The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Packers vs Bears

Aaron gives out his Good, Bad and Ugly from the Week 1 victory over the Bears. 

That's right. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is BACK. 

Here are mine. Give me yours in the comments. 

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NJMagic's picture

September 09, 2019 at 02:27 pm

Oh no! Can we go back to a text post. Love the column and video is challenging at work :-).

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:33 pm

Why not do the video and the normal text?

The text is like < 50 words.

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Mojo's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:17 pm

As far as the text, you can do what I do from time to time. Just hit the CC (closed caption) button with the sound off if you're at work. Can't guarantee the spelling is always the best, but you can figure it out.

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Hawg Hanner's picture

September 10, 2019 at 12:59 pm

geez no one writes, its all video. Hate it

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Gort's picture

September 09, 2019 at 02:47 pm

I agree with NJMagic. I like to read the posts while sitting next to my wife. She watches TV and I read. She couldn't care less about the "Packers sh_ _" (her word).

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Tundraboy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 02:55 pm

Ditto

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PackfanNY's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:10 pm

That’s grounds for divorce! LoL. Just kidding. Sort of?

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Gort's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:01 pm

41 + years married = cheaper to keep her.

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Spock's picture

September 10, 2019 at 09:56 am

42 years for me last month (August 27th). She's reads during the game but puts up with my, um, "constructive comments" I shout at the Television screen, lol. We put up with other, she more than me. :)

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BELIEVER's picture

September 09, 2019 at 02:56 pm

I agree

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I am Gute's picture

September 09, 2019 at 02:57 pm

Good: having a defense that can win us games
Bad: not sure our offense can do the same
Ugly: we won an away game against a division rival to open the season. Nothing too ugly in my opinion.

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Slim11's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:00 pm

I agree with the guard play and Taylor was worse then Turner. I think Jenkins will become the starter and at LG before RG.

The offense, overall, was bad but was also playing against a very good Bears defense. Clearly, the offense is a work in progress. Some of that work could have been completed during the preseason but the coaching staff chose not to do so. I understand some of the reasoning but still think getting the starters some live game action was necessary.

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GBPDAN1's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:08 pm

The good

Beat the Bears

No injuries

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bbarryirish's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:15 pm

Good/Awesome- Watching the defense and special teams excel! (What a treat)
Bad- Rodger’s continual war with the play clock.
Ugly- Nothing...we won!

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Mistergee5's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:23 pm

Good: The speed on defense. Jaire, Savage, King and Amos will have their share of takeaways this season. Also, we are flying under the radar. Most analysts seem to think the Eagles, Cowboys, Chiefs and Patriots will still be standing at the end.

Bad: Balanced approach? If the run gain fails, do not hesitate to air it out. Let Rodgers be Rodgers! We should go with the flow of the game, especially if the defense is stout.

Ugly: At some point this season, we will fall victim to the new rule changes. For instance, I love Hollman’s coverage potential, but he uses his hands a lot. I can see a couple of challenge flags thrown for pass interference. Hopefully, we will have a sizeable enough lead to overcome the refs. Go Pack Go!!!

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jeremyjjbrown's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:01 pm

You can use your hands more in College than the NFL. Jaire was pretty handsy to start last year too. I think he'll grow out of it.

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:51 pm

Wish they would change the rules back to resemble college.

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Guam's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:42 pm

Good: (1) We have a pass rush that can get home. (2) We have a punter that can change field position.

Bad: A running game that struggled against a very strong Bears defense.

Ugly: Our guard play. We've seen this movie before, like most of last year.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:16 pm

Nailed it.

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:17 pm

Every year there seems to be an area that needs some flexing. I’m sure all teams do. But, looks to be a good overall team. Go Pack!

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pacman's picture

September 09, 2019 at 03:43 pm

Bad - AR. Gonna keep putting him in bad column until he shows that he can change. No excuse WHATSOEVER to throwing a short pass at receivers feet just like last year. I'm guess he hasn't practiced that pass much. I'm tired of hearing him say "I've got to play better" while earning that much $.

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Since &#039;61's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:17 pm

So driving the team to the game’s only TD on 4 perfect passes plus driving for a key add on FG without a ground game, a porous interior OL (same as last season), one legit WR who was taken away by the defense isn’t good enough to overcome one underthrown ball.

What happens to the 18 completed passes plus no picks plus running for first downs and running to get Crosby close for the add on FG?

If Rodgers goes 18/30, 208 yards, 1TD and no Ints and we win the next 18 games, go 19-0 and win the SB l’d sign up for that right now. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Old School's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:53 pm

I think there were at least three under thrown balls. And some others that were just off target.

By most objective measures, Rodgers was an average NFL QB in Week 1. Not above average, not below average. Average.

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Since &#039;61's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:11 pm

That’s OK I’ll take average every week as long as we win. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Old School's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:43 pm

I don't mind average as long as he protects the ball. What I do mind is people smearing crap on the rest of the team so that average smells better.

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Samson's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:28 pm

Your comment makes no sense.
Have any "real specific examples" of the so-called 'smearing crap'?

I didn't think so....

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Old School's picture

September 09, 2019 at 10:04 pm

So when our line is described as porous....? Especially when it isn't, and wasn't last year either. With some people, it's always somebody else's fault when Rodgers struggles. Even Rodgers admitted after the game that he hadn't played that well.

You didn't think. I'm glad you can admit it

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Old School's picture

September 09, 2019 at 10:04 pm

So when our line is described as porous....? Especially when it isn't, and wasn't last year either. With some people, it's always somebody else's fault when Rodgers struggles. Even Rodgers admitted after the game that he hadn't played that well.

You didn't think. I'm glad you can admit it

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pacman's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:29 pm

I accept your critique of my post that AR wasn't really 'bad'. But missing these short throws has just got to stop and I don't want AR thinking that it's not a big deal as long as he makes bigger plays. The one off JG's foot/turf was almost a pick 6. I hope MLF or somebody can get through to him to get this fixed.

And the Packers aren't paying AR to be avg.

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Samson's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:31 pm

Maybe you should personally contact the Packer HC.... Maybe he missed it.... I'm sure he would thank you for the "heads-up".

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pacman's picture

September 10, 2019 at 08:29 am

"Give me a break!" We are all here just having fun playing tv coach of the Packers. I hope everyone here has a real life.

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:20 pm

Right on 61

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Oppy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:52 pm

Rodgers is, and always has been, one of the worst QB's in the league in terms of very short passes- let's say within 3 yards of the LOS. This includes screens, etc.

Zero touch(almost always a fastball), poor aim, throws at ankles and feet as the rule. I personally think he is so concerned about the chance of a pick-6 (if a defender gets a pick at that range, there's almost nothing between him and the end zone) that he consciously has made the decision to throw short passes where it's unlikely ANYONE will catch it, rather than giving the receiver the most catchable ball possible. The exception is those quick-hitters to the WR at the boundaries immediately at the snap if he sees off coverage. Otherwise, Rodgers is the worst extreme-short yardage passer in the league.

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Thegreatreynoldo's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:45 pm

As long as GB wins, I, too, don't care if the defense is good, bad, or indifferent. Ditto for the offense, and individual players. That is a results-oriented viewpoint. It isn't analysis.

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Oppy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 11:22 pm

Lots of thumbs down, but point me in the direction of all the game clips of Rodgers throwing those nice short passes over the last ten years to show me how wrong I am

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Difer's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:17 pm

After 2 broken collar bones, knee injury last year, and back issues preseason, I think Rodgers’ “best used by” date is approaching. Arm strength appears to be diminishing - reminding me of Peyton Manning toward the end. Pack will have to build offense to compensate for his diminishing skills to win consistently.

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:21 pm

Go to a game like Brady’s. Can’t argue with success.

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Oppy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:59 pm

Aaron Rodgers certainly seems to want to argue with Tom's success. He seems like he's dead-set against changing his game to extend his career or effectiveness.

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Oppy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:58 pm

I am probably one of Rodger's more vocal critics, and I wouldn't even attempt to say he looks like Peyton Manning at the end of his career with a straight face.

Rodgers has plenty of arm strength left. The consistent, pin point accuracy is starting to dwindle a bit though.

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holmesmd's picture

September 10, 2019 at 09:37 am

Disagree. I can throw a football 50 yds and I’m 51 yrs old. 5 years ago, Rodgers could throw that ball on a line and it would get there in a hurry. This pass almost looked like a Hail Mary and MVS has to slow down and wait for the ball. In the past, Rodgers hits him in stride on that deep cross and that’s a TD. He really needs to correct his footwork this season. His arm is only %90 of what it once was and he needs all the mechanical advantages he can get. Like Brady, he needs to get the damn ball out under 3 seconds. Brady is a statue and he just ripped the Steelers like they were a high school team! Rodgers has the talent to do the same but is he willing?

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Old School's picture

September 10, 2019 at 06:14 pm

I agree. Like you, I'm an old guy who can still throw. A basketball court is 30 yards long and I could throw a hard strike against the backboard at the other end when I was 50.

It's about zip. How long is the ball in the air? And I agree that age and injuries have resulted in less zip in his throws. Compare the velocity on his passes with somebody like Mahomes. Unless you're a blind homer, you'll see for yourself. Don't take my word for it.

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murf7777's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:43 pm

Arm strength diminishing? Maybe you didn’t see the 50 yard throw where his body was facing left and he threw it right without his feet planted. Not many QB’s in the NFL could make that throw. Come on man!

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edp1959's picture

September 10, 2019 at 06:00 am

It doesn't matter what good #12 does for this team there are some here that will continue to hate on him. Even one in particular that thinks he knows more than the coaches. They will take one or two bad throws and focus on that. All QB's make bad throws during a game. I saw Brady make some Sunday night. The difference I see is the protection that other QB's get vs #12. The majority of the time he has very little time before the pocket collapses.

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Kubyskins12's picture

September 10, 2019 at 08:12 am

I want to start off with saying I think that Rogers is still a great quarterback and has all the tools to be the best in the league but he’s not a above criticism and he does have things that he needs to fix like for example: This “everybody gets better protection than Rogers or guys aren’t open” I’m sick of hearing this crap he takes so many sacks that don’t need to be sacks because he holds the ball. This is my number one criticism and thing that I want him to fix. The reason Brady’s offensive line looks better is because he gets the damn ball out on time and if there’s no one open he checks it down to his running back or tight end. Rogers needs to play more on time and get rid of the ball and stop being so scared to throw a pick and trust that he can throw it in to some tighter windows and trust his receivers to make some plays for him. When Rogers is playing at his best is when he trusts what he is seeing and gets the ball out quick. like I said in the past that Bears game last year in the first half before he got injured he didn’t look good he was holding on the ball. Then he comes in after the injury and can’t run around so he’s forced to get the ball out on time and he looked the best he did all year and we scored I think 24 points that half that’s the way he needs to play. That’s the way he used to play every year until 2015 when Jordy got injured and from there on out he just seems to hold the ball more and not trust that his receivers will make plays for him and throw it in there to tight windows. Less running around and less holding the ball, leads to less drive killing sacks and better quarterback play for Rodgers’

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Oppy's picture

September 10, 2019 at 06:26 pm

All of this, 100%.
This is pretty much every criticism I have posted over the last 5 years rolled into one,

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Old School's picture

September 10, 2019 at 06:17 pm

Murf, I could go out right now at age 63 and throw it 40 yards just like that, and I'm no NFL QB.

Joe Namath used to throw it farther than that without even using his legs.

I look at these throws that are bouncing before they reach the receiver and say "His arm isn't as strong as it was.".

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Tundraboy's picture

September 11, 2019 at 08:12 am

I don't think it's strength and I don't think it's he's lost his touch I think he's overthinking. It's like a pitcher trying to force a certain pitch, or trying too hard to hit a spot and ends up short hopping it to the plate.

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Since &#039;61's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:09 pm

Good: The Smiths, Alexander, Amos, Savage, Clark, Bak, T. Davis and JK Scott

Bad: Interior of the Packers OL, especially our guards.

Ugly: Too many penaties, especially on TWill.

Feedback: Posting The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was better posted than as a video.

Also, posting our comments during the game was about 1000% better than watching you and Cory watch the game and tell us what you are seeing. I couldn’t last 3 minutes with that. Yawn/snore festival.

I would recommend trying a pilot program for these features and then ask for feedback from the participants. Thanks, Since ‘61

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Tundraboy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:23 pm

Agree. I'll pass on the Video and podcasts. Doesn't work in this case.

I look forward to the quick down and dirty list so we can comment as soon as game is finished. I do enjoy the live game thread,that's fun, but get distracted and end up missing plays!

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:26 pm

I get all games and listen to Larry McCarren. Providing they’re in sync.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:59 pm

Good

The Defense,Rodgers crazy throw, and beating the Bears in the 100th season opener in Chicago. especially gratifying after hearing how much better trubisky was than Rogers, and watching the Bears defense and Mack, along with the '85 Old-Timers get all hyped up before the game opening. Sweet. Still smiling days later.

Bad

Holding call on Clark to start. Major screw job.

Ugly

The No call on Hicks clobbering Rodger's head and the following atrocious bad OPI call to add insult to injury.And the announcers barely mentioning it. Ugh.

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:25 pm

The good 61-Ty Williams penalties didn’t cost us the game- the-bad,He knows better.

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jannes bjornson's picture

September 09, 2019 at 08:58 pm

How about Tramon Williams? He had a great game, set the tone right off the bat. The PI call was close, riding the guy out of bounds will get you 15, but again he set the tone with a show of force.

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Lphill's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:20 pm

I have the Sunday ticket , can concentrate on the game and not text, I pay about 100.00 a season not the ridiculous price they ask for , I just threaten to cancel my service and they reduce it. One year they even gave it to me for free.

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:27 pm

Nice app

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carlos's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:28 pm

Meant LpHill

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kevingmccarthy's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:49 pm

The Good. Zadarius Smith's arrival as a prime time pass rusher and beating the Bears to ensure we stay ahead in the all-time series.

The Bad. Matt Lafleur's challenge.

The Ugly. The game. More penalties than there were points. Of course, an ugly win is as good as a blowout in the standings. One and oh baby!

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Coldworld's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:53 pm

Defensive game was a thing if beauty from my perspective.

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ottscay's picture

September 09, 2019 at 04:58 pm

I'd also vote for the text - more often than not I just move on to something else when it's a video (often it would be rude to play around others, and frankly I just prefer to read these sorts of things).

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Samson's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:34 pm

I agree... very little time these days to sit through another internet video production.... I'm a speed reader not a speed watcher.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

September 09, 2019 at 09:57 pm

Very true for me too!

Videos and podcasts have more SEO power though and a hell of a lot easier to do than writing.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 10, 2019 at 08:34 am

It wasn't that bad it was short and sweet. I did love the minimalist background NYC hipster vibe that Nagler was giving off. Made me wonder if he was just rushing through after a lost weekend,and picked the first spot he could find.

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Stroh's picture

September 09, 2019 at 05:51 pm

Good: defense in general, pass D and rush in particular.

Bad: Rodgers poor game in general and footwork in particular. Footwork leaads to underthrows. He has to play much better for 33M per.

Ugly: watching Trubiskytry to play QB! 3rd yr and he's still terrible (halelluia!)

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Gort's picture

September 09, 2019 at 07:34 pm

Well, I finally had an opportunity to watch it. It is short and to the point. I guess I can tolerate it. My suggestion is to keep it short.
Good - honorable mention to JK Scott
Bad - hard to argue with the interior O-line
Ugly - failed PI challenge

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ThxJackVainisi's picture

September 09, 2019 at 08:42 pm

Good: There's only one direction for the offense to go. And until the offense gets in rhythm Rodgers' aversion to INTs goes well with a stingy defense.

Better: Preston Smith. I admit of the 4 free agents signed I overlooked him. After reading the practice reports, I expected Za'Darius to be special, but thought Preston would be more "steady" than dynamic. Very happy to be wrong about that.

Best: I've always loved defense. From sandlot to organized ball. My favorite player growing up was Ray Nitschke. I couldn't be more excited about the promise of this D.

Sorry about the format but the bad was obvious and the ugly happened to the bears. And that makes it beautiful.

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Bizarro's picture

September 10, 2019 at 12:02 am

The Good: A Tough Win in Chicago w a top 5 defensive performance

The Bad: A truly poor offensive performance all-around - from Interior OL play to the starting qb

The Ugly: ‘The Good, the Bad, the Ugly’ as a video clip?!?

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Dhpack's picture

September 10, 2019 at 07:31 am

Not a fan of video for this normally quick to read column. Takes too much time to play and I can’t easily play it in certain situations (eg on commuter train). Therefore I skipped the video and went to reading the comments.

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Packdick's picture

September 10, 2019 at 08:13 am

So, I tell my kids that at my funeral I want the Packers to be my Pallbearers, so they can “let me down one more time.” Just saying I am not feeling it yet for this season.

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Tundraboy's picture

September 10, 2019 at 08:41 am

I wonder what Jets fans are thinking then. Have to check on my brother and work associate make sure they're not jumping off a cliff. Wow just enjoy the game, savor the win, it was great. Beat the damn bears in Chicago on and on. Great victory.

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holmesmd's picture

September 10, 2019 at 09:45 am

This is one of the funniest comments I’ve read on here in a long time! Thanks for making me laugh and spray coffee all over my desk;)p

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JohnnyLogan's picture

September 10, 2019 at 09:57 am

Rodgers isn't Rodgers because he has no WR's outside of Adams. Did anyone see the kind of games some of the young newly drafted WR's had Sunday? There were at least 6 or 7 better than Allison, more moves, more speed.... I'd trade Rashan Gary for Marquis Brown right now. Our slot receiver, Allison, couldn't get open enough to have a single pass thrown his way. Rodgers holds the ball because Adams is double and triple-teamed and the others can't get open. Bench Allison and give Davis or Kumerow a shot before we give away too many games.

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Spock's picture

September 10, 2019 at 10:10 am

I'm not a fan of videocasts in general and I NEVER will listen to a podcast as it takes too much time. As someone above said, "I'm a speed reader, not a speed video watcher." a BIG NO to this format. How long does it really take to type this anyway? Don't "fix" what wasn't broken.

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