The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Vikings vs Packers

Aaron hands out the Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Green Bay Packers Week 8 loss to the Minnesota Vikings.

 

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Lphill's picture

October 29, 2023 at 06:22 pm

Just ugly the Green Bay Packers .

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sws105's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:00 pm

Dropped passes, penalties, not fighting for the ball, soft coverage, suspect play execution….no way any quarterback could make up for those deficiencies…….

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EricTorkelson's picture

October 30, 2023 at 01:45 pm

The Good ... Punter Daniel Whelan

The Bad ... Poor offensive schemes, using poorly designed escape screens almost on every pass play. Poor defense using undersized 3/4 and 2/4 fronts and then wondering why they cant stop the run.

The Ugly... Jordan Love, after 4 years of practicing and playing in the NFL he has shown terrible footwork, terrible second option recognition, poor accuracy, and very little confidence to be an effective leader.

My biggest problem with this pampered football team is its total lack of intensity, and toughness.. Like him or hate him when you had AR at quarterback you always had a chance of winning.. and this current uninspired group of holdovers new it...........

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

October 29, 2023 at 06:23 pm

Good - Preston Smith???

Bad - pretty much everything else. Defense, special teams, offense in general, Jaire Alexander, soft coverage, soft team, no killer instinct

Ugly - specifically the 1st half offense, the utilization of Aaron Jones, every coach on GB's roster, penalties, you can fill in the rest.

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NitschkeFromTheGrave's picture

October 29, 2023 at 06:36 pm

The Good:
This game may have bitch slapped the rose colored glasses off those in the front office along with many fans who have been on the Love wagon which has taken us to the basement with the Bears.

The Bad:
The Emperor has no clothes - MLF can regurgitate his confidence and support for Jorden Love while spoon feeding it to the press and blogs all he wants. Anyone watching the last 3 or 4 games can see, MLF is scared to death to call in a play allowing Love to pass more than 8 - 10 yards. The question is, "Is Love that bad or is Mr LeFluer that stupid?"
Fact - 24 of 41 and a passer rating of just over 72 ???? He has not been over 80 since week 3 against New Orleans, with the low of 32 against the loss to the Raiders.

Sorry Love supporters, time to abandon the wagon.

The Ugly:
Hello Bears, Is there room on that bench in the basement for us?

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SinceLombardi's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:27 pm

There. is no way Love gets benched as long as Gutekunst is here. He risked everything to get this guy. He will fire LaFluer before he benches Love.. and I hope he does. I think he sees this as either I get blamed for drafting bad players , or I buy more time and blame the staff.
I think there are several over rated players here.. Clark, Alexander, Campbell, Savage and Watson to name a few

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jannes bjornson's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:44 pm

Gutedkunst brought them ALL onboard. It's his squad. He owns this roster. If he didn't want the LaFeur package , he could have bailed. He's pulling in big coin along with the other members of the covenant. Six years for this guy. Time to go.

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Coldworld's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:11 pm

No, he very much could not have bailed. Murphy made it expressly clear, no involvement in coaching. Gute is in the same level as LaFleur and was hired by and reports to Murphy just like him.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:18 pm

Gutey can't fire MLF.

Ja is playing hurt.

Kenny Clarke has been overused for years, and is worn down from it.

Talking about #9 is silly. He's got how many more years on a rookie contract?

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Coldworld's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:09 pm

The only bandwagon I’m interested in is the one taking LaFleur and Murphy out of town.

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Pack66's picture

October 29, 2023 at 06:36 pm

I guess Aaron Rodgers was right about the Packers..

pity

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bottlefliper's picture

October 30, 2023 at 08:25 am

that was a good one. You mean Mr. Ivermetin, who is hurt on the first play of the season, because he is old and unable to move any fast? Or you mean the flatearther who lost every meaingfull game in his prime, even as he had more weapons than any other top QB? Or did you mean the guy who hates science and askes an idiot like Rogan for advice? Or did you meand the guy who bitching he will recover faster than anyone else, even if he may never comeback and not even with the help from science he hates so much? You mean the guy who is afraid of planes but not of weak lunatics?
Ok, its clear. Unjustified critic on a weak coward, who was a shame for Green Bay, who did nothing since 2011 and is now employed by Johnson and Johnson............

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Bitternotsour's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:28 pm

wow. i would correct one thing, he's employed by a johnson & johnson inheritor.

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jjbathgate66's picture

October 29, 2023 at 06:39 pm

Good? nothing really game is over I guess is good.
Bad, everyone just plays so dumb, not a bright group by any means.
Ugly truly ugly is the coaching, top to bottom, especially the guy that can't scheme on third down defensively. Time to pull the pin and blow it up. Bench Love as he does not have it trying to throw passes like AR from all angles sorry Jordan you are not AR try being you. Soft team coached by a soft staff, Quay Walker earning his money Gary, Preston Smith can get to the QB time start looking for new address.
Overrated defense. Red Sea parts when teams decide to run.

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SinceLombardi's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:17 pm

I would give Quay Walker some credit for hustle and effort, but he is far from effective.

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edp1959's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:07 pm

Packers are now number 6 in the draft order. One below the Bears, after tonight’s game we may be number 5.

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Packerlifer's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:12 pm

With 10 games to play the Packers’ chances of the Number One pick in the draft are real.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:21 pm

Obviously that is the goal of Mr Continuity.

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SinceLombardi's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:14 pm

Good: one less game to endure
Bad: Alexander.. he’s supposed to be all that.
Ugly : TJ Slayton celebrating a tackle down by 14 with 4:4O to play.
* I think the jury is in on Matt LaFluer. It’s obvious he is not the guy here in year 5. In his best years he blew back to back number 1 seeds. It’s not even a team at this point. Not very often a team has more penalties than points… at home.

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Starrbrite's picture

October 30, 2023 at 12:59 am

“More penalties than points”—excellent example.

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4thand1's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:36 pm

Good, nothing, except a top 5 pick in April
Bad, coaching.
Ugly, o-line.

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bleedgreen's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:51 pm

I was spared watching the game since I am in NJ, but I did see MLF post game press conference. He has no idea how to fix this. All he could do is reiterate and confirm everything that went wrong and was poorly executed. He has no answers. He is in way over his head.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:45 pm

Well that must have been horrible to watch. I watched entire game as always but I can not bring myself to see, hear or read any more of his sideshow reporting.

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:23 pm

I just figure MLF is trying not to tip his hand that he's gunning for the #1 pick.

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Tundraboy's picture

October 30, 2023 at 08:41 am

Let's hope he is that devious.

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stockholder's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:54 pm

Good - P. Smith for me.
Bad- Jordan Love- positively!
Ugly - Yes- penalties

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Starrbrite's picture

October 29, 2023 at 07:55 pm

The Hoculi officiating crew is the worst in football and mabe the worst ever. They over officiate/call every game.
Love couldn’t find his a$$ with two hands and a flashlight.
Running Dillon with less than 5 minutes remaining and needing two TD’s is pure genius.
Is there anything resembling an offensive scheme at Lombardi Ave?
Go Packers!!!

10 points
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Tundraboy's picture

October 29, 2023 at 09:08 pm

"Running Dillon with less than 5 minutes remaining and needing two TD’s is pure genius."

With any other owner that would have been the final nail. Not like he overused Aaron Jones earlier in the game. Or anyone else. Unbelievable.

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ImaPayne's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:16 pm

It was a trick to fool the vikings, or the fans, or the coaches, or the vendors?

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ImaPayne's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:15 pm

Packers did a lot of hard work to earn all those penalties. PS, The Vikes for five years were the least penalized team in football because they drafted smart people who could be coached to not make stupid ass mistakes.

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Starrbrite's picture

October 29, 2023 at 11:58 pm

Good point.
I’m shocked at the lack of situational awareness of the entire team—especially Love. No one, including the coaches, appear to have a clue what is critical on any given decision.

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TommyG's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:09 pm

The bad: offensive performance. There just isn’t a good part. So many of us thought having jones back would be The difference, and it wasn’t even a side note.

The Ugly: there is not a meaningful successful packer play that doesn’t involve a penalty - offense or defense.

The good: I left this for last because I wrote this with trepidation. Love sometimes makes some incredible moves and throws. I will caveat that by saying he has to move around a lot, and that his great throws are like 7 yards down field.

4 points
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sws105's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:12 pm

Dropped passes, penalties, not fighting for the ball, soft coverage, suspect play execution....no way any quarterback could make up for those deficiencies.......

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Rossonero's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:13 pm

I've picked the Broncos and Vikings to win over this broken team the past 2 weeks and the Packers never fail to disappoint in 2023.

Good: Nothing. I can literally think of nothing.
Bad: Play calling, O-line, Love forcing throws, lack of using Aaron Jones even though no injury designation
Ugly: 11 penalties, all the damn drops, 3rd down defense, sputtering offense, no rhythm, no fire, no passion

11 points
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Father Guido Sarducci's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:30 pm

Good: Punter Daniel Whelan had a great game.

Bad: Not having Aaron Jones run the ball.

Ugly: The overkill of Screen play usage, Jaire Alexander’s big mouth and his questionable play, no leadership, and dropped passes.

10 points
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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:28 pm

But they didn't have to get up before 10 AM. They weren't even awake in the first half.

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MikeS's picture

October 29, 2023 at 08:47 pm

Dropped passes on offense. Still trying the quick outs for 2 yards. When will Love do a 3 step drop and hit the quick slant ala Donald Driver. These receivers need to learn to stop in open zones and give Love a target. Defense wise, Barry has to go, he doesn't have a clue how to stop opposing teams Enough is enough!!!! Somebody on the management side, please have the balls to pull the trigger. The season is lost. For Gods sake, don't wait, make the change NOW!!!!

4 points
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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:30 pm

Mike Murphy is the only person who can do any of that. The Board needs to call an emergency meeting and retire him early. Immediately. Then Butkus.

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DocHoliday's picture

October 29, 2023 at 09:17 pm

All bad and ugly!!!

We have no way of knowing if Love could be good because of all the drops. Rodgers is right that Gutey has no idea what a good WR looks like. Even Aaron Jones lets a sure first down pass go through his hands to hit him in the helmet. WRs should be spending 2 hours every day working with the jugs machine, what the hell are they doing instead?

Once again proof that Walker should not have been starting as he draws another unacceptable penalty to kill the first quarter drive. They finally bench him and the offense looked better. Nijman was even running to help up RBs after they were talked. Walker is clueless. Unfortunately, Nijman had an injury.

Stenavich needs to be demoted to offensive line coach.
We need a real offensive coordinator. Someone who learns the Dolphins cheat movement.

Barry has to be fired immediately.

6 points
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tobinrote's picture

October 29, 2023 at 09:26 pm

where is croat packer fan. has he given up? i miss his posts

6 points
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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:31 pm

Green n Gold abandoned us several weeks back, too.

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Rarescope's picture

October 30, 2023 at 07:31 am

Maybe he realized that his constant ragging on ARod was unjustified.

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bottlefliper's picture

October 30, 2023 at 08:25 am

that was a good one. You mean Mr. Ivermetin, who is hurt on the first play of the season, because he is old and unable to move any fast? Or you mean the flatearther who lost every meaingfull game in his prime, even as he had more weapons than any other top QB? Or did you mean the guy who hates science and askes an idiot like Rogan for advice? Or did you meand the guy who bitching he will recover faster than anyone else, even if he may never comeback and not even with the help from science he hates so much? You mean the guy who is afraid of planes but not of weak lunatics?
Ok, its clear. Unjustified critic on a weak coward, who was a shame for Green Bay, who did nothing since 2011 and is now employed by Johnson and Johnson............

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Rarescope's picture

October 30, 2023 at 10:09 pm

Whatever dude I like my team to not suck and don’t come on the internet just to talk shit about my teams players. Much more fun to come here and talk shit about dumbasses leaving comments on anonymous fan sites.

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ImaPayne's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:13 pm

The Good- Watson streaking down the side line with a defender in step totally fooling the other team into thinking your actually throwing the ball deep. Bravo
Love not seeing anyone of his four receivers, two tight ends, or running backs open and running for the first down line, even though he doesnt know where its at. Bravo good show!

The Bad - Zairre Alexander trying to almost tackle and possible injuring his poor little back again

The Ugly - Knowing your season is over and its only game 8.

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Oppy's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:28 pm

The truly beautiful in a deep and meaningful way:

Knowing that the Vikings will ultimately shit the bed down the stretch, because that's what the Vikings do. They are, historically and forever more, "Perennial Bed Shitters."

It's what they do.

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Rarescope's picture

October 30, 2023 at 07:33 am

Wow back to back we have a guy making fun of someone with a back injury and a team that just lost their starting qb.

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Oppy's picture

October 30, 2023 at 06:44 pm

Wow, how does Kirk Cousins' injury have anything to do with my general statement about the Vikings?

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Tex49's picture

October 29, 2023 at 10:38 pm

Good - the game is over
Bad - Packers lost
Ugly - the game

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DanW's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:11 am

Good: With each of these losses the front office and the couching staff are being increasingly exposed for their failures.

Bad: The performance on the field of the players being managed and coached by this front office and coaching staff.

Ugly: Players' very short careers being consumed and wasted by the mediocrity of good-ole-boy coaching hires like Joe Barry, who infuses a relatively talented defensive unit with his weak character, lack of intelligence and lack of accountability.

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Phuketwilly's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:34 am

Lots of ugly. I love all the bench love GMs hilarious.

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mbpacker's picture

October 30, 2023 at 07:05 am

The Good: The game wasn't televised in my area so didn't watch it. Did listen to Wayne & Larry- at least they made it appear exciting.
The Bad: Such difficulty scoring in the 1st half.
The Ugly: Penalties!!!!!!!!!!!

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Greenandgoldmemories's picture

October 30, 2023 at 07:08 am

The Good: On defense, the front 7 played a helluva lot better than the back end.

The Bad: Fans need to stop hoping Aaron Jones has a bigger role in the offense. He’s old for a running back, and you can tell his legs are starting to go on him. Football is a brutal game on anatomy, especially running backs. Looking for lost love? Look no farther than Green Bay’s quarterback.

The Ugly: Jaire Alexander’s effort. All mouth, no muscle.

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Rarescope's picture

October 30, 2023 at 07:37 am

The good: watching the packers play
The bad: watching the packers play
The ugly: everyone here still calling for the firing of Joe Berry when our offense looks consistently this bad (even though our defense kinda sucks too)

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SicSemperTyrannis's picture

October 30, 2023 at 07:49 am

The D has been playing well enough to win games. Still playing beneath their talent, which is on JB. I'm thinking it's Butkus that should be shown the door first. Demote Stenovitch back to O line coach and MLF to OC and they might be ok. Is Rich Bisaccia HC material, even as the interim for the rest of the season? I don't see how this change could be worse.

Back to being realistic, nothing will change with Mike Murphy in. The Board needs to call an emergency meeting and retire Mr We Are Not Idiots immediately.

I wouldn't make a single player personnel change before at least this much is done, there's no way to evaluate any player with this chaos in control.

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bottlefliper's picture

October 30, 2023 at 08:30 am

The "critical thinker" is way more "Mr. we are not idots we drink Ivermetin thats wy we look like 100 years", if he never thunks anything. Thanks God Travis cleand up the floor with Johnsons broken old toy

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iamiz's picture

October 30, 2023 at 08:00 am

Too much ugly to go around, too little good. So I’ll keep it to three players to act as as archetypes.

Good: TJ Slaton - he was the disrupter that Clark is supposed to be.

Bad: Jaire Alexander - sure, the scheme doesn’t play to his strengths, but a corner that good shouldn’t be that easy to beat in any scheme.

Ugly: Christian Watson - great athlete, terrible receiver. Sure, he can run (except when he gets caught from behind) but he can’t run a proper route, can’t adjust for the ball, and has bad hands.

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jlc1's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:51 pm

Yeah, I think the other teams have stopped scheming to stop Watson. He is not much to worry about right now.

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MemphoMike's picture

October 30, 2023 at 08:22 am

After 7 games, I'm not quite ready to say it's time to move on from Love. I've seen quite a few QBs come thru this organization, yeah even before Majkowski,(!) and Love doesn't closely approach the bottom of that barrel. He needs a full season for a proper review but more than anything, consistent play around him. Yea, it's obvious that he misses open throws which is frustrating and that's where the test of time will tell if this is something that he cannot overcome. However, he has so many issues around him....the hapless OL, no running game, penalties all over the place, dropped balls, bad routes, not high pointing/fighting for balls.....sure Love has made some bone headed plays but the chaos around him cannot be ignored.

The only one who can correct this ship is MLF. His post game excuses are now falling on deaf ears. We've both seen and heard enough on excuses, it's now time for him to show us he is capable of taking the reigns and being the leader who gets this team back on track. This should have happened weeks ago and it's baffling why we are seeing more regression than progress.

Truth is, the fans have a large enough sample size from MLF to understand that his success is now looking like it's only bc he was riding the coat tails of a HOF QB. It's very concerning that he's not this offensive minded guru that we believed him to be. I hope I'm wrong about him, but we've hit a point where the team looks to be collectively lost and that's on the HC. Bottom line, it's now the bewitching hour.....and it's imperative that MLF drop the excuses....it's time for him to put up or shut up......

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davidhoff@mchsi.com's picture

October 30, 2023 at 10:13 am

I tend to agree with those who criticize MLF for the overall responsibility of football's on- field presentation. It's hard to peel the onion back farther, since all of the infractions are repetitive game to game. ST is kept in check with two good kickers, but that's about it.

Believe me when I say that I see nothing good to say about the product I've been following since the late fifties. Yes, I've seen bad teams before in GB, but I've never seen a team who just didn't seem to show up. Thats on MLF.

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jlc1's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:48 pm

Good- blocked field goal.

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Lambeau_Leo's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:52 pm

Good - Jordan Love played well, had zero help with 7 drops

The Bad - What happened to Christian Watson? He is supposed to be a game changing type player.

The Ugly - Will we win another game this year?

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jlc1's picture

October 30, 2023 at 02:55 pm

Two straight humiliations at home against division rivals. MLF should be stoking that fire but mostly he scratches his head. Where is the leadership?

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Rhah's picture

October 31, 2023 at 05:18 am

Good - blocked field goal!
Bad - Dropped passes. Love is struggling and the pass catchers are not helping.
Ugly - 15 yard penalties. Enough already.

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