The Lass Word: Re-signing Aaron Jones is Risky

NFL star running backs can flame out quickly.

On the surface, it looks like a no-brainer.   You re-sign Aaron Jones now, right?   After all, he has proven himself a top ten running back.   He currently stands 6th among running backs in yards per carry, 9th in total rushing yards, 9th in touchdowns with 7 scores.   He has also caught 38 passes for 285 yards and two more touchdowns.   He needs to average just 59 yards rushing in each of the last three games to notch his second straight 1,000 yard season.   Last year he led the NFL with 16 rushing scores.   He has that ability to explode through the hole and the shiftiness to break tackles once in space, combined with the speed to take it to the house.

He's 26 years old, in the prime of his career.   He's a humble guy with a perpetual smile who fits perfectly into an upbeat locker room culture.   So much of what makes Green Bay's offense work is the play action off the threat of his game breaking ability.   The Packers are in the home stretch of a battle for top seed in the NFC.   

So what's not to like?   Extend him.   Sooner rather than later, right?

Well, as Lee Corso would say, not so fast my friend.   Let's step back, take a deep breath, and look at the big picture.   Re-signing Jones means committing to him long term, probably four years.   The NFL is littered with cautionary tales of star running backs who re-sign for the big bucks, and then spiral quickly downward.   The decline is usually brought on by injuries, because ball carriers take such a terrific beating each and every game.

Look no further than Green Bay's opponent Saturday night.   Carolina's Christian McCaffery signed the richest deal for a running back in NFL history last spring, averaging over $16 million per year.   But this season has been a disaster.   The former Stanford All-American has missed 10 of the last eleven games with ankle, shoulder and thigh injuries.   And Tuesday Panthers coach Matt Rhule said he did not expect McCaffery to be able to play against the Packers either.

Todd Gurley was the toast of Los Angeles after the 2017 and '18 seasons, where he rushed for a total of 30 touchdowns and over 2,500 yards.   The Rams signed him to a four year contract averaging $15 million per year.   But knee injuries caused his play to decline so severely, the Rams cut him after the 2019 campaign.   He signed with the Falcons and is having a mediocre season, rushing for more than 63 yards in a game just twice.

David Johnson had an incredible 2016, rushing for 1,239 yards and 16 touchdowns.   The Cardinals re-upped him for an average of $13 million per year.   Then came ankle, knee and wrist injuries.   Johnson's availability and play fell off so badly that Arizona dealt him away to Houston in the infamous DeAndre Hopkins trade.   He's missed four more games this year and is a shadow of his former self.

Zeke Elliott is getting an average of $15 million per year under his new  deal, but his productivity has taken a nose dive this season after Cowboys' quarterback Dak Prescott went down and the offensive line became a work in progress. 

Prior to 2019, Jones himself was an injury question mark.   He missed 8 games in his first two seasons, and has missed two more this year.

Remember Eddie Lacy?   He was a beast his first two years, running for over 2,300 yards and 20 touchdowns.   He looked like the reincarnation of Hall of Famer Jerome Bettis.   Two years later he was gone.

Still, the question must be asked, if you choose to let Jones walk, can you replace him?   Is he special?   Again, let's look around the league.

Jacksonville's James Robinson is an undrafted free agent.   He is currently third in the league in rushing yards.   The 49ers' Raheem Mostert and the Chargers' Austin Ekeler are both above average backs.   Both were UDFA's.   Seattle's Chris Carson was a 7th round pick.   Aaron Jones himself was a 5th rounder.   Of all position groups in the league, it is generally thought that running back is one of the easiest to stock. 

 But just because it is one of the easiest doesn't mean it's easy.   Jones' absence was painfully felt in the loss to the Vikings.   Jamaal Williams and A.J. Dillon combined for 96 yards on the ground, but the Packers desperately missed Jones' ability to break the big play, catch passes and move the chains. 

Then there are the salary cap repercussions.   After giving huge new contracts to David Bakhtiari and Kenny Clark, the Packers are already projected to be over the expected cap in 2021.   Any new deal with Jones would likely have to be heavily leveraged into future years.   Green Bay could put the franchise tag on him.  That would lock him into a 2021 figure of around $10.8 million.   That's a pretty hefty chunk  to be massaged into the budget.   Plus, Green Bay almost never uses the tag, and it almost always leads to acrimony between player and team.

As a fan, it's hard not to love this team.   Even harder not to love and pull for a guy like Aaron Jones.   We watched him come here from relative obscurity at Texas-El Paso, fight through injuries  and develop into a star.   I want him to stay.   But there's a lot for General Manager Brian Gutekunst to think about.   I'm glad it's his decision and not mine. 

 

OUTTAKES

•  MVS is getting handsy

Marquez Valdes-Scantling has been listening to his coaches and his quarterback.   They've been telling him to catch the ball with his hands, away from his body.   Against the Lions, MVS caught all six of his targets with his hands extended out.   You could tell he was consciously making an effort to get his arms out.   On his spectacular touchdown catch, grabbing the ball with his hands  saved the play.   Had he allowed the ball to get to his body, the defender, who was all over him, would have been able to break it up.

 

•  The Pro Bowl is a Joke

Being selected to the Pro Bowl means nothing to me.   Even the players don't respect it.   Many of them use any excuse they can to bail out of it.   The fans, who count one third of the total,  just vote for players they know or like.   If you don't have a high national profile, you get overlooked, no matter how good of a season you've had.   A great example is Packers tackle David Bakhtiari, who has been All Pro four consecutive years, but was only voted in to the Pro Bowl as a starter for the first time in 2019. 

 

•  Wood Had the Goods

Aaron Rodgers said this week that the greatest player he was ever on the same team with was Charles Woodson.   I always thought it was ironic that Woodson, who had done so much to get the Packers to the Super Bowl during the 2010 season, had to stand on the sideline and watch most of the big game after getting hurt..

 

•  The 2021 Draft

I've seen a lot of fan comment on various platforms of late speculating on what position the Packers might try to fill in the spring draft.   The timimg is a bit odd, considering the Pack is in the stretch run of the current season, but I get it.   It's always fun to think about where our team can get better.   The reality is, it all depends on how free agency plays out.   You might think our greatest need right now is an ILB, or a DL.   But what if Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams both leave as free agents?   The Pack would have to be in the market for a running back.   What if Kevin King walks?   Green Bay might have to go DB.    Lots of moving parts, literally, before draft weekend.

 

•  I'm Nervous About This Game

I just can't shake the feeling that this game Saturday night against Carolina is a classic trap game.   The Packers may subconsciously be looking ahead to Tennessee.   The 4-9 Panthers, on the other hand, likely see this as their Super Bowl.   A chance to make a statement on national TV in prime time.   Carolina is scrappy and capable of playing really well in spurts.   They shut out the Lions 20-0, and lost to the Chiefs by just two points.    I look for Green Bay to get punched in the mouth early and fall behind.   I think we have the maturity and poise to regroup in the second half and pull it out.      

 

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Ken Lass is a former Green Bay television sports anchor and 43 year media veteran, a lifelong Packers fan, and a shareholder.

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PewAuKeeFan's picture

December 17, 2020 at 03:42 pm

I think the way the Packers deploy their running backs (by committee) is the best way. RBs get a lot of hits and put a lot of stress on their bodies. A committee approach reduces the wear and tear on their bodies.

If RBs were wise, they would prefer less snaps with lower contracts - but with more years. $15 million for 4 years gets you $60 million. Take $10 million for 10 years with lower wear and tear, and you get to play for longer for more money. Ultimately the RB has to decide whether to strike while the iron is hot, or be smart and warm. If Christian McCaffery hadn't tried to be superman for the Panthers last year, maybe he wouldn't have missed so many games this year. He may never get back to his previous self.

This is also the same way I look at running QBs. Michael Vick didn't last long. What about RG3? I don't expect Lamar Jackson to be around very long either. Same with Kyler Murray. Even that hulk, Cam Newton, became a shadow of his best self because of the terrible hits he took. If the QB seriously wants to play for a decade or more, then staying away from the big hits is very important.

But I doubt that would happen. Seeing Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray smoothly glide by the defense, juke them and leave them gaping, is a thing of beauty. Short-lived, but still wonderful to see. This is entertainment after all!

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Swisch's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:58 pm

Excellent analysis, PewAuKee, in my opinion.
It's sad that many of the most scintillating performers have the shortest duration, like the Kansas Comet, Gale Sayers.
Also, I agree in liking the running back by committee as a way of preserving guys and keeping them fresh (like catchers in baseball).
The dynamic duo of Jones and Williams has been terrific, and it's sad to think of them both probably leaving so very soon.

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Cheesey51's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:08 pm

MLF appears to use Jones and Williams the same way he uses his WR's. They all play to fit the play being called. A true team effort. Packers offense is fluent with play count designed to keeps it RB and WR fresh and playing at peak level THeir is no comparison to the old workhorse mentally of the Panther RB and Vikings RB. Both have injury histories related to their work load and will wear down eventually leaving both teams stuck with high salaries to gut and little cap space
RG3 was allowed to play in a playoff hurt by a stupid owners demand and it ruined his career.
Salarywise/Making History/Legacy: I hope the packer RBs WAY that the benefits of playing for less but guaranteed money offers them the legendary chance to play for a winner and a potential SB appearance every year

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Stroh's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:45 pm

The problem is those running QBs who are great athletes never push themselves in HS or college to develop the ability to win with their arms. They use their natural athleticism and running ability to win. By the time they reach the NFL, its too late to develop the passing ability someone like Rodgers had to learn early. Hsd this conversation with a buddy, but Jackson is a hit away from being a backup QB, just like RG3.

That's not even bringing into consideration the ability to read defenses.

No running QBhas ever won a SB. It might happen eventually but it would be an anomaly. I hope the Packers never make the mistake of drafting a Jackson esque QB.

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murf7777's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:00 am

Stroh, I'd argue Russell Wilson is a running QB. I agree on your analysis thou! Most of the running QB's have under 60% career completion percentage. I also remember on this board when everyone was touting Cam Newton as the next greatest when he was winning the MVP I stated, and was down voted, that he is a "flash in the pan". My reasoning was because Cam had career sub 60% completion rate. One of the prerequisites to being a great QB is to complete a higher % of passes. A running QB will slow down sooner then later and have to live on his throwing abilities and if those abilities are sub-par, they will fade away.

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 02:11 pm

You would be mistaken. Wilson runs to buy time a la Rodgers, not to necessarily gain yardage. He's far more like Rodgers than Jackson.

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murf7777's picture

December 18, 2020 at 05:32 pm

I don't believe I'm wrong and the stats back it up. The most rushing attempts Rodgers attempted is 67 and most years much less. Wilson on the other hand averaged over 100 attempts per year his first 4 years. His last three years he is averaging around 70 which is the one year record of Rodgers. You don't see Rodgers running an RPO very often, but with Wilson he does it frequently. There is a big difference. Wilson has been very smart about getting hit thou, unlike Newton.

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 07:42 pm

Well you might not believe it, but you are wrong. Wilson mostly uses his legs to extend plays. Like Rodgers. He does run more often but he's buying time. They rarely if ever have designed runs by Wilson. He's using his legs to extend plays, so he can throw. Use you eyes, stats don't mean crap.

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December 19, 2020 at 07:04 am

You obviously don’t remember Wilson’s early years where they had designed option plays for him. Certainly it is much less at this point of his career. He never was a Vick or Jackson thou.

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December 18, 2020 at 09:50 am

"If RBs were wise, they would prefer less snaps with lower contracts" This comment makes sense, but the RB's don't have a say in how many carries they are going to get. Most teams will ride their stud as long as possible and then send them out to pasture. I agree with you on the running QB's, unless they are very accurate passers and smart runners as well, ala Wilson.

Regarding Jones, unfortunately, as much as us fans like him, it doesn't make financial sense to sign him. This is Jone's one opportunity to make his real money playing professionally. They drafted Dillon to be their next stud and over a very small sample size he showed he is ready to take the reins. They just don't have the money and even if they did, as the writer explained it doesn't make sense to put your big dollars into a RB. A very good to great O-line will make an average RB look like a very good one. Put your money in the line and the RB's position becomes a dime a dozen.

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Coldworld's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:17 am

Vick actually lasted quite a while, just made himself unavailable for a large portion due to is off field misadventures. Steve Young was a different era, but very mobile and he lasted.

I think the problem is when a QB runs as regularly as some of the more recent examples it tends to be a central part of his game and that means if injury removes it, can he function in pocket. Young and, to a lesser extent, Vick could. Vick maybe closer to the border line, but if one wouldn’t take the QB minus his running, the lesson seems to be don’t pay too much or draft hoping for longevity. So I agree.

That said, does it apply to Jones. Unlike a QB he sees the field for maybe 20 snaps a game, far different from older style runners too. Of those, some are passing, some decoy and he can but seldom is charged with heavy blocking. Arguably, he may have a lot more mileage than traditional RBs and run first QBs.

Jones may in fact last through to 30 easily. An injury can of course end matters rapidly for anyone, but he is simply not exposed as much or in the same way as a running QB or an old fashioned every down running back.

Doesn’t mean that I think we will resign him. Just that I wouldn’t be too concerned about the risk of doing so if a deal could be reached realistically. Sadly, I doubt that scenario will come to pass. I think Jones’ agility, ability to make holes and burst by is going to be difficult to replicate and adds another dimension to our O, despite the fact that I do not see him as a candidate for an every down back. In that role I’d agree that the chances are he wouldn’t last. Maybe that’s the challenge. His value is as a very valuable piece not a single solution at his position. He probably doesn’t see it that way.

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December 18, 2020 at 07:43 pm

I agree with you. Just to be clear, Jones is averaging 38.7 snaps/game and 18 touches with 14.54/game from rushing. So far, he has played in 51 games and averaged 14.35 touches per game.

As running backs go, Jones does not have much wear. I do see that he broken tackles per touch was much better in 2019 than in 2020, and a bunch of his broken tackles came on one play in 2020. Still, I see him avoid tackles this year as well, and I am a sucker for vision and the ability to cut to avoid defenders.

Normally I would suggest that teams can get out of contracts after two seasons with just moderate pain, and after three with very modest dead money. Given the covid cap, I am not sure that will be the case for an extension for Jones.

Unlike Murf, I am not sold on Dillon but he has time to change my mind.

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December 18, 2020 at 11:52 am

(1) Jones signed an aggressive agent (Rosenhaus) who is known for getting top dollar for his clients.
(2) The Packers will have to cut players just to get to the cap much less have cap room to resign a big contract player.
(3) The Packers spent a #2 draft choice last year on a RB (Dillon).
(4) The Packers will likely have 10 draft choices this year due to comp picks for Bulaga, Matinez, and Fackrell. They have the draft capital to find other RBs.

Jones isn't coming back. Williams may not be either.

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December 17, 2020 at 03:44 pm

Armchair GM Analysis: Aaron Jones gets a 2 year contract with signing bonus with low guaranteed salary. Jones also has value for his ability as a receiver should his effectiveness as a runner suffer a steep, sudden decline. He and Rosenhaus may be seeking more $/yrs in which case he will go elsewhere. As for the draft, DL, ILB, corner, and RB is the current priority.

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PeteK's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:26 pm

Getting a new agent doesn't bode well for him coming back ( 4 for 40 mill 25 signing bonus ) anything more would be a no sign in my opinion. Then I would sign Bell, who is still young, rested, and would take a 2 year incentive based contract.

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Stroh's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:50 pm

4 yrs 40M is crazy! I wouldn't give him much more than Eckler type money. 4 yrs 24M. Maybe up to7M average, not more!

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Stroh's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:47 pm

Jones would never accept that type of contract. He probably should but he won't.

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Coldworld's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:24 am

Probably shouldn’t either in a sport where you may only get one chance at up major money. If that’s a market he can sustain, really can’t keep him. Classic example of set our value on him and refuse to budge. If someone else differs, then we walk away, if not then he will come back.

I suspect that’s why he has hired his new agent. I suspect that means that he wants every snap elite starter money and the Packers don’t see him as on a par with Rodgers/Adams/Bakh. Much as I like him, I agree if so. We are going to have to see if a high cap space team is willing to buy at such a price.

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GregC's picture

December 17, 2020 at 09:50 pm

A two-year contract, even if it was high-paying, would be an epic fail for Jones and his agent. I expect him to get at least a four-year contract.

Unlike the author, I lean toward signing him, even if it's expensive. I don't think he has taken anywhere near as many hits as most of the other RBs who were mentioned. I think he probably has a few good years in him. Just don't have him run those wheel routes where he gets crushed after making the catch.

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NitschkeFan's picture

December 17, 2020 at 03:51 pm

Good summary Ken. I think we'd all love to keep Jones if possible. I think the argument can be made that he is not easily replaceable because of his versatility.

But the salary cap and the truth that he can be "mostly" replaced at much cheaper cost means we will lose him.

Lets enjoy AJ this season and worry about the offseason after the February celebration.

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TarynsEyes's picture

December 17, 2020 at 03:55 pm

I cannot help but sense that the likelihood of McCaffery not playing is a loss for GB as to getting the run defense some needed game tape to aid them come playoffs. Sure, the Titans will serve up some Henry, but I wonder also about that as their playoff seeding may likely be sealed this week with either a wildcard or Division with a single home game the best they can achieve, which may have them using Henry to a lesser degree.

These two games would have been great for GB to figure out and possibly mend what ails them in the run game defense. The upside is that neither, especially the Titans, will offer much in denying GB a clear path to the one seed. Though I wonder, would the lost of the one seed pay off more for GB getting a better grip and focus against the run, or is the expectation of them out scoring the opponent the better path to the SB.

As to who to sign, who leaves regardless, and obvious salary cap issues, this season looks all the more like a 'SB or Bust' season. This team being very different next year is a near certainty, as will the odds of them getting near the SB chance of this season.

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PeteK's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:14 pm

They'll will be drafting low, but that's ok because all the main positions are filled with very good players. So a second CB, DL, RT etc.. could be filled with the upcoming draft, which could make this team an even better SB contender.

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Swisch's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:52 pm

Good stuff, Taryn.
Going against McCaffery and Henry would have been good tests for our defense in preparation for the playoffs.
Also, just about whenever the Packers have a season this good -- and with so many variables with any NFL team from year to year -- it's urgent to really go for the Super Bowl win.
If we could do it in 2010 as champions, we can do it this year.
Come playoff time, it's time to stop putting as much emphasis on our weaknesses, and to start thinking about ways we can pull out each game.
I'm going to try to truly cherish the ride, starting Saturday night.

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 17, 2020 at 06:35 pm

All Gas, No Breaks...

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Cheesey51's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:13 pm

These next 3 games the defense needs to show a heavy dose of 3 players on defense: Martin and Barnes and Vernon Scott(for Ravene Greene)
We need rookies to sink or swim in these next few games in preparation for the playoffs.
The thought of Kirskey trying to cover t hat big TE from Tampa in the endzone is way too much of a nightmare

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December 17, 2020 at 10:08 pm

Kirksey needs to sit. You are right about that. Give the kids some reps.

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Philarod's picture

December 17, 2020 at 09:25 pm

Good thinking, but I'd rather we have easier chances to win.
If it's a choice between an easier shot at the #1 seed or more chances for the D to prepare for an elite back (Kamara? Cook, if Vikes get in? Who else?), I'll take the easier path...and an extra week of rest and prep.

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December 18, 2020 at 06:26 am

I get it, the run defense is a weakness. The coaches have analyzed this,as every KPI. The strategy remains the same. Use your strength, the offense, to force the opponent into a passing game. Whether it Henry or Davis. it doesn't change. I would say the real threat isn't the run but coverage, mainly in the middle of the field. Of course scheme and personel will be impacted greatly by game situation. The players just playing better is the biggest factor in them improving. Preston, Clark, Z, Lowery, ILB, DBs less Jaire,Savage, Greene and Amos. To a player the ones cited are lower than previous year and / or are graded below average in Tackling and run defense by PFF. Keke and Lancaster have improved. And PFF seems to be dead on the way we all agree. Run defense is not their strength. Keep getting more snaps to the young guys to be best prepared to lean on them come playoff time.

If A Jones leaves the Packers RB unit will most likely decline. He is that good and currently underpaid. Yet to the article and posters points, it's just not responsible to the team to pay big RB contracts. Plus they have a stud rookie prospect, built for this scheme, with a year of learning under his belt, very limited damage under all under a 4 yr rookie contract to boot.

compounded with a tough cap situation. Due to in part securing two of your most talented players, who play much higher valued positions, just this year.Big contracts to secure elite QB, WR and Edge. The List goes on. They have some studs that you may want to extend next year or so. These are the issues teams have when the do a good job acquiring young talent through drafts and FA,s. All with terrible draft positioning.
PS -I would lay a high probability of the Packers having a better team next year than this year on Paper. Why wouldn't anyone is my question.

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Coldworld's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:41 am

Do we need the test? If so of what? In my view the real value of the test has already been seen earlier, when these match ups might have made the conclusion inescapable that Pettine has no solution. The likelihood is continued use of a light front and avoidance of multiple ILBs. Painful. We win only through the offense getting points and squeezing out the run.

Earlier, we had a chance to remove Pettine and play heavier, getting players experience prior to the playoffs. I think that window has elapsed. If Pettine takes on Henry as I fear he will, the value of confirming that he should have been removed is of little comfort. We don’t need more than one elite running back to confirm that. Conversely, we don’t need 2 to allow Pettine to confound my lack of faith in him. We won’t contain Henry with how he has operated to date, except if our Offense does it alone.

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Since'61's picture

December 18, 2020 at 11:01 am

Taryn, what ails the Packers run defense the most is poor tackling. The next biggest ailment is the failure of our defenders to shed their blocks. Pursuit is also a factor as we have seen too many plays where defenders are standing around and watching.

Now with Green out our run defense is even further hampered. I don’t know if Pettine plans to use Rush or not but with Winn out he should get some snaps especially against the Titans. Pettine should also show a 5 man front at least early in the game against the Titans. Another option would be run blitzes. But again any or all of these approaches are negated with poor tackling. Let’s get beyond the Panthers first. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 02:24 pm

Greene being out means runD will improve if they use a LB in his place, ehich they should. Who stands up better a 200 lb Safety or 230+ lb LB. Come on man!

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fastmoving's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:30 pm

Dont now if I saw such a special kind of RB before. He is more important to our offence that some may believe. I would try to keep him somehow.....

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Swisch's picture

December 17, 2020 at 05:23 pm

A rare combination of quick elusiveness, breakaway speed, and impressive toughness.
What a pleasure it has been to watch Aaron Jones as far as both his style and substance!

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December 17, 2020 at 08:58 pm

He's really good but there are literally a dozen or more RB that can do what Jones does. And more will be coming in the next draft.

Having Rodgers as his QB makes him seem better than he is. Teams game plan to stop Rodgers far more than to stop Jones. He's usually running against 6 or at most neutral box.

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Thegravedigger's picture

December 17, 2020 at 10:10 pm

He just seems to find the sticks when nothing is there. The eagle and 49er game especially. Turning 1 yard runs into 5 yrd runs.

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December 18, 2020 at 07:51 pm

Yup, that's the issue. I watched Gayle Sayers, Brockington and Lane, Ahman Green and some others (Dorsey Levens and Edgar Bennett were at least darn good), so I don't think Jones is that special. But he is damn good and does things the Grants and the Jamaal Williams' (who I like a lot) just can't do.

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Swisch's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:40 pm

aLass, this column on Aaron Jones has me thinking that signing him isn't going to happen, and for reasons that are not beyond my Ken.
After all, this analysis seems devastating as far as the perils of signing running backs to a huge second contract. I'd almost bring this column to negotiations with Jones to tell him why we can't give him the kind of money these others received so recently -- even though we love the guy and his game.
I'd be glad to pay him $11 million with the franchise tag, or to risk $20 for a two-year contract -- but with Drew Rosenhaus as his agent, it doesn't seem those would be agreeable terms.
I hope the players know that fans like me really do get attached to them as people, and care about them. In a way, I really do love these guys.
It's sad to see them go, but sometimes unavoidable. I pray them all the best

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jannes bjornson's picture

December 17, 2020 at 06:49 pm

A good year for RBs coming out in '21. Etienne from Clemson. I thought they may bag Edwards-Hillaire last draft after all the top WR s were selected, but had Love higher on the board. I have no complaints, I like Love as the New Guy down the road or trade value if he shows and Rodgers stays Healthy. With Rosenhaus A.Jones will not take the Garage Sale special from Packertown.

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Since91's picture

December 17, 2020 at 04:52 pm

No way Jones is let go!
You do not let good football players go end of story period!
You let Lowry, Kirksey, Wagner, Scott, P. Smith and Jackson go before A. Jones is let go!
The Packers have the cap figured out...relax.....do not forget about the massive jump the cap is going to take once fans are back in the stands next year!
Back load his contract and win two Super Bowls in a row!
There are plenty of guys in this team who will be let go before Jones!

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Swisch's picture

December 17, 2020 at 05:05 pm

I gave you a thumbs up, Since91, because my heart says yes.
Sadly, the enormous weight of the reasoning overrules, and says most probably not.

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December 18, 2020 at 06:45 am

I hope the cap jumps but it won't next year and please don't backend load a 4 yr RB contract. That is a cap killer.

The guys you named are under contract and could be cut to save money, some will need to be replaced with either someone on the roster or a contract of the same or more, don't forget any dead cap space you will obtain by cutting them.. So how much you save could be negligible. Wagner and Scott, Jackson are Cheap, Lowey isn't breaking the bank.

Jones is a Free agent looking to obtain his biggest contract. 4 years min - Avg 15Mil or more per year with a high percentage paid out in signing Bonus and front end salary. What he ends up with may not come close but if so, he won't be happy. The offense is already elite. The defense could probably use any savings for FAs as well. Wouldn't hurt to save some for jaire who is going to break the bank.

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Befuddled's picture

December 18, 2020 at 08:41 am

Lowry can be replaced with a draft pick, Preston Smith can be replaced by Gary and Kirksey can be replaced by either Barnes, Martin or a draft pick. That may be enough cap savings to resign Jones. All 3 of those defensive starters aren't worth what they are getting based on performance. IMO

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December 18, 2020 at 11:56 am

I think the Packers may have to cut P. Smith, Kirksey and Lowery just to get to the cap limit. They will need to cut more to afford Jones.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 18, 2020 at 07:59 pm

And extend Adams while restructuring AR yet again.

Ken Ingalls has made a plausible case for the 2021 cap being more than $175M, but not close to this seaon's cap of $198.2M. He suggested $185M or so. That would help, but the FO would have to be aggressive in their thinking (that is, more all-in) to keep most of their RFAs and UFAs.

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 02:52 pm

Maybe so, but its still a bad investment. You have to take emotions out ogethese decisions!

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December 18, 2020 at 06:07 pm

Agreed but who's going to replace Gary? There might be someone, but not a average or above Edge 3-4 LB, I agree they won't sign a FA.
Kirksey plays a position we all decry as a neglected and a key reason for poor run defense and middle of the field pass coverage. Barnes is graded out very low, sure he made a few plays but overall he has not played well. Martin is certainly a good prospect but not really thought of as a strong 3 down ILB. The biggest factor to me is how young and inexperienced that crew will be w/o Kirksey or a FA. If drafting a serious prospect to play 3 downs, run the defense, start as a rookie and make a positive impact your odds drastically decrease after round 1, maybe early rd 2. totally agree that you can't pay those guys what they are currently making.
Agree on Lowry. keke, Lancaster and Clarke can all, take some of his reps and hopefully they do draft a strong NT, 1 tech to open things up for the rest of the guys. One dimensional IDL can be found in rd 3.
The packers have to find a good #2 outside CB through FA or the draft. That's a rd 1 maybe early 2 commitment.

Now if they had time to develop maybe you could find gems in later rds but when you're looking for immediate impact probabilities plummet after The first couple of rds and even worse for a team like the Packers who will have very poor rd selection.
Tonyan might cost your a few bucks as well.

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Coldworld's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:38 am

I’d let Lowry go happily, but I still need to replace him. Jones doesn’t play those positions. P Smith alone won’t do it. Reality is it’s probably down to his expectation of value and whether that materializes. If it does, we prioritized Bakh and made our bed: he is gone.

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stockholder's picture

December 17, 2020 at 05:13 pm

Lot of Good stuff in this Article. 1. Arron Jones is running to hard lately. Ervin has changed how this club thinks. It's called Speed to the outside. BG drafted his power runner. He's asking more then they can afford. He's Gone. 2. MVS- He's going to be the Field stretcher this club needs. Can you say #2 WR. Pro Bowl, Yes It's a joke. The bigger joke is the money these guys sign for. #3. 2021 BG won't do anything that makes sense. The problem: When you think your always Right. Your usually wrong! #4 Packers by 2 TDs.

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mbpacker's picture

December 17, 2020 at 05:47 pm

Great article. Lots to unwrap. We fans get emotionally attached to our players; especially stars like Jones. However, it's business decisions from both the player and management sides. There isn't that emotional sentiment that we fans have although, there is a lot of respect I'm sure. I remember a reporter at Packer.com a few years ago that said the priority topic of discussion, outside of their football, is money and contacts; after all it's their lively hood. I would love to see Jones stay too. The classic approach to negotiation and compromise is that both sides get some of what they want but not all. It takes both sides to make it work. I would love to hear these negotiations going on. I am sure it gets complicated. Hope it works out some how. Go Pack Go!

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December 17, 2020 at 06:35 pm

For what Aaron Jones deserves and will want, and considering we have a RB with high potential sitting on the bench, I don't want Jones back. I want him to get PAID. But I don't think the Packers will, or should be the ones paying 15m AAV to him. :(

I hope he goes to the AFC. :(

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CheesyTex's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:23 pm

Rosenhaus wants Rosenhaus to get max $, so unfortunately you're right on.

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canadapacker's picture

December 17, 2020 at 07:08 pm

I was hoping that Jones would be re-signed. I had even posted that I thought that he would kind of given the Pack a home team discount - by that I mean maybe have signed a 1 year contract that paid him but didnt kill the team's cap. However I think that we can toss that out of the window with him signing on with Drew R. ( totally despise the guy and most of his notable clients present and past - TO , A Brown , Warren the Sapp and Chad Ocho Chinko Johnson) . However now I guess that he should just go onto the market and get paid. I mean TT had to let some good Olinemen go in his first years with the Pack and that worked out. There are only a few Frank Gores, Adrian Petersons, Franco Harris's and Emmit Smiths who can last in the league forever. So we have Williams and perhaps we will find another gem later in the draft next year. So now I think that we just let things play out - maybe he might just want to come back if we dont win it all this year and if we do he should be paid all that he can get.

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Leatherhead's picture

December 17, 2020 at 07:26 pm

Do yourself a favor and go to pro football reference.com (if I knew how to post links, I’d do it).

Look up the RBs who lead in total yardage. Top four are Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, Alvin Kamara and the guy in Jacksonville. All 25 or26. Jones is #12 overall, about #6 among RBs. He’s 26.

Look and tell me how many 27, 28, 29 year old RBs are producing at a level that would make a multimillion $$$ contract a good deal for the team. I looked. I would much, much rather use a productive bargain on a rookie contract than spend millions on an older back. Check for yourself.

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December 18, 2020 at 08:12 am

You’re right on, spend your money on linemen who will make an average back look good.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

December 18, 2020 at 08:08 pm

Yup.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/rushing.htm#rushing_an...

Just go to the site, copy the URL, and paste it anywhere in the comment box to make a link. One link per comment, IIRC.

If you edit later, things will go haywire. Make your edit. Remove the link. Submit. Edit again and put the link back in. CHTV won't let the same link appear twice to prevent spam.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:13 pm

The good news is the Packers have had a good relationship with Jones' new agent. The Bad news is there is simply not enough Cap space and too many current player contracts up. Packers going to lose some really productive players. Cap Man wins. Cap Man always wins....

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Stroh's picture

December 17, 2020 at 08:36 pm

I've commented numerous times on about every platform available about Jones. I like him plenty but resigning him is a big risk. I keep pushing for a team friendly 4 yr 24M contract similar to Eckler. If he wants more let him test the market. He's very good, not great.

I think the Packers would like him back to pair with Dillon. But that will only happen if Jones takes the number the Packers want.

I don't like his new agent either, that dude is a jack azz. Packers need to stick to their number. If he leaves so be it. The Packers then would likely invest a 3rd or 4th rd pick for a similar RB.

As much as anyone likes Jones he's largely successful because Rodgers is his QB and teams game plan to stop Rodgers far more than they do Jones.

My guess is his new agent forces him out of GB, by pushing for the moon and the stars and the Packers won't budge!

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December 18, 2020 at 08:37 am

Stroh,

Very much agree, I'm a BIG AJ fan but I don't see how we can afford much more than the Eckler deal and I don't think that will get it done either.

Thinking ahead, as much as I don't like to say it, I believe its smarter to draft another back and save the $$$ for extending Jaire.

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December 17, 2020 at 09:39 pm

So we finally get an exciting,dynamic and productive RB after many years and we can't keep him. It's like having to give back a Christmas present. Was looking. forward to him and Dillon at some point, even if it means losing Jamaal the next year.

I'll keep.my hopes up.

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Coldworld's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:47 am

I feel the same, but the thought came into my head, if I had a voice of Jones or Ahman Green at the same age, which one would I take? I am unable to escape the fact that, however much I love watching Jones, I have to say Green. Jones is a luxury not a Henry.

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 03:00 pm

Get over it. What are you upset cuz your Jones jersey willbe obsolete!

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SpikeHyzer's picture

December 17, 2020 at 09:47 pm

Sign Jones.
Biggest needs are CB, DL, ILB and EDGE.
I might even go all defense in the next draft, except we should develop some OL talent (it's about equal in priority to the Safety group). Maybe a back.
Dillon and Deguara should be back and the receiver group is getting better. I like the offense going forward, whether we keep Jones or not.

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December 17, 2020 at 10:14 pm

The one difference between jones and most star rbs is that he barely has any miles on him. Yes. He has some injury history. Minor stuff. All backs get banged up. But jones has been sharing the load with jamal from the start. I dont see him flaming out in 2 years like some of the others. I definitely dont see him gaining 60 lbs and turning into eddy lacy. Pretty bad comparison.

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December 17, 2020 at 10:49 pm

We've already signed Bahk and Clarke. Who is it we so desperately need to sign rather than Jones?... King, who is injured a lot and is a slightly above-average CB?... Linsley, who is great but we have a couple of good replacement players? Letting Jones go means you have to pick a RB so you're losing a draft pick. Let go of King, P. Smith, Kirksey, I don't know who else, but I don't see why letting go of the 3rd best offensive player on a #1 ranked offense is a good idea. Again we make things harder for Rodgers instead of easier.

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Tundraboy's picture

December 17, 2020 at 11:05 pm

I keep going over the same things in my mind. There is a way.

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 03:05 pm

Sure there's a way. But its not smart business to sign RB to big 2nc contracts. Get it thru your head!

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December 18, 2020 at 08:18 pm

Not arguing. But GB needs to sign RFAs Tonyan, Sullivan, Greene, Lancaster, Redmond, and Boyle, or at least some of them. Price is $4.8M for a first or more likely $3.5M or so for a 2nd round tender. I think GB does not tender Boyle and just signs him for $1M or so, and maybe they do something like that with a few more. GB might sign Tonyan long-term. They need to replace Lewis and sign one of Austin/Ervin. If not King, they better find a starting perimeter CB somewhere.

The RFAs aren't desperate needs, precisely, but they are good young players who aren't expensive yet.

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December 17, 2020 at 11:30 pm

I think Jones falls into the Martinez/Bulaga category, would love to keep him but the money he will be offered on the open market is more than the Pack can allocate to that position. Love Jone’s attitude and play but I feel he will move on as the cap drop will make Williams the best value for the Pack plus the draft

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December 18, 2020 at 09:24 am

When I heard Rosenhaus I thought, "Thanks Aaron Jones and good luck on your career elsewhere."

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Minniman's picture

December 19, 2020 at 01:59 pm

I’ve mused on this topic for a while now and in part almost congratulate Rashan Gary for starting his own agency and representing himself (sure, this is extremely risky and is yet to play out - so I may eat crow on my statement).

But I see some great young footballers, in appropriate schemes on teams with complimentary coaches for them, blow it all up.

At this stage in his career, Le’Veon Bell should be being spoken of in terms of a yellow jacket and bust in canton.

Bad advice from people being paid to act in a players best interests is actually derailing their careers and potential .

This is possibly a question for TGR, with his superior contract knowledge, but what consequence is there for an agent when a player blows up at their new club? Is it like in private enterprise where if the hire is a dud and gets cut inside of probation then the agent pays back part of the commission?

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December 19, 2020 at 06:21 pm

Not really a CBA or cap/contract question, but agents get a percentage of a player's earning annually, as I understand things, and it is only 3% of salary maximum by NFL rule, 2% for franchise tags, and 1.5% for RFA tenders. In the average situation, the agent gets his percentage based on cash received by the player for each year, so if Preston Smith plays 2019 and 2020, the agent gets his cut, but if Preston is cut in 2021 the agent gets nothing for the millions left on the deal since the player never earned them. 3% of nothing is nothing.

Agents also get 10% to 20% of endorsement deals they negotiate, and many do PR, marketing, financial planning for players. For rookies especially, agents pay for all those trips and often for training leading up to the combine and pro days. Agents must have a master's degree or a law degree.

I am not sure if agents get a bad reputation for allowing players to sign with teams that turn out to be poor fits for the players. It would make sense that an agent who pushes for the most money rather than the best fit (both football and for the players' personal and family life) would get a bad reputation over time.

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December 18, 2020 at 09:40 am

yes, re-signing AJ is a big risk. And I'm sure they want Dillon to be "the" guy, beginning next year. Save the money and use it to keep Linsley. A great OL is the key to everything, Pick up 2 or 3 RBs later in the draft and in UDFA. Similarly, let King go and get a top CB in the draft.

Kirksey is too slow. Go with the rooks instead. Save the money. Maybe ditto for P Smith.

Total would save 40 MM less what you pay Linsley. if Linsley's back injury is going to be chronic, let him go too. There will be some great FA bargains in 21.

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December 18, 2020 at 10:15 am

Good article. I like Jones and Williams. The reality is GB spent a second round pick on a running back so if Jones and Williams are around next year then GB should have used that pick on an area of need instead of wasting it. Personally the little I have seen of Dillon makes me think he will be a heck of a NFL running back.

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Packers2020's picture

December 18, 2020 at 10:23 am

This may not be a popular opinion but here goes.

Release these players next year:

P Smith- Save 8M. He is inconsistent and not worth the money. Gary can replace him.
Kirksey- Save 6M- He cannot cover and is inconsistent and slow against the run. Barnes, Martin, and Summers are better.
Lowry- Save 3.3M- You can draft someone better.
Wagner- Save 4.25M- He has played well but someone has to go. And he is getting older.
Funchess- Save 1.3M- We know we do not need him.
Jackson- Save 1.3M- He is just not good enough to be on the team.
Burks- Save 1M- He has been a disaster.
Amos- Save 4.5M- He is an ok safety but I think he is expendable. Black is coming on and we have a few other young safeties that
will be fine.
Z Smith- Save 10.75M. I know this one will not be popular but he is inconsistent. Does not give 100% on every play, does not set
the edge, and is bad against the run. Draft someone to replace him.

Getting rid of these players on defense will not cause this defense to be that much worse, IMHO.

That is 22M in cap space. Sign Jones and Tonyan to keep the offense solid. Without Aaron Jones this offense is not the same. Maybe, even tag Jones for 13M for another year and see how injuries go. The cap goes up in 2022 due to TV revenue. Maybe then you can sign Jones if you want.

Then draft a ton of defensive players in the draft to fill gaps and add depth.

I would love to hear everyone's comments on this and get your thoughts.

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December 18, 2020 at 10:32 am

Pretty, pretty good.

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December 18, 2020 at 01:04 pm

Release ZDS? No! He's saved our hides plenty with timely plays. Not comfortable with losing Amos yet, either. The rest of them--okay; a few of them are foregone conclusions, anyway.

Three comp picks, so we should be able to add some good extra depth/better ST players.

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December 18, 2020 at 12:30 pm

"That is 22M in cap space"

I think your math needs some work yet.

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Packers2020's picture

December 18, 2020 at 12:41 pm

We are 17M in the hole after Baks contract, Jeremy.

Look it up on Spotrac.

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December 18, 2020 at 04:41 pm

Ok that's if the NFL and PA don't agree to a one time deal to avoid a big cap dip. I think they will work something out.

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flackcatcher's picture

December 19, 2020 at 02:50 am

League is in give back territory on TV contracts after last week's games. By the way that is automatic, built into the contracts if the ratings go below a certain point. Both the NFL, and NFLPA better hope this is a one time black swan event, otherwise...

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Leatherhead's picture

December 18, 2020 at 12:34 pm

Yes, let’s make as many holes in the roster as possible. I mean, we’re only looking at back-to-back 13 win seasons. Obviously, every draft pick and free agent will stay healthy and play better than the person they replaced. It’s obvious that our personnel department doesn’t know anything.

Sheesh.

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December 18, 2020 at 12:34 pm

Yes, let’s make as many holes in the roster as possible. I mean, we’re only looking at back-to-back 13 win seasons. Obviously, every draft pick and free agent will stay healthy and play better than the person they replaced. It’s obvious that our personnel department doesn’t know anything.

Sheesh.

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December 18, 2020 at 12:43 pm

This Defense sucks, Leatherhead. And everyone knows it.

If we want to continue to have a problematic D with lazy players then yes by all means keep those high priced guys.

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December 18, 2020 at 02:05 pm

No, it doesn’t. It’s actually average to above average in most regards.

We will lose Kenny King and Montravious Adams. That’s two holes. If you release Lowry, P. Smith, and Kirksey that makes 5 holes, just on defense. I know you think we can draft some Day 3 guys who will be upgrades but I’m reasonably certain our personnel people are smarter than that.

“Everyone knows it”. I’m old enough so that I understand what a colossal pile of shit that is. I remember when everyone knew blacks weren’t as smart as whites, everybody knew women weren’t as capable as men, everybody knew that smoking cigarettes was good for your health because it helped relieve stress.

So frankly, I don’t give a shit what everybody knows. I’ll look at the facts and think for myself. You should try it.

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Stroh's picture

December 18, 2020 at 03:10 pm

IT IS NOT SMART BUSINESS TO SIGN RB TO BIG 2ND CONTRACTS! Get it thru your head, for the love of God.

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December 18, 2020 at 03:29 pm

I agree with half that list.

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Since'61's picture

December 18, 2020 at 12:11 pm

I would try to keep A. Jones. He makes this offense goes and keeps the Packers defense off the field. Opposing DCs need to account for him on every play. Also, he helps keep Rodgers clean because we can run the ball more often and more effectively.

I realize that we are likely to get outbid but I would make a decent offer on a 3 year deal with a 4th year option. I can name quite a few RBs who have lasted longer than 4 or 5 seasons in this league and who have remained very effective players thoughout their careers.
Thanks, Since ‘61

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December 18, 2020 at 12:27 pm

11 Life paths Akers, Dobbins, Gibson were the RBs I was hoping Gute was considering in the draft. Swift has shown flashes when healthy, but being a 7 life path, injury is no stranger. This is much more relevant to the RB position given the constant wear and tear. So rule of thumb: avoid 7 LP path RBs. We're all die hards here...think of a few RBs that are often injured...

MOSTERT, RAHEEM
GURLEY, TODD
FOURNETTE, LEONARD
CONNER, JAMES
MICHEL, SONY
YELDON, TJ
DAVIS, MIKE
AJAYI, JAY
MATTISON, ALEXANDER

-->all 7 life paths<--

you'll probably see these 7 LPs from the 2020 class repeat offenders in the future...

EDWARDS-HELAIRE, CLYDE
SWIFT, D'ANDRE
EVANS, DARRYTON
DILLON, A.J. (yes unfortunately)
DOWDLE, RICO

Re: Aaron Jones, if he is to be retained, I would not commit beyond the 2023 season as 2024 is year of the DRAGON, his enemy sign. Being a DOG, oppositional energy will manifest and likely wreck his 2024 in some form or another.

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December 19, 2020 at 10:54 am

Ok, which draftees in 2021 RB class will be friendly with the OX ?

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December 19, 2020 at 06:51 pm

Haven't begun 2021 draft class analysis yet Jannes...birthdates can be hard to come by for some of the athletes...usually more accessible after the combine in March.

I only have 3 players for 2021 currently due to the fact that they opted to return to college this past year...they're all 1 life paths--which usually showcase athleticism & leadership

SERMON, TREY RB TIGER
ETIENNE, TRAVIS RB TIGER
THOMPSON, ERROLL MLB OX

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