The Packers are signing a wide receiver you heathens

ESPN reports Green Bay is signing Seth Roberts to their practice squad. 

From Rob

Roberts played five seasons for the Raiders before spending last year with the Ravens. He's recorded 183 receptions for 2,128 yards with 15 touchdowns in his career.

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Bure9620's picture

October 26, 2020 at 09:46 pm

Hopefully he can learn the offense quickly and fill in seamlessly.......I liked him in Oakland, could be a nice piece

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Leatherhead's picture

October 27, 2020 at 02:45 pm

No doubt he's going to make the difference for this year.

Lazard may get healthy and stay that way. Adams might stay healthy. And if either of our starters are out, we just need a guy who can catch an 8 yard out pass. He doesn't have to be making acrobatic downfield grabs. If this guy can line up and do it , great.

Our offense doesn't revolve around our #2 WR. We throw it to Adams until they take that away. We run. We throw to our TE. We pass to our backs. IF we do that stuff well, the #2 WR is a blocker or decoy or non-factor on most plays.

I think this might be a nudge to MVS. He's got to do his job or we're going to find some one who can..

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Guam's picture

October 26, 2020 at 10:02 pm

About what I thought would happen - a cheap street free agent that won't dent the SC. Hope he can help!

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tincada's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:09 am

GB in their usual bottom feeder mode. When I lived in GB there were a lot of carp in the Fox River.

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SpikeHyzer's picture

October 26, 2020 at 10:26 pm

He will serve as nothing more than motivation. He barely averages 2 catches per game for his career and last year had only 21 catches in 16 games (and the average catches per game was even worse to start this year).
He's cheap is his best trait.
MVS, by comparison, has 8 catches in the last 4 games during his slump. He had the second most snaps at WR by a wide margin yesterday, and he is doing something right as a deep threat, blocker down field, and to rub defenders in the bunch formations on routes over the middle. He was officially only credited with 2 drops and the other 2 were on Rodgers yesterday.
He'll be fine,
This guy will never play a snap.

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Stroh's picture

October 26, 2020 at 11:30 pm

MVS is doing absolutely NOTHING right, except possibly playing himself out of a job! What the hell are you watching?!

Being a one dimensional deep route runner doesn't make him a threat, unless he can actually catch them! Right now he can't even catch COVID! Which if he did might actually help the Packers, by taking him off the field. Cut bait sooner than later.

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packerbackerjim's picture

October 27, 2020 at 05:09 am

That’s a little cold, don’t you think?

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Bure9620's picture

October 27, 2020 at 05:47 am

I have not really seen growth in MVS......his drop rate is high and he is inconsistent in beating most coverages...Rodgers will look off of him more and more......MVS is in year 3.....inconsistent just is who he is now.....maybe he hits a go route here or there but that is about it......

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Rudedawg67's picture

October 27, 2020 at 04:19 pm

Bure9620

True dat. He seems to get off to fast starts and then fades quickly.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 27, 2020 at 09:22 am

I've been lambasted since this past off season when I posted that MVS would be lucky to make the team this year, particularly after the signing of Funchess. He had a very mediocre college career and has shown little to no development in his 2 1/2 years in the league. He's tall and fast.

The fact that he is currently our #2 receiver says more about the state of our receiving corps than it does about him. I can't wait for Lazard to get healthy. Other than speed, he has MVS beaten in every facet of being an NFL receiver. I'm also hoping to see Malik Taylor get more opportunities.

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stockholder's picture

October 26, 2020 at 10:45 pm

Does anybody sign more cheap guys then the packers? Did BG really get it when he passed on a WR? And now St Brown and MVS just look more the bust. So The pile increases. Another Panther. Whoopee.

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

October 27, 2020 at 05:56 am

Does anybody sign more cheap guys then the packers?

You really should pay attention to the news regarding all NFL teams. Every team signs multiple "cheap guys" every week. The NFL transaction wire and PFT are readily available online. Educate yourself.

Did BG really get it when he passed on a WR?

Please state your qualifications to be considered a legitimate General Manager critic instead of a garden variety troll.

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stockholder's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:12 am

He got an F for his draft. Maybe You really should pay attention to the experts more. And PFF.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 27, 2020 at 02:49 pm

An expert?

I was always told that an ex is a "used to be " and a spurt was a "drip under pressure".

Draft, Schmaft. 18-4 . Scoreboard.

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egbertsouse's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:31 am

I just love it when one clueless fanboy criticizes another clueless fanboy for not having the proper credentials to post on a fan site. Unless you happen to be Ron Wolf, everyone is an amateur here. If you don’t like others’ opinions, start your own site.

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JerseyAl's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:38 am

hahahahaha... 100 times this!

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HighPlainsDrifter's picture

October 27, 2020 at 01:13 pm

That's pretty funny coming from you egbert, considering all of the negative opinions you post with no facts to back them up.

The bottom line is that every team signs plenty of "cheap players". The inaccurate narrative that Green Bay is a cheap organization became tired many years ago. If someone wants to perpetuate that incorrect narrative that person should expect to called out.

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4thand10's picture

October 27, 2020 at 03:03 pm

Cant really call St Brown and MVS busts....they were late round picks with no real expectations anyway. At least from this fans perspective.

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PhantomII's picture

October 26, 2020 at 10:48 pm

Well, his highlight reel w/ the Raiders shows pretty good hands and some speed. Hopefully he brought both and a great work ethic and attitude.

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Razer's picture

October 27, 2020 at 07:36 am

Thanks for the optimism. I like your comment about 'work ethic' and 'attitude' because these will be the difference between him and most of the WRs that are currently on the roster.

I am hoping that Roberts grabs the chance to play with a stud QB and a well designed offense.

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nostradanus's picture

October 26, 2020 at 10:48 pm

Roberts reminds me of Randall Cobb, he could contribute down the stretch. This may prove to be a wise signing by Gute, let’s see what happens.

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Branden Burke's picture

October 26, 2020 at 11:36 pm

Too bad funchess opted out and GB cut a guy who is a top 2 receiver on his team right now with almost double the yards on about the same number of targets providing his qb with a rating over 120 vs 78 for MVS. Toward the end of last season I was getting tired of the lack of quality players at WR. I'm starting early this year. I don't think we want to see the stats under ML for passes to WR's not named Adams or lazzard. This isn't doing anything. Truthfully, I would rather they call j'mon Moore off the streets and throw him on the practice squad. At least he showed great ability to get open from anywhere on the field. His hands are bad, but are they really worse than MVS? I find that hard to believe.

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Bure9620's picture

October 27, 2020 at 05:49 am

Fulgham has been real good for the Eagles....

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Lphill's picture

October 27, 2020 at 12:02 am

I hear Barnes is out for the rest of the season, and activated Burgess , any word?

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dobber's picture

October 27, 2020 at 09:33 am

There's been no public word from the Packers on Barnes' injury...and only mild speculation in the media.

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OnWisconsinGoPack's picture

October 27, 2020 at 06:18 am

Roberts is serviceable and at this point, maybe better than EQ. Remember two things 1) we run a lot of 2 wr sets so we need help until Lazard comes back and 2) we need as much cap space to roll over as possible for next year

5-1 without davante for 2.5 games is pretty damn good and telling of the offense.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 27, 2020 at 06:19 am

Carolina saves $1.75M by cutting Roberts, so he is a cap casualty as Carolina is 3-4 and not going anywhere. CAR signed Robby Anderson to pair with DJ Moore, with Curtis Samuel and Pharoah Cooper as backups. The first three are pretty good and Cooper is fair, so why pay Seth Roberts $3.75M to be WR #4/5? Roberts has been signed for $4M per year twice by teams. He has never really had a good QB having played for Oakland from 2014 to 2018 (though his numbers picked up with Carr in 2017 and 2018), and with Baltimore in 2019 (Jackson as a thrower isn't that good IMO) and Bridgewater in Carolina in 2020.

Doesn't drop the ball. Has 4.41 speed and a nice 6.77 3 cone and a good 10 yard dash (1.52), all pro day not combine numbers. 6'2" and 195.

He costs nothing and seems worth a shot.

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Bure9620's picture

October 27, 2020 at 07:17 am

Agreed all good points, a savy vet. If he can be a reliable WR3 (when Lazard returns) he is well worth a shot....

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BIRDDOGUNI's picture

October 27, 2020 at 02:48 pm

Well said Tgr...

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ShooterMcGee's picture

October 27, 2020 at 07:39 am

Wide receiver has been a position of need for many years. The last receiver drafted before the 4th round was Davante in 2014. The 2020 was a historically deep draft for wr according to almost all the experts. With 10 picks, a deep draft, and a screaming need, fans like myself expected 1 to be selected. Of course I was disappointed when we did not take 1, even a flyer in the late rounds. Then I watch as our team win games with only 2 starting caliber wideouts, both of whom have missed multiple games. Somehow the offense keeps scoring with a stat line such as-Davante Adams 13 receptions, 196 yards and 2 TDs, all other WRs 2 catches, 6 yards and 1 Touchdown.
So I suppose it's best to be satisfied with wins against mediocre teams. When we play good teams with great defenses we will get blown out due to a lack of weapons. Double team Adams and stuff the run as TB did and we are in trouble.
So I am a heathen because of decrying the lack of wide receivers on this team. Isn't it glaringly obvious? A draft and develop philosophy necessitates quality drafting. The Packers have done a poor job at the wr position since 2014. Then take a look at the Chiefs, Steelers, Bucs, Cowboys etc... and it's hard not to be envious. These teams seemingly take a wr every year and hit on many of them. Tyreek Hill, Mercole Hardman, Chase Claypool, JUju Shuster, James Washington, Chris Goodwin, Mike Evans, Tyler Johnson, Michael Gallup, CD Lamb etc...etc...etc...
So yes I am a heathen for wanting a stronger WR group. Sadly it's too late to help Rodgers or here's a new nickname for 12- "1 ring Rodgers" as his talent is squandered.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 27, 2020 at 12:32 pm

"The last receiver drafted before the 4th round was Davante in 2014."

And that's really curious considering how successful they were when drafting in the first 3 rounds. Jordy, Cobb, Jennings, Davante were all 2nd round picks. J. Jones and Finley were 3rd rounders. I wonder why they stopped when they seemed to be able to hit on so many of those picks?

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 27, 2020 at 03:27 pm

By drafts devoted to DaMarious and Company. Too many whiffs on the secondary and holding on to Cobb's contract.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 27, 2020 at 03:44 pm

Cobb is on pace for 70 rec/850 yds this year. Last year he posted 55/828. With Rodgers the last two years those numbers would have been even higher. But hey, we have the alphabet brothers. Yay!

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

October 27, 2020 at 06:41 pm

With Guteys and LF's record the past 2 seasons why are any of us questioning them? This team has had so many needs and they already had a Pro Bowl WR. Why go WR high particularly when such a run on WR's this past year?

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pacman's picture

October 27, 2020 at 07:50 am

(Nagler - how much pleasure did you have in writing that headline?)

Definitely a signal that MVS and EQ are not looking good to management. Very indicative (of something!) that EQ didn't get more snaps this past Sunday.
How did they know Adams dropsies would go away? I guess that's where management earns their money. But if Roberts can just catch the simple passes while MLF schemes him open, he might be worth it. I hope Adams, Lazard (always liked him), Roberts works for this year.
But speed is an issue: packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/06/12/packers-have-nfls-slowest-skill-position-grouping/
How much more time can they give MVS?

(I wish I was in same ballpark where a few million is 'nothing')

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Guam's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:51 am

Yeah, there is no greater indictment of your performance than when management starts bringing in other guys who play your position. I think MVS, EQ, Sheppard and Taylor are all on the hot seat.

A related issue is the Packers signed Funchess to a one year, $8 million deal for 2020 and he opted out rolling that contract over into 2021. Given the difficult cap issues the Pack already have for 2021, expect Funchess to get cut and not be around next year. I don't see how the Packers get any veteran relief from the WR issue as they have no cap money to sign one now or in 2021. I think Gute will have to draft a WR in 2021.

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dobber's picture

October 27, 2020 at 09:38 am

I don't think Taylor is on the hot seat. A playable vet could get in his way, but I think the Packers are still learning what he can do. His place in the offense--given those around him--is growing, even with Adams active. Shepherd's position seems to be secure, at least as primary return man, until Tyler Ervin is able to play again. Then, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Packers try to move him back to the PS.

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Guam's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:19 am

Taylor is probably the safest of the four but I don't think any of them are secure beyond this year. They just haven't performed well enough at game time to prevent the Packers from wanting to bring in more talent.

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Fire_Gute's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:54 am

They knew Adams could catch the ball because he was absolutely ridiculous in college. He caught more passes as a redshirt sophomore than MVS did in 4 years. Jordy was the same way, you can have patience with a guy who is starting slow when you know he can play. MVS has never shown he can play week in and week out. It's not mental with MVS, he's just not good. Looks like Randy Moss, plays like actual moss. Expecting a year 2,3,4 year jump is nonsense

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 27, 2020 at 12:46 pm

Thank you! Unlike another unnamed poster on here who seems to believe what you did in college is irrelevant once you get to the pros, I believe it tells volumes. All the MVS/Davante comparisons this off season had no basis in reality.

Another comparison to take note of:
Allen Lazard: 4 years...241 receptions/26 TDs
MVS: 4 years...119 receptions/12 TDs,

Who is the better NFL receiver thus far?

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dobber's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:09 am

The Packers finally decide to start using their PS as other teams have: they've put a veteran FA with years of league service there off the street. Some teams have done this repeatedly. Minimal commitment. If there's need and he's looking good, bring him up.

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Lphill's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:22 am

Packers don’t draft receivers and inside linebackers high , not important positions.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

October 27, 2020 at 06:53 pm

Thank you!

Give me big bodies who can knock the snot out of you!

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JerseyAl's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:49 am

Just read that in 2016, he played through a double hernia all season and didn't miss a game. Despite that, his "missed tackles forced" rate was only behind Odell Beckham Jr. and he was 15th in the league in YAC. He has averaged more than 10 yards per reception every year in the league. Ravens went against form and used him as an outside receiver, outside of that year, he's always played in the slot.

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tincada's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:16 am

So what, 2016 was uh... 2016

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Bearmeat's picture

October 27, 2020 at 09:16 am

B-A-R-F.

PLEASE tell me this isn't the "move" we've heard about, Gute. A guy that's been cut 4 times, eh? I'm sure he's a real diamond in the rough!

Your lack of action getting playmakers for an aged HOF QB is a borderline fireable offense. Lazard is a good 3. Fuchess = older Lazard. MVS sucks. EQ can't run the right routes when he's (rarely) healthy. Shepherd isn't an NFL caliber player. Taylor is JAG or worse...

This is borderline the WORST WR group in the NFL and it absolutely has hurt the offense. Scheme all you want, but at some point, you're going to have to beat the man across from you.

We have 2 guys on offense who can do that with the ball in their hands.

Not. Good. Enough. BARF

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Guam's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:21 am

Tell us how you really feel Bearmeat!!!! :)

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Bearmeat's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:28 am

I've been screaming for a WR for two bloody years.

Tired of it. Get off my lawn. ;)

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October 27, 2020 at 12:47 pm

Like you, I’ve been saying this for 2 years also, just to be ridiculed on this site. I’ve been thinking I’ve been going mad. It’s obvious, but everyone keeps telling me how great our receivers will be when they get more reps, trust, etc. or they don’t need talent at the position because Rodgers and LaFleur will make them great anyway. Or my new favorite( all those Nagler sayings by the way). First year receivers aren’t any good anyway. There are at least 6 rookie receivers it up as we speak. Love this team, always optimistic but cmon people, A little realism on this issue would be nice for a change

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wsn's picture

October 27, 2020 at 03:39 pm

I feel similar. Agree that 12 and MLF do increase talent level of those around them, but I sure do find myself wondering what if we had a legit #2. This team would be scary? Still hoping they find a way to get Rodgers a 2nd Super Bowl MVP

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Nate-1980's picture

October 27, 2020 at 01:24 pm

Couldn’t agree more bearmeat, gute shops at the dollar store once again.. When we play a good team in the playoffs and can’t move the ball on offense, there’s always next year..Judging by what Nagler has said in the past and this headline, he looks down on the fan base and feels he’s superior.. I must be missing something, because I just don’t see it..

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Minniman's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:00 pm

I respectfully don’t agree with you re Gute exclusively shopping in the dollar stores.

He rebuilt the OLB\Pass rush via top dollar FA and draft capital.

I think it’s more a case of him trying to keep a war chest to retain players.

Per OTC and Sportrac the Packers are sitting on about $7M in cap space this year.

Next year is REALLY vague, with either a $175M or $190M cap the best the Packers have is about $15M (depending on which of these it turns out to be).

Gute is 100% trying to carry over cap space for next year

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Minniman's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:00 pm

I respectfully don’t agree with you re Gute exclusively shopping in the dollar stores.

He rebuilt the OLB\Pass rush via top dollar FA and draft capital.

I think it’s more a case of him trying to keep a war chest to retain players.

Per OTC and Sportrac the Packers are sitting on about $7M in cap space this year.

Next year is REALLY vague, with either a $175M or $190M cap the best the Packers have is about $15M (depending on which of these it turns out to be).

Gute is 100% trying to carry over cap space for next year

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Leatherhead's picture

October 27, 2020 at 07:53 pm

We’re scoring 35+ every game that we protect Rodgers.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:34 pm

LH,

I'm not going to go 10 rounds with you. But I will say this: From 2009-2014, Rodgers had at least 3 WRs that could uncover quickly vs any coverage. On any given play, one of them was most likely immediately open. That was how the Packers beat pressure most often.

You can say until you're blue in the face that we've moving towards a RB/TE offense all you want. But that doesn't make us a smash-mouth offense. We are not the Titans.

Ergo, the best remaining way for us to beat pressure is for a secondary weapon to be able to get open asap on a hot read. Good defenses are going to somewhat mitigate Adams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8iBIV__Yo

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Leatherhead's picture

October 28, 2020 at 11:32 am

And why does that “secondary weapon” have to be a super duper WR? Why can’t it be the RB, or the TE?

And why is having some special #2 guy “the best way to beat pressure”? Why is it better than having a TE or RB be the hot guy?

And why does an offense that uses TEs and RBs have to be “smash mouth”? Can’t we use motion and misdirection and the short passing game? Haven’t we been scoring quite a bit that way?

You’re making a lot of assertions here and I don’t think some of them bear close scrutiny.. And then there is the indisputable fact that we’re 18-4 , and scoring over 35 points/game, doing what we do with what we have.

The Good Defense Argument. I guess this would be SF, the Chargers , and now Tampa. Not the Bears and Vikings, who were good defenses when we beat them. Not New Orleans. Not Seattle when we beat them in the playoffs.

Please look at our remaining schedule. Which of those teams is going to beat us because our #2 WR isn’t up to your standard? SF, Indy, Chicago (twice) are the best defenses remaining.

IMO, if we focus on keeping our QB healthy, we’ll win enough games to win the division. Even without getting someone to fill in while Lazard is out.

The Mitigating Adams theory.. Since we’re like 6-0 and averaging about 35 points a game without him in the lineup, I would suggest that mitigating Adams doesn’t slow the offense down. Not protecting our QB? That slows us down.

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AR2ADAMS's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:39 pm

I'm not a homer that thinks the Packers FO can do no wrong, I absolutely believe they should have drafted a WR at SOME point during the first few rounds of the draft, but they don't have the cap space to trade for some big name WR. Bakh, Jones, King, Linsley etc. hitting FA next year. Chances are at least 1 or 2 of them will walk as is. You trade for someone like Julio/Watt etc. that everyone's clamoring for and you can kiss all but maybe one of them goodbye. We have the #4 offense in the NFL (were #1 before that dud in Tampa) without Adams and Lazard for a lot of that time, so they must be doing something right. Also, I think you are wrong in your evaluation of Lazard as a WR3. Before he went out, he was the #1 WR in the NFL in DVOA and DYAR. And if analytics aren't your thing, he passed the eye test as well. As WR1 with Adams out, he was coming off a 6-146-1 game when he got hurt. He was also in the top 12 I believe in yards, and one of the best run blockers on the team. If anything, Lazard was playing like a #1 receiver, not a WR3, and will quell the talk of needing some big name stud at WR if/when he comes back.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 28, 2020 at 05:51 am

I love a good rant first thing in the morning!

Nice....

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Bearmeat's picture

October 28, 2020 at 07:45 am

I live to serve. ;)

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alvinator's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:17 am

Where is Taylor Gabriel? He is at least accomplished as a WR and should be cheap yet proven.

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Bearmeat's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:36 am

He would bench MVS for sure.

I really wanted Ginn. Better MVS version.

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coolhand's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:37 am

Why didn't the Packers go after Antonio Brown? The Bucs got him for $1 mil plus incentives. He might be a little whacko, but could have really helped the team right now with Lazard out. Adams and Brown would be one of the best 1-2 WR combos in the league with our offense.

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13TimeChamps's picture

October 27, 2020 at 12:51 pm

Maybe because he's been accused by TWO women of sexual assault, along with numerous other legal/criminal issues?

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Packers0808's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:14 am

Before the big condemn give the guy a chance! With AR you never know, being around a while maybe he will blossom with an elite QB throwing to him!

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Point-Packer's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:46 am

Man, minus Jaire, that MVS, J'Mon Moore, ESB draft is proving to be a WR mess. Other players drafted: Oren Burks, Cole Madison, James Looney, Josh Jackson.

Guess JK Scott panned out?....

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Fire_Gute's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:58 am

And it's drafts like that piss me off when people act like trading a 3rd or 4thround pick on a mid season rental is wrecking the future. And drafts like the 2020 one that make me want to fire Gute

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Point-Packer's picture

October 27, 2020 at 12:35 pm

jury is still out on 2020, but I agree it is looking a bit odd at this point. 2018 is now objectively a bad draft for Gute. Getting a top tier CB is excellent, but after that the second best player in the draft is a punter. Oof.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

October 27, 2020 at 06:57 pm

Thanks PP!

Just got indigestion!

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Thegravedigger's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:47 am

Could be an upgrade. Could be ryan grant (the receiver) and never play. Maybe he can be the motion guy while ervins out?

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Upperpack's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:52 am

Meh, another meaning less pick up with the hopes he turns out to be a contributing member kinda like Irvin last year. Just think if BG would have drafted fornpresent instead of future.....with first three picks could of had a starting Mlb, Wr and interior DL in no particular order. WR doesn't concern me very much if Lazard comes back but our defense is hurting big-time!!

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Point-Packer's picture

October 27, 2020 at 12:40 pm

Green Bay's hall of fame QB has the highest QBR in the league and is showing scant signs of slowing down and GB trades up for a project QB in the first round. I hope it pans out, and we won't know for another 2-3 years, but in the context of winning now when you have a legitimate chance and real gaps on both sides of the ball, I'm not buying it. I'm not buying the homer hype that it was a good move for this team.

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Nate-1980's picture

October 27, 2020 at 01:33 pm

I’m not buying it either, I don’t understand how so many think gute is good at his job.. Two below average drafts, some decent FA pick ups, but way more misses.. What am I missing here ?

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Leatherhead's picture

October 27, 2020 at 02:34 pm

Well, offhand, I think the 18-4 record with the coach he hired. That's kind of hard to miss. I may be wrong, but I think that's like the best of all time or something.

Just a guess.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

October 28, 2020 at 06:02 am

Noting the 18-4 record deserves a thumbs up because it is inarguable. Someone and probably multiple people are doing something right. Five downvotes surprises me.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 28, 2020 at 11:50 am

Not me. The downvote is a chickenshit way for people to say “I don’t like you”. It has nothing to do with the content of the post. People who disagree with content present their own argument. There are three people here....and I could probably name them......who routinely downvote anything with my avatar. Even a blank double post

It’s a chickenshit tool for people who cannot make a coherent argument or who just want to say “I don’t like you “. It should be disabled.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

October 27, 2020 at 08:21 pm

5 and 1this year!

Last year 14 and 3.

All this with only a few on here saying it will be at minimum of two years to replenish the talent on the team, and most on here it was going to take a minimum of 3 to 4 years.

So many on here crack me up! Seriously! Chill and let's enjoy the ride! The Pack is far exceeding expectations. For so many to be questioning Gute and LF defies common sense. Fantastic to be a Monday QB isnt it?

I will take it last year and this year. Keep drafting big bodies and fill in with many others in mid round and later along with FA, and undrafted.

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PhantomII's picture

October 27, 2020 at 10:02 pm

It's easier to enjoy the ride if you feel your GM is making moves to Win a Super Bowl. We have a pretty good Offense. Defense needs a few more bodies but we are improving there also. Next year Bak/Jones/King/Lindsley / Williams are up for Contracts. Most of those won't be here. The next year D. Adams. It's NOW or NOT FOR A FEW MORE YEARS. Picking up a few guys for a few draft picks at the chance for a better than last year showing makes sense to me considering how many picks don't produce in the draft.

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lucky953's picture

October 27, 2020 at 03:38 pm

Bring back Randall Cobb. He can run crossing routes pretty darn well, catches the ball, and he's got the love with 12. Texans going nowhere.

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DenePhillips's picture

October 27, 2020 at 05:46 pm

eh..

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ImaPayne's picture

October 27, 2020 at 09:14 pm

Being here in Minny and having every dam vike game on TV, the Stark contrast has always been the front offices.
Whenever the Vikes GM realizes a miss it's adios amigo. They had a rookie kicker last year who missed two of three field goals and was cut the next day.
We have brown and mvs who have done zip in three years. Must be cheap dates.

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October 27, 2020 at 10:10 pm

How is that working out for them though? They're 1-5 as opposed to 5-1. If anything, it seems like constantly cutting/trading players away is hurting their team. Just look at their record the last few years.
Playoffs:
2020 (1-5)- NO
2019 (10-6)- YES
2018 (8-7-1)- NO
2017 (13-3)- YES
2016- (8-8)- NO
2015 (11-5)- YES
Contrast that with the Packers who aside from the anomalies that were the 2017-18 seasons, and the downfall of McCarthy as a HC, They've made the playoffs 8 of the last 10 seasons. I'd say you're right about there being a stark contrast between the front offices, but the consistency from GB and the lack of consistency from MN suggests the opposite of what you're claiming.

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mrj007's picture

October 27, 2020 at 11:30 pm

Who?

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Harold Drake's picture

October 28, 2020 at 01:17 am

Let me officially declare myself as a proud Packer heathen! And this pitiful new signing will do nothing to change my view. Mssrs Nagler and Herman are the only commentators who continue to toe the Gutekunst Party line regarding our substandard WR corps (in the aggregate).

Living in Denial should be the title of Mr Nagler's daily chats. While I agree with 95% of his observations and insights into the Packers, he seems to stubbornly insist that the current WR corps is adequate to the task. It is not! The Packers lack both depth and quality at the position and even the eventual return of Allen Lazard will not solve the problem.

The fact that the Packers can win (against most teams) without any true No. 2 receiver (God forbid we would trade for a true co-equal elite receiver to complement Davante Adam) does not mean that the team would not be considerably improved with the addition of an elite WR. The last game demonstrated (even to Mr Nagler) that MVS is not ready for prime time. In his chat with Andy Herman, he seemed comfortable with the idea that Malik Taylor could be the answer!!!???

The time has come for the Packers to face reality and pursue an elite wideout which now appears to be the case according to various writers following the team. But it is time for Mr Nagler and fellow diehard optimists to stop living in denial and admit that this team is highly unlikely to advance far into the playoffs much less the Super Bowl without a true No. 2 receiver. But I fear that Mr Nagler and Mr Herman will continue to insist that the current WR corps is adequate mainly because to admit that it is not would invite questions about the draft and the selection of Love and Dillon with our first and second picks instead of a WR and an ILB. The success of the Steelers' Claypool and this weekend's game where Denzel Mims made a standout performance (both second round picks) is further proof of the failure of Gutekunst to address glaring weaknesses on the roster. (Need I mention that Rodgers is playing at an elite level and looks as if he could continue playing this way for three or four more years...)

It also seems that the general consensus view of every serious NFL analyst that the Packers erred by not drafting a WR and that the current WR corps is absurdly thin is all the more reason that CHTV is doubling down on a losing argument. Time for a reality check.

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Leatherhead's picture

October 28, 2020 at 11:52 am

Then how do you explain how we’re scoring 35 points with this insufficiency?

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CoachDino's picture

October 30, 2020 at 12:32 am

He can't, other than to say the other teams they score on with multiple missing starters on offense are all bad. When your advocating for a #2/elite rec. when your team has 6mil in cap space and an offense no longer configured for WR emphasis tells us all we need to know about a fans football acumen.

What does a Elite rec run in this league in $'s? 15mil plus, ok an Elite #2 rec, 10Mil plus. So #1 can't afford it. Then what are you willing to give up? Oh nevermind, the other team will just be happy to trade him away. No not a 1st or a 2nd rd pick, they will be happy with a 5th or 6th...Not!!!

Then look at 2021 cap, when you have to cut Salary the only way to backfill and meet the cap is with DRAFT picks. So you need them now more than ever.

Plus I just heard Herman today saying maybe this is the year to take a leap of faith on a WR. I don't agree unless. like all things, it makes sense.

I also don't see this year as their last best chance. I see the reason why it could be. When you Sign and draft well you end up losing guys to FA....
In my opinion losing Ajones, King and Lindsey is not going to make a huge difference. We've already seen it this year with the successful depth on offense.

The Packers Defense should get better with the development of Gary, Keke, Savage, Martin and Barnes. thats where they will get the biggest bang for their buck.

The 2021 offense could improve with the emergence of an IOL from the stable they drafted this year, Jace and Josiah will be back with Adams and Lazard.

There are certainly issues to be addressed. CB for one. Future LT/RT as well. Heck if the board falls right take a WR/gadget speedster.

Bah and Lindsey are awesome but both on the downside of their careers more due to age than performance.

Us fans are like teenagers in a way that we only see now and don't consider the budgets. We all WANT another Elite rec, who doesn't. Its never the point. The point is does it pass the cost benefit analysis....

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CoachDino's picture

October 28, 2020 at 02:01 am

A big name that may just be doable that IMO would be instant "impact" improvement probability positive. Quinnen Williams
Read an article explaining how his Signing bonus would stay with the Jets thus leaving the Packers with a very affordable contract. Heck, immediately cut Lowery and its paid for.

IMO if Jets are willing to trade him - How much? and How good is he?

I'd bet on him as far as ability to make an impact, instant impact at that. He can play nose but is better a 3T and brings pass rush and run defense. A rotation of 2 to 3 DL on the field of Williams, Clark, Lancaster and Keke is formidable. Takes DL from a weakness to a strength.

Compensation - IMO it will take the Packers 2021 1st Rd pick. The Packers most likely were thinking of drafting an IDL in the first few rds - I was thinking OT/CB myself but if the analysis shows they can grab what they need w/o the 1st Rd pick this trade might be a viable option.

IMO the Jets are fools to trade him so soon, he's not playing poorly but is stuck on a crappy team that seldom gets to really go after the QB. His stats may just explode with the Packers.

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PhantomII's picture

October 28, 2020 at 06:01 am

Williams well worth a #1 from Packers, even a little more if need be. Clark was a #1 pick. Instant DL improvement for next 4 yrs. It's about Super Bowl now and what it takes not to get there but WIN! QW is the best overall thing on D to do that. A #2 WR would be best for the Offense. Really good Safety would not hurt or play ours where they are best suited. Our ILB unit is coming on line minus injuries.

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October 29, 2020 at 05:36 pm

Unfortunately safety is on the radar. Savage is still showing his youth and though Amos has upped his game he isn't a difference maker as much as a Solid player.

With Keke,Adams and Lancaster stepping up this year and Clark healthy I'm not AS interested in a Run stuffer as I once ways. Plus they so often only have 2 DL out there.

I'd love to see a Solid #2 corner with a mid tier contract and at least one more year on it be considered. The drop off from King to Jackson is too much and yes Sullivan and Jackson are playing better but better than bad is not good. Yes, I know Sullivan isn't playing bad but that's because we see him as the #3 DB he is not a good DB in this league. He will most likely always be a 3/4 DB covering the Slot.

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October 28, 2020 at 05:47 am

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