The Lass Word: Suddenly Jordan Love is One Play Away From Being the QB

His time may be coming sooner than you think.

Most Packer fans figured they’d probably have to wait at least another year or two to see if first round draft choice Jordan Love was capable of playing winning football in an NFL regular season game.  But that timetable might have been accelerated by the news that Green Bay was not putting a tender offer on Tim Boyle.  A few days later Boyle signed with the Lions. 

 

Allowing Boyle to walk moves Love up to the back-up quarterback spot immediately.  Suddenly, he is one Aaron Rodgers injury play away from being Green Bay’s signal caller.   

 

It’s easy to take Rodgers’ availability for granted.  After all, he has started all 16 regular season games for the past three seasons.  In fact, since becoming the number one QB in 2008, Rodgers has started all 16 games in nine of thirteen seasons.  But certainly, his health is not guaranteed moving forward, and it’s not like he has been injury free during his career. 

 

He has missed a total of 18 games since 2008.  In 2010 he couldn’t answer the bell in Week 15 after suffering a concussion against the Lions the previous week.  In 2013 he broke his left collarbone and missed eight games.  In 2017 he broke his right collarbone and sat out nine games.  In the 2018 season opener, Rodgers was knocked out of the game with a knee injury, but made a Willis Reed-like reappearance in the second half to lead Green Bay to a dramatic comeback win.  (Younger readers will have to google Willis Reed to get the comparison.)  He was also knocked out of the last game of the season against the Lions with a concussion. 

 

Excellent offensive line play the past two seasons has kept Rodgers upright and clean for the most part, but that O-line will look much different when 2021 begins and the team can only hope the quality of protection doesn’t suffer with the release of tackle Rick Wagner, the loss of center Corey Linsley, and the likely absence of tackle David Bakhtiari for several games as he recovers from a knee injury.   

 

The point is, the redshirting of Jordan Love has ended.  He has to be ready to play....now.  Assuming there will be preseason games this summer, Love will have to play extensively and show something encouraging to the coaches.   

 

Entering his second year with the club, the Utah State product is still very much a question mark.   His rookie offseason instruction was virtual.  His training camp consisted of whatever non-contact reps were available to a third string signal caller, plus a little extra work after practice.   Most camp observers agreed that Love was outplayed by Boyle and were not surprised when Boyle was named the back-up.  The latter was in his third year with the team and second in the LaFleur system.  Love was inactive for every game of 2020.  That hadn’t happened to a first round rookie quarterback since Jason Campbell in 2011.  There is the real possibility that even this year’s offseason workouts will be virtual again. 

 

Love has flashed the rare abilities that enticed General Manager Brian Gutekunst to trade up and take him with his first pick.  There are times his mobility, arm strength and accuracy on the run remind you of current stars like Russell Wilson and Desean Watson.  But, like all rookies, he has not been consistent, and needs to learn to read defenses.  Coach Matt LaFleur has emphasized that Love needs to be seriously into his playbook, and needs to improve his footwork this offseason.   

 

Odds are, Love will be needed at some point.  Of the 32 NFL teams in 2020, only 13 had the same quarterback start all 16 regular season games.  Ben Roethlisberger, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Teddy Bridgewater, Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton all missed one game.  The Giants’ Daniel Jones missed two.  Saints starter Drew Brees missed four, as did the Jets’ Sam Darnold.  Cincinnati’s Joe Burrow sat out six contests, the 49ers’ Jimmy Garoppolo was unavailable for ten.  All of these absences were because of injury.  I didn’t count quarterbacks who were replaced because of poor play. 

 

Aaron Rodgers getting hurt is always the worst case scenario for Green Bay fans.  But if it does happen, the Packers would hope Love turns out to be similar to someone like Justin Herbert.  Pressed into service by the Chargers when starter Tyrod Taylor suffered a freak punctured lung after an injection by the team doctor, Herbert went on to shatter several first year records and was named Offensive Rookie of the Year.   Though the Chargers finished 7-9, the fault lay primarily with their defense, and they did win their final four games.  The Packers would hope Love shows that kind of savvy and poise if he’s needed. 

 

The jettisoning of Boyle also guarantees the Packers will draft a developmental quarterback this year, likely on day three.  Don’t be surprised if they also sign a veteran free agent on the cheap.  They are going to need some camp arms.     

 

But as of now, Jordan Love is the understudy.  Will he be ready if needed?  Packer Nation hopes we don’t have to find out. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2021 at 03:19 pm

Brett Favre went from backup to starter in his second season.

Drew Bledsoe was the overall #1 pick. He got his team to the Super Bowl. He got hurt and his backup took over. He was in his second season. It happens.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 05:16 pm

Brett Favre
Drew Bree's
Jordan Love

What name is out of place in that list?

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 05:33 pm

Leatherhead....

More accurately Brett Favre went from 3rd string in Atlanta to 2nd string at Green Bay ahead of Ty Detmer.

Starter Don Majkowski injured a ligament in his ankle in the 3rd game of the 1992 season.

Favre was then named the starting QB and never looked back.

I like to deal with true facts, i'm funny that way.

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marpag1's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:18 pm

This makes me giggle. Did anyone think that Tim Boyle was a comfortable old security blanket? A trusty and dependable old vet? Tim Boyle and his four career passing attempts?

Look at the bright side. The Lions are suddenly one snap away from starting Tim Boyle.

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 18, 2021 at 08:46 pm

I wish Boyle the best, but it would be completely within the realm of Lionsy possibilities for him to blow his knee while stretching during the first OTA.

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Stroh's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:43 pm

Given that Goff is the presumptive starter in Detroit, its certainly not out of the realm of possibility that Boyle becomes the starter for the leos sometime this season because he's a better QB than Goff.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:43 am

Great post!

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Harold Drake's picture

March 18, 2021 at 03:30 pm

Clickbait fluff.

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Packerpasty's picture

March 18, 2021 at 06:40 pm

thats about all there is this time of year..outside of an occasional free agent news drop...Packers already had that..

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PeteK's picture

March 18, 2021 at 03:40 pm

Rookie FA Qb yes, but no cap space for a veteran. I have confidence in our O line because last season saw an enormous amount of shuffling because of injuries and we still did well. Stepaniak could be a find as he was activated towards the second half of last season and had time to rest and learn. The Big ten is known for producing many pro linemen. Also, there is a possibly that our run game could be improved which could further protect Rodgers.

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ricky's picture

March 18, 2021 at 03:44 pm

The real question is how long the Packers wait to decide on when they're going to move on from Rodgers. It will probably happen before Rodgers has a big dropoff in production, as with Favre. It will then be up to the Packers to maximize their return on Rodgers. Would they bite the bullet and do something heretical and trade him within the division? Let the Vikings and Bears try to out bid each other for his services? And definitely, it would be a bitter pill to swallow. But with Favre ending up with the Vikings, and the Packers getting no compensation for him, it would make sense to get the highest return, even if it meant facing him twice a year for a couple of years.

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Somedumbname's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:05 pm

Never trade him within our own division. Preferably not even within the nfc. If the packers decide to trade rodgers, there will more than likely be plenty of suitors.

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:21 pm

Favre wasn't traded to the Vikings...he was traded to the Jets, and GB received a 3rd round pick for him. GB then traded that pick to NE to move up to draft CMIII.

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mnbadger's picture

March 19, 2021 at 12:40 pm

I agree, but only if AR privately asks for a trade. If his heart isn't in it, move him for many picks. Highest bidder. Just like drafting best available player. Always try your hardest to improve the team today and tomorrow. GPG

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Lphill's picture

March 18, 2021 at 03:45 pm

God help us if Rodgers gets injured.

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fastmoving's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:16 pm

Like AR said 2014 "Dont know if God cares about football games".
Besides that 2016 most people in America righfull said the same. And we survived. So no need for such drama anymore. Guess you can seek your help somewhere else, but you have to pay for it. Neander fee.

But at least you are right that Love was a good pick and may be even great when all is said and done. Cant be worse than Hill anyway......

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Lphill's picture

March 18, 2021 at 05:56 pm

Love was a wasted pick if only that pick was used for a playmaking defender or a dynamic receiver maybe the Packers would have another Lombardi .

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:09 pm

Ridiculous.

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Stroh's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:50 pm

There weren't any dynamic WR left with a 1st rd grade. IIRC only an ILB was left for defensive playmaker and he was an undersized ILB. Also QB are vastly more important to winning than ILB.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:18 am

Lphill......congrats for having some understanding and vision. That is sorely lacking in this sheep herd.
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Like you said, it isn't just about Jordan Love and whether he will be a starting QB in this league. That is secondary.
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What the sheep don't get, is the big picture, the true cost of drafting Jordan Love.
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It cost us a 1st round pick, and a 4th round pick, that could have helped the team win.....now.
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For every year that Love sits out, you are missing 2 players you could have drafted for need, each season under a rookie contract. That could be helping the team..... win now.
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Make no mistake people....Jordan Love costing 2 draft picks, sitting on the bench in no way shape or form, helps the Packers ....win now.
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It was a foolish draft pick while your at the end of Rodgers AND the Packers Super Bowl window.

Damn foolish.

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Lphill's picture

March 18, 2021 at 05:58 pm

Or a D lineman.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 19, 2021 at 12:44 am

Name one.

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Nobody's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:56 am

God invented everything, so he must like football.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2021 at 05:49 pm

I remember people saying that about Majkowski and Favre.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:06 pm

God help just about any team if their starter get's injured. If Brady gets injured, Blaine Gabbert is the Bucs starter, and so on and so forth.

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Fabio's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:18 pm

Just think if instead of LOVE we had written an ILB (Queen ??) or a WR (there would have been many). they probably wouldn't have made an impact in their first season (Love for sure) but this season we could be way ahead in team building and maybe we wouldn't need to re-sign AJ (although I love it I think it cost too much risk too much. high for an RB)
We tell Gute to trade Rodgers for Wilson on par
Greetings from Italy
Go Pack Go

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:08 pm

You want to dump the current MVP player, for a guy who badmouthed his front office and played poorly down the stretch? GB had a very rare chance to pick a QB they think could be their QB of the future. How is this different than the Rodgers pick? That turned out pretty well. You want to sacrifice a potential franchise QB for an ILB?????

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Stroh's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:52 pm

You clearly don't understand the draft and certainly not the Packers draft strategy! I'd be happy to help you with your lack of knowledge!

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Fabio's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:09 am

Hi guys.
First I hope I have not offended you with what I have written. I understand that writing a Q thinking it is a franchise perspective is a very important choice and therefore I understand the objection you are bringing.
My thought is that it would be great for a new Favre / Rodgers succession to occur. The only problem is that when Rodgers was drafted, Favre was already very much on the decline compared to his standard (not Rodgers) and above all he had announced the will to retire (which made TT compulsorily reflect on the draft). at the time Rodgers was the # 1 or max # prospect. 2 of the Qs available in 2005 and therefore could actually be perspective theft (Love was drafted as 4th Q and was also much discussed by all analysts as a level of choice over the Qs present). The real problem is that Green Bay in recent years has always been close (or in any case in perspective) SB so the needs HAD to be other (whether it was ILB or WR). The reality is that with a Q of which perhaps only the absence will make it clear over time the actual greatness (sucsate I am biased) the management has always got by and has never given, in a strong way, the weapons that they always are. miss this team ......
So I probably won't understand the strategy of the draft, but I notice once again that the wrong choices always make us chase problems without ever reaching and eliminating them.
Today's chronicles say that Green Bay has probed the FA of CB (now Fuller is also free despite being a former Bears) but they are all out of reach ..... Think if we had written a WR slot that maybe in this season he could become a starter and allowed us not to re-sign AJ (I love him despite everything as a player) and use the money spent on a good CB ....
But as usual we are talking about if if if if ....
The end is that we will not acquire any AF that is decisive or that shifts the balance.
So the question is:
Unless sensationally Gute does not surprise everyone and in the draft he manages to get 2 good players immediately (honestly IMPOSSIBLE), is this season's team qualitatively superior to that of last year?
And second:
Is this team qualitatively superior to the others (KC, Tampa ...) to give hope for an SB? (as a fan I will always hope for it regardless)
Or, as in the last 12 years, we all find ourselves hoping for everything in Rodgers again ???
However, this is a personal thought that clearly does not pretend to be law and that obviously does not necessarily have to please everyone, it is made by a humble fan who lives far from your reality (so it is very likely that you are wrong) and done only in order to be a matter of discussion because comparison is a beautiful thing and I think it always enriches those who participate in the interaction. Me first.
I would love to discuss Packers with you in front of a good beer and good laughs !!!
Greetings to all from Italy
Go Pack Go

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Ferrari-Driver's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:29 pm

Thus far, our management brain trust has done well according to our win/loss record. If we lose Rodgers for any portion of the season, it is expected to see any backup we've had during the last 10 plus years to struggle compared to our future hall of famer.
The one thing that worries me a bit is that Love struggled with the same things in college that Kiser struggled with in both college and the NFL. Both had trouble under pressure which isn't the kiss of death because most quarterbacks struggle a bit when under heavy pressure, but both Love and Kiser had trouble reading defenses and accuracy. I recall the Packers touting Kiser as a "First Round Talent" when they acquired him and it was a grave disappointment when he failed in Green Bay. From what I've read about Love indicates he is a fine young man who will represent the Packers in good fashion. Nevertheless, I sure hope LaFluer and Gute are spot on in finding him to be the hidden gem in that draft class.

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Fabio's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:50 pm

If we lose Rodgers now we go back to the 70s

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albert999's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:30 pm

Will fuller just inked 10 million one year deal with dolphins where he pays no state income tax and lives in Miami
We know now it’s about money and not rings to most...ask jj watt...doooohhhhhh

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dobber's picture

March 18, 2021 at 06:02 pm

You mean Miami, who won 10 games and came one game short of their first playoff appearance in ages?

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canadapacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 04:39 pm

As AR would say R E L A X - We are going to get a proper back up before the preseason starts - hopefully Love shows that he can be one but I doubt it right now without a real OTA/preseason and preseason game experience . But there are going to be unsigned back ups that will be coming available after most of the free agency period is done as well as a few free agent college kids after the draft. Every team needs them in order to do proper practices and drills and in order to be prepared for illness and injury. So we will just have to be patient.

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egbertsouse's picture

March 18, 2021 at 05:01 pm

If your 1st round draft choice QB isn't fit to be a backup by the 2nd year, it is time to pack his bags and give him a bus ticket to Bustville. He can share a seat with the GM that spent a 1st and 4th rounder on him.

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Duneslick's picture

March 18, 2021 at 05:24 pm

And out 1st and 4th rd picks might have been the difference in the NFC championship as well as would actually be playing this year

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 19, 2021 at 02:29 pm

Gedney replaces Sullivan as the nickel, possibly?

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canadapacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 06:17 pm

Come guys this wasnt a normal year. NO OTA's Little preseason - no preseason games

So what do you expect. And AR didnt see the field in anything meaningful until year 2 and then got injured. It wasnt until year 4 that he showed that he was really ready. Pretty brutal comments - dont know what side of the bed you got up but I think you banged into the wall.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:09 am

Didn’t we go 6-10 in year 4?

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Oppy's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:25 pm

YOu might have just said you would have sent first ballot HOF QB Aaron Rodgers packing before he ever had a chance to lead the Green Bay Packers.

Don't be so eager to cut bait. Your impatience doesn't make for wise decisions.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2021 at 07:48 am

If he did say that he wouldn’t have been alone. Many here had that attitude to Rodgers being picked, believed he was a system QB and, after his foot injury, made of glass. Moreover, he really didn’t look good in first outings, sending the angst to fever pitch.

The only difference is that this time around the prophets of doom don’t even have a snap to point to with Love yet, so he hasn’t had a chance to make a bad play.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:14 am

Brett Favre finished his rookie season 3rd on the QB chart, and he was drinking his way out of the league.

Yet, he ended up having a pretty good career. Kurt Warner got cut by a couple of teams.

Only the Sith......

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Bure9620's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:47 pm

Love is QB 2...That has been decided.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:53 am

It has been decided, indeed.

But it probably had nothing to do with merit. GB simply couldn't scrounge up $2.5M. If Boyle had been an ERFA still rather than an RFA, there would be a training camp battle for the #2 spot, and a decent chance that GB would end up carrying three QBs on the roster in 2021.

Just have to wait to see how Love develops. If 2020 was a wasted year for him due to Covid/no preseason, then one should consider 2021 as the year he sits, watches, and develops. From everything actually said by GMs and coaches (I mean, there wasn't even a bunch of meaningless coach-speak), not a helluva lot of development happened in 2020.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:58 am

Come on TGR....how do you know what Love looked like in practices?

My youngest son graduated from the Air Force Academy the same time as Love graduated. Now, almost a year later, he’s visibly bigger, stronger, and more confident. Why don’t you think Love is? Or why knowing the playbook hasn’t improved him? Or why hundreds of film sessions and practices hasn’t helped?

Love was a consensus first round value, and he’s almost certainly better today than he was a year ago. I wouldn’t call 2020 a wasted year, and plenty of people developed.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:24 pm

I can't really know, there you're right. I just know that Gute in his recent presser said Love made limited progress. Now, he didn't have to say that, and then again perhaps he just wanted to keep the pressure off of Love. I think LaFleur just talked about mechanical issues, footwork IIRC.

So I am giving Love another redshirt year in 2021. Unless AR gets hurt, Love can have another year anyway. If AR visibly declines in some way or Love wows the coaches in practice (and the GM wants to bet his job on Love) or Love gets a chance to play some regular-season games and shines in them, I believe AR will remain the QB.

If Love displaces AR, it should be organic, not part of some plan put together in 2020 that the front office is bound and determined to execute regardless of how things look on the field.

Love probably needs to see some action in 2022. The Packers have to decide whether to exercise his 5th-year option at the end of 2022 and under the new rules if exercised 2024 and 2025 become fully guaranteed. Also, it would be handy to trade/release AR in 2023 while Love is still on his cheap rookie deal so as to have a when to dump whatever dead money AR may have. I presume that he would still have cap savings, so that's a minor consideration.

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Leatherhead's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:09 pm

When Rodgers replaced Favre, was that “organic”?

Favre was a better QB in 2008 and 2009. I guess we should have just stuck with him until Rodgers became a free agent?

When the change is made, it won’t be because Love is better, it’ll be because it gives the team a better future.

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stockholder's picture

March 18, 2021 at 05:42 pm

I say Brian Brohm. GUTE I'm sure Remembers him? But what about you fans that praise Gute. So were all excited about Love, but not satisfied with Rodgers. He's OVER PAID. Gute says he Thoughtfully and Carefully selected Love. That he surely isn't Kizer. How dare he put him in the starting roll yet. How Dare they compare him to other starters in the NFL. He sat the BENCH.!! He didn't beat out Boyle. He was given preference on his selection. Why spike the Football?

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:10 pm

What the heck are you saying?

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LeotisHarris's picture

March 18, 2021 at 08:52 pm

I'm not sure what you're saying, either, but I am a huge fan of starting rolls. Delicious!

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Tingham's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:04 pm

Plenty of room on the Bears bandwagon. Go have fun with a team that isnt as stupid as this one I guess.

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Tundraboy's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:18 pm

Sounds like Tucker wrote this.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 19, 2021 at 12:50 am

Why spike your punch?

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Lphill's picture

March 18, 2021 at 06:26 pm

A lot of holes in the defense right now,D line down 2, one experienced corner Alexander, 2 inexperienced inside linebackers , I guess Gutey will fill in the holes with a bunch of undrafted guys.

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WestCoastPackerBacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:11 pm

Well, FA just started; there are more contracts that can be reconfigured and GB has 10 draft picks. The roster might look a little different by the time the season rolls around.

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4thandinches's picture

March 19, 2021 at 01:16 am

You guys are really making me hungry with all this roll talk. Kaiser rolls are really delicious... with butter...

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:18 pm

Yeah, and then people like edp can whine whenever a team gets a first down against us, like he always does.

If you've ever played on a defense, you know it's about teamwork and trust. I have to do my job and trust my teammates will do theirs. There are a lot of good defensive players lining up for the Packers....Clark, Smith, and Alexander would all be considered stars at their position. Savage. Gary, Amos and P.Smith would all have to be considered no worse than average. Khrys Barnes looks like a real player and I'm excited about him. We're going to get some help in the draft, and we have solid fill in guys in Lancaster, Lowry, Keke, Jackson, Green, Sullivan......

I think the deeper question is how good does the defense have to be? My experience tells me that if you score more than 30, you usually win, and when you score over 35, you almost always win. So you only need a defense that can hold teams under 30, and we have plenty enough talent to do that, or will, after the draft.

This team is built to win with an overpowering offense. It needs to deliver when all the chips are on the table.

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Crankbait's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:16 am

All you have to do is have a defense they can hold opponents 30 points or less?
That is a true recipe/attitude to be one and done in the playoffs my good fellow.
( Prime example, headset of Green Bay Packers management)

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croatpackfan's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:56 am

Yeah. It is better to have #1 D in NFL and than got 32 points in Divisional round. While your offense score only 18 points on horrible D.

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canadapacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 06:28 pm

Lass is sucking wind if he thinks that all training camps will be virtual this year. They may not have any in person stuff in May - but the US is supposedly on schedule to have enough vaccines to vaccinate every US citizen who wants it by the end of May. If these teams want people to attend their OTA's practices and training camp events they will ensure that the players are vaccinated or at least get set up to vaccinate them and all of their staff etc in May and early June - so that a more normal preseason routine along with some preseason games and even joint practices will take place. This is where the rubber meets the road for guys like Love and the rookies. This is where Lafleur needs to get prepared for the new season to fix the things that went wrong last season when teams like the Vikes and Tampa shut the offense down and to get the new Defensive co-ordinators scheme installed. Pretty sick comments above - probably some Viking trolls. PS The Bears still suck

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Leatherhead's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:03 pm

It boggles my mind. Now that the vaccine is here and being distributed, all of the people concerned will be vaccinated. There's no reason to continue with some of these arbitrary and unnecessary measures to contain a virus that we can vaccinate against.

So I completely agree with you here, Canadapacker. There may be some remote video stuff, but we're going to be practicing together.

I know that there's been nothing to write about Love except fluff right now, because he was always inactive and we had no exhibition games. And he hasn't gotten caught doing coke with some hooker and her donkey, so we can't even be critical of him.

There's about a 50% chance he's going to be a decent NFL QB, if TGR's data on that is correct, and I think it pretty much is. There's less than a 25% chance he'll be a Pro Bowler. Hell, he could get hurt, or be another Brian Brohm. Or a Mitch Trubisky.

Or a Dickey, or a Campbell, or a Majkowski. I don't know.

But what I do know is that he'll replace Aaron Rodgers as the starting QB of the Green Bay Packers. Maybe in a year, maybe in two years, and maybe it's a mistake, but it's going to happen.

So for ME, I'm going to pull as hard as I can for this guy to succeed. I'm going to hope that our personnel department, and our scouts, and our talent evaluators, and our coaches and trainers can make this guy a good starting QB.

In this offense, what do you think are the most necessary abilities a QB needs? Running and scrambling, a la Wilson and Jackson? Laserrocket arm?

I would submit a Lafleur QB would :

Protect the ball.
Make good reads and accurate throws.
Be smooth and deceptive as a ball handler.

That's Rodgers. He's a tricky bastard with those handoffs and fakes and is an accurate passer who rarely turns it over. But it also might be Love. He's got a front row seat to this, and he's kind of a smooth moving QB who can throw strikes.

I'm going to remain optimistic until there's a reason not to. Right now, I think the Packers are stronger at the QB position than 90% of the teams in the league, both for now and the next few years.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:53 am

Leather, as always another great post!

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Guam's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:24 am

Anyone who bothers to read my posts knows that I was not a fan of the Love pick. Not because of Jordan Love, but because of needs elsewhere that went unfilled.

However the Packers drafted Love and as fans we have to hope that he is our QB of the future and maybe even our third consecutive HOF QB. Love needs the opportunity to develop which is why Boyle is no longer with the team. Love needs the majority of the preseason snaps as well as the responsibility of preparing like a #2 QB. He wasn't going to get better holding a clipboard behind Boyle.

The Packers have plenty of time to develop Love as Rodgers is still playing at an incredibly high level. Whether it takes two years or five years, Gute drafted Love to be Rodgers' replacement. Lets hope Gute is right and we don't get on a QB merry-go-round like the Bears have had for the past twenty years. I didn't like the Love pick, but as a life long Packer fan I want to see Love develop into the Packer's next QB.

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Crankbait's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:37 am

The vaccines will bring back "normalcy" ?
My God there is a CGI President running this country right now.
The Democrats and their media are NOT finished milking this fake crisis for control and political gain.
Sadly, "the people" need to step up and demand that our freedoms are restored , but that will never happen. ( sorry , but someone has to say it)
Expect some crumbs next season in the form of more fans allowed in the stands but don't expect normalcy.
The Packers are going to be one of the top five teams again next year and a cinch to win our division and that will be very enjoyable that's for sure .
Go Pack !

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Spock's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:19 am

"The Democrats and their media are NOT finished milking this fake crisis for control and political gain." Seriously? There is a WORLD WIDE PANDEMIC with hundreds of thousands dead and you think this is a plot by Democrats in the U.S.? Take off the tin foil hat. You sound like someone who is Crazy/and or seriously uniformed. Guess you thought it was "The People" who were trying to hang Pence and Pelosi on Jan. 6th, and so that was O.K. Wow, just Wow. Get out of the basement (that's where the Q-Anon dude with the buffalo hat and tats was living in his mother's house) and do some Fact checking on sites that aren't right wing myth makers. Yikes, I'm glad I don't live near you. Anyways, if you are going to try and inject politics into a Packers site (you shouldn't) at least have some facts, not fairy tales.

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barutanseijin's picture

March 19, 2021 at 02:39 pm

Crazy or uninformed?

Why not both?

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Crankbait's picture

March 22, 2021 at 06:29 am

Half the country begs to differ with you. If you choose to believe everything the main stream media feeds you well then Just get in line with the rest of the sheep that do and watch your country disappear to China and the globalists.

It is fine and dandy if there is no politics in this blog but sometimes responding to a comment can take you there.
Whether you want to admit it or not politics is affecting our Green Bay Packers and the NFL as a whole in a huge way if you want to just ignore it be my guest, but it shouldn't make you want to attack someone with a different opinion than yours.

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PF4L's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:01 pm

Training camps were what they were last season...for everyone

Not to blast on Love....but what i don't get is why can't a first round QB beat out an UDFA QB with 4 passes under his belt..... for 2nd string?
I think that speaks to how much of a project Love really is, just as most of the scouts said about him pre draft.

While at the same time, rookie QB Justin Herbert, who had the same virtual training camps.. is tossing the rock for the Chargers as if he was a 4 year veteran Pro Bowler.

I heard something from NFL people, many many times, and i believe it 100%

It's been said by many, that the transition from college to the NFL is 90% mental.
That is where they don't make the cut. Most of these guys are highly athletic, that usually isn't the problem.

The Packers got caught with their pants down at back up QB in 2013. They said they learned their lesson. They haven't learned anything.

If Rodgers gets hurt for the majority of the season, it's over. The players knew it back in 2017, you could see it on their faces.
No back up is going to come in and bring it home.

This team will go as far as Rodgers can take it. Without him...forget about it.

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Bure9620's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:51 pm

Turn on the rookie preseason film of Rodgers........He was outplayed by Craig Nall.....And Rodgers HAD an offseason, OTAs and rookie mini camp

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Oppy's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:28 pm

Yup, Rodgers' throwing mechanics were a god-awful mess when he came into the league.

People forget that Rodgers took time to develop into the player we've all come to know. Not saying that Love is as talented as Rodgers, but people need to give young players a chance to develop some times.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:35 am

He held the ball too high.

He wasn't a God awful mess...lol

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2021 at 07:53 am

He looked awful. He also looked fragile. Many thought him the next Tedford system bust. He certainly played a lot worse than Nall.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 10:06 am

AGAIN......

Nall had 3 training camps and pre-seasons, plus played in 6 regular season games before Rodgers was ever drafted.

Are you shocked Nall outplayed a rookie out of college who didn't know the system?

GENIUS!!....I love you guys, so entertaining!!

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 10:09 am

So....was Nall the 2nd string QB in 2005?

He had to have been....beating out Rodgers so badly....right?

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Oppy's picture

March 20, 2021 at 10:21 am

Rodgers was completely re-tooled in almost every aspect of his mechanics. How he takes the snap, carried the ball in the pocket, footwork, throwing motion.. everything. The arm talent was always apparent, but he was rough, rough, rough. His play from 2005 and 2006 preseason isn't even recognizable compared to how he's developed. Completely different in almost every aspect.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:39 am

Bure.....

That's fantastic for Craig Nall, how did that work out for him?

Craig Nall had 3 NFL training camps and played in 6 NFL games before Rodgers was even drafted.
Could that be why Nall looked better?

Do some research before you click "submit comment".

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Bure9620's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:33 am

Note to self....When PF4L asks you to "do research" just go ahead and move forward with your life

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 10:11 am

Yea...follow Bure's advice....stay ignorant

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:30 am

Yea....stay ignorant

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Oppy's picture

March 20, 2021 at 10:25 am

You are completely missing the point, PF4L.

That point being, what Jordan Love is today, may not be what Jordan Love is in year 3 or 4.

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4thandinches's picture

March 19, 2021 at 01:24 am

You might be right. I'm curious though if you've watched Love throw a single pass in person. If not, please consider for a second that the Packers talent evaluators have been watching and speaking with him daily. Maybe they're pretty good at what they do?

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buddrow53's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:49 am

I agree, the powers to be have faith in their drafting. Look at the negative nellies on all these boards that wanted to shitcan our wrs over the last 10-15 years after 1 or 2 years.

James Jones Adams, mvs so on. I just shake my head!

The sky is falling!!!!!!

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 10:20 am

I never questioned Jones or Adams. I always said about Adams that Rodgers and McCarthy see something in him and that's why he got so many chances. But even in Adams first two seasons, he had a higher catch rate than MVS has had in his 3 year career.

MVS won't be cut because he makes flash plays on the cheap, he won't let the team cut him.

BUT....once he's looking for that huge raise in his 2nd contract it could be a different story.
Most receivers who have a career target catch rate of 52% don't make the 53 man roster. So this is a big year for him.

If this is anyway confusing...i apologize.

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Crankbait's picture

March 23, 2021 at 05:45 pm

The sky actually did fall in way too many playoff games since 2010.
Reality.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:56 am

Wow...wish my crystal ball worked as well as yours!

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JQ's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:46 pm

I agree he needs an opportunity to get on the practice field AND the Packers also need to see if he looks like the prospect they drafted. He’s only 22 years old, but he needs to take advantage of the opportunity!

Since the Packers have a much better idea of his development than us, I have to think they’d have held onto Boyle if they had significant doubts. If they do bring in a backup vet, that will speak volumes about how confident GB feels about Love, at least at this point and maybe beyond.

In a related note: I think Tim Boyle has a legitimate shot at beating out Goff as the Lion starter. I think it will be an interesting sidebar to follow this Summer and into next season.

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13TimeChamps's picture

March 18, 2021 at 08:49 pm

"Two young players with opposite trajectories."

After 4 career passes for 15 yards....and Boyle is on a trajectory? Lol

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JQ's picture

March 19, 2021 at 01:16 pm

Ha,Ha,Ha! Point taken. I fixed it - would have done a strike-through but no option.

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canadapacker's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:21 pm

Boyle was a restricted free agent - he is going to make $2,5 mill next year - I dont think that the Pack wanted to waste that much cap money on a back up - when 2 things might happen - 1. Love might be good enough to be a back up -- especially since we WILL have a full training camp sometimes in June and August with preseason games. 2 there will be back up quarterbacks available near the end of free agency - much cheaper ( and free agent college walk ons). The Pack will need quarterbacks in the room and on the field to run drills and to be prepared for an injury or illness with the QB's. Always has been more than 2 there and always will until the cutdown. Once in awhile they keep one on the PS. Finally Boyle will not beat out Goff but I like that idea because the Lions will be like the Bears - and really suck.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 18, 2021 at 11:32 pm

Perhaps. However, I kind of doubt the Packers find a journeyman backup QB out there who won't cost too much for their budget.

No doubt the packers find some camp arms in the UDFA or late draft areas.

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canadapacker's picture

March 19, 2021 at 07:41 am

At least 20 on Sportrac - what about Smith - wouldnt that be ironic? My point is that they might get a guy in who is cheap on standby - but think that they will wait until just before camp - so see if they need a real back up - but dont know about bringing in a Mentor type of guy - But a guy like Hoyer might be back and New England unless they go after a QB in the early rounds as they have the 12th pick and somebody might fall - not a BB trait though.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2021 at 10:23 am

It doesn't look to me right now like GB is going to have 2 cents to spend on a backup QB much less $2M for a journeyman.

I think Love is it and that it is 100% driven by the cap. In fact, if they do sign a journeyman QB late in camp, that would scare the hell out of me. If Boyle had been an ERFA and not an RFA, he'd still be on this team.

Guess I am not surprised that the team has waited to restructure AR. I predicted they would wait. But the emotions and to be honest, the doubts are creeping in that the team might not generate at least $10M in cap savings from AR.

GB needs to free up $20M more to do any kind of damage in free agency. Maybe they extend Amos, Z, Turner, and Crosby instead of going big on AR, or in addition to doing that.

If they don't do more than $15M anyway, GB will go into 2021 minus Linsley, Wagner, King, Lewis, Greene, Redmond, Lancaster, Jamaal Williams, M. Adams, Kirksey, and quite possibly Sullivan. I'd guess no one makes a run at Tonyan given the 2nd round tender, but no one will know until April 23rd.

If that's the case, then GB better get some development out of the 2020 draft, which is quite possible (Dillon, Deguara, and Martin in particular), and have a pretty good 2021 draft as well.

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Bure9620's picture

March 18, 2021 at 11:52 pm

Love becoming QB2 in year 2 was part of the plan all along. Jordan Love is a 1st round pick. There was zero chance the Packers were going to tender Boyle.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

March 19, 2021 at 10:32 am

True. I imagine the plan was for Love to earn it, though.

Love has potential, no doubt about that. That's what the plan noted and potential is what his promotion to #2 is based on.

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Stroh's picture

March 18, 2021 at 11:17 pm

Boyle won't be given a chance to win the job over Goff to start the season. But at some point there's a very real possibility that the lions will bench Goff for poor play and then Boyle will have his chance to take the job and keep it for awhile, tho probably not much more than the rest of the season. At which time next draft they use a high draft pick on a QB. Boyle could easily prove to be a better option than Goff.

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Bure9620's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:41 pm

Excited for Jordan Love in preseason. I liked the pick, this kid was working with nothing around him in college. I think he will surprise people. The notion Boyle would be on this team was funny. And no, Boyle is not starting for the Lions

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Stroh's picture

March 18, 2021 at 11:25 pm

When Love had decent players around him he was outstanding in college. So IMO, he has a good chance to become a quality NFL QB. Maybe a Dak Prescott type, but not a generational or HOF QB.

Boyle won't start immediately for the lions, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he becomes the starter at some point in '21 and keeps the job over Goff.

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jannes bjornson's picture

March 19, 2021 at 01:00 am

He went from Mike Wells and David Yost's offense to Gary Andersen,. Case closed.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 07:12 am

When the Vikings took Jefferson (WR) right before the Packers and I saw the Packers move up in the 1st round I knew the Packers were taking Love. He is talented and I am very excited about his future. The drafting of any player at any position is a crap shoot (look at the last 10 years of the Packers 1st round draft choices), and Love will not be any different.

The comment that Love needs to bury his head in the playbook is telling. If he does would seem matched with his athletism good things are likely to happen. I am excited about his potential and will monitor his development with interest.

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Spock's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:35 am

Every article I read about Jordan Love when the Packers took him pointed out that he is a film room junky and constantly studies to be a better QB. His athleticism is, of course, a big plus. I'm excited to see how he does too. I'm not worried about him "needing to bury his head in the playbook" as that seems to be his M.O., lol.

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Packers0808's picture

March 18, 2021 at 07:48 pm

Hope they didn't get rid of Boyle and find out that Love isn't the answer> Then have to bring in some vet for back up and pay him more than they would have had to pay Boyle!

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Crankbait's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:40 am

All you need is Love.

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Oppy's picture

March 20, 2021 at 10:33 am

Unless you think Boyle is the answer, what difference does it really make?

In my opinion, Boyle has shown arm strength and patience in the pocket, but thus far in his young career, has not shown NFL starter type accuracy. He seems to place the ball in a general area of a WR, but he doesn't seem to throw the ball to a point in space. Example, placing the ball in front of a WR where it's catchable vs. placing the ball high to the outside shoulder of a WR running down the sideline where the WR can catch it but the CB trailing with inside leverage cannot.

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Irish_Cheesehead's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:09 pm

"You're looking at a guy who's going to mature. He's got athletic ability that people still haven't seen."

That's what McCarthy said about Rodgers their first season together (Rodgers' second). I'm not saying Love is the next Rodgers, but give him a chance. Rodgers was terrible his first couple of seasons. I was at training camp those summers and fans there couldn't say enough bad things about the Rodgers pick. How'd that turn out?

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Oppy's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:30 pm

Literally just got done posting the same sentiments.

I am always amazed at how short the memory of the typical Packers fan is. It's either short memory, or an inability to learn from experience.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 06:56 am

Irish.....

Not sure your aware, but the reason fans were saying bad things about Rodgers is because they were butt hurt the Packers drafted a QB in the first round.

Rodgers barely played in his 1st 2 seasons, 31 attempts....judge that if it makes you feel better
At least he won the 2nd string job and completed some passes

As far as Rodgers first two seasons (starting)
He threw 58 TD passes and 20 picks.
Had passer ratings of ..93.8 and 103.2
Completion percentage of 64.3

TERRIBLE

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 07:14 am

Agree Irish about Rodgers early years

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MarkinMadison's picture

March 18, 2021 at 09:57 pm

The most confusing part about the article to me was the idea that Love has "flashed" but like all rookies he was "inconsistent." 2020 was a dumpster fire. The sample size we have on Love is too small to even bother commenting on. The bottom line is that none of us has a clue what Love looks like right now, unless you work for the Green Bay Packers. If they had concerns I think they would have tendered Boyle.

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Coldworld's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:01 am

Do you really think Boyle could have carried us? I suppose you must. If not, it’s really stress over upside or not. Boyle had some good points but he never really convinced. Love isn’t going to be that much worse if called on. It’s possible he is better.

Given Boyle’s college history, it’s kind of funny to talk about small sample sizes in a discussion involving him. By comparison, Craig Nall was more polished and had a much better case to be above Rodgers on the roster at the same point in his first contract.

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Tundraboy's picture

March 18, 2021 at 10:10 pm

Sounds like

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4thandinches's picture

March 19, 2021 at 01:33 am

Yep. We're taking the plunge. We haven't had a more promising backup since Flynn. Teams can generally only pay 1 decent to good qb. Or they can pay 2 bad veterans, like the Bears. I like the Packers approach.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 07:11 am

" Herbert went on to shatter several first year records and was named Offensive Rookie of the Year" - Ken Lass

Gee, Justin Herbert did all that with the same type of training camp as Jordan Love?
Go figure.

But Love couldn't beat out a UDFA with 4 passes under his belt for the 2nd string position?

Does that seem odd.......to anyone?

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:42 am

Actually no!

There was no reason for Love be put in that position. If Rodgers had gotten hurt and missed a number of games it would have been interesting to see what the Packers would do if Boyle struggled. Than to me if Love wasnt even considered to come in than I might have some concern.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:58 am

Yea well....i think you missed the point.

What does that mean, there was no reason to put Love in that position?
A first round draft pick guaranteed 12 million?...how dare they!!

What position? Expecting a 1st round pick to beat out a undrafted player?
THE NERVE!!

But rookie Justin Herbert can have a better season than more than half the veteran QB's in the NFL?

I don't think Herbert is crying about the position he was put in....starting QB.
He welcomed it...that's what winners do.

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PF4L's picture

March 19, 2021 at 11:25 am

It seems Nagler is deleting some of my post.
.
I guess he felt i was hurting some feelings in here with reality based comments.

You boys should thank him, maybe send him some cookies.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

March 19, 2021 at 08:42 am

Actually no!

There was no reason for Love be put in that position. If Rodgers had gotten hurt and missed a number of games it would have been interesting to see what the Packers would do if Boyle struggled. Than to me if Love wasnt even considered to come in than I might have some concern.

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canadapacker's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:26 am

No concern for me - the point is that the Packers have a way of bringing on their QB's and develop them slowly since Rodgers - it doesnt always work into starters - Hundley , Flynn Tolzein Wallace Harrell - During Favre it did with Hassleback and Brunnell - and one can argue with McMahon. We have never been able to survive a Rodgers injury or be productive unless you count Flynn getting us into the playoffs but maybe the team did that. I predict that Trubisky is going to be a good starting quarterback and probably will be better than his performance with the Bears with a better team and offensive approach. But the Bears will always suck with their spend and dump philosophy.

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mnbadger's picture

March 19, 2021 at 12:52 pm

Herbert flashed some nice plays but looked lost and way over his head during the first four or five games. Once things slowed down for him, his athleticism and competitiveness took over and allowed him to flourish. The same is likely true for all inexperienced players and more so for qb's. GPG

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Since'61's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:24 am

The bottom line is that if Rodgers were injured for any period of time in 2021, the season is over. Love is not going to carry the team. Not that Boyle could carry the team for any length of time either.

It would actually be pretty funny if the Packers draft a QB in the late rounds or sign a UDFA who comes in and beats out Love for the #2 spot during the preseason. That would be bad for Gute but Rodgers would be thinking, "It's all good!" Stanger things have happened.

Thanks, Since '61

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PatrickGB's picture

March 19, 2021 at 09:45 am

I read an article about Josh Allan in Buffalo. He was a bit of a mess his first and part of his second season. Yet with practice and training he has become (in my mind) one of the best QB’s in the league. The article was about a good QB with flaws in his game can improve with the right coaching. I think that the front office in GB had the same kind of impression about Jordan. And besides, when IS the best time to draft a QB? Many will say “it’s when you really don’t need one”. If Love is a bust, then so be it. It’s would not be the first time it’s happened in the NFL.

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SierraSam's picture

March 19, 2021 at 04:17 pm

God, I can just see it. Rogers goes down, Love has a meltdown. And the Lions under Boyal and Jamaal hand Green Bay a couple of L's!!! I'll take a Spotted Cow and two butterburgers please!!!

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