The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: Lions vs Packers

Aaron gives out the Good, the Bad and the Ugly from the Green Bay Packers Week 18 loss to the Detroit Lions.

 

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barutanseijin's picture

January 09, 2023 at 01:37 am

Good; Christian Watson

Bad: Everyone else

Ugly: Matt Lafleur

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rstain99's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:07 am

I second Watson he will be really good going forward
The Bad, can't get off the field on 3rd down
Ugly its a tie, dumb play by young players, Walker WTF, Douglas brain fart at end of first half WTF
MLF just plain stupid giving the Lions ball early 4th and 1 and that play call

No heart last night, Tonyan plays TE like a skinny WR there is no YAC with him
No pass rush
Joe Barry showed his ugly side, Adjustments? need to look up term.
MLF play calling really sucks in red zone no imagination zero
Niners would have ripped them up next week, Barry no answers for that offense ou there.

Lets see where the money going to take you, AR, Bak, Lizard, Cobb looks to be gone.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:46 am

move on from Tonyan also...slow as molasses

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:07 am

Two maybe three TEs from this very strong draft class. They are critical players in the NEW Offenses. The Big Ten guys are all sound. Move on from the Silage Committee, en force.

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

January 09, 2023 at 01:43 am

What a tumultuous and perplexing end to a very disappointing season. With that being said, let's dive into the good bad and ugly.

Good:
- Christian Watson dude's a baller and he made a ridiculous catch with a defender hanging off of him.
- I'll throw Crosby in this list despite him missing a FG by less than a yard. He was nearly automatic in a game he should've never attempted so many kicks in. He's about the only other bright spot on this team tonight.

Bad:
- Yet another fumble at a critical time for Aaron Jones. I love the dude, but this was DEFINITELY not his year.
- Drops killed GB tonight. Sure there were some tough catches but right off of the bat with Lazard and even Dillon really hurt. Romeo Doubs was a no-show today with a low drop and a dime dropped right into his bread basket that he couldn't corrall. Detroit had some gaffs early with some drops but they really put it together as the game went on.
- Aaron Rodgers was not on tonight. For the 17th consecutive game this season and 21 games in a row, he failed to throw for 300 yards. Just sad, really. He made a few good throws but also made some very errant throws. One can only guess as to what it was this time. At least he has time to heal up if he decides to come back.
- The backs underperformed greatly tonight. 3 catches for 20 yards on a combined 7 targets and a measley 21 carries for 81 yards. Drops and missed blocking assignments haunted Dillon and Aaron Jones... Well I don't need to say much about that.
- 4 end-arounds in the first quarter. We get it, LaFleur. You wanna run the receivers. Sometimes, it's just too much.

Ugly:
- Reverted to form couldn't be understated. Not a single turnover, one sack, offensive dysfunction, communication problems, you name it. Not much went GB's way tonight.
- 4th and 1 on your own 30, really? And you're gonna call an end around? Enough said.
- Offensive line was nowhere to be found for most of the night. Rodgers was running for his life and I thought getting Nijman off of the field would help. Little did I know the tackles weren't the problem, the entire inside of the line collapsed on numerous occasions and they still can't figure out how to pick up stunts. That last one where Runyan let his guy run free and Dillon didn't have a clue where the pressure was coming from, that was simply inexcusable at this point of the year.
- 4th and short, and the corners are playing 5+ yards off. Not once, but twice in the 4th quarter. Joe Barry, did you learn NOTHING from watching your defense dismantle one of the most explosive offenses in the league last year? I can't speak for everyone, but I can confidently say I believe he has coached his last game as GB's DC. Go get Leonard, or someone who is going to let these guys play because playing scared and playing not to lose, is already a losing mentality.
- I still have absolutely no idea what Douglas was doing when he walked up to the ball and flipped it. There was a good chance that kick wasn't going to go the distance. I have never, in my life, seen something so erroneous in such a critical part of the game. Oh, wait, I'd argue Walker getting ejected for the second time this season is right there with it. Did he not learn the first time? Two times in one season he found himself scrapping with a trainer. What the f*** was going through his head? We'll never know either of those.

Overview: Getting beaten by a division rival at home sucks. Losing 3 in a row to a division opponent and getting swept, really sucks. Letting a division rival beat you in every facet of the game in the regular season finale at home on prime time when they had nothing to play for and you were fighting to stay alive in the playoff hunt and quite possibly fighting for the last time in your career (Rodgers, Cobb, Crosby etc).... That's disgraceful. The Packers showed no resilience and once again, when they got punched in the mouth, they showed no real punch back. They had one great drive the whole game. There is so much uncertainty going into next season and we can only hope the front office puts us in a position to keep us competetive or just pulls the trigger and starts the full blown rebuild. All we can do is look to the future and hope for the best.

Once again, and for the last time this season, it's on to the next one.

NFL draft, here we come.

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majik7's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:49 am

Well said, doof. Agree with everything, especially our 4th and short defense! Where was in-your-face Alexander on most short yardage plays? 8 yards off the line!

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Kevin Carpenter's picture

January 09, 2023 at 02:35 pm

Again, I'm not a coach, but I can't imagine what Barry was thinking after the success of last week and reverting to mid season form.

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Tundraboy's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:53 am

Absolutely on point. Thanks for saving me the days of time to get it all out. This did it.

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greengold's picture

January 09, 2023 at 07:43 am

Bravo, Doofs!

I’ll add, Rodgers needs to go. There is always at least one team, one HC who thinks: I could fix him.

Sadly for Packer fans, the last to do so were us, and Matt LaFleur. Aaron Rodgers never - went all in under LaFleur’s guidance, which weakened with every season, just like Rodgers’ physical gifts to be a top QB.

This is a young man’s game. He’s lost his will to run, along with his legs, and both his long ball & accuracy are gone.

It has been time to move along since losing to SF in LaFleur’s first schooling & playoff loss.

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MainePackFan's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:38 am

Doof, you absolutely nailed it!! Well done.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:09 am

You get an A-Grade, for your assessment.

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fastmoving's picture

January 09, 2023 at 01:51 am

That the only thing, besides blaming everyone besides himself, the weak antivaxxing chemtrailer is good at..........loooosing when it counts. Since over 10 years now for 50 Million.
What a srange joke this eyerolling, fingerpointing diva is........

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croatpackfan's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:14 am

But, but, but "we are not idiots" - remember...

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Lphill's picture

January 09, 2023 at 05:14 am

What a surprise you blaming Rodgers for this seasons struggles , if he retires you won’t be able to comment on his hair , girlfriend or family .

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:51 am

oh don't worry, they'll turn on their boy Love in an instant...and then theres Gutes the other whipping boy..

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:11 am

"we could have drafted Hurts"

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SinceLombardi's picture

January 09, 2023 at 05:59 am

Newsflash: Rodgers was right about the vaccine. He’s also the reason MLF has an excellent W-L record.
Now that Rodgers is turning into an old Brett Favre, it’s bright lights on MLF, and I don’t like what I see….. a soft team that simply CANNOT BEAT PHYSICAL TEAMS. A team is a reflection of the head coach. This team is soft, plays tight, mistake prone football in big games.
Why wait three more years? They will never win a damn thing with MLF, pull the trigger from Murphy on down.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:52 am

MLF is soft...look at the difference between Campbell and MLF...both teams reflect their coach..one soft the other flys around and plays hard..

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:13 am

Detroit also has More Talent.

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tricemajor's picture

January 09, 2023 at 02:24 am

Suh was thrown out of the game in the third quarter for stomping on guard Evan Dietrich-arm https://slope-unblocked.co, Smith's so the meeting clearly didn't help. The Lions had the Packers stalled, and now it was third-and-goal.

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ddepula418's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:15 am

The Good: I don't have to spend another minute watching this terribly coached team this season.

The Bad: Aaron Rodgers, dropped passes. two turnovers, the entire team.

The Ugly: MLF, Joe Barry, Quay Walker, Rasul Douglas, play calling, especially on short yardage, playing 5 and 10 yards off receivers in short yardage situations, especially on the last Lions possession. Having your season end at Lambeau field for the third straight season! Thanks MLF and Joe Barry!!

Really ugly: Mike Sherman, yes he was the coach when he let Michael Vick's Falcons come to Lambeau and demolish the Packers in the playoffs. The first playoff loss at Lambeau EVER! Broke the seal. (Yes, I know last night was not a playoff game but no team is intimidated by playing in Lambeau any longer. Especially with MLF's pansy ass players who got punched in the face last night)

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jlc1's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:25 am

New category, No Show. That honor goes to Preston Smith. Lots of guys came up small but he didn't even come.

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majik7's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:41 am

Did not hear his name once!

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cpabandit's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:48 am

I think Preston Smith was playing for a million dollar bonus if he got 1.5 more sacks last night. I suppose not enough incentive.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:30 am

Good - Packers Nation fans at Lambeau Field last night... And Christian Watson... And nobody else...

Bad - MLF, Joe Barry, Packers D, stupid play calls, lack of energy through whole team, Mark Murphy for his idiotism, technical staff for not wetting the center of the field, red zone plays, fumbles, ST at whole (no, I do not think Mason Crosby did enough to rise them to even neutral mark).

Ugly - ACR. What a expected performance from Aaron Choker Rodgers, aka Packers Diva. He had 3 precise passes the whole game, and few more caught, but still unprecise. For giving the ball to AJ Dillon from shotgun, to throw so low passes that nobody could caught it, to be undecisive at the clutch moments. To throwing the erratic hero balls when team needed to be rallied together and to calm his young teammates. All together no show for $50+ mill. But "We are not idiots!"

Hyper ugly - All those fans who are trying to find excuse for overpaid, declining Diva Choker and believe he has anything left in his tank. Well, I have to admit that he has something left in his tank. $150 mill of guaranteed money, given to him from Mark Murphy "We are not idiots!"

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Cubbygold's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:23 am

You mean the packers fans that were chanting 'go pack go' while the packers had the ball so loudly that even the announcers commented on how dumb these people are?

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PackersWinning's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:30 am

MLF can’t win when he needs to
MLF can’t make a decision when he clearly has to
MLF needs to be a leader when one is required not a committee group think chair person

Oh…as the never has so little been done with so much

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:04 am

It doesn’t matter who is QB, this team is not going to win with LaFleur. He may be an OC, though I increasingly question his abilities in game, but he will never lift a team like his counterpart did last night.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:55 am

you speak the truth...he should be in Div I as an o coordinator in the Big Ten or somewhere for a few years...players reflect the demeanor of their coach like the Lions do...

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:17 am

His critical decision making in last evening's game would earn a pink slip @ 7:00 AM, like Ted gave to sherman.

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greengold's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:15 am

Yup. I'm stunned at his ineptitude to lead this team. He should be sent hitting the bricks. Mark Murphy first though. All he does is fuck everything up.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:23 am

They have their little support group from the country club and were all given extensions. Just like the brain trust after the Seattle debacle.

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croatpackfan's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:49 am

I also want to congratulate to Jamaal Williams who run over 1000 yards in the season and scored 17 TDs setting new record for RBs in one season - previous record was Sanders 16 TDs!

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2023 at 05:32 am

Bet the lions wouldn't trade Williams for Dillion.

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Coldworld's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:46 am

The choice in reality was Jones or Williams. Dillon was cheap depth. Which one would you pick in hindsight?

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:20 am

Jonathon Taylor with the one pick.

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4thand10's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:29 am

I took a lot of shit for saying they got rid of the wrong back. Yes, jones is electric, no doubt. But Willams was just as versatile but with a touch more durability and was always productive on stout Defenses…I’m sorry , but I could never say the same about Jones. Jones is a good guy, high character and all that and i’m not saying anything bad about him as a person.But I would have been more happy with Dillon and Williams.

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packerbackerjim's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:54 am

Good: Watson.
Bad: losing the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Starting field position. Lazard on end-around! Twice! 4th and 1 deep in your own territory in the first quarter.

Ugly: Errant passes, dropped passes, fumbles, lack of turnovers, playing far off the receivers after having done a great job on much better receivers the week before. The whole damned playbook on all three phases of the game.

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majik7's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:39 am

Your "ugly": Yes!! It's like they forgot how well the D strategy worked for them last week!

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GBPDAN1's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:58 am

The good: very little

The Bad: a lot

The ugly: scoring only 1 TD , at home, against one of the worst defenses in the league in a big game. And the reasons are many , starting with MLF and AR

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Cubbygold's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:25 am

And its odd... everyone can see how bad these two are together. Yet the team will bring both of them back to run their heads into a wall once again.

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mnbadger's picture

January 09, 2023 at 12:45 pm

god no, say it isn't so!
GPG!

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Philarod's picture

January 09, 2023 at 05:02 am

I'm with Nadler on the Good and the Ugly, but there are a lot of candidates for Bad.

G: Watson is a good choice. Hopefully, he'll be even better, healthier and with more time in camp for the upcoming season.

U: Douglas's penalty was ugly, but Walker's was completely hideous.

B: LaFleur's 4th-down play call to Lazard (let alone even going for it there); getting beat in both trenches, Aaron Jones (though I love the guy)'s key fumble (not Tonyan's fault but I think he mistimed his slide to recover or knock it out of bounds); and three bad dropped passes.

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stockholder's picture

January 09, 2023 at 05:44 am

the Good is Watson. - The Rookie is the Future and he needs a partner.
He's the #1. The Joke was Lazard. Cobb and Watkins.
The bad. -
Every year we see fumbles; changing the game momentum.
And self destruction is the result.
Get some Red Zone threats. It's just not a problem. It's a catastrophe.
The Ugly- Rt.

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EnemyTerritory's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:24 am

Good… not having to get destroyed by the niners. Crosby, Watson.
Bad…the flowers coaching decisions. Being beat in the trenches. QB12 complete lack of fire and leadership.
Ugly…walker and Douglas. Wtf really? A total reflection of a poorly coached team.
Uglier…150m guaranteed to QB12. Not a single meaningful game played by QB10. This offseason is going to be painful.

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NickPerry's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:28 am

Good ...

Watson...I can't WAIT to watch this kid with Jordon Love.

Bad... Having to play a team with a real HC who his players would run through walls for.

Ugly...Play calling. Rodgers. Joe Barry.

The Pathetic... The look on MLF face while he was raising his hand trying to get the crowd loud while KNOWING Joe Barry's defense wasn't stopping shit.

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majik7's picture

January 09, 2023 at 06:36 am

Good: Rodgers once again exposed as a mediocre has-been.
Bad: Losing our mo-jo after a fumble (a la Big Dog last year vs. SF).
Ugly: The inability to block Buggs, the drops by Dillon and Dobbs, the lack of press coverage on Lions' third and fourth downs (why weren't our DBs taking shots at WRs like Jaire was doing against Jefferson quite successfully last week?)

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:06 am

so the drops were AR's fault? would those catches lift him out of mediocre territory? How about "its a big game so I will fumble" Jones?? Or "I'm quadzilla but I can't pick the proper hole to run through"...or slow as molasses Tonyan the #1 TE....and last of all our boy wonder blankly staring at the play sheet looking like he's completely lost...

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Boneman's picture

January 09, 2023 at 07:09 am

The Good: Packers played meaningful games all the way to the end. We are spoiled fans that simply expect play offs every year. Appreciate what we get!

The Bad: Aaron Rogers is clearly at the end of his career. Dude just can't do it anymore. Bad decisions, bad throws and the blindness that comes when once great players decline. We've been lucky to have been able to root this guy on for so many years and as time goes by will revere him on the same level as we did Favre and Starr.

The Ugly: The Organizational disarray that has resulted in the undisciplined, unprepared and dysfunctional team that we witnessed all year. The decision to mortgage the future by awarding Rogers the preposterous contract he has, the refusal to award playing time by merit and sticking with mediocre players too long, the fact that LeFleur instills no accountability to his staff or players. It's all come unraveled fast.

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KnockTheSnotOutOfYou's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:28 am

Boneman,
Amen!

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:41 am

A Tray of Cookies for you.

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cpabandit's picture

January 09, 2023 at 07:13 am

I am not going to rehash how bad AR was this year on the field and in the Packers' wallet. He should have been dealt to Denver two years ago. Egotisitical hair bun boy should be traded to the Jets or some other team that needs a QB. Let him bankrupt them. The eye rolling, the overthrowing, the underthrowing the stupid comments at interviews. In some way, I am glad the Packers lost. Hear me out. We they really going to beat the NIners? They own the Packers, they own AR. Tonight just took them out of their misery (and our's). We watched them lose to teams like the Giants, Jets, Washington, sqeaked by TB and NE. They really had no shot advancing through the playoffs. Not with AR, MLF, Berry, and players like Sit At Home and Eat Bon Bons for a million a week Bakh, washed up Cobb, hands of stone Lazard and Jones, TEs that run like they have a load in their pants, and a few players that were born with no friggin brains at all and displayed that last night resulting in penalties and/or rejection. Did anyone really believe throughout the year that GB was going make and advance through the playoff? With end around calls on 4th down in your own territory in the first quarter? Please, let's not fool ourselves. Now we can enjoy the playoffs without shouting at the tv and throwing things, cursing and standing up and down off the couch. And with the same coaching staff and a lot more player changes, don't fool yourself into thinking there's always next year.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:02 am

hands of stone Lazard?? He aint the fastest guy (so why was MLF obsessed with running him on end arounds) but he caught some tough throws every game...shouldnt be a #1 WR..

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vin0770's picture

January 09, 2023 at 07:30 am

Did they win any game this year because of the QB play? $50 mill per for JAG…?

I know the FO would renegotiate a contract for anyone that under performed in the past, ain’t gonna happen here means the Pack is hamstrung. Nice 😢

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greengold's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:03 am

The good: maybe this farce can finally be put to bed. Get rid of Aaron Rodgers.

The bad: having a MVP QB who refuses to set up off season sessions to bring rookie WRs up to speed, while being the highest paid QB in the NFL.

The ugly: The Packers will never get the stink off this 4 year debacle.

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Since'61's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:14 am

The Good: Crosby, Watson and Bak

The Bad: MLF in both preparation and game decisions. He gave the Lions at least 10 points with poor and unnecessary field position choices. His offensive game plan was atrocious and designed not to lose the game rather than planned to win the game. Jones fumble, dropped passes by Dillon, Doubs and Lazard. Doubs second drop could have been a TD. Inconsistent OL play and DL play. Lost the LOS on both sides of the ball.

The Ugly: Douglas, WTF!!!??? 61 years of watching NFL football and I've never seen a player do that before!!?? Quay Walker completely redefined stupidity in a critical situation. stupid is probably not strong enough of a word.

On the bright side at least we still have, "We're not idiots." That should carry us through the off season. Thanks, Since '61

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Texastoast's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:38 am

I just wanted to weigh in with a couple thoughts. I am going to try to be nice...
A couple of criticisms : I don't feel our OL is physical enough to run between the A-gaps on goalline plays. I feel the OL does a good job being assignment sure, but we just aren't physical enough to move people at will.
Why on earth would you run an end around with Allen Lazard on 4th and almost two? I love Lazard, but that's not his forte.
I think Aaron Jones is truly a special human being, but I'm not sure we don't need a little young blood at running back. I've never been a huge Dillon fan, but he has a role. Put him 7 yards deep and designate a specific hole for him. If he has to read the zone scheme in front of him, he loses some of his momentum.
I'm going to defend Doubs a bit, I think one pass was at his ankles, and the one that hit his hand on the sideline I don't think he saw it around the defender till the last second. Yes, it was a perfect pass, but I'm going to give the defender a gold star on that one.
I really like most of our defensive personel. I thought Campbell looked like he was running in mud a couple times, maybe he had the flu or something?? I don't think we need to make huge changes there, except co-ordinator. Although another STUD pass rusher would be nice- especially if R. Gary can come back in top form.
As to the elephant in the room... I see it a bit differently than some others ( of course with no evidence) I believe that Aaron is running what MLF calls, but he isn't buying into most of the calls. This lack of confidence is passed on to the huddle in voice inflection and body language. As everyone on offense goes to execute their assignments there is a nagging voice way in the back of their mind that slows them just a tick. We were so close on many plays all year that an inch or two here and there may have made a tremendous difference. It is amazing what can be accomplished in sports by just believing in what you're doing.
As far as next year... I wouldn't make a whole lot of changes. Obviously lowering the salary cap and being able to plug a couple holes with experience would be great. I would love to see Aaron come back with a chip on his shoulder, and show all the critics that he's not washed up. Right now I think his mind is seeing what his body can't deliver. Whip that 40 year old body into shape, and
throw some of the dimes we've seen over the last 16 years.
I'd love a beast tight end and running back, another take it to the house WR. Most of all I'd love to see coaches that can bring out the talent these guys all have.
The Pack Will Be Back!

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:02 am

Brady in his 40s had a robust power running game from a former #1 pick in Fournette and #1 picks for O linemen.
He had a top end defense coached by Todd Bowles, a badass who set the tone. He went to a team with Evans, Godwin and brought along Gronk. Quite a few All Pros and former ALL-Pros on that squad.

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frankthefork's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:44 am

Seems like a year since my last comments. Thanks, Ken and Packer Aaron for the truth, it hurts. I can repeat what I said at the beginning of the season: MLF is not a great coach-he's soft and has no halftime adjustments and poor play selections, Aaron A-Rod Mr. MVP is not that top 5 good anymore, and this team would finish under .500. Last time I received plenty of thumbs both up and down so I encourage comments to support your reactions. I know losing sucks, so wing it.

4 times MLF failed to get the team to and through the playoffs, but he still has a pretty good record.
AR 12 tries to play hero ball with the long holds and tosses and fails to drop it off or use slants.
AJ 33 again fumbles when it matters the most and when the Packers are driving to score.
Dropped passes and poor timing or execution w/ the QB and wideouts.
Ineffective blitz schemes are annoying and poorly timed.
And the biggie is players with an attitude and desire to be poor sportsmen.
I could comment on MC's leg strength, but he has been steady and will also retire this year-hopefully.

It has been a strange trip, but overall the draft talent and young dudes prove our older players on the 53 are just that: old, slow, and not that good. Bring in the youth and trade the overpaid pups I say. The Packers have draft capital every year, but again, not the cap coin, and BG has done alright with the last 2 years of obtaining rising talent IMO.

So it's back to the hibernation mode and await for the spring and draft to come...Go Pack Go...no matter how bad, I'm still a fan of the Packers Nation.

6 points
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Booner's picture

January 09, 2023 at 08:58 am

Murphy do your F_____ing job and clean house! This team lacks leadership! The Packers whole organization is soft!

What the Hell is going on out there!!!*&%

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gpt999's picture

January 09, 2023 at 04:03 pm

Booner, Murphy is THE problem! Hoping he will show leadership and clean house / fix key problems is like asking the horse to clean up his own manure in the stall. He is simply incapable of such change.

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mrtundra's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:27 am

Good: Watson is our star, at WR, and he will be for some time.

Bad: This could be the last game played for many Green Bay Packers: Cobb, Jones, Crosby, Lewis, maybe even Tonyan, to name a few, could hang it up or be dealt due to cap issues. Aaron Rodgers, too. Aaron Rodgers play tonight did little to inspire this team. Cold weather at Lambeau used to be a pride filled thing the Packers have lorded over other teams who play indoors, or in warmer climates. Not any more.

Ugly: Rasul Douglas and Quay Walker. Rasul allegedly threw a punch at a Lions' player when he got that 15 yard penalty. Stupid! Quay Walker shoved a trainer! REALLY STUPID! This guy is like a ticking time bomb, waiting for the worst time, to go off. Get him some medical help. This is the 2nd time he has been expelled from a game--THIS SEASON!!! He has so much talent and so little ability to steer clear of situations, that hurt this team. Before the incident, he had played well.

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:10 am

I would trade Walker, now. Douglas can be Replaced by a high pick in the draft. Move on before the rinse and repeat theme destroys another season.

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Fubared's picture

January 09, 2023 at 09:34 am

Good: The brass got to see a real view of the talent that exist on this team present time. No excuses, this team lacks talent. It has 53 players but many are not very good. If the brass see's that then a rebuild should begin, if not, it will get ugly before it gets better.

Bad: Gutt. His number one draft choice played poorly because as we saw last night, he aint too bright. Only player ever in the history of the game to be ejected twice in same season for same reason. His buddy Wyatt isnt much better, too dump to learn the system. Stokes is missing and that was a good thing, another Gutt Gem.

Ugly: The pass defense which is non existant. The only game they looked good was against the Vikes on a wet surface and them having the wrong cleats on and slipping all over the place.
Amos and Savage are way to slow. Douglas is a moron. Alexander is a loud mouth who thinks he is better then he is and Stokes is a dip shit brainless wonder aftaid of contact. He couldn't make the roster or any other team. This is the packers 2023

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4thand10's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:07 am

Ugly… This was a game of poor choices and poor decisions. Mostly on Lafluer and Rodgers. Started with equipment managers. Warm muscles work better than cold muscles…period. It’s a scientific fact. The whole tough guy cold weather thing…it’s not a thing. Lafluer decided to try a 53 field goal instead of pinning detroits offense deep in the 2nd or 3rd quarter was a back breaking decision….why put your defense in that situation at that stage of the game…..you punt the fkng ball and pin em back deep so your defense has a chance to gain momentum.

I have said on here over and over ( and i’m going to take heat for this) that Jones is not a power back. They struggled running against Detroit again. 2 crucial 3rd and short plays and you decide to get creative with Lazard instead of pounding Dillon with authority?? Whomever made that choice…I don’t want em coaching anymore. Those were pivotal momentum changing plays. Waiting almost a half before you put Zack Tom in?? Boneheaded. Head scratching. Mind numbing. And of course ACR underthrown hero ball.

Good…it’s a young team with potential, Watson going to be good, Doubs is going to be good even though he was criminally underutilized because management insisted on playing a slow aging Cobb.

Bad #7 pushing a trainer…especially this week given the events. Barry failing to use pressure and run stopping fronts…I think I counted 2-3 times.Also, having to listen to Collinsworth all fkng night again just made it that much worse.

This will be Mercedes Lewis last year, cobbs last year, possibly crosby and I hope the Diva’s last year. We’ll see what happens in the off season.

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Packerpasty's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:07 am

The coaching staff sets the tone and our staff is soft as hell...clean house, MLF will never lead this team anywhere no matter who the QB is...some very strange play calling last night and all season for that matter..

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JoePack1212's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:46 am

What a bunch of TRASH by this Team. I thought I was watching the 1970s/1980s Packers the way they played last night!!!! First the Coaching was horrendous, Matt LeFluer better figure things out soon or he'll be un-employed by the end of next Season!!!!! This is a very Talented Team that should have blown the Lions away but because of poor Play yet again by Players and Position Coaches NEVER knowing what to do!!!! Rodgers is a has been and can't play like a 4 time MVP anymore. The Defense at first were doing a terrific Job but got exposed more and more when they had to stay on the Field constantly because the Offense once again couldn't pull their Head out. Jenkins just got and paid now is playing terribly along with almost all the Offensive line!!!!! There is NO DISCIPLINE with this Team. Dan Campbell had his Team playing even though they were out of the Playoffs, that's discipline!!!!! Who is the IDIOT who comes up with the STUPID run out of the Shot Gun with Dillion???? He's much more effective when the QB hands him the Ball out of the I.

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BobWellhoefer's picture

January 09, 2023 at 10:52 am

Live by the hero ball, die by the hero ball. Absolutely everyone should have been expecting this outcome. I'll bet Dan Campbell specifically coached this to his team last week. I wasn't surprised at all. I was waiting for it

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jannes bjornson's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:17 am

Joseph played the 3rd down the same as the game in Detroit. Predictably, they sent A.Jones on wheel routes and he was Covered By a CB, Joseph poached how a truly skilled free safety with speed performs.

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JoePack1212's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:04 am

I went through the 70s, 80s and 90s when the Pack were bad. Last night's game reminded me of those times!!!! AR was no better than a washed up John Hadl when he came to Green Bay!!! Why are our Defensive and Offensive Lines so easy to dominate??? Why do we go for it on 4th down in our own Territory??? Where is the discipline and Coordination with this Team???? Obviously, It comes down to LACK OF DISCIPLINE and CREATIVITY!!!! Now we are not going to have Football until August 2023, since the Packers' Season is over, as far as I'm concerned so is the NFL Season!!! Why would I want to watch anybody else??? Lefluer should though, he may actually LEARN HOW to coach a Team. You don't hold your Players accountable Lefluer because you let Rodgers do anything he wants and other Players see that and go why not me. Barry is no better with the Defense!!!!! Bisaccia it the only Coach that actually made improvements in his area, no one else!!!!! Brian better let Lefluer know he's on the HOT SEAT!!!!! AR NEEDS to go whether through Retirement or Trade. The Trade thing I doubt would happen because Everyone sees what Rodgers is now and it has NOTHING to do with WINNING!!!! If Lefluer is too scared to discipline his Players and Coaches, then maybe he should be let go. He could hide how terrible he was before because AR played lights out back then but not anymore!!! All I can hope for is that somehow someone becomes harder on the Players or they'll keep playing the way they want to, not with Discipline. Imagination and Discipline is what Detroit has and Green Bay doesn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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SinceLombardi's picture

January 09, 2023 at 11:47 am

I get you’re good Aaron, but I think Watson is not without a few negatives. He’s no Justin Jefferson.. he’s good questionable hands and he seems injury prone.
My good: it’s over and they will have to move on .
My Bad: unfortunately the same people responsible for this mess will be calling the shots next year too. (Murphy, Gutekunst and MLF)
Is there anymore evidence that MLF runs a romper room than Quay Walker?? Had the league not ejected him, I thin MLF would have let him stay in the game. It is right up there with Charles Martin for team black eyes. And it IS on MLF as much as Walker.
The ugly: the foreseeable future. MLF has done incalculable damage to this team with his four years of losing must win games. Lambeau field is no longer a big advantage.
We have cap hell, a depleated roster, a very weak staff ( exceptBisaccia) a tarnished image and a dissatisfied fan base.

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gpt999's picture

January 09, 2023 at 03:48 pm

Generally, I think many of these good, bad and ugly comments were spot on! But I would like to turn this around and ask (1) what is strategically wrong with GB and (2) what can be tactically changed in the short term to improve this club?

Strategically / long term - This team has an issue right at the top in the front office - Mark Murphy. His lack of confidence in his subordinates to manage is only second to his own poor, egotistical decision making. If he says turn right, turn left. The problem is that GBs ownership structure is so weak that he will likely last until he finally HAS TO RETIRE in July 25. That's 2 more seasons of his incompetence that we, the fans and his organization, have to deal with. This appears to the onerous liability this team will have to tactically work around for another two long seasons. Accordingly, its hard to measure Gutes and MLF too severely with that albatross hanging over their heads.

Tactically - At least we could try to deal with some of the lower level tactical issues outside of this bad senior direction. Certainly firing Barry is a simple and obvious solution to a horrendous hiring. Steno as an OC has been subpar to say the least. He needs to be reassigned to the OL where he was more successful.

And the elephant in the room - AR12 - is a more complex issue. Its obvious that MLF and Murphy love the guy even though he grossly underperformed this year given his ridiculous contract. Thanks again Mr Murphy! But here is a question I have asked myself - if AR12 was on another team, would I like him as a player, as a role model, or as a leader of my team? The answer is NO. I think he has become lazy and sees himself blameless on all issues, certainly not a leader that I would respect, and a pitiful role model. Would I want my son to be Aaron Rodgers? Absolutely not. He has transformed into a selfish diva with a voracious need for attention. I defended him for his toughness throughout this season. But I have finally seen enough of him in GB. Its time to go Aaron. No more drama in the off season. Either request a trade soonest or just retire.

As per MLF, he needs to retool himself from an OC to a solid HC. His teams are undisciplined and soft. His play calling verges on the ridiculous as that 4th and 2 Lazard running play indicates. He seriously needs a rethink of what kind of coach he would like to become and execute those needed changes. And in that evaluation, he shouldn't listen to Mark Murphy whatsoever!

This team does not need a total rebuild. But it MUST make some key changes and additions to get back on a winning track. If the glass is half full, I'd say its certainly possible. But if the glass half empty, Mark Murphy is still here for 2 more seasons. Lets go with half full and hope. Go Pack Go!

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