Mahomes won the MVP as a 2nd year player. Hardly what I call inconsistent.

Even Josh Allen and Burrow are still quite inconsistent, Josh Allen has several picks that could have been avoided last year. Justin Fields was not good. Zach Wilson had lots of inconsistency. Trevor Lawrence was awful. Young QBs are consistently inconsistent.

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Yeah, this what I am talking about.

"The guy hasn't played a single game well" he has started one game......

Love hits two receivers in the hands and both result in INTs. It happens in football. QB gets the spotlight on the field and it shines on his stat line after the game. Both INTs were very good throws. The third INT was a poor pass.

During the game, after Love done for the day, Kuhn compared Rodger's stats as a 3rd year rookie in first PS game to Love's and they were very similar.

I saw Love commanding the huddle, urgency, good decisions and feet and a good arm making many different passes...short, long, touch and thread the needle zips.

I was encouraged.

Careful Bure9620. Talking too much sense will get you in trouble with the 'fire everybody' and "Love's a bust" crowd.

I feel confident that if Aaron Rodgers goes down, Love can move the offense. He's the backup QB, not the starter and will develop more.

The thinking among some is that Love's a bust and there's got to be someone better than him. I agree it's too soon to tell. I think he will be ok. There's no reason for concern unless Rodgers is injured or retires. At that point the team will make a decision. It's entirely possible Love plays out his contract and hits the road in free agency, especially if Rodgers stays through his contract.

The Packers would be wise to draft another QB to develop during the next draft to be around. Danny Etling might prove to be that developmental person but the Ron Wolf approach was to always draft a QB and it's a smart idea.

I think BJ Baylor is the better RB…still early, but that’s from family night and 1 pre season game.

Kicking with a pulled hammy is likely to screw up a swing in all fairness. The new guy has a hell of a leg, but his accuracy has been poor over his career to date.

Because Love wasnt going against future pizza delivery guys. Kind of a big difference. You're just obsessed with hating him.

How does Love make Matt LF look bad? Matt LF seems to think he's done ok.

The option keepers are just a wrinkle to keep the defense honest when they run rpo's. If theres no threat of the qb keeping it and running it, the rpo becomes that much less effective.

O line run blocked for 141 yards (I would not call it "dismal at best") and the O had 440 total yards. O line played pretty well.

D line played well too. Heflin and the other Slayton played like it was their last game. It won't be. I am trying to think the last time I pondered about the the D line thinking "who are they going to cut?" Been a while.

Thank you......Etling plays one productive preseason 2nd half against players whom will not be on rosters and now Etling should be the backup and Jump Jordan Love......No....Just no

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When people repeatedly show you who they are it's time to believe them. Love was pressured on 4 of 24 drop backs playing against a vanilla defense with vanilla coverages. He did what he did in conditions he'll never see in a regular season game. I fully expect him to have a good game against the Saints because that's what he does, even in practice. The inaccuracy leads to inconsistency, which with a decent roster leads to 8-9 to 10-7 seasons.

I wonder if there were Packer fans 40 years ago saying "How do we know Rich Campbell is no good, he never even got to start?"

I wasn't nearly as impressed by Goodson. He does have burst through an open hole, but has zero ability to get tough yardage. The first guy that hits him ends the play.

Love looked much better at the mechanics of managing the offense, but he still seems to suffer from some of the inaccuracy he demonstrated in college. His ball placement on some throws was not good although I didn't see him sail any passes which was a previous issue. His third pick was a bad mental error as that pass should have never been thrown. I will need to see progress against New Orleans or I am going to start to worry about Love as a successor to Rodgers. Inaccuracy in the NFL means picks and few QBs survive too many turnovers.

Etling is not better than Love.

Amari Rodgers looked very good on special teams. He needs to show more progress as a WR.

I watched most of the preseason games. I saw a whole lot of backups at QB. Love looked better than most of them yet did look worse than some of the veterans at that position. Perhaps with time he will be a good backup and occasional starter. I think that he will rise to be a middle of the pack type QB in the NFL. We got who we got and my hope is that coaching will improve his play.

It is easy to judge a guy who pass through enormous drama for almost 1 and half year, knowing that most of fans expects him to be at least as BF & AR together if not better than them. He also sits one year w/o playing any game through that period (his rookie year!) and than played just 2 Q in the preseason of his second year, After that he was pushed to play game against Chiefs w/o any preparation for the game with starters (remember, AR was found positive Friday afternoon before the game in Kansas City). He was not prepared from coaches or he has the time to settle himself. Still he was able to score 1 TD on that game against KC top D and almost won the game. After all, he outplayed Mahomes, who was not on the same amount of pressure from D as he was exposed to. Half he got vs Detroit did not help him as he played with the players some of them are nor Packers any more and team around him helped him nothing, contrary just played relaxed and lazy. Still he managed to bring team to the lead after AR left him negative result on the half time.

In his year 3 (his second preseason) Jordan Love knows that everybody expects HOF type of playing from him. It is not hard to imagine what kind of pressure that brought to him before the game. Does not matter how 23 old guy is confident in himself when he was able to compare his and HOF QB posture and level of playing in TC this year. He is aware that he has a lot to learn yet to be on that level. And he tried. He tried hard. I assume Tom Clements tried to calm him down, but I do believe it is not possible in the situation. He has the talent - you can see it from his good plays. You can see that he can do all the throws, but he needs to be calm and he was put in the situation he can not be. That is why all those missed throws, short or to high, or errant or not at the exact spot.

I do not know if he will finally find his calmness, I think nobody can be sure in that, but let give him a chance, true chance to show us if he can. You can not judge the player after 2 hours of football, basically just one our on the top level.

Who would you want as back up QB, on this Packers team, if you had to choose a back up QB from any team in the NFC North? I'll take Love, every time! He has only played just a handful of snaps, in the regular season, and one full game against KC, and haters want him gone. Face it, Love is our QB 2 and I doubt Gute will trade him, now or ever, especially with Rodgers being so close to retiring.

AR really needs to take Love under his wing. Make the trip down to South America together. Drink some tea. Learn some Love love. Expand the mind. Develop a bit more calm Zen in the pocket. Start collecting MVPs in a few years. He’s young and has good tools. He is progressing.

Had he been thrust into a starting roll when drafted, he’d probably be out of the league by now. But he landed in a perfect spot to age and mature as a QB. I’m betting that he’ll be in the top half of QB’s in the league when he finally takes the reigns.

It's unreasonable to expect consistency from any QB who does not have a chance to consistently play. Love still needs the game to "slow down" for him. That will not happen for him unless and until he becomes a starting QB, whether in Green Bay or somewhere else.

Even Aaron Rodgers did not feel that the game had "slowed down" for him until the 2010 season. His third season as the Packers starting QB. Yes, there is the possibility that Love will never be an effective starting QB but there is also the possibility that he will be an effective starting QB in the NFL. But in fairness to him we won't know that until he starts for several games at least and maybe not until he has played 2 seasons or more as the starting QB.

First preseason games are nothing more than organized chaos as many of the players in the game have never stepped on an actual NFL field before. Hopefully Love and the rest of the team will look better over the next 2 preseason games. Thanks, Since '61

I think Engabare , excuse the spelling, is going to be a pleasant surprise at edge.

Let's look at Love in the role of Denzel Washington in the Equalizer and assess what he can do to outplay the other teams. What you cannot do is bring Rodgers into this for any reason, and especially for comparison of camp or college. Rodgers does not exist in this Dojo.

Where is Love when compared to the other QBs he will play against in the regular season.

Look at the schedule and make an honest assessment based on what Love has shown you, not what you think, hope for next year or even next week.

1 Sept. 11 at Vikings Loss
2 Sept. 18 vs. Bears (SNF) Win
3 Sept. 25 at Buccaneers Loss
4 Oct. 2 vs. Patriots Win
5 Oct. 9 Giants (at London) Loss
6 Oct. 16 vs. Jets Win
7 Oct. 23 at Commanders Loss
8 Oct. 30 at Bills (SNF) Loss
9 Nov. 6 at Lions Loss
10 Now 13 vs Cowboys Win
11 Nov. 17 vs. Titans (TNF) Win
12 Nov. 27 at Eagles (SNF) Loss
13 Dec. 4 at Bears Loss
14 BYE — — —
15 Dec. 19 vs. Rams (MNF) Loss
16 Dec. 24 at Dolphins Loss
17 Jan. 1 vs. Vikings Win
18 Jan 8 vs Lions Win

I have them at 7-10, but admit there are about 2 coin flips which could get him to 9-8 and those games are the Giants in London, and against Washington, but the Jet game can be a loss coming back from London with no extra days between games, so a win in London can be negated against the Jets.

I believe a split against Division teams is not out of the realm of reality, and a sweep of them is an absolute need to make the playoffs a possibility, especially if the coin flip games don't end with Packer wins.

Is this enough to pick up the fifth year option, sure, but in order to give Love a new deal, is this enough to push Rodgers out to have Love be the starter in 2023 or 2024 because Love WILL NEED to be the season starter in 2023 to justify any new deal if the Fifth year option is selected.

How is the feeling about Love as the successor to the HOF QB run?

I don't think Love will be a road show,

OK. Have at it.

Seen a lot of QB's come and go and this guy is not NFL caliber. He telegraphs his passes, lacks speed to roll out and make people miss, makes poor decisions, the later is a killer because that's the mental side of the game. Many a QB who can make good decisions survives even though they may not have a great arm.
The ones with a great arm and poor mind pass to often to the defense.
I say he is bust o matic unless he starts to show something new.

Seen a lot of QB's come and go and this guy is not NFL caliber. He telegraphs his passes, lacks speed to roll out and make people miss, makes poor decisions, the later is a killer because that's the mental side of the game. Many a QB who can make good decisions survives even though they may not have a great arm.
The ones with a great arm and poor mind pass to often to the defense.
I say he is bust o matic unless he starts to show something new.
And please this is year 3. He's not a rookie.

One thing that I want to point out - IF one remembers - when AR was still a 2nd stringer behind #4 - everybody ranted on how poor his footwork was. BUT everyone absolutely raved about how hard he threw the ball and how accurate he was on those throw the balls through the tires drills. But also remember what the scouts said about him - and San Fran took Smith ""AFC scout: "He's a system quarterback. 3-, 5-, 7-step guy. Can't create on his own. Panics under pressure. Gets flustered easy. I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it."""" Both AR and Smith proved this scout wrong - however I am concerned that Love is not earning any accuracy marks - it is different laying a ball to a wide open guy down the field when not pressured and when the receiver can adjust. But those short throws and the missed throws to the backs. And both of those INT;s tipped or not were NOT accurate and that caused the issues. So he needs to show me a lot more. As far as the 5th option is concerned- he has not played so unlike Trubisky - I would like to see what the actual cost might be - because it might be worth a pick if he is to be traded rather than cut/released.

Major stat.=== Jordan Love is the 1st QB to start a preseason game and throw 3+ INTs since Brandon Allen did it for Jags vs Falcons 8/31/17
9:42 PM · Aug 12, 2022·Twitter Web = Josh Dubow

And he was pulled at 1/2 Time! (After everyone agreed he needed work) MY question is; does he really want to be a Packer??

This whole Jordan Love love/hate relationship is getting old.

Fact: He is very young at 23-years of age and coming into the league it was well documented he was very talented, but needed time to develop and work on many facets of the game. Even though with covid and last pre-seasons injury has limited his availability he is making progress. He is showing continued growth and development. Love could not be in a better environment sitting and watching behind Rodgers. Yes, Love has years and years yet where he can continue to grow and develop.

Fact: Yes, in this last game he showed some nervousness and wasn't as accurate as we would like to see. Every game he plays he will be more comfortable. I have to laugh at some of the posters and their negative evaluations of Love. Like none of us have had a big interview in front of a number of power executives where you wanted to do a good job and were nervous? How about having to step up and give a presentation in front of a large audience? Did you have nerves and were you anxious? Well, try doing what Love is doing at 23-years of age in front of millions of people. Where quite a few want him to fail.

I anticipate Jordan will show better in the next two pre-season games as he calms down and his confidence ratchets upwards. As some very knowledgeable posters have already said we truly won't know what we have in Jordan Love until he plays a couple of full seasons as a starter. Playing QB in the NFL takes quite a bit of time to understand the game and how to attack different defenses. I'm fully confident in Jordan and expect to see him turn into a very good QB in the NFL. Hopefully, he develops into the QB we want while with the GBP's.

I like Etling and Dexter Williams, give them more chances seems like good upside for both.It took Douglas 5 teams before he made it!

I think that Love is still growing as a QB. Some first round QB’s show promise from their first start, most do not. Like (most) everyone here I know he has a ways to go, yet only time will tell if he is above average as a starter. Right now he is the backup to a future hall of fame QB and comparisons will always fall short.

I don't know what to think of Love as our next QB either.

Looking at a QB, stats can be misleading, and I'll leave analysis of a QB's footwork or reading of progressions to knowledgeable people who closely watch a lot of film. For most fans, certainly for me, perspective and expectations are important in trying to form a judgment, and from this perspective, as as I want to love Love, I can't. Against SF he didn't look like a 1st rounder in his 3rd camp; he looked pretty ordinary.

OK, OK. Covid, limited real game experience, look at 12's numbers for two preseasons, better than last year.

But how's this for a perspective: what if Rodgers had pulled the plug last year? How would we feel about Love's readiness? I think we'd be .500 nd calling on Gute to draft another one.

Love needs real game action with an NFL starting line-up, something he has yet to do. His one start (KC last season) many of the offensive starters were out, yet the game was close. The first two series last Friday, Love played against the starting 49er D with an offense consisting of rookie RBs & WRs, a backup OL (that provided adequate pass protection/poor run blocking), and just terrible TE play. The main thing Love needs is to improve is consistent passing mechanics (feet position/leg drive) and decision making. Coaching can improve mechanics, experience "should" improve decision making. Blast away on his performance when he has a quality offensive team around him. Josh Allen is 3 years older than Love. It took two seasons as a "starting QB" for him to begin performing at an elite level. MLF, Jordan continues to learn behind a legend, but give him opportunity to run with all the big boys in at least one preseason game.

I don't think people get it.

Etling isn't some young QB who has bounced around the league as a #2 QB and the Packers scooped up a ball of potential and have the luxury of developing a #2 QB talent on our PS.

Etling is a young QB who has never made a 53 man roster at cut down, has been put on 7 other team's practice squads, and was released from all of them.

Teams that decided they didn't want to keep Etling as a PS player: Falcons, Seahawks, Jaguars, Broncos, Patriots, Vikings, British Columbia Lions, and, of course, the Packers declined to keep Etling around in favor of Kurt Benkert a year ago.. And Kurt Benkert is not playing football as of this moment.

I hope he does well in whatever he does. But all this "He looks like a real nice guy to keep on practice squad" stuff? He's desperately clinging to the NFL dream at this moment. I really do root for him, but he's been with 8 teams as a practice squad arm and nobody has felt strongly enough about him to keep him around.

He's an NFL camp arm.