Three WRs Who Could Be on the Packers’ Radar Following the Combine

The Green Bay Packers had a special interest in the first day of the NFL Scouting Combine.

The Green Bay Packers had a special interest in the first day of the NFL Scouting Combine. The day that partly featured the wide receivers. Obviously, GM Brian Gutekunst kept a close eye on every day and position at this year’s combine, but wide receiver is a spot they will definitely address this offseason.

There were some impressive performances from the receiver group last Thursday, as a few guys helped their draft stock quite a bit. As the combine tends to go, some did themselves more favors than others by participating. But here we focus on the heroes, not zeros. The ones who shined are likely on Green Bay’s and Gutekunst’s radar if they weren’t already.

These are the three wide receivers that helped their stocks the most at this year’s combine:

1.     Denzel Mims, Baylor

When I watched Mims’ film pre-combine, I saw a very good athlete. Good burst off the line of scrimmage, good balance, body control, and a strong ability to high-point the ball. However, I was still pleasantly surprised by how well he tested. Mims logged a 4.38 forty time, 38.5-inch vertical, 10’11” broad jump, and a combine-best 6.66 three-cone time. His three-cone caught me off guard the most because I was not sure about his stop-and-go ability. Those doubts have been laid to rest. I still don’t know if Mims is worth a first-rounder, but I also don’t see him lasting until the Packers’ second-round pick at 62. It’s a tough position to be in, yet all I know is I wouldn’t mind having Mims in Green Bay.

2.     Chase Claypool, Notre Dame

Honestly, I haven’t turned on Claypool’s film yet, however, what I saw on Thursday was damn impressive. How can you not be impressed when a guy is 6’4” 240 pounds and running a 4.42? Claypool joins the legendary Calvin Johnson as the only receivers to run a sub-4.45 while being at least 6’4” and 235 pounds. Pretty elite company to be in. Oh, and he also had a 40.5-inch vertical. Claypool very much fits the mold of the type of receiver the Packers like to draft. Big, fast, and athletic. The former Notre Dame wideout finished his college career with an impressive 66 receptions for 1,037 yards, and 13 touchdowns in 2019. Expect him to come off the board at some point on day two of the NFL Draft.

3.     Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan

Athleticism was never the question with DPJ. The guy can flat out make plays. His catch radius and hands are two of his better traits in my opinion. Still, he did a good job showig up on the big stage, and probaby made himself some money. At this year’s combine, no one challenged Peoples-Jones for the top vertical. His 44.5-inch jump was the best of 2020 by 2.5 inches. He followed it up with a solid 4.48 40-yard dash, which I thought was a good time for him. His play speed seemed lacking on film. Overall, I thought Peoples-Jones had a good showing and secured his status as a day-two prospect. 

 

 

Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:24 am

Lots of people will bristle over using combine results in evaluations. And then scratch their heads when games like the NFC CG show the Packers lack the athleticism to compete with some NFL teams.

Athletic testing is an important tool in the process. Mike Mayock had a great quote about WRs transitioning from college to pro. He talked about how the NFL puts grown men opposite WRs, creating a different level of challenge. That means you can only trust the tape so much. One of the most clear example of that involves OL prospect Ben Bartch. He played D3. What the hell is tape going to tell anyone? He's going up against insurance salesmen, not NFL players.

All in all, there are about 12-15 guys in play for rounds 1-2, IMO. If the people that were key in scouting Adams, Nelson & Cobb are still in the building, Gute ought to lock them in a room for a couple of weeks to go over the 12-15 with a fine tooth comb.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 02, 2020 at 06:49 pm

At least 5-6 WRs will be gone in round one, then another 5 by mid-second. Don't believe the cream of the crop will fall to #62. The group of wides coming from high school league and college are more sophisticated in their training than a lot of the previous players.. Three yard s and a cloud of smog is no longer the norm.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 02, 2020 at 08:58 pm

Let's just put some names into those possible groups.

5 in round one might be: Henry Ruggs, Jerry Juedy, CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, Laviska Shenault.

5 by mid-round two might be: Jalen Raegor, Brandon Aiyuk, Tee Higgins, KJ Hamler, Denzel Mims.

That leaves these 5 for late 2/early 3: Michael Pittman, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Van Jefferson, Bryan Edwards, Chase Claypool.

Maybe guys go up or down a grouping. Maybe you throw in some different names. Anyone from group A, B or C is a big upgrade for the Packers. If all 15 are gone by round 2, that will mean 1 in every 4 players selected is a WR. For 2 full rounds. I keep hearing that might happen. I'll believe it when I see it.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 03, 2020 at 01:28 am

Pittman may fit the Packer profile, but they have a similar guy in E-quan. J.J's son has a foot issue that needs repair, Edwards was solid ,but the same injury history issues. Mims has put himself up the board ahead of Shenault. This is a draft where Gutedkunst has to move UP in the second round to bag better talent. DPJ is similar to Equan and his catch radius mimics Lazards, but he is not quick twitch. It still seems they go WR at the #30 with this group. We cannot make any predictions until we see what they want to do with free agency.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 03, 2020 at 06:10 am

Move up? What for? I listed off 15 guys. And did not complete the list of quality players. Add in names like Tyler Johnson, Devin Duvernay, Antonio Gandy-Golden, Isaiah Hodgkins, Gabriel Davis, Qartney Davis, Lynn Bowden, KJ Hill, Collin Johnson, John Hightowner, Kalija Lipscomb and James Proche. That's another 12, each of which have drawn praise from some draft observers to having a particular skill that might translate to the NFL. Heck, despite his disappointing combine run, let's throw in Quintez Cephus to make it a baker's dozen. Maybe he runs better at his pro day to revive some of the chatter that he'll be a day 2 pick. Or maybe it just doesn't matter that he can't run in a straight line in shorts for 40 yards as fast as you'd like.

Not all of them will be stars. Each one have some questions. That's the nature of the draft. But we're talking about replacing guys like MVS and ESB. There is nothing magical about those two having survived on the roster for 2 years. As far as I can tell, they are still the same players with the same questions that pushed them down the draft boards to rounds 5 and 6 two years ago in a weaker WR class.

It would be pretty easy to move back and still grab 2 of the guys I've listed off. Or even another name I didn't list off. Because there are still more. Heck, I'd rather trade down and grab 3 than trade up to get one. I've run through plenty of draft simulations. Very few of them had the Packers staying put at 30 and picking a WR. I have not been disappointed with the WRs selected in many of them.

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March 02, 2020 at 06:48 am

Mims also fills the SPARQ metric Gutey loves. Claypool is interesting and there’s been talk of a shift to TE. That’s honestly c what I thought when I watched his tape pre combine. He looked like Jimmy Graham to me.

Obviously we’re going to add a WR or two will be interesting to see who that will be. Can’t wait!

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March 02, 2020 at 08:32 am

It's hard to try to figure out what a GM likes based on things like SPARQ and RAS. In 2018 Brian really seemed to be looking for guys with high RAS. That's why i tought Juan Thornhill (RAS of 9.92) was going the be the pick. Then Gutey goes up in the draft to get Savage (RAS of 8.35). Lost a bet because of it LOL.

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March 02, 2020 at 03:31 pm

Claypool at 6'4", 240 and running a sub 4.5 40 could make a great TE. However, to max his value he would need to hold up against some big men when blocking.

He already has practiced hands having been a WR, and should have some understanding of routes. I reckon he has more to work with than a guy like Tim Tebow, who several people saw as a TE. If he was there in round three, you'd have to think hard about taking a chance.

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scullyitsme's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:18 pm

I don’t think there is a chance in... clay pool is around in round 3. I’d be estatic if we got him in round 2. My guess is after the combine he won’t last past day 1. The guy is a stud. I think he’s drafted as a reciever, probably top 5.

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Turophile's picture

March 02, 2020 at 08:25 pm

Claypool is currently ranked at #109 on TDN and the Packers 3rd pick is #94.

Even so, you may be right that he rises, he has the combine numbers to, if his tape is good enough.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 03, 2020 at 06:23 am

There is definitely a chance that Claypool is around in round 3. This WR class is filled with guys. They won't all be drafted near the top end of their projections. WRs would have to fly off the board at a ratio of about 1 in every 4 picks for that to happen. I seriously doubt it will play out that way. There are plenty of good players at other positions as well.

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Guam's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:45 am

So much of what the Packers are going to do is contingent on Bulaga. If they resign Bulaga, it opens up a great deal of flexibility in the draft but closes down some flexibility in free agency (where the best help is on the defensive side of the ball). If the don't resign Bulaga, they almost have to choose an OT at #1 or #2 latest, but it does give them more flexibility in free agency (including making a run at a top DL or ILB or even a TE).

I would prefer they resign Bulaga and focus their top draft pick on a WR. The Packer offense needs to be more productive and protecting Rodgers is job one and giving Rodgers more weapons to work with is job two. I think the Packers can shore up their defense with lower priced free agents/lower draft picks but the offense needs to come first this year.

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March 02, 2020 at 08:32 am

I would not be surprised if GB took an IDL in the 1st round, if one worth taking, is there. We need to stop the run and Kenny Clark needs a playmaker lined up next to him. We also need an ILB, no matter what happens with Blake Martinez. Kenneth Murray, Troy Dye or Patrick Queen may fill that bill if Gute wants ILB early. WR is also imperative for the Packers. The draft is loaded with them in every round. Depending on who falls to our pick at 30, a WR may be taken there. We do not know if Gute will try to move up or down the board, either. He has three 6th Round picks and two 7th Round picks and may trade a variety for our pick at 30 to move into the upper 2nd round for a pick he has been looking at or up higher in the 1st Round for a playmaker there. I think if Gute moves on the Board, it will be down the Board into the upper 2nd Round, though.

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March 02, 2020 at 11:28 am

I wouldn't mind an IDL in round one, but from everything I have heard from the draftniks, there are two very good IDLs that will go early and then not much until late second or third rounds. I think that may eliminate an IDL at #30. I suspect at ILB (Murray, Queen or perhaps Baun) may be available at #30 and would certainly fill a hole. I think BPA comes into play here as I would take the best (most highly) rated of either a WR or ILB at #30.

I think the Packers need a couple of WRs in this draft so I also expect one between rounds 4-7.

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March 03, 2020 at 03:52 am

I think your absolutely 100% correct...It depends, A LOT on who the Packers sign in FA. This past weekend we keep reading about players the Packers were going to make a "Hard Run" at in FA. Since when have we EVER heard about a player the Packers want to pursue??

The Packers are one of the most tight lipped organizations in football. Then in the span of 2 or 3 days we're reading about the Packers plan at making a run at Hooper, Kwiatkoski, and finally Littleton. Something is very strange about that.

Personally Murry scares me. The man played a defense that was like a wet paper towel but I'll admit I don't know that much about him. I'd prefer the Packers spend some top resources on offense for once. My dream is Hooper, Kwiatkoski and a 1st round pick on a WR if one is there they have to have. If not then the 2 same FA, a RT, and a move up in the 2nd to get the WR.

I also thought I read (not 100% sure) the Packers haven't had any talks with Bulaga's agent. Did anyone else read anything like that?

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March 02, 2020 at 06:52 pm

I believe Bulaga walks.

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Handsback's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:47 am

Claypool seems like a great TE candidate for selection in the 4-6 round area. I doubt any WR will be taken by Green Bay in the first round. Too many holes and really can get good WRs anywhere not so much for DTs/ILBs or OTs.

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March 02, 2020 at 09:05 am

He's an intriguing guy. Two productive years in South Bend, but didn't do much against elite competition. Nice game against IaSt in their bowl game. Still, for a guy who ran well in shorts, he doesn't have a lot of big play receptions in college. Rates as an excellent blocker in the run game which might make him attractive to the Packers, too. He might be a trade down candidate. Could be his 40-time will elevate him for some GMs, and he might not last very far into round 2.

People look at HWS numbers and automatically peg players as "WR" or "TE". OK...he's a big guy, but is unlikely to play with his hand on the ground. Not a TE. Mostly a perimeter guy, but also some time as a big slot.

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March 02, 2020 at 07:16 pm

He would be a perfect move TE. Line up all over the formation and use Sternberger as the inline TE. List as TE but certainly not a traditional TE.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 03, 2020 at 06:17 am

What is the attraction to having a "move TE"? Isn't that just a guy that plays like a WR but isn't listed as one? What does that add to the overall picture? Athletically, Claypool is WR. I see no point in converting him to TE just to say they have a "move TE". Put him in the WR room and put guys that are real TEs in the TE room.

If they really must have a "move TE", maybe they can say Davante Adams is that guy. He could line up all over the formation and present challenges for the defense. He is certainly not a traditional TE. So if there is some value in having that, he would definitely provide it. And then, if they do draft Claypool, they can let him develop more naturally in a positional group that more fits the way he'll actually be used.

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March 03, 2020 at 11:48 pm

A move TE is very similar to an HBack. Line up in the slot, as a FB or wide. An HBack was generally smaller than a regular inline TE anyway just like Claypool. It seems to me he would be over matched as an inline TE, and probably has trouble separating if he's being covered by a CB. By using him as a move TE (or HBack if you will) you can probably dictate the coverage he faces and get him in favorable matchups.

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March 02, 2020 at 07:23 pm

I watched a lot of his games, if we can get him in round two I think it would be a steal. I don’t think he lasts past day one though. The guy catches everything, and that 40 time for his size. Ridiculous.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:39 pm

He was given a round two-three grade prior to the Combine, as a WR.

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RCPackerFan's picture

March 02, 2020 at 08:02 am

I really believe we come out of this draft with 2 WR's, and 1 RB. Also I could see us coming away with a TE. I think we will see a big shift offensive talent after this draft.

For WR's, I wouldn't be surprised if they did a 2008 like deal and trade down into the first part of the 2nd round to take one. While picking up an extra 4th round pick.
I think they will draft a WR in the first 3 rounds, and will take at least one in the last 4 rounds.

Whether these are the guys we will see. But I have a feeling our weapons on offense will look much different then last years.

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March 02, 2020 at 10:59 am

I think if their D man isn’t there at 30 trading down is a strong possibility due to so much talent in the WR and picking up another 3rd or 4th round draft pick. If they traded further down in the second they could get an extra 3rd. Of course, things change a lot based on FA.

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dobber's picture

March 02, 2020 at 11:56 am

I think trading down will be hard. A lot of teams will be looking to do it.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 04, 2020 at 03:04 pm

If they have a targeted guy, moving Up with Seattle makes more sense.

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March 03, 2020 at 06:51 am

As of right now I think they are going to be wanting a LB if available. If QB were to drop, a team in the top half of the 2nd round could try trading up for him.

A few teams to maybe watch out for.
Indianapolis at pick 34. Would they try trading up for a QB? Packers would trade down 4 spots and gain a mid 4th round pick according to the trade charts

Chargers at pick 37. If the Chargers don't get the QB they want at the top of the 1st round perhaps they try trading up for one at the bottom of the 1st. Packers would move back 7 spots and pick up higher picks in the 4th round and 6th per the charts.

Panthers and Dolphins at picks 38,39. Similar to the Chargers they might be teams we trade back with looking for QB's. Panthers would probably get us a 4th round, 5th round and we would give up a 6th or 7th round pick back.
Dolphins may or may not be looking for a QB. If they feel Rosen isn't the guy they might look to trade up for the guy. Trading with them we would get the 39th pick, swap 2nd round picks (moving up 6 spots), get their 4th and 5th round picks.

These are just some interesting scenerios of what could happen.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 03, 2020 at 07:10 am

I think the Packers trading down to a QB needy team scenario is an unlikely one. Jordan Love is the guy that would be that target and I think he's long gone by 30. With the Dolphins being one of those teams and having #5, #19 and #26, they will just grab a QB with their own picks, instead of giving up something for a 4th round 1 choice. New England and New Orleans would both be prime candidates to grab Love at #23 & #24 respectively, if he's not gone already.

I still would like to see the Packers grab an extra day 2 pick to slide back into the early stages of round 2. I hope it works out like that. I'm always about taking value to move back. But I am not counting on them getting it done because their trading partner is looking to grab a QB.

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stockholder's picture

March 02, 2020 at 05:16 pm

I really don't want Gute trading the 6s and 7s for that reason. Watkins WR and Thomas WR, would be perfect for the slot WR. We got St.Brown, Williams and Jones late. And several guys will fall that didn't get invited to the combine.

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March 02, 2020 at 09:46 pm

"Also I could see us coming away with a TE. "

There is a need for TE help but there doesn't appear to be much in the way of talent in the TE class. I absolutely do not want them forcing a pick just to add a body. I'm bracing myself that they will roll with what they have at TE. To me that means Sternberger, Tonyan and Lewis. Maybe a UDFA find. And, of course, they do still have Jimmy Graham on the roster---although my fingers are crossed that is not for long. Not a great group but not much in the draft is going to move the needle much.

They can still add 3-4 offensive weapons by sticking to WR and RB. They can add quality guys doing it. I'd rather go that route.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 03, 2020 at 01:35 am

Daguera and Sullivan may be around in rd five.

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HankScorpio's picture

March 03, 2020 at 06:29 am

They might. Both put up decent enough combine results to show they have the athleticism to succeed. Dalton Keene is another guy that projects into round 5-6 on many draft boards.

But it is a pretty small sample size in the TE group. So I am inclined to believe they will be drafted earlier than the pundit class seems to think.

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March 03, 2020 at 08:12 am

If they find the right guy in the right spot they may add one. They may find a guy in the 4th-5th-6th round.
One intriguing guy is Stephen Sullivan. Big athletic fast guy.

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March 02, 2020 at 08:15 am

Can GB please draft football players with excellent RAS scores instead of RAS wonders who can't produce on the football field? Claypool and DPJ are workout wonders who didn't produce on the football field. But Gute likes non-productive athletic freaks from Michigan who can't play a lick so DPJ will probably be picked in the 2nd above a slew of other extremely talented WR. The phrase, "They didn't look that fast/good/talented/athletic on film" is a surefire precursor to bad outcomes.

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dobber's picture

March 02, 2020 at 09:15 am

I guess you'll have to fill us in on "didn't produce". Claypool had two productive seasons in South Bend...50 catches, 66 catches (with two other receivers who eclipsed 40 catches). Over 1000 yards last season. 9 TDs against teams not named Navy.

To pick three other big WRs who have come out: he profiles a little like Mike Evans without the wingspan, but I don't think he'll be that good. He's not Kelvin Benjamin, either, who lacked footspeed and "want-it". Much better than Devin Funchess.

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March 02, 2020 at 09:33 am

if he's a 4th or 5th rd pick, I'm all in. I just want GB to draft excellent football players not overdraft athletic freaks who are projects.

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March 02, 2020 at 12:00 pm

"if he's a 4th or 5th rd pick, ..."

Sorry...I spit my coffee all over my keyboard and needed to clean it up...

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March 02, 2020 at 05:44 pm

A bit of hyperbole perhaps, but my point is, I'm not a fan of GB drafting Claypool with a 1st thru 3rd RD pick.

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March 02, 2020 at 07:46 pm

He'll be drafted in 2nd or 3rd for sure . Not 4th.

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March 02, 2020 at 07:32 pm

Agreed - A combine is a great tool for evaluation. medicals, Interviews, being able to see prospects live against their peers is nice. Measurements, Physical and athletic, are helpful as well. The key is looking for outliers. Helpful to make sure there isn't a glaring issue that a prospect will have a hard time overcoming to the next level. You can't be SLOW in the NFL. That said you don't have to be the most athletic, tallest, heaviest, etc. The tape isn't always the best as guys from small schools, certain schemes or reliant on other players to exhibit the talent (Wr needs a QB who needs an OL).
It's a business - Agents are planting stories with Media, media is selling ads and getting clicks. People are paid to hype guys using the combine. Guys like me eat it up, get all stoked up thinking we found the answers and look towards media to check out the "new stars" lol... We are all human and so are the GMs - they get caught up in it as well. I'm just old enough to have seen it over time and have learned to temper it a bit. The Combine mmakes no difference in most, some difference in some and a big difference in a few. The tough part is correlating it to each guy,

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March 03, 2020 at 06:40 am

"Can GB please draft football players with excellent RAS scores instead of RAS wonders who can't produce on the football field?"

Sounds like something a certain spokesman for hotels.com would say. The real trick of the draft is telling the difference. Every 1 of the 32 guys making draft pick selections wishes he had the answer. None of them do.

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March 02, 2020 at 10:57 am

THE PACKERS WILL TAKE A WRS RD. 1. HERE'S WHY! The first top 5 WRs;///Lamb,Juedy,Ruggs,Jefferson,Higgins,/// will be picked off the board. The second 10 Wrs will be picked in the second rd. GB selects to late in the second to get a Top 12 WRs. It would cost to much for Gute to move up in rd 2. As of right now. Aiyuk ,Claypool, Mims, Hamler, Reagor, Pittman, Shenault, D. Jones ,V,Jefferson, C.Johnson. Have been targeted. Meaning you will not get a #1 WR unless you take him rd.1. You will get Development.

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March 02, 2020 at 11:04 am

That’s a lot of assuming about what other teams will draft. I think they take BPA with pick one or trade down.

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stockholder's picture

March 02, 2020 at 12:00 pm

If you watch other mocks. it's totally Logical. I suggested Gute would trade down like TT did earlier. The problem is ILB. Murray is a draft crush of many. There is No way Gute will be allowed to trade up in the second, if the other 10 are there. The cost will be a 2nd and third if he's lucky. But he'll miss on the first 10 -15 picks in the second. Because those picks in the Top 50 just don't happen that much.

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dobber's picture

March 03, 2020 at 09:59 am

"Because those picks in the Top 50 just don't happen that much."

That's right. They only happen once each.

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March 02, 2020 at 12:01 pm

Most WRs--rookies in general--that you pick are going to be developmental guys. There's a small handful of guys who walk into the starting lineup and are productive right away. You can't bank on hitting one of those guys. You need to expect that draft pick will likely be a part-time player at least for the first half season or more. Immediate help at WR comes more reliably from FA and internal guys taking the next step.

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March 02, 2020 at 05:03 pm

But that hasn't happened in Green Bay. Allison and Lazard broke the mode. Shepard even got the starts in the slot. We've been to desperate. I see shots worth taking.

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dobber's picture

March 03, 2020 at 07:24 am

Geronimo Allison with his 12 catches as a rookie? And Lazard played well, but it wasn't his rookie season. That was 2018. Not much "mode" breaking going on there...

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March 02, 2020 at 07:29 pm

Your forgetting how bad our number 2-5 receivers were. If we draft one rounds 1-3, I’d bet my house they come in day one and be a productive number 2.

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March 03, 2020 at 03:17 pm

I know they weren't top of the league but they weren't terrible either. They didn't have too many chances either. With that said, I completely agree that a WR or even 2 that we draft start for the vast majority of the season. I think Kumerow is gone and Lazard and EQ step it up big time as well.

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March 02, 2020 at 11:32 am

Jalen Reager is my pick because he is a great punt returner as well as fast receiver.

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March 02, 2020 at 11:49 am

I wouldn't take him over Mim's or Jefferson, but thats about it .
And due to his bad 40 time which was likely caused by him intentionally trying to bulk up I could see us snagging him in the 2nd which would IMO be a absolute steal.

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March 02, 2020 at 12:03 pm

He will not be there at #62.

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Slim11's picture

March 02, 2020 at 12:51 pm

A lot of TCU players have not played well at the next level. I wouldn’t take him any earlier than the 3rd.

If Green Bay takes a developing WR, look at Ohio State WR Bin Victor. Hand size, arm length and wingspan are impressive. He could be a steal.

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dobber's picture

March 02, 2020 at 01:49 pm

Big hands, I know you're the one...

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Slim11's picture

March 02, 2020 at 04:21 pm

It’s not just the hand size. He has the catch radius and a good 3-cone shuttle time. I just saw him run his 40...meh! Still keeping an eye on him. Right now, no earlier than the fifth round.

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Leo Van Groll's picture

March 02, 2020 at 02:23 pm

Reagor ia a a body catcher.......He's J'Mon Moore 2.0 Shenault is my guy, a bigger, faster Randall Cobb. Mimms ????? I worry about a guy that shoots up the boards after the combine.

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Fredrik87's picture

March 02, 2020 at 04:29 pm

Mim's was one of the best in college football at contested catches. The biggest concern with him was that he ran a limited route tree at Baylor, at the senior bowl he proved he could run a wide variety of routs extremely well and against quality opposition dominating, every CB there.
He was already rising but pretty much the only concern left was how he would test.
He ran 4.38 40 yard dash, a 38.5 inch vertical, a 131 inch broad , and posted the best three cone among WR's completing the drill in 6.66 seconds.
I personally have no concerns about Mims.

Shenault's was a bit slower than Cobb who ran a 4.46 at the combine.
He also has a history of injuries including a core muscle injury he is currently dealing with.
For those reasons I'm not a huge fan of him.
He has loads of potential but he is as big of a boom or bust prospect as it gets.

I don't know where you got Reagors hands being bad from, he made circus catch after circus catch because his QB was incompetent and couldn't throw on target, and he has a 42 inch vertical made some incredible contested catches, and I've never once seen him make a body catch. I'd love to get him in round 2 where he is trending in most mocks

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Handsback's picture

March 02, 2020 at 01:43 pm

I've looked at the draft and what Green Bay might/could do. We all agree their WRs are not the best. Think about this for a moment...would a rookie WR in the first round contribute much in the first two seasons?
I don't think so. Outside a Julio Jones, not many contribute right away. If that is the case...why get one early, when there will be plenty in the later rounds. I could see Gutsey doing what he did in his first draft and take three in the late rounds.

Now another RB is needed, even spoken by Gutsey during the Combine. What if Taylor or the Packer's best available RB is sitting there at 30...would he pull the trigger? A RB that could get 30% of the carries during the year and give Jones a breather and catch the ball out of the backfield. Seems to me if you want an offense difference maker...a RB may be who you go to. A playmaker on the field can be a RB as well as a WR.

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buddrow53's picture

March 02, 2020 at 04:53 pm

I agree Taylor could probably get more plays than any rookie WR. It takes too long for rookies to gain the trust of the ole QB.

Jones and Taylor in the backfield at one time could that be some pressure on their defense?
Plus what if the Pack does not sign Jones to a new contract and he goes FA route? Pack left with Taylor as #1 RB I could be happy with that.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:49 pm

They will have to move up for Taylor.

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stockholder's picture

March 03, 2020 at 01:39 pm

Arron Rodgers never had a Rookie Wrs with pure speed, a catch Radius, and could run routes. Well there are several this year. There won't be a wait with Higgins, Jefferson or mims. The bigger reason to take a WR is so Arron Jones doesn't have to be one. I'll take Swift over Taylor. The Rams were 13-3. There now 9-7 without Defense.

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Fredrik87's picture

March 02, 2020 at 05:51 pm

Rookie WR's can and do contribute in the first two seasons Keenan Allen, Odell, Cooper, AJ Green, AJ Brown, Mike Evans, and Michael Thomas all had over a thousand yards in their first year.
When you look at impact over two years there are several guy's who broke a thousand yards their 2nd season in the NFL, Jarvis, Kupp, Hopkins, Fitzgerald, Tyreek, Cooks, DJ Moore, DJ Chark, Michael Gallup, ect, ect.

Quality RB's can also be had in later rounds, see Aaron Jones, Kamara, Ekeler, Mostert, Lindsay, Arian Foster, James Starks.

I don't think we have to draft a WR in the 1st round (though I would not complain if we did) but if we didn't I'd want a DL or LB not a RB.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 03, 2020 at 01:42 am

What if Taylor is there?

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March 02, 2020 at 05:51 pm

Rookie WR's can and do contribute in the first two seasons Keenan Allen, Odell, Cooper, AJ Green, AJ Brown, Mike Evans, and Michael Thomas all had over a thousand yards in their first year.
When you look at impact over two years there are several guy's who broke a thousand yards their 2nd season in the NFL, Jarvis, Kupp, Hopkins, Fitzgerald, Tyreek, Cooks, DJ Moore, DJ Chark, Michael Gallup, ect, ect.

Quality RB's can also be had in later rounds, see Aaron Jones, Kamara, Ekeler, Mostert, Lindsay, Arian Foster, James Starks.

I don't think we have to draft a WR in the 1st round (though I would not complain if we did) but if we didn't I'd want a DL or LB not a RB.

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Stroh's picture

March 02, 2020 at 08:01 pm

I think a RB at #30 is a distinct possibility. Jones is smaller, injury prone and profiles as a James White, more than a #1 RB. I'd love Taylor or another top RB at #30. LaFleur wants a strong running game, so another quality RB is a need. Just comes down to who is available and the grades for players and positions.

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The_Justicar's picture

March 02, 2020 at 02:53 pm

While I think we may trade down I think it’s a negative in reference to losing out on the 5th year option for first rounders. I like having that

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dobber's picture

March 02, 2020 at 08:15 pm

That 5th year option might be what motivates someone to try to move up to #30...and maybe overpay just a little.

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Packman60's picture

March 02, 2020 at 07:57 pm

I think the Packers will draft either Murray or Queen if either is still on the board, which I think is highly doubtful. Failing that, they will attempt to trade down, obtain an extra pick and then draft either Mims, Jefferson, Aiyuk or possible Claypool.

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AgrippaLII's picture

March 02, 2020 at 10:17 pm

Gutekunst has a way bigger problem than finding a number two WR....He has to find a number one RT. If he doesn't land a starting RT it won't matter who the number two WR is !

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dobber's picture

March 03, 2020 at 07:26 am

Agreed, Agrippa: a really deep WR class means the Packers can wait. FA tells us a lot about what their needs would be, but at this stage RT and ILB are far greater needs.

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stockholder's picture

March 03, 2020 at 08:03 am

Gay is third rd. now. Many others too. Pettine will not trust the Defense to a 3rd rd pick. How did Burks go? A OL is the better pick. Not to mention a possible back-Up QB in the 3rd. Even a Slot Wr has been projected here. And they ran great in underwear too.

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March 03, 2020 at 09:15 am

With teams scrambling for a WR in Round 1, there may be some top caliber OTs falling to the Packers. Fortifying the O Line is imperative. Fortifying the D Line is also imperative. Kenny Clark needs a solid D Lineman next to him to help stop the run. I'd bet GB drafts either O Line, D Line or even ILB help in Round 1 before they look at a WR.

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stockholder's picture

March 03, 2020 at 10:51 am

I believe they match Vlads offer. Then draft a Ol late 3-5. Plus other options. The chance of Cleveland OT , Okwuegbunam Te, Duvernavy WRSlot, Possible Hurts Qb .are increasing.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 03, 2020 at 02:02 pm

If Bulaga walks they probably try to sign a Free agent OT, not count on a guy one hit away from a year on IR. Maybe a guy shows up at #two who can fill as a starter?

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CoachDino's picture

March 03, 2020 at 05:47 pm

I'm with ya Mr. Tundra - - Run on OT take the WR that dropped - Run on WR, take the OT that dropped. The other position that might have a few guys worthy of an Rd 1 pick is CB's. If they drop take one of them. ILB and IDL are FA mid-tier rich.

It's going to be a very interesting couple of weeks. Losing BB scares me but there is a case for it. Don't want to even think about Littleton but if we do cut BB and Graham and just sign a run-stuffer NT it might work. If they find an NT "Littleton" IMHO is a game-changer. If you spend big money at ILB there will have to be another position that drastically drops in over all payout. OT,TE, .

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Leatherhead's picture

March 03, 2020 at 09:44 am

No WR until Day 3. Run more, pass less, have faith in Lazard, MSV, and ESB and the people who scouted and drafted them, and the coaching staff that works with them.

We need help on both lines and we’re about to have big holes at ILB and TE. We have the leagues oldest nickelback. We already have a starting #2 good enough to win the division.

Next year for the WR.

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stockholder's picture

March 03, 2020 at 10:57 am

The chances are they will regress like Allison, because of speed. Next year will be worse. I would rather Gute take a RB before ILB and TE. The draft won't fill the holes like FA can.

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dobber's picture

March 03, 2020 at 12:15 pm

Allison didn't regress. He never was.

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Rudedawg67's picture

March 03, 2020 at 01:09 pm

Some of the time the best defense is a good offense. Get the best receiver you can. Don’t wait and choose a wideout based on he’s tall and can run fast. What is needed is someone who can run and get open. There is a couple of receivers in this draft that can be a Juilio Jones or Antonio Brown. Look at the Packers receiving Corp. How many run a sub 4.5? You’re not scaring any DBs if you don’t run below a sub 4.5 unless you are quick and none of our receivers that run over a 4.5 are quick. Adams is the only that posses some combination of speed and quickness. Get a first tier receiver. We spent at least the last 5 drafts on defense and really haven’t gotten the bang for our buck. Let’s see what happens when we make an investment on the offensive side of the ball. We can go out to free agent market again and easily improve the ILB spots. Just my opinion of course.

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