The Packers Should Commit to Aaron Rodgers and Keep Him As Long as They Can

The Green Bay Packers have been fortunate enough to have back-to-back Hall of Fame players at quarterback in Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers. For the last 29 seasons, the Packers have had a future Hall of Famer under center almost every game and as a result, the Pack has enjoyed a run that has included 23 winning seasons, 21 playoff berths, three Super Bowl appearances and two championships.

Hall of Fame quarterbacks don’t grow on trees. Ask any Packers fan old enough to remember the time between the retirement of Bart Starr (1971) until the arrival of Brett Favre 21 years later. In that time, the Packers went through starters like Scott Hunter, Jerry Tagge, Jim Del Gaizo, John Hadl, David Whitehurst, Lynn Dickey, Randy Wright and Don Majkowski. Some of those quarterbacks had a few good games and fewer still had some good seasons. All of them gave their all, but the Packers made the playoffs exactly twice between 1968 and 1992 and one of those seasons was the strike-shortened 1982 campaign when the league expanded the playoff field. Mediocre quarterback play was a big reason for the team’s lack of success.

According to many experts, the Packers are now at a crossroads with Rodgers. The 37-year-old franchise quarterback was disappointed when the Packers traded up to draft Jordan Love in the draft last season and is now looking for more of a long-term commitment from the team beyond the 2021 season.

The Packers have Rodgers under contract through the end of the 2023 season, but the way his contract is presently structured, they can trade him after the 2021 campaign without too much dead money being charged against the team’s cap. That would theoretically give the Packers two or three years (if they pick up the fifth-year option) to have Love start at quarterback while still under his rookie contract. This would give the Packers a lot more money to improve the team around Love.

But GM Brian Gutekunst must remember that Hall of Fame quarterbacks are rare and precious commodities. Even at 37, Rodgers hasn’t shown any signs of slowing down. Last season, he won his third NFL MVP award and enjoyed his best season since 2011. He set career highs with 48 touchdown passes and a 70.7 percent completion percentage. His quarterback rating was an impressive 121.5.

We do not know when Rodgers will start to show his age. He may never be able to match the outstanding numbers he put up in 2020 for the rest of his career. But even if Rodgers can play at 80 percent of his peek performance for the next five seasons, he would give the Packers a proven elite quarterback and their best and most reliable chance to continue to compete for championships.

We still don’t know what the Packers have in Jordan Love. He could turn out to be another outstanding quarterback or he could be a total bust. He has yet to take a snap in a preseason game, let alone a regular season game and according to most scouts, he needs time to realize his potential to become a quality NFL starter.

But the Packers do know what they have in Rodgers. They know how good he is and what kind of leadership he provides. He has taken the team to the playoffs 10 times in his 13 seasons as the starter and he was injured for one of those seasons that the team missed the postseason.

We have seen many great quarterbacks lead their teams to championships late in their careers. John Elway won two Super Bowls in his final two seasons in the NFL. Peyton Manning led the Broncos to a Super Bowl title at the age of 39 in 2015. Tom Brady just led the Buccaneers to a title at the age of 43 this season. Experienced quarterbacks may not have the mobility or the pure arm strength that they had earlier in their career, but their leadership, savvy and experience can result in championships under the right circumstances.

The Packers should be committed to Rodgers right now. That may change if Love proves himself to be an outstanding quarterback and that he’s ready to take over at the position. But first-round quarterbacks are successes only roughly half the time and until Love shows himself to be better than Rodgers, the Packers should remain committed to their future Hall of Famer until he shows he can’t get the job done anymore.

Jordan Love could be the next Aaron Rodgers, or he could be the next Jimmy Garoppolo and be traded to another team. Or he could be the next Rich Campbell and never succeed in the NFL. We don’t know yet what he’s going to be. But an elite quarterback is a rare thing and the Packers should hold on to their elite quarterback and let him lead them for as long as he is ready, willing and able to do so.

Ask any Packers fan old enough to remember the 70s and 80s. Hall of Fame quarterbacks don’t grow on trees. Green Bay went more than two decades without one from 1972-1991.  When you have one, you keep him for as long as you can and win as often as you can because you don’t know when the next one will come along. So, the Packers should do everything they can right now to commit to Aaron Rodgers and keep him happy.  

 

You can follow Gil Martin on Twitter @GilPackers

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stockholder's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:15 pm

Good Point! Good Article. Doubt they Listen.

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:16 pm

"The Green Bay Packers have been "fortunate" enough to have back-to-back Hall of Fame players at quarterback..."
Gil I think you made an understatement using the word "fortunate". It has been a GODSEND to have those two guys under center. I had to withstand all the ribbing at work year after year following Bart's retirement and live with guys like Scott Hunter, Jerry Tagge, David Whitehurst, and John Hadl who was a bench warmer and well past his prime when Dan Devine mortgaged our future to make one of the worst trades in NFL history. I have pictures of both Brett and Aaron prominently hanging in the den to remind me just what a blessing we have had.

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TarynsEyes's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:51 pm

The FO has been committed to Rodgers all the while, they just haven't been committed to winning the SB to the same level. The other question is whether Rodgers has been committed to the team to the level he could, would, should be. Surely he knows the money he gets hinders every year the increase in possibility to win another SB.

Please, don't retort with they got 'close' bs. Getting manhandled in one and self-imploding in another isn't close, but becomes a question as to the legitimacy of getting that far. As much as it is incumbent for the FO to get an SB team, it's also incumbent on the QB to do the same, and that includes his salary, if he wholeheartedly believes he can help make the team the winner he and the FO sell to the fans.

Then again, one must trust the FO to make the moves with any sacrifice from the QB, as to his salary donation for better. Perhaps this is a silent problem for Rodgers, and is at times missed within his backhanded passive-aggressive slaps.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:57 pm

To my mind the losses to end the last two seasons had at least as much to do with being horribly out-prepared and out-coached as the roster make up and front office.

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Since'61's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:08 pm

Totally correct. The defense was blown off the field in 2019 and uncompetitive.
In 2020 we were out prepared and out coached. Plus our execution at key points in the game was poor, specifically the drops by Adams and the ball security by A. Jones. Thanks, Since '61

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flackcatcher's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:42 pm

Painfully true.

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PatrickGB's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:19 pm

Yes, they did get close. There is nothing to be ashamed of for that. I think that the team has long believed that getting to the playoffs is the goal. As a fan I wish for more yet understand this philosophy. I happen to think that the drafting of Love was a couple of years too early. Now the team is in salary cap hell and we are paying the price for pre-covid thinking. I can’t blame the FO for that but do think that the drafting of Love will bite the team in the butt. Aaron Rodgers is pissed and it’s going to take a lot of feather smoothing to get him back on board in the future.

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Archie's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:27 pm

The Bills lost 4 straight Super Bowls. That is the most painful memory of all for Bills fans. So always being the hunt isn't the answer either.

The Pack has a chance to lose 4 straight NFCCG - which would be even worse than the Bills. They at least made 4 straight SUPER BOWLS.

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Minniman's picture

March 27, 2021 at 02:57 pm

"As much as it is incumbent for the FO to get an SB team, it's also incumbent on the QB to do the same"

This is the crux of the dilemma isn't it!

Looking at the recent FA roster moves, Gute seems to have positioned the whole conversation that way, hasn't he?

To my mind, the ball is firmly in Rodgers court. If he goes team friendly, he stays, if he lets his ego run wild and expect to remain one of the highest paid players, he goes........ but only for a huge haul of draft picks.......His circa 20% cap number attests this.

....... it would still suck though seeing him play on another team, but that's life!

P.S The team concessions to accommodate Rodgers accepting a home town discount are a whole other discussion. If he did agree to terms he'd almost want to be the OC!!

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TarynsEyes's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:08 pm

"P.S. The team concessions to accommodate Rodgers accepting a hometown discount are a whole other discussion. If he did agree to terms he'd almost want to be the OC!!"

Rodgers calling his own plays. Would he call the plays to win or call plays to make his statistical legacy ensured?

We know how he feels about one, and that one puts the doubt about the other.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:07 pm

The question is will the Fans commit to Winning a Super bowl, or whine about the CAP as if its their Christmas Club Savings Account?

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TarynsEyes's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:38 pm

Years and years ago I had those Xmas Club accounts, but I always knew who I was buying for, what I can buy, and who was getting the more expensive gift. Whining wasn't allowed or accepted by me, but I also knew that I had a limit to what I can do for one, more than another, while still making the more special know there were limits.

As years passed and gift giving got out of hand, I simply went with the hug and kiss, and if that wasn't enough, tough sh-t.

The FO may find themselves saying such to Rodgers, since they didn't say it to others first.

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PatrickGB's picture

March 27, 2021 at 09:39 pm

That’s a nice analogy. It’s a tad more complicated than that but still interesting.

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Minniman's picture

March 28, 2021 at 02:37 am

When you think about it, the only real slight on Rodgers during his career was getting overlooked in the draft. He was gifted the QB reigns (albeit via Favre dealing with his own demons about ageing) and at the time of signing each contract renewal was the highest paid player in the game.

Like the analogy of yours of children growing up, there are times when (as parents) we incrementally teach them about responsibilities and duties. As callous as this may sound (and apologies, it's hard in a post to succinctly convey all factors and not seem a troll) if Rodgers insists on being paid 20% of the cap, then other players will be cut, and Rodgers will run the risk of having an Alex Smith end to his career.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:33 am

After he rescued the second half of the Dallas game Favre tossed away, I would have started Rodgers in the NFC CH game. He had the mobility Favre lost and was more careful with the ball.

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blondy45's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:10 pm

Super post Minniman. In the NFL it takes 25 starting players, plus special teams, good coaching, & back ups to make a run at a Super Bowl, not just the QB. He is the trigger man on offense, but without the other 10 men doing their job he can not do it by himself. If the defense does not do their job, the QB can not take their opponent's points off the board.

The Pack has been very fortunate to have both Favre & Rodgers for so many years. With success comes a price tag. Rodger's price tag hinders the rest of the team's ability to pay the other 52 players top dollar, some yes not many though. Let us see what we have in J. Love. As my financial adviser has told me, do not put all your eggs in one basket. You must spread the wealth. It will be interesting to see if Rodgers has any ego problems this year. I hope not, but if he does, time to remove the egg from the basket before it turns rotten. One bad egg will spoil many others around it. Go Pack Go!

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Swisch's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:52 pm

If Aaron Rodgers commits to the Packers, then I think the Packers should commit to him.
It seems many fans here react in horror if I even question whether Rodgers has been as cooperative with his coaches and teammates as befits a top leader. It's as if there has never been reason to even wonder if Rodgers has been enigmatic and sly and resistant with the Packers. This misguided sensitivity boggles my mind.
I don't claim to know the answers about these inside interactions. Perhaps Rodgers has been perfect in this regard, but there have been signs that maybe he hasn't.
Rodgers has been great for the Packers and led us to many wonderful victories. I'm a big fan of his, and appreciate him greatly. I'm not going to idolize him, though; and I don't think he'd want that. It's one thing to disagree with me, another to slam me for even expressing concerns. Rodgers is big enough to handle sincere questions from caring fans who want the best for him and the team, as well as us.
The key question is where is Rodgers now. Is he all in with Coach LaFleur and his offense? Is he willing to sacrifice some of the spectacular plays downfield and the astounding statistics if it means the Packers can get a little better and go a little further in challenging for a Super Bowl?
In his greatness, Rodgers has earned the right to some say in the way the Packers do things. Ultimately, though, he has to give way to the coaches. I don't want to break Rodgers, but he needs to be able to bend, if he hasn't already. Again, I don't know.
So as a huge supporter of Rodgers I challenge him to make a commitment to his coaches and teammates that he will sacrifice for them to go all in for that Super Bowl.
If he's not happy with the Packers for any reason, perhaps a good and understandable reason, he should honestly state that he wants to go elsewhere to a place that is more conducive to him as a player and person.
If he wants to go all in for the team and the fans, though, then I'm willing to take risks with his aging and the possibility of staying with him too long.
I genuinely hope it's the latter case, and we go for it with Aaron Rodgers.

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Minniman's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:10 pm

Replied to Taryn a similar theme (but less eloquent), then read yours post Swisch - well said, I totally agree.

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Swisch's picture

March 27, 2021 at 07:55 pm

Coincidentally, Minniman, I had just read your reply to Taryn with a thumbs up.
I'm not sure whether or not I agree with you, but it seems to me you had some good thoughts to offer for consideration and conversation.
I'm not sure at what point the contract for Rodgers (at almost 20% of the salary cap) becomes too high -- but it is an important consideration.
At present, I'm willing to pay Rodgers the money agreed to in his present contract -- although it may be good if that contract was restructured to pay that money out in a different time frame.
For that kind of money, however, Rodgers better be great as a passer and as a teammate, really great. It's up for legitimate debate as to whether each fans thinks Rodgers will be great enough to justify his huge salary.
The key to me is whether the Packers think Rodgers is all in as far as his attitude.
He could make a sincere and reassuring statement to the fans, as well, if he wants to get away from his enigmatic persona, and help fans like me to be more confident in his commitment to teamwork.

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PF4L's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:20 pm

It would be nice if Rodgers could get on tv and talk to us fans with some soothing and reassuring words.

I know that i would feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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I...like you, am waiting for Rodgers to be great as a QB to justify his salary.
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Winning MVP's and setting NFL records isn't fooling anyone Aaron. Start earning your money!!
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TALK TO ME!!

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Minniman's picture

March 28, 2021 at 02:41 am

Respectfully, don't talk to me, talk to Gute and Russ!

I'm happy to hear about it in a tweet from Rapoport or someone else!

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PF4L's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:52 am

Rodgers: Hi Gute, how's it going?
Gute: Good Aaron, how's everything.
Rodgers: Not bad, another MVP, 2nd best passer rating in NFL history. a 12:1 TD/int ratio.
Gute: Yea, congratulations. I didn't see that coming.
Rodgers: You mean, that wasn't in your plans?
Gute: Something like that.
Rodgers: How's Love coming along?
Gute: Pretty good, he just earned being promoted to 2nd string in only his 2nd year.
Rodgers: You mean, cuz you cut Boyle?
Gute: Yea i guess so.
Rodgers : Is he ready to take the team over if i got hurt?
Gute, Ummm...can we talk about something else?
Rodgers: Sure, you still plan on getting rid of me after this season?
Gute: Ummm, ahhhh, can i get back to you on that?
Rodgers: Sure...when?
Gute: How about a year from now?
Rodgers: Yea, that sounds about right.

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Minniman's picture

March 28, 2021 at 01:04 pm

Ha. Ha! A great take PF4L, well done!

After the intro, I was thinking something more along the lines of:

Gute: So Aaron, we've kept one of the best left tackles in the league so that you don't end up like Joe Theismaann, and put a lot of effort into developing the other o-line positions for the same reason. We've also kept one of the best WR1's (who you clearly love) as well as one of the top 3 RB\Slot-receivers (who you are also fond of).... and he's there a lot in the flats or the checkdown to take that quick shovel pass from you when abovementioned WR1 is triple-teamed. We also screen the TE's too...... no Prima Donna's who just catch the ball on this team, we only have guys at that position who know that it's imperative to obstruct their man, so that you have more time to do what you do best.
<awkward pause/>
Gute: BTW, how's this COVID-19 pandemic thing? Did you see the news, the cap has gone down nearly $20 Million Dollars this year, and to keep this caliber of gang together for you we've had to push a LOT of money into the next 3 years........ so much actually that I don't think that we'll have enough to pay ALL of these guys that we've retained, just to keep you upright.
<awkward pause/>
Rodgers: So what about Jordan Love. Won't you just trade me after next year and pay those guys to keep them?
Gute: Did you know that since 2000 there have been 60 QB's taken in the first round and only 10 went on to be stable, multi-contract renewals, yourself included! That's a 5-in-6 failure rate! Jordan's a great kid, but we have no idea what we have in him. WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN YOU and the last thing that we want to do is see you getting pancaked because we have to cross our fingers and hope that a rookie OL, RB, WR or TE doesn't have a brain fart. Anyway, think it over and we'll talk soon, but make no mistake, your name is going up on that ring of champions here at Lambeau.

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blondy45's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:17 pm

Well stated and well thought out Swisch. I agree 100%.

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PF4L's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:15 pm

I agree Swisch.....
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Rodgers is the problem.
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If Rodgers was more of a team player, we'd get to more Super Bowls.
I couldn't agree more Swisch.
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Maybe if Rodgers is willing to bend and work with the coaches, then maybe they could salvage something from this offense and finally get to a SB.
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Kudos Swisch...you are a wise wise man.

You keep teaching, i'll continue learning!

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Gman1976's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:55 pm

No brainer. You keep riding the horse as long as he is a stud. I shake my head when I read of people saying we should trade the MVP who has out this world stats, 13-3 seasons, and takes us deep into the playoffs. Got to appreciate this Hall of Fame QB.

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:17 pm

Perfectly stated. I don't know what else he is expected to do after winning the MVP award. I keep him as long as he is healthy and as long as he wants to remain in Green Bay. The next QB, whoever that may be, will face a ridiculous level of fan scrutiny coming behind Favre and Rodgers. Thanks, Since '61

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murf7777's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:29 am

So true about scrutiny and I’d add unwarranted verbal abuse. Does Rodgers make too much? Not at all, look at what the Cowboys paid Dak and what has he even achieved? The chances Love becomes a HOF QB like Favre and Rodgers is extremely low and unfortunately for him that is the only way he will please the fan base who are irrational. Keep Rodgers as long as you can because you never know when he is going to pull off a Peyton Manning or Elway type of move to end his career.

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Bear's picture

March 27, 2021 at 12:59 pm

Nice article. The Packers as all teams do need to develop backups at all positions. They are attempting to do this at quarterback and need to. I was around when Tobin Rote was qb and understand what lack of preparing the next man up will cost a team.

To bad mouth Love is a complete lack of understanding history. The Packers have given themselves options and Love is just one of them.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:08 pm

I was around when Hundley was the QB and Kiser...

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fordguy's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:29 pm

Could you re-post that comment a few more times so I can give the deserved amount of likes.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:04 pm

I heard all the same arguments when we had Favre.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:40 pm

It is eerily similar, but minus the tractor watch

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:40 pm

It is eerily similar, but minus the tractor watch

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Bure9620's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:34 am

You did

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frankthefork's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:05 pm

Gil, I can argue and disagree as NFL football is and always will be a young man's game. But having AR12, Mr. MVP, for 2 or 3 more years would be nice.
Just think AR12 hamstrings the Packers due to cap concerns in 2021 and beyond 2022. Heck, making the playoffs is great, but in championship games AR12 is still 1-4 and that is a big issue with me.
Again, I'm happy to have AR but at what cost? So far history says it's all about AR's wallet and not the team's ability to keep or obtain quality players! For that I blame AR12 more than the GM or FO.

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:20 pm

Except that the FO and GM gave him his current contract. Russ Ball is the alleged cap guru and yet here we are.
Thanks, Since '61

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 28, 2021 at 02:40 am

The NFL is a young man's sport ...

except for QBs, Kickers, Punters, and long snappers.

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Coldworld's picture

March 28, 2021 at 07:48 am

You forgot blocking TEs

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:38 pm

Haha. Not only that, but the value of blocking TEs apparently doubles at age 37. Well, so it would appear.

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PatrickGB's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:08 pm

If the team really wanted to keep Rodgers long term then they sent to wrong signal when they drafted a QB in the first round. I understand why they did but I also understand why Rodgers might be a tad upset after all he did in support of Wisconsin sports etc. I agree that we should keep him as long as possible yet see that (for him) the writing may already be on the wall and he act’s accordingly and won’t extend his contract if it means that it’s just a way to cover his release.

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Bear's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:41 pm

At 37 Rodgers already new the writing was on the wall before Love was drafted. He’s a smart man. He knew it’s close to the time to find his replacement. If you want a quality quarterback you better draft him in the first round. I doubt Rodgers is upset he knows it’s business.

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wsn's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:17 am

Was love truly a first round prospect though? Packers took him first round and traded up, but the little I've vested into this saga isuggested there was little consensus about love being a first round pick and was considered a project. I agree with your point, Rodgers knows the deal, and will be well taken care of either by us or a new team (sf would be poetic)

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:39 am

He was slotted between #25 -# 30 pre-draft analysis and by people who actually watch the film.

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BJP's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:18 pm

The packers are already in deep with the cap in 2022. They’ve done pretty much everything they can to give Aaron every chance to win the Super Bowl next year. If Aaron gets injured for a few games next year they even have a back-up who can maybe win some games, let’s hope. Give Aaron a chance to come back and play in the playoffs. Go pack go!

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ImaPayne's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:13 am

YOur correct. Thats why I look clearly at this draft and say, Gutt has a plan and that is to figure out who we cannot keep next year and find his replacement.
This is not about the best person to help win like fans would like to beleive but its, were always looking bottom line and that means we draft replacements.
CB to kiss king goodbye. Receiver to kiss Adams goodbye. O line to replace whomever and maybe a linebacker or run stopper in the late rounds.
I say corner first then receiver

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Archie's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:32 pm

Love has 4 years left on his contract, Rodgers has 3. That works for me.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:09 pm

Not quite that simple, Archie. The Packers would need to exercise the 5th year option by May of 2023. That’s two years from now, and it’s going to involve around $20 million. If you would like to have a season to evaluate him before you commit that money, then he’s our starter in 2022. If he’s good, fine. If he’s not, at least we haven’t tied up a lot of money.

I would disagree with Gil that Manning led the Broncos to that title. I would point out that Elway accomplished it when the salary cap was in its infancy. And Brady is a statistical outlier. The smart money would bet that if Rodgers doesn’t win the Super Bowl this year, it’s not going to happen for him.

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Minniman's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:29 pm

"The smart money would bet that if Rodgers doesn’t win the Super Bowl this year, it’s not going to happen for him."

This statement should not be understated:

Rodgers and MLF (both equally responsible here) we gifted 3 turnovers in the 2nd half of that NFCCG and they returned 0 TD's - from memory 2 "3 and outs" and 1 2-drive series.

It's folly to expect that the sublime personal heroics that Rodgers can accomplish against lesser teams mid-season should be expected against deep-finalist caliber teams.

He needs a solid nucleus of players around him in the big games. Bakh's absence, and impact, from the NFCCG should also not be understated.... Rodgers wasn't running for his life, but he didn't have the fortified pockets in that game that he enjoyed throughout the year.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:10 pm

Tampa had more talent. It was obvious.

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 27, 2021 at 07:13 pm

sAnd they were better prepared and better coached. Thanks, Since '61

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CheesyTex's picture

March 27, 2021 at 08:14 pm

and their MVP caliber QB played for less than 20% of the Bucs' payroll.

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PhantomII's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:44 pm

It's called not having enough quality WR's, because ML offense is a 50/50 run pass team w/ too many slow TE's. We need 2 good fast WR's. Imagine if MVS had not stepped up big time, what a pathetic offensive showing it would have been, like 2019 NFCC against 9ers. Need serious upgrade in WR core or same results.

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blondy45's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:29 pm

Phantomll, the Pack had the NUMBER 1 offense in the NFL last year. The WR's did very well, an upgrade will help though. A QB that does not choke against Tampa Bay will help too.

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PhantomII's picture

March 27, 2021 at 10:53 pm

ML offense no matter how well most of the season goes, does not do well against elite defenses w/ fast ILB's. ML offense sets the OL too tight for elite speed on D. Need to spread everything out for this type of defense to create separation for passes. 49ers 2019 and bucs are the only real elite defenses we faced in 2 years and we were 0-4. Agree on Adams tunnel vision and he had poor numbers in the game. Most WR only caught 50% of passes. Imagine if it were 70%. Elite defenses do rattle AR. Regardless no WR's are signed for 2022, all FA. Speed helps on offense or defense.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:42 am

Stop making sense.

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canadapacker's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:36 pm

Great article and maybe I am saying it because I have said it here before. AR is not in decline and I doubt that he will be in decline soon as long as he can be protected. And unless he starts to pull a Favre or a Deshaun Watson ( I want imput into the team selection) he should be extended. I would also like to point out what I did before. We moved on from Favre for 2 reasons - 1 he was acting up - saying that he might retire and then say no he wasnt going to. 2 AR had developed and showed it in a game against Dallas that he had the tools. Now although GB was ultimately correct in moving on from Favre - it wasnt because Favre had nothing left in the tank - he did have 2 great years left including a game against NO that was lost due to an AP fumble. Another example is probably Peyton Manning - Indie moved on because they had their franchise QB who even though he was good is now out of the league due to injury and we know what Peyton did with the Denver Broncos. And back to GB - Love had pretty well a lost season last year. He did learn something but not as much as normal with the rookie camps, OTA's and preseason camp and games. So the bottom line may be to commit to extending AR for whatever it takes 4 years if possible. And if Love looks like it after year 3 do the 5th year thing. People say we got a steal with Love - I will say this - the proof is in the pudding - and right now we have seen nothing on the field - or really even in meaningful practice.

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flackcatcher's picture

March 27, 2021 at 07:01 pm

The Packers lost the NFC champ game because Favre could not grip the ball in the very cold weather vs NY Giants. It was shocking to watch him not being able to throw even a basic down and out. The TD to Driver was a wobbly pop up that the NY defender fell down on the slippery turf. That's why the Packers traded him away, along with all that crap off field, he could no longer play in cold weather.

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1977rv's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:43 pm

Agreed!

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NoNonsense's picture

March 27, 2021 at 01:46 pm

I agree that they should commit to Rodgers for the foreseeable future but does that mean paying him $45 million a year for the next 3 or 4 or 5 years?

Rodgers isn't Brady, he's not gonna leave money on the table for a stronger team around him. He wants top dollar or at least that's what he's asked for in the past. If they sign him to an extention he will want to be the highest paid QB in the league and he probably deserves it but at what point is spending 25% of the cap on 1 player not a good idea.

Rodgers is under contract for the next 3 years and they could franchise tag him for another 2 years if they wanted. So how is that not committed? Yeah they have Love waiting on the bench but until he proves he's the next Patrick Mahomes or something close to it, he can just sit and wait.

I remember when they signed Rodgers to the last extention, many people criticized Gute for it. Rodgers was coming off a couple of mediocre seasons and still had 2 years left on his contract with 2 years of possible tags.

What's different now? OK yeah he just won his 3rd MVP and yeah he's got Jordan Love waiting behind him but both Gute and Lafleur have said they are committed to Rodgers as their QB. Do they need to make a financial commitment to him just to placate him and remove doubt from the situation.

I would rather they keep the contract as it is and let it play out. I wouldn't be opposed to a restructure that frees up more money for this year, that would effectively commit them to Rodgers for at least another couple years because of the cost of the cap acceleration if hes traded or released. But tearing up his current contract for 1 paying him top dollar for the next 4 to 5 years is not in the best interests of the Green Bay Packers.

Rodgers has made what like 250 million from this team over the years, I think he will be OK financially. Nobody forced him to sign the last deal so if he wanted to be able to renegotiate the deal midway through he should have requested that before he signed the last one.

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flackcatcher's picture

March 27, 2021 at 07:06 pm

One slight correction. It was Mark Murphy who made the deal. At the time, the Packers had no GM. Ted Thompson had retired and the VP of football operations was vacant. Gute was hired a few months later.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 28, 2021 at 02:57 am

Aaron Rodgers signed his extension on August 29, 2018. Gute was in place. Ball was employed. I don't know if Murphy was the driving force or not. Here is a link to a May, 2018 article wherein Gute discusses the extension.

Note that in the absence of an extension, AR was under contract for 2018 and 2019, and they could have franchised him for 2020 and this year. Tag for non exclusive would have been $26.8M and $32.16M, but I would guess that they would have used the exclusive tag at $31.4M in 2020 and $37.68M for this year.

https://www.nfl.com/news/pack-gm-confident-aaron-rodgers-deal-coming-soo...

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flackcatcher's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:00 pm

No '61. Murphy made the deal before Gute was signed in late 2017. Yes Rodgers did sign the deal in 2018, but the restructured deal was in place and signed for Cap reasons. The strange thing is neither took responsibility till Murphy was pinned down by Jason Wilde in Murphy's presser.

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wsn's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:27 am

Trying to understand what I'm missing. I've seen this post and a few others like it regarding Rodgers cap percentage. I took a quick look at over the cap and rodgers is sixth on the list and followed directly by cousins and wentz. Seems like the great value given what we get.

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CheesyTex's picture

March 28, 2021 at 01:37 pm

Rodgers' cap of $37.5 million divided by the total cap of $182.5 million = 20.55%.

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89Chewy's picture

March 27, 2021 at 02:12 pm

I'm a Packer fan first! I love watching Aaron play but sometimes i think he has taken us as far as he can. He's 1-4 in NFC championship games and the one win came against Jay Cutler. It's time to rip off the bandaid and see what Jordan can do after this season. Not only from a financial standpoint, but it's time for a change. Fans are scared of the unknown, i get that, but the thrill of something new is fascinating too!

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:10 pm

Rodgers is 1-3 in NFC championship games, not 1-4. And you can't possibly blame him for the loss in Seattle. They had that game won, on the road, against one of the best defenses in recent memory, until two unbelievable brain farts late in the game let Seattle back in. Then in OT, GB's defense fell apart and Rodgers never got a chance to touch the ball.

I'm at a loss as to why an extension or re-structure hasn't been worked out at this point. It's not a stretch to think Rodgers has 2-3 more years of top level QB play in him. Personally, I think it would be a huge mistake to move on from him after this year.

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wsn's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:40 am

I echo you sentiment that it would be a mistake to move on from him. I keep looking for news on an extension, but doubt we'll see it. In this offense, you could probably get 4 years of quality play. I think without Rodgers elevated play, we're counting wildcard appearances and not nfc championship appearances.

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jhtobias's picture

March 27, 2021 at 02:18 pm

For those sating the jordan love pick costs them not going to the superbowl really need a big refresher .. Who would have made any difference at pick 29 or that 4th round pick would have done that come one if gute feels love is a franchise qb great. Would you rather give up 2 firsts and more to take a chance on a zack wilson or whoever. Make no mistake about this jaire had back to back int and the offense failed. Rodgers is incredible but what more is all in he takes 20 percent of the cap already. If you want to rip the front office for ignoring ilb great or defensive tackle great but the great rodgers didnot.get it done when it counted against tampa not the defense that is fact

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canadapacker's picture

March 27, 2021 at 02:38 pm

Many games come down to one play or one call. Remember the bad call cause the Rams to make into the Superbow over New Orleans. Remember the one last second braincramp that allowed Minnie to beat New Orleans - think that everybody is calling Brees a loser or is getting Payton fired? Remember the tuck rule that got Brady into his first Superbowl over the Raiders. Now recently remember AR's interception that should have been PI against Tampa and remember the soft call on 3rd down late in the game against King when AR wasnt given the ball back or the braindead play against Seattle on the onside kick. AR has not been the fault and against Tampa Bay - I blame both AR and Lafleur - all season long while we were supposedly 80% in the red zone - we seemed to rely so much on passing to Tonyon and Adams. I am looking forward to seeing Dillon pushing the pile backwards from inside the 5.

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Coldworld's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:43 pm

Yes, games can come down to one play, but just because they can doesn’t mean the Love was the difference argument is viable.

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canadapacker's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:03 pm

You are correct and unless we had inside knowledge about how good one of the receivers were going to be in the second round ahead of Dillon like Hamler or Claypool we probably would have taken somebody else - and it is unlikely that the way that Lafleur and Rodgers work that a rookie would get many targets. I wasnt arguing your point.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 28, 2021 at 03:23 am

There's no law that says GB would have taken an ILB in the first, and plenty of reason to think they wouldn't. Higgins, Claypool, Shenault, and Raekwon Davis would have helped.

Not taking Love also has other consequences. Boyle or some other low cost journeyman would be the backup. The Packers probably would not hesitate to auto convert AR's cash such that the Packers would have $10M to $14M more in salary cap space right now. That probably would be more since the FO might well have been willing to add a year or two to his deal, which would allow the ability to keep AR's cap number down in both 2021 and 2022.

Looks like they don't want to touch AR's deal so as to keep open the ability to move on to Love. Fine, but they are fence-sitting. It means no significant FA signing in 2021.

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Lphill's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:16 pm

I would like him to stay as long as he decides but I have a fee!ing this season is his last in Green Bay .

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Bear's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:50 pm

I don’t know if the Packers want to carry 17 million in dead money if they move Rodgers next year.

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frankthefork's picture

March 27, 2021 at 03:24 pm

We need to stop blaming K.King for being K.King and blowing the NFCCG with his 3 plays. Arron Jones fumbled twice - 2x. DA 17, 2 drops ..one coulda, shoulda, woulda been a TD. AR12 taking to much off the clock, or holding the ball too long looking a bigger play. Taking 3 points rather than going for it. Or the not so special teams. 46 players take the field...it's a team.
Football (soccer)is truly a team sport, and AR12 apparently... is not a team player or fails to listen to his head coach. This can explain the Love pick.
IMO, 3 more years max in GB for AR12 - Mr MVP3, at a minimum two. AR will end up somewhere else in 2023 based on coin and cap. Damn. It's been a great ride for 30 years thanks to Favre and AR12. GPG

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dpwiener's picture

March 27, 2021 at 04:05 pm

I expect Aaron Rodgers to remain with the Packers for many years to come. Gute and the rest of the front office aren't idiots. They know how rare and valuable an elite quarterback is, and Rodgers is the elite of the elite. Look at all the teams which would kill their grandmothers to get Wilson or Watson in a trade. We already have the best, and it would be insane to voluntarily move on from him.

That doesn't make the Jordan Love pick a bad decision. If they thought Love was good enough to be an NFL starter, perhaps even elite himself some day, then it made sense to grab him when they had the chance. The odds are that Aaron will be injured sometime during the next several years, and while he's out the Packers need a more-than-competent backup. Could Tim Boyle have been an adequate fill-in? Who knows? (I wish him the best in Detroit.) But now the Packers have insurance against an injury or a drastic drop-off in Aaron's play. We'll learn more about Love during the pre-season, and especially if he's thrown into some real games.

In the best case scenario, the Packers get several quality back-up years out of Love and then trade him for a high draft pick. In the worst case scenario, something happens to Aaron and Love is good enough to maintain a top level of Packers quarterback play for the next decade or so.

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egbertsouse's picture

March 27, 2021 at 05:27 pm

If they don’t trade Rodgers next year, they will have dropped the ball. Get something for him and rebuild. It’s a young man’s game. BTW where was our GOAT during the 2nd half of the championship game when they were down a score and Rodgers kept going three and out? But it was all OK, he won the MVP and that was his goal all season.

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:50 pm

So you guys sat down and had a Scotch or two amongst friends, and he personally informed you his primary goal for 2020 was to win the MVP?

My daughter is a huge fan. Next time you BFF's get together, could you get his autograph for her? Much appreciated.

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Packers0808's picture

March 27, 2021 at 06:43 pm

Rodgers is a fixture in GB and will be until he decides he is done! Love will be I bet a bust from what you read of his talents and instincts! Wouldn't be a surprise to me at all to see Love gone before Rodgers!

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flackcatcher's picture

March 27, 2021 at 07:34 pm

For those who haven't, I suggest reading TGR outstanding series on Packer signings this off season. And for those who wish to keep Rodgers beyond 2023, the Cap makes that very difficult even the best case. What Gute has done is brought back this core group (minus Lindsay) for this season, and with a possible return in 2022. After that, it over. Is it possible, only if Rodgers agrees to a massive restructuring of his contract. And even if he does agree, the Packers will be facing HUGE Cap hits in 2023 and beyond. As it is, the Packers are facing either a reload or soft rebuild in 2023, and only if the front office hits on this upcoming draft. Keeping Rodgers means either a hard rebuild, or a complete teardown depending on the Cap hits the team takes. Ball and Gute have been running the numbers for years now, they know what's coming. Better for us to face it now. But it still sucks.

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nostradanus's picture

March 27, 2021 at 08:23 pm

Keep him as long as possible, anything else is nuts

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 27, 2021 at 09:55 pm

The Packers should not only keep Rodgers for as long as possible, they should come out and state it publicly. That would eliminate much of the speculation for the next few seasons at least.

Now some will claim that the Packers have done that with the last contract they gave him but we all know that he could be traded and/or the Packers could choose to take dead money hits.

Stating that Rodgers is their guy for as long as he chooses sends a positive message to the team and the fans. It could also help in negotiating a contract extension for Rodgers and/or getting him to agree to a salary cut to open up cap space. In any case it doesn't cost the Packers anything to state their position on Rodgers unless of course it is to move on from him after 2021. Even if they do give Rodgers a "vote of confidence" they could still trade him or release him if he fails to perform or is injured. They would not be the first team to change their previously stated position on about a player.

In the end the Packers hold the cards. Rodgers is just another player (granted a highly paid player)unless and until the Packers say otherwise.

A final point on this issue; IMO the worst case scenario for the Packers in 2021 would be to lose Rodgers to a season ending injury early in the season, similar 2017, which would force them to play Love and then Love flops completely. What do the Packers do for 2022?
Do they bring Rodgers back off a serious injury? Or do move on from Rodgers and give Love another season. Or do they draft another QB with likely a high draft choice because if Love flops replacing Rodgers the Packers probably go something like 4-12 maybe 5-11 and start all over. As KI've posted before, good planning requires planning for the worst case scenario. Hopefully we never see that scenario.
Thanks, Since '61

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 28, 2021 at 03:38 am

It will be interesting to see if Mac Jones (or other fairly highly rated QB) slides to the pick 26-30 range.

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canadapacker's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:55 am

Here is hoping that everbody above us who has those QB's on the board - takes the QB's with their picks. The more that happens the better the player that falls down to 29. Right now there are 5 QB's supposedly taken before we pick according to some Mock drafts. That means that we get at least the 24th best non-QB player unless there is somebody that we might trade up for. Dont believe some mock drafts that say we really need a corner - others say an Oline man - However I would like to see somebody of the Dline - Linebacker variety.

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ImaPayne's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:09 am

Mac Jones wont go past three. He is now one of the top three QB's in the draft. Besides we got the great future arm of Love. No one has heard of him but Gutt the genious most know something no one else in football does?

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Bure9620's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:30 am

Okay, If they make such a statement or commitment to Rodgers they then really have to flip a pick for Love at that point. They did draft a QB in the first round. I don't think they ever intended to do anything with Rodgers contract at all. In addition, no team has given a QB at his age the type of guarantees you are talking about. Not Brady, or anyone.

I think Packers fans have more denial than any other fan base I have ever seen. Love is going to be QB 1. Not this year (pending injury) and maybe not next year but at some point he will be. How do I know? Because that decision has BEEN MADE people, last April. Name a QB drafted in the first round whom never starts for that team.........there are none. The Packers never intended on restructuring Rodgers. It is almost as if they had a plan all along.......Extending Rodgers now would be an admission of organizational malfeasance and Gutekunst should fired on the spot if that were the case.

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Guam's picture

March 28, 2021 at 08:55 am

No, that decision has not been made yet. That is the path the Packers HOPE will happen, but there is much yet to be determined. My apologies for being a broken record, but slightly more than half the QBs drafted in the first round have never signed a second contract with the team that drafted them (i.e. they were a bust). The Packers have never seen Love take one single snap in an NFL game yet, preseason or regular season. They can NOT have already decided to dump a HOF QB for a complete question mark. That would be organizational malfeasance.

And please don't trundle out the errant nonsense that the Packers did their homework on Love in college and already know what they have. Every other front office in the league did the same due diligence on their draftees and yet at least half still failed. As did the Packers with Brohm and Kizer in recent memory. They have to see them play at the NFL level before they truly know what they have drafted (and they still don't always get it right then as the Pack thought they could resurrect Kizer despite lots of NFL film to the contrary).

I suspect the Packers will not redo Rodgers contract in the hope that Love develops as expected and hoped for so that they can make a move at the appropriate time. But that will only happen when they have seen enough of Love at the NFL level to be confident in that decision.

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Bure9620's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:12 am

Guam, Name a QB drafted in the 1st whom NEVER plays........Yes many don't get second deals with that team but they PLAY!! The determination of a second deal is based on what? Their PLAY!

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canadapacker's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:36 am

Guam said with the team that drafted them - who drafted Josh Rosen? Where is he now - what position ? He was taken 10th overall and backing up somewhere. Where is Mariota (2nd overall) started and flopped- Ryan Tannehill ( first round by Miami) David Carr 1st overall - started and flopped. AR is good because he SAT. Mahommes developed quite nicely behind Smith who was first overall and had issues in San Fran because we was forced to PLAY. The new NFL with the rookie salary schedule should have allowed teams to develop QB's more slowly - not having to pay big dollars like they did with Sam Bradford or Titans Vince Young in the pre- rookie salary days. Love can develop - hopefully but we wont know - until we see him on the field -in other than mop up like Boyle. But he hasnt even had a chance due to Covid and you get tired about all the hype. Every team hasnt lost a game at this point in the season.

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Bure9620's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:52 am

They ALL played.....

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canadapacker's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:43 am

Ya - right - Johnny Manziel PLAYED Tim Tebow PLAYED - every team especially the desperate ones will play Mannings grandma if they thought they could win. Love will PLAY - with the Packers when? probably ( either in mop up, If AR gets sick or hurt, or eventually if he becomes the next guy ) - which hopefully will be later than sooner and will be after he is seen and shows something in practice, in preseason or running the scout team. He has not done that so Guam is correct - that decision has not been made. But if you want to believe that believe that.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:51 am

THey are hoping Rodgers stays Healthy and Love can cover some Games if #12 is side-lined. It's a hedge and if Love shows in pre-season they can always deal him for value. 2023-24 is his window.

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Guam's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:36 pm

So you dump Rodgers prematurely to get Mitch Trubisky or Blake Bortles????? Most of these QBs played because their team had no other alternative. The Packers do and his name is Rodgers. If Love EARNs the starting spot through great play, I have no problem trading or cutting Rodgers; but to just assume Love should play because they drafted him is nuts.

My armchair guess at the Packer strategy is that Gute knows the statistics on QBs better than any of us and believed he should start early seeking a replacement for Rodgers. If Love works out, great, and he can move on from Rodgers. If Love doesn't work out, he still has Rodgers and time to draft another QB. It may take more than one bite at the apple to get Rodger's successor given the failure rate of even highly drafted QBs.

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:49 am

Bure I agree that the decision has likely been made. New regimes (GM&HC0 love to get their guys on the field.
Wolf andHolmgren did it with Favre and TT and MM did it with Rodgers. Now Gute and MLF want to do it with Love. It happens in the NFL and it happens businesses and corporations in every industry every day.

Gute and MLF will be tied to Love the way Wolf and Holmgren were tied to Favre and TT/MM were tied to Rodgers. Eventually playing Love gives them at least 2-3 seasons worth of excuses for losing. After all "we're building for the future." And the beat goes on.

With Rodgers they're losing because it's Rodgers fault because he makes too much money and we don't have salary cap space to sign the FAs we need to get over the hump. They want to change that narrative before it becomes their fault for the annual playoff failures and drafting flops. It's just a ruthless business. Always has been and always will be. Thanks, Since '61

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PF4L's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:03 am

Yes.....Keep Rodgers!!

Change your plans.

Lets ask the NFL if we could redo those drafts (as if) we were keeping Rodgers and start drafting for the here and now...Yea...that's the ticket.

Ok....lets pretend the damage hasn't been done,

Lets get that toothpaste back in the tube and win a Super Bowl!

I love you guys :)

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PF4L's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:07 am

"Jordan Love could be the next Aaron Rodgers,"
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And i could be Santa Claus!!
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Don't lose that sense of humor, always keep em laughing :)

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Skeebz's picture

March 28, 2021 at 09:52 am

Ugh! They are committed! All the speculation of the Packers intentions is exhausting! It’s ok that the Packers remain flexible in their approach. They kept 3 ProBowlers and paid top $$$ for each of them. Remember they win if Bak doesn’t get hurt! They win if Greene doesn’t drop an easy INT, and they win if they’re not in man coverage at the end of the 1st half. Let’s not forget the abundance of missed defensive holding calls Tampa got away with. This team is built to win and I have no problem with their approach! Go Pack Go!

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:55 am

Redmond. The secondary has to recognize a FU call and make their own adjustments. Time out , anybody?? Panic city. Get smarter players or go the way of " Good enough Dude"

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:02 am

Rodgers is under contract for 3 more years as one of the highest paid players in the league. I wish I had that kind of commitment from my employer.

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 28, 2021 at 03:56 pm

How much revenue do you generate for your employer? Rodgers is paid because he fills stadiums and gets high TV ratings? Not to mention Jersey sales, bobble heads dolls and other memorabilia.

It’s about the $$$$. The more you can deliver, the more you’ll receive. Thanks, Since ‘61

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:04 pm

I've added a lot of efficiencies for my employer.

Anyways, I don't have a problem with Rodgers getting paid. Just the dumb idea that the Packers are not committed to him.

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ImaPayne's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:07 am

Give him a one year contract. Tell him no super bowl your outta here we got Love now and he is our guy. We'll trade you for a couple of ones and a two and rebuild with love while you, Mr Rodgers get old and tired. HA

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 28, 2021 at 03:59 pm

It will be more like you’ll win another SB with another team before Love can learn to read defenses and know where to throw ball while those 1s and 2s move onto to other teams in FA after their rookie contracts if they are any good.

Thanks, Since ‘61

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Chinnman's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:44 am

I don't know why Gutekunst is so hell-bent on getting rid of Rodgers!
If Love is a bust get rid of Gutekunst, & bring back Elliot Wolf. I haven't
liked him since he was named GM. He always thinks he's right. ( BIG EGO ) !!

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Since&#039;61's picture

March 28, 2021 at 04:02 pm

He wants his own guy. They he can tell everyone, see how smart he is at picking QBs. The problem is that his guy needs to get results. If not, it’s over for Gute,MLF and Love. Thanks, Since ‘61

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ganggreen7's picture

March 28, 2021 at 10:53 am

We all enjoy watching Rodgers play - its his contract that is the problem. Any team that is paying one player 30/40 mil is going to struggle to have money for other critical positions. For the last decade + no team has won with a 30/40 mil QB. And he has not taken any discounts to help with the cap or other signings.

I hope the team keeps its options open. If someone comes calling with a huge haul of picks/players... I would like us to have the option to consider what is best going forward.

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Stroh's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:23 am

To put it simply, the Packers are keeping their options open. Neither committing to Jordan Love or Rodgers. IMO, they'll continue to do that as long as possible. Obviously too early to commit to Love. He needed a good 2 or 3 yrs when drafted. Rodgers has 3 yrs left on his contract. They aren't likely to commit or extend a player approaching 40 yrs old either. Personally I think Rodgers has 3 quality yrs remaining, but its not my decision and I support the Packers and back the approach they are taking in this situation.

If Rodgers would play for less, as Brady has gor a long time and even Manning did in Denver, that might be what help the Packers commit to him another 3 or more years.

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dobber's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:32 am

"If Rodgers would play for less, as Brady has gor a long time and even Manning did in Denver, that might be what help the Packers commit to him another 3 or more years."

Absolutely. His value to the team--any player's value--is a balancing act of cost, ability, and production. The less he costs, the less he needs to do in comparison to a replacement to justify his sticking.

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canadapacker's picture

March 28, 2021 at 12:17 pm

Totally agree - they did not make a mistake with Favre - he did have a few good years left - but he was being a pain with his attitude and with his retire/not retire games and AR had proven himself by year 3. Now other guys have been moved before their time - such as Peyton Manning and it proved to hurt the team - Indy had to lose a whole bunch of games to get their QB and he was good but not great. Joe Montana was much in the same place as Favre except he was hurt and Young was ready to go. Montana had good years in KC except he was getting hurt a lot. Now Quarterbacks were not protected as much back then as how - which bodes well for guys like Brady and AR. Farve got pounded by New Orleans ( remember bountygate??) I hope Love shows something - but our likelihood of hitting 3 HOFer in a row are what???? Not likely but we deserved it for our big stretch of lean years.

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MTmind's picture

March 28, 2021 at 11:21 am

Has anyone noticed the dramatic two year turnaround in play from Rodgers? This coincides with MLF and a new way of coaching that, while maybe not perfect, is noticeably different than the unimaginative and predictable play calling and schemes under Mike McCarthy. Imagine the level of success that might have been possible if the FO had gotten rid of MM much sooner. Half of Rodger’s career was wasted by a terrible coach and coaching staff. If anything, he deserves the job security and money to finish out his career as a Packer on his own terms. He has earned it and deserves it.

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gpt999's picture

March 28, 2021 at 05:23 pm

AROD had to warm the bench while Favre still was at the helm. And what was the result? Another Hall of Fame QB in AROD. The same should happen with Jordan Love. To create this indecision over not committing to a 3 time MVP who just repeated this last season, is frankly puzzling on the part of GB senior leadership! As this article suggests, Hall of Fame QBs come around rarely. I hope something logical is happening in the background because, right now, GBs leadership team looks incredibly indecisive and downright silly! To not sign AROD to a longer contract and freeing up cap space to "win now", they are sending a signal to all fans that the Super Bowl is not important just as long as they fill the stands! Wake up guys!

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Dale Waterstreet's picture

March 29, 2021 at 05:41 am

How will they know Jordan Love will be any good if they keep him on the bench for 4 years? How angry will he be if they do that? Green bay drafted him in the first round they should play him or trade him.

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