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The Rise of Kyler Fackrell

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The Rise of Kyler Fackrell

Three years ago Kyler Fackrell stuck out like a sore thumb. He was a lengthy outside linebacker known for his speed off the edge but his lack of strength showed up during practice. It quickly became obvious Fackrell was a long ways away from Utah State University where he was one of the more athletic players on the field in the Mountain West Conference. 

In college, Fackrell never had a standout season. The most sacks he was able to generate was five as a sophomore and senior. An ACL injury sidelined him for his junior season, however, Fackrell bounced back with a strong fourth year earning first team all-conference. Five sacks and 15 tackles for loss proved to scouts he had potential as an NFL linebacker. 

The Green Bay Packers selected Fackrell in the third round of the 2016 NFL Draft hoping he would contribute to a pass rushing unit that already had Clay Matthews, Julius Peppers, and Nick Perry. As a rookie, though, Fackrell never made much of an impact. Like most mid-rounds picks, most of his snaps were dedicated to special teams as he finished with nine tackles and two sacks on the year.

During the offseason, the Packers chose not to re-sign Peppers after Perry’s breakout season of 11 sacks. Fackrell would get his shot in training camp entering as the primary back up, but it never quite panned out. His defensive snap count increased from 160 to 447 in his second season, however, his sack total only went up to an uninspiring total of three. 

The fans and media were just about done with the Fackrell experiment. At the time, Matthews was clearly showing his age, injuries began to plague Perry, and Green Bay did not appear to have any prospects waiting in the stable. 

Instead of letting outside criticism effect his play, Fackrell continued to hone in his craft. He didn’t want to be known as just a speed rusher and he definitely wasn’t going to go down as a bust. 

Surprisingly, newly promoted general manager Brian Gutekunst opted not to draft an edge rusher during the 2018 draft but decided to sign free agent defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson to hopefully improve their struggles of getting after the quarterback. 

While players either drafted or signed under former GM Ted Thompson were getting traded or cut, Fackrell went untouched. Perhaps Gutekunst realized how thin the team was at edge rusher or maybe he saw something in Fackrell that led him to think he might take a third-year jump. 

Whatever it was, there was no way he could have predicted what happened next. Through the first three weeks of the 2018 season, Fackrell continued to see only a handful of snaps but in the Packers week four game against the Buffalo Bills he had his most impressive performance to date.

In 26 snaps on defense, Fackrell racked up three sacks in a breakout performance that matched his previous season-high. 

As a disappointing 2018 season wore on, Fackrell progressed into one of it’s few bright spots. Perry only played nine games before landing on injured reserve with a knee injury and Fackrell subsequently started the final seven games in his place. He finished with a team-leading 10.5 sacks earning the role as Green Bay’s top pass rusher. And honestly, it wasn’t close.

The former third-round pick who was believed to be a bust now possessed an arsenal of pass rush moves and could even hold his own against the run. The Packers enter the 2019 offseason facing difficult decisions on whether to resign Matthews and determine if Perry is worth the $60 million-dollar contract he signed in 2017. However, at least they know they have a promising pass rusher who is still coming into his own at age 27. 

 

 

Brandon Carwile is a Packers writer who also enjoys watching and breaking down film. Follow him on Twitter @PackerScribe.

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Skip greenBayless's picture

Congrats to you Taryn. You were the only person who remotely stuck in this guy's corner for as long as you did. It finally paid off this season.

Dash

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Actually she ditched him before he broke out.

Not that I blame her.

Tarynfor12's picture

More dismayed and felt it wrong to pound the desk if the play wasn't being given or made when assigned. Though he'll need another and better over all season for me to consider any applause be taken. This reminds me of another I had strong support for against the masses here at CHTV, one James Starks and my draft selection for the 6th rounder was...He's the sleeper pick the Packers will benefit greatly.

Unlike my pounding the desk against Perry and everyone who said I was wrong, I had more tape to continue and ultimately have been proven correct and being proven correct made it worth every battle I endured from his misguide,disillusioned supporters from since before and the day of his draft and everyday since.

Chris Vachio's picture

Wait...people were actually arguing FOR Perry?

Tarynfor12's picture

That's actually a mild way to express how they believed he was worth being drafted and PAID!!!

ScaryGary's picture

i always said fackrell had something left in the tank. it was nice to see desmond king fumble that return, made me feel a little better about passing on him 5 times. i hate to poach a second player from the seachickens, but give me earl thomas

Jonathan Spader's picture

Isn't something left in the tank what you say about people in their mid 30s? Not the way you talk about someone in their 3rd year in the NFL? Have I been missing that phrase this whole time? I feel so foolish!
~~channelling my inner Leotis~~

Bearmeat's picture

Yeah, Taryn was right about Fackrell not being a bust. But while she did pound the table for Fackrell to be signed and did stay in his corner longer than anyone else, she also gave up and jumped off the bandwagon 2 years ago.

Also, while Fackrell got 10.5 sacks, I'd challenge you to go look at the number of QB hits and pressures he got. Hint: They're not high.

He's not a starting caliber OLB. He's just the least shitty OLB we've had since Peppers left town. He's a 3rd piece. A nice backup.

Nothing more.

Skip greenBayless's picture

Bearmeat, why is everyone challenging me? Can we just give props to a woman here without an asterick next to her prediction. She hit this one out of the park. It's a major win for her and she needs to be called out for it because none of you will that's for sure. I'm quite sure based on my own experience that Taryn didn't give up on the guy more than she was simply tired of getting hammered by the relentless herd who saw a drop of blood and pounced. I like the underdog story. It's why I like Boyle and this Fackrell. The cinderella story that comes true. How does one not like that? Sam Shields is another. Rooting like hell for him after what he went thru.

Dash

Bearmeat's picture

lol. Ok. Revise facts in whatever way makes you feel better... just know that it doesn't change history.

Skip greenBayless's picture

All I know is history will say Kyler Fackrell with 10.5 sacks in 2018. Those facts can't be revised or diminished.

Dash

Bearmeat's picture

Yeah. And history also says that Nick Perry had 12 sacks in 2015 - an abnormally high amount of sacks out of a limited number of QB hits.

How did that work out for him in 2016? 2017? 2018?

Jonathan Spader's picture

It worked out FANTASTIC for Perry Bearbones. He got paid well over 20 mil in those 3 years. Didn't work out so well for the Packers.

Bearmeat's picture

Ugh. You're right. Correction:

"Counting on Perry to get 12 sacks on only 22 QB hits again was foolish by Ted. He was never an OLB1. He was an OLB2 who is hurt far too much."

The application of Perry's warning to the Fackrell truthers is clear: Don't be fooled by appearances. Fackrell is nothing more than a decent backup.

Tarynfor12's picture

When I had Fackrell as the pick for the Packers is was based on helping the team at OLB because of the play of the two already starting and not as an expected HOF or Pro Bowler.

The play when healthy of Perry was sub par, though stats at times can induce some to be misguided and were, he was nothing more than the garbage time player picking up the valueless stat that should have been getting earlier in games when it mattered...aka..Mark Gastinieu( spell check).

Fackrell was not getting the play time over the other infamous two as hair flipping had become more of a Fabio highlight and finding Perry rivaled Where's Waldo.

Fackrell had a ' rise ' in his play and his stats are as questionable as the others but at least his play, especially by myself, will never be extolled to the level of ' RISEN ' as like with another collecting millions for a job poorly done by him and the fools who believed he was a real deal....for 6 long pain staking years and likely to continue,less the FO shows some guts, eh Gute.
Thanks for the shout out anyways Rash .

Gort's picture

Taryn, your comment about stats is exactly why I have often said
lies, damn lies, and statistics.

Skip greenBayless's picture

Taryn, for the first time and probably only time I'll take "Rash" as a compliment.lol You deserve it for your support for Fackrell while everyone else gave up. Since you have a track record now with Fackrell and obviously a pretty good ability to see into the future like I do, I would be interested if you see the next Kyler Fackrell on this team? Anyone on the team currently under the radar with barely a pulse that you see busting out?

Thank you,

Dash

dobber's picture

Fackrell:
3 sacks v. Buffalo...
3 sacks v. Seattle...
4.5 sacks in 14 other games.

He had a couple big games against two teams with weak OTs, but he's got more developin' to do.

Skip greenBayless's picture

He's 27 and still growing. Jethro was like that when I dated Ellie May back in the 60's.

Dash

Jonathan Spader's picture

TJ Watt:

3 sacks v. Cleaveland...
3 sacks v. Atlanta...
2 sacks v. Jacksonville...
5 sacks in 13 other games.

He had a couple of big games against 3 teams with weak OT's but he's got more devlopin' to do.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

12 sacks on 22 QB hits is actually a reasonable expectation. I actually skimmed some sack/QB hit stats and it appeared to me like something between 30% to 50% was very common (so not a rigorous analysis). Mack had 12.5 sacks on 18 QB hits this season: that is a high percentage, but he is a player who can get his sacks with speed and also power. A reasonable expectation for a guy who is primarily a bull-rusher I'd guess is on the lower end of the scale, 30% or 40%.

Skip greenBayless's picture

"12 sacks on 22 QB hits is actually a reasonable expectation."

Many agree with you but don't tell that to Bearmeat.

Dash

Bearmeat's picture

Rolls eyes.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Fackrell actually had 10.5 sacks on just 12 QB hits. That probably won't happen again.

Coldworld's picture

I wasn’t a Fackrell fan. I make no claim that I saw his sack total this season as being remotely likely.

Looking as plays, his problem has always been a lack of functional strength. He has some suddenness it is true. As a rusher, it seemed to me that he can beat slower or weaker tackles. I also think he was used more effectively this season—he played more, which obviously gave more opportunities, and within that was more often allowed to do what he does well. I think Pettine played a role in this.

Part of the reason, other than depth is that he can cover better than his peers. I see him as a continuing part of our rotation after this season. I do not see him as starting caliber, however, unless he can become stronger and add more dimension. I do think he benefits from the presence of Clarke and Daniels power up the middle more than most.

So I am happy that, in a dark season, an unexpected OLB 3 at least emerged who has ongoing value if used appropriately. Now we had better go and find OLB one and two and hope that Donnerson does develop and we can find another prospect as well behind them.

dobber's picture

He was used differently this season: more in space. He can make plays in space. He's finally playing/processing faster and you can see it on the field. Whether it's maturity and experience, or a change in DC/scheme is up for debate.

He still struggles setting the edge, though, and lacks the kind of take-on strength that you'd like to see in a traditional 3-4 OLB. He's always going to be kind of a 3-4/4-3 tweener as an OLB.

Coldworld's picture

Agreed. That is why his jump in performance is of value, but not the emergence of a starter. He is a potentially valuable piece but not a cornerstone.

The TKstinator's picture

This comment is strictly for those of us like myself who are on iPads. It’s really getting narrow in here.
For all other computational forms, please disregard.

fthisJack's picture

C****st, you sound like her agent. get off her bandwagon.

EddieLeeIvory's picture

Meanwhile in New England, Josh McDaniels offense is on display against the top-10 Defense of the Chargers.
2 drives, 2 touchdowns. Clockwork.

Nick Perry's picture

Make it 3 for 3 against a Top 10 defense.
3 drives, 3 touchdowns. Clockwork AND a Clinic.

Bure9620's picture

4 and counting........

Nick Perry's picture

Sigh... This weekend games really haven't been "The best weekend of football all year" have they Lare?

I was hoping for some good games but so far not so much...

Bearmeat's picture

I could care less how good the Pats look, other than the fact that I intensely dislike them.

And I am relieved that McDaniels did not get the job. Moving on.

SterlingSharpe's picture

Why? U don't think McDaniels could do similar great things with Rodgers & Company?

Or you want a head coach who is warm & fuzzy?

U can have the nice guy, gimme Belichick Jr and a bunch of Super Bowls.

Jonathan Spader's picture

In what world in there a BB junior SS? McDaniels had his opportunity to show he was that and failed. It's been 9 years maybe he's come closer but the BB coaching tree is not impressive. Reid's has been a hell of a lot more successful. The further away you get from the hooded one the more of his power and influence you lose.

Qoojo's picture

What makes you think any/all of the offensive success in NE is attributable to McDaniels? It's probably more about having a great head coach + HoF QB.

Jared's picture

You won’t get a couple of SB’s with McDaniels unless you’re speaking of the Patriots. He’s the next man up in NE. He was curious to see what GB had to offer and when he found out that he wouldn’t get personal control he’s back in NE & not interested in going anywhere else ie., Indianapolis Coltss.

Packers0808's picture

You personally talk to him to know those inside workings?

croatpackfan's picture

Historia est Magistra Vitae!

Coldworld's picture

There is a difference between being an OC and a HC. I also note that NE hasn’t suddenly changed since his arrival. While he is a good OC, BB might have something to do with that.

That said, my concern with McD is not with his coaching prowess but with his performance in Denver, which was an excrabke display of man management and egotism. How does his NE time demonstrate that this man has what it takes to be the top man? Age? Not everything is experience: a lot is temperament and personality. In his case, having BB, as strong a leader in terms of personality as there is in the NFL, as his boss might well be the key to unlocking McD.

I was not against McD, just believed there were a slew of different questions that he would need to answer. Since I have little faith in Murphy or Ball (in this context), who knows whether the eventual decision was rational let alone right. That though does not mean McD was really an appropriate candidate on merit either.

dobber's picture

"which was an excrabke display of man management and egotism"

I knew a Bob Excrabke. He made excellent displays...mostly in watercolors in duct tape, though.

Coldworld's picture

Was going to edit my typonese, but that would leave you hanging ...

fthisJack's picture

best game planning I have seen from NE in a long time but I wouldn't bet on them this weekend. Chiefs will send them home crying to mama.

Bure9620's picture

Fackrell played well, one of the few bright spots this year. I would be shocked if Dee Ford is not resigned but if he moves to FA, it would be worth even overpaying slightly for him. Also draft an Edge player, I like Montez Sweat, I doubt Josh Allen is available at 12. Fackrell, a 1st rounder and Dee Ford would be a solid pass rushing EDGE rotation.

Skip greenBayless's picture

Bure, I agree. Dee Ford would be an excellent compliment to the rising star Kyler Fackrell. Two rising stars at OLB would be a huge win for Pettine.

Dash

dblbogey's picture

Fackrell a rising star? That's funny.

Bure9620's picture

He could be....we will see what he follows up this year with.

Coldworld's picture

At 27 he should be risen in terms of physical development. As noted, my belief is that he became a regular player, but not a starter. We need 2 multidimensional threats this year at OLB to add to Fackrell. FA, draft, any method, doesn’t matter.

fthisJack's picture

Dee Ford isn't going anywhere.

Skip greenBayless's picture

Eddie, please show a little common courtesy and respect to these writers here who I am sure put in lots of time and are not getting paid. The subject is Kyler Fackrell not Josh McDaniels. I get you hate the LaFleur hiring as much as I do and if I had my choice I would have chosen McDaniels out of who they wanted but it's water under the bridge now. Now let's get back to the Fack!! Great article Brandon Carwile.

Dash

Brandon Carwile's picture

Thank you

Nick Perry's picture

Sorry Brandon....

Bearmeat's picture

Don't apologize. You didn't do anything wrong. Fackrell has improved but he is no great shakes.

Skip greenBayless's picture

"Don't apologize. You didn't do anything wrong. Fackrell has improved but he is no great shakes."

Wow Bearmeat, you really are on another planet aren't you. Aren't you some type of professor or something at a college? Just shows how bad the education system is these days. It also proves you and others don't even read what other people are saying. All focused on yourself. Nick Perry was apologizing to the writer for invading his article on Fackrell by not even commenting on what he wrote but instead selfishly using his space to talk about something unrelated meaning Josh McDaniels and this game. Nick Perry did the right thing I'll give him that. You on the other hand look like an absolute boob for saying "Don't apologize". Wow!! Talk about heartless Bearmeat. I hope you learned a good lesson. I expect you'll be doing an apology of your own to this young writer you totally demeaned. What bothers me most is people think I'm the bad guy here?

Dash

Bearmeat's picture

Dash,

I'm not going to engage with you further on either point. You're wrong about Fackrell and it will be proven in the future. You're also wrong to criticize another poster for momentarily changing the thread. That is half of what blogs are about.

Skip greenBayless's picture

I am also not going to engage you further or anyone else because that's what people here want me to do. I figured you would be a man with integrity like Nick Perry but I guess you showed your true colors. Carry on talking about the Patriots. I am sure the young writer appreciates it.

Dash

jeremyjjbrown's picture

Dash, You have redirected dozens of threads to other topics yourself.

Not that I care about that. But it's really bizarre seeing you call out others in that regard.

Skip greenBayless's picture

Jeremy, I might be wrong it seems like this is his first article so I wanted people to focus on him and his work vs discussing the game on his space. Just a respect thing. I wish him well. I thought he did a great job on talking about Kyler Fackrell.

Dash

Gort's picture

So, the wedding is off. That was quick - never even got my invitation.

Coach JV's picture

Hmmm.... "Wow Bearmeat, you really are on another planet aren't you. Aren't you some type of professor or something at a college? Just shows how bad the education system is these days. It also proves you and others don't even read what other people are saying."

So, you insult a man, a profession, a system, and a lot of people on this board, and you wonder why people think you're the bad guy??? Seriously???

All about them??? "What bothers me most is people think I'm the bad guy here?" Who's that about? Those of us who are tired of your shit?

Take your ball and go home dude. No one wants to play with you.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

I have no problem with comments that are not about the topic of the article.

Does it seem like the refs don't like the Saints?

Coach JV's picture

For our pick's sake, I sure hope the refs hate the Saint's today... hehehehe

Rebecca's picture

I agree and try to ignore him. If we could all agree to never ever engage with him we can have a football discussion. Otherwise, “Bye Bye”

dblbogey's picture

That's funny. Dash of all people requesting posters to show some common courtesy.

Coldworld's picture

Dash’s off season seems to have taken a nose dive in recent weeks. Used to enjoy his input. Seems to be coming from a bad place recently. Hope things brighten for you Mr. Riprock

fthisJack's picture

Hiring LaFleur got him off his game.

Handsback's picture

Fackmans first season wasn't what he wanted. Second was better, nobody threw him down with one arm, but still lacking.
This year he's gotten after the QB and moving players out of the way.....I guess it took three years to add muscle to his frame.

He's a keeper and congrats to those who thought he could do it!

Bearmeat's picture

He's also already 27 and has only hit the QB 24 times all year - meaning almost a 50% sack rate. Counting on statistical reversion is smart in this case.

He's a backup. And better than he was. But still a backup. The Packers would be FOOLISH in the extreme to count on someone getting stronger/better from 27 to 28. He is not a starter.

Edit - the link below isn't getting through the CHTV system for some reason, so I split it up.

https://www

.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FackKy00.htm

jeremyjjbrown's picture

I wish I had time to do a comparison between Fackrell's big year under Pettine and Aaron Maybin's. It feels to me like there would be a lot of similarities.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Aaron Maybin 2011 stats - 13 games played, 0 Starts, 6 sacks, 4 forced fumbles, 10 solo tackles, 2 assists, 3 tackles for a loss, 8 QB hits. Approximate Value 2.

Kyle Fackrel 2018 stats - 16 games played, 7 Starts, 10.5 sacks, 0 forced fumbles, 29 solo tackles, 13 assists, 12 tackles for a loss, 12 QB hits. Approximate Value 5.

Stats were gathered from pro football reference.

Skip greenBayless's picture

OMG, thanks Spader. It's not even close. Fackrell is on a course for the Pro Bowl when you compare him to Maybin. Bearmeat will be "Bearbones" ( I like that one by the way) when he sees these numbers. My guess is Bearmeat will not respond to his Spader.

Dash

Jonathan Spader's picture

Nice one Dash *braces for the downvotes* lol

jeremyjjbrown's picture

I meant in terms of seeing the film.

But numbers are interesting too.

fthisJack's picture

I have to agree that Fack had a good season but I still have reservations about him based on the fact that 6 of those sacks came in 2 games. I want to see him get to the QB consistently before I start anointing him as a solid starter.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Perry had a 1 year wonder and hasn't been healthy since. Fackrel has remained healthy and Pettine turned that into production. I'm still a skeptic and would like to see Fackrel do it for another season. I'm hoping the Packers draft more pass rushers in a pass rushing rich draft class and we won't need to rely on Fackrel but that he continues to be a valuable rotational piece. What I don't want is another overpay like the Packers did with Nick Perry.

Skip greenBayless's picture

Agree Spader. No more overpaying for garbage older players past their prime. If you just go by history the odds say the more than likely Fackrell will simply continue to progress or get better for at least another year or two. I have no reservations that Fackrell is some one year wonder. He finally got some added playing time, some confidence and he finally took off. This is what true real momentum looks like. Perry and Matthews are the opposites..Nomentum. Sorry but there's no other word to use to describe those two.

Dash

Jonathan Spader's picture

Dash,

You're not quite agreeing with me but I appreciate the sentiment. Perry was paid after his 4th year. He had been paid considerable money as a 1st round pick but was cheap when you consider how elite pass rushers are paid. He was paid based off of projection of his 1 year of production in a 4 year span. Even in his double digit sack year he was wearing a club for part of the year.

What I'm saying is with Fackrel I can't separate if his success is due to him elevating his game or Pettine replacing Capers as the DC for the Packers. You talk about older players you do realize how old Fackrel is right? He was old as a rookie... he'll be 28 in November. He could have another 4 good years but if it's based off of athleticism and not scheme than he could easily hit a cliff in just a few years. That makes me VERY wary of the Packers signing him to any sort of expensive contract.

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Perry is a one-year wonder in the sense he only had one really good full year. It just is untrue if the phrase is meant to connote a player who had a fluke year and otherwise has stunk.

Hank Scorpio (and I) have posted Perry's per-snap stats so many times we should probably just conclude we can't change this narrative. Per snap, any year Perry played, Perry's sack rate has been top notch. He isn't a guy who had a fluke year. He just can't stay healthy long enough to accumulate nice looking season stats often.

2018 really is the first year he looked bad all season. I think he played with an injury this season, myself. And that, of course, is the problem with him: injured all the time. We will see what happens.

Jonathan Spader's picture

TGR the fluke was that Perry was healthy only 1 year.... injured all the time is why I have a problem with Perry's contract not Perry's contributions when he is on the field. I HATE the signing bonus and guaranteed money on a proven injury plagued player.

Why can't good health be a fluke?

Thegreatreynoldo's picture

Because I didn't think of that?

Coldworld's picture

MM stated Perry had played through an injury all season. I do not doubt Perry’s ability if healthy. Only the team personnel can know how severe the physical handicap was, but it is my guess that any final decision will be rooted in his physical state in 2018.

The problem for me is that Perry is so often injured. At some point, like Cobb, that becomes a key factor in any decision. What I find odd is that it is thrown at Perry but not at Cobb. They have similar histories in recent seasons.

I also caution that where a player plays hurt because the team needs him too due to lack of depth, we need to appreciate that. It doesn’t look good on paper, but the real object of criticism for that lies with the roster builders. I believe it is a real possibility that this is exactly what happened this year given the lack of any depth at his position and in the outside rush threat category generally. If so, we are way off base in our assumptions about Perry.

fthisJack's picture

Dash.....you mean like Woodson, Peppers, and Williams?

Coach JV's picture

Let's see if Fackrell can do it two years in a row, or if he's a one hit wonder like Nick Perry... Jury is still out.

Jonathan Spader's picture

Great minds Coach JV.

CAG123's picture

Skuuuuuuuuurrrt! Let’s hit the breaks please! Fackrell is a great story this offseason but we shouldn’t get this idea in our heads that he has “arrived”. He’s a rotational piece and nothing more no need to go into the offseason thinking we have an OLB spot locked up with him. They can (and should) bring Clay back and off two nice rotational pieces for next year to spell their starters in a pinch or can used in certain blitzing situations.

Old School's picture

Kyler Fackrell was the leading sacker of a defense that finished 6th in the league and 6th in percentage. So let's spend a top draft choice to improve the position.

Coldworld's picture

How many came without blitzing and were not coverage sacks? We were lousy with base rush. Credit to Pettine, but not a winning formula overall.

edp1959's picture

Everyone look through the comments on the previous blog. Sinceable, decent and calm. Now look at this one and see why it is different. Who is here?

Skip greenBayless's picture

YOU?

Coach JV's picture

And that's why we can't have nice things... (kicks rocks)

Lare's picture

Ron White was right.

Coldworld's picture

One year is not a basis for confidence that we have a starter for years. We must plan as if we do not!

Only that way will we get better in an area that is essential to overall improvement on D.

dobber's picture

If anything, recent history has taught us that the Packers roster just hasn't been deep enough over the last several years. Whether Fackrell becomes a depth piece providing (hopefully) quality snaps in relief of better players or a starter who shares time with a series of OLBs who are stronger than what we saw in 2018, there just needs to be better (or maybe just healthier) players--4 deep--at OLB (and other positions).

alforno54's picture

Never knew that some sacks were irrelevant . Maybe the networks should put more useless stats like 1st down , 2nd down, and 3rd down sacks on the bottom of the screen and which came against backup lineman. While we are at it take away Strahan's record breaker because Brett fell down at his feet. Please, nobody tell us you know these numbers because that would mean you have waaaaaay to much computer time.

CAG123's picture

Well yeah look at Vic Beasley’s 2016 season in which he lead the league (somehow) with 15.5 sacks but according to some metrics most came via coverage sack or when he was pretty much unblocked he wasn’t rated highly that year because of it.

PatrickGB's picture

Good for KF. I appreciate any improvement from any of our players. I only wish there were more.

PatrickGB's picture

double post.

Tundraboy's picture

Taryn's Boy. Glad I was wrong!

The TKstinator's picture

I hope you’re wrong another 10+ times next year!

Minniman's picture

Credit where credit is due, Kyler Fackrell put together a better year than previously.

He did look like he put a better off-season in the weights room and also looked like he was being used more appropriately to his strengths too.

I want to see another year from him before I break out the anointing oil though.

At this stage in his career I see him with similarities to Nick Perry in that they are the edge rusher that can best mid-quality opponents but not the top tackles or interior line....... looking at his highlights reel again he deserves credit for not giving up on plays as easily as in past years.

stockholder's picture

I don't like late bloomers. They screw with your thinking. I'm happy for them and the packers. But for every guy that made it. How many flopped? As I watch more leave, and make other teams. Even stand out. It doesn't make me feel better. Luck doesn't have anything to do with this. The packers don't need to sell their product. They need players that know how to win. Waiting for years to develop, robs other players of their chances. The packers need winners. Not pats on the back. Good seasons don't make you All-pro. The welcome change has to be about team now. We don't need great seasons. We need unstoppable players.

Jonathan Spader's picture

*Pats Stockholder on the back*

Packerpasty's picture

is this Cheesehead TV or the Dash Riprock show???

Rash Diprock's picture

Hopefully the kid can keep the momentum going. Obviously need all the help we can get.

Meanwhile, aside from hoping Philly could've pulled one out yesterday, I was looking at a couple mock drafts.......

bodei1newbie1's picture

we saw how many sacks he had now let's see what happens next season with fackrell i think it's was luck but let's wait and see next season

Razer's picture

Is this really a thing? Hope Fackrell has a big season and we win the Super Bowl. I dare to dream.

Doug Niemczynski's picture

I am happy for Fackerall, but I'm not sold on him.
He lacks the physical athleticism. So, I. don't trust him.

But again, congrats to him.

Go Pack Go !!

Doug Niemczynski's picture

I will pass judgment on Fackrell end of 2019.

The TKstinator's picture

Lest ye yourself be judged.

LeotisHarris's picture

You're wise not to trust him, Doug. I'm guessing other than seeing him on TV, the two of you have never met. Always listen to your gut, but remember, many of us who lack physical athleticism are trustworthy. I know it's a fine line to walk, but I have full confidence in you. God speed!

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