets taken for granted by his spoiled fan base as much as Aaron? “Yeah man, if he really cared about winning, he’d just take less money so they could be more competitive”... insert eye roll.

If they think he's the real deal, they can probably retain him at a 2021 cap hit with the tender that's less than what they might end up giving him in 2021 as part of a 3-4 year deal with modest guarantees. It's a weird balance between trying to take advantage of the RFA system that should allow them to keep him at a relatively low number, protecting him from being poached, and keeping him happy long term (if they believe) at a number that makes sense in balance with the rest of the cap. It makes teaching college kids look easy.

Good plan Coldworld. Thanks, Since '61

Sounds like wisdom to me, Coldworld.

As a converted WR, Big Bob is still growing into his role as a TE. Given how hard he works at it in the offseason, his level of "want to", and what improvements he needs to become a "complete" TE, odds are in his favor. And, the $1.5 m seems like peanuts in the big picture.

Why risk a proven valuable piece, at reasonable $, for an unproven second rounder?

That's not how you value a player as much as a position. Evaluating the player has to do with how he performs with the opportunity given. In those terms he was avg.

Deguara is 6'2" and 3/8ths and 242 at the combine. He might not have the frame to be a big-time blocker. He ran a 4.72 forty and a 7.12 3-cone at the combine.

Tonyan isn't huge but he is 6'4" and 5/8ths and is pushing 250 last I heard. Tonyan ran a 4.58 forty and a 7.15 3-cone. He still needs to improve his inline blocking but it isn't bad. We haven't seen as much ability to separate downfield as I expected for a sub 4.6 guy. We have seen Sternberger get open downfield even if he wasn't targeted.

Close call. It would have to be a pick in the first 10 spots of the 2nd round (33 to 42) for me to prefer a 2nd to getting Tonyan back. TEs are just so hard to find.

unrealistic.

see Bakhtiari, David.

The Packers are not going to blow it up.

The FO clearly believes they have the nucleus for championship caliber performance.

The problem is that we have been spending all of our cap for a lot of years, giving contracts that players perhaps did not deserve, coupled with some failed drafts that left roster talent holes that were later filled by FA and large $$$ instead of signing our own (they didnt perform well enough to justify). The GBP never had a bad enough team with players that could be outright cut to actually lower the cap enough to create maneuverability.

Now we have some roster holes along with some upcoming justifiable high dollar players (Alexander, Jenkins, Savage, Gary) which must be cap-planned for and oh by the way, we gave above average-worth and mega deals to Bakh, Clark, Rodgers, Zadarius, Preston, Turner, Adams, Lowry, Amos... without whom the GBP would not be in contention now.

Complain all you like, I NEVER see any viable solutions from you Taryn. It is easy to criticize, do you actually have a better way to resolve the issues of team building in the salary cap era when you have top of the league talent at multiple positions already on your roster? I thought so...

BTW, NEVER take the Bares as an example. Until their ownership and management are flushed they will always be the bares... and they still suck!

Sorry Taryn, your characterization of this as a team that is "not good enough" or "cannot put a SB team together" doesn't hold up to sound critical evaluation.

This is a team that has arguably the best CB, WR, and the best LT in football. The league MVP at QB. Clark is top five at his position and the safety tandem was rated the best in football by the end of last year. Jenkins is All-Pro and as valuable an offensive lineman as there is in football for his ability to play anywhere on the line. Throw in Z. Smith and Tonyon and obvious emerging talent in Gary. Rookies who showed well in Dillon, Barnes, Martin, and Deguare. The best offense in football last year and at least the middle of the pack on defense.

That's at the very least the core of a team that CAN win it all.

Two players had awful games when it counted; King gave up 14 points and held onto his opponent's jersey like a four-year-old holding onto a kite trying to get away. And Jones gave up 7 points with the early 2nd half fumble. 21 easy gift points! There were a dozen ways the Packers could have and should have won the game, against a team that crushed KC in the SB.

There's a difference between a team that can win or one that will win. No one knows who will, but I think any reasonable person will say the Packers can.

You do realize that nobody here can actually make a deal for GB, right?

This is all anyone here can do. Offer opinions brimming with speculation.

You don’t approve of fans talking football?

Why are you here?

And my fear is the Cap will be lower. (or about the same) Still waiting for the TV deals to be done. That will tell the tale.

The Packers and the fans cry more because they don't have the money to over pay for low-impact one year wonder FAs.

Losing all 3 won’t sit well with any fan that I know. That’s just too much talent to let go in a year.

They probably are and you're just not on their websites. Some might not be simply because their teams stink and they look at this free agency period as an opportunity.

Yep. Thumbs up.

I think that Sternberger might be cut with a bad training camp. I dont think that a second round tender is out of place for Tonyon. I also am hoping that Deguara is becomes our Kittle-Kelce because I agree that neither Sternberger or Tonyon get much YAC and that needs to be part of being a great tight end. So I see a need this year to keep the guy you know will produce (Tonyon) and hope that it is only for this year if Sternberger becomes what we expected when drafted. And it might be nice to have Sternberger and Deguara on the field at the same time if his concussion and other injury issues are over. Finally - I think that after what Prescott signed for ( which was ridiculous - but that is Jerry Jones) it is going to be fun to watch what and how they treat AR in his contract salary rejigging.